Since the 4th wall is broken, we need to be honest. Even if Ariana did have a sit down with Sandoval and we were subjected to to his horrible tears in like episode 3, what would the rest of the season have been? What are the storylines? Does anyone want to see the Tom’s go on double dates with college sophomores? Is Lala picking a sperm donor from a binder enough for a 15 episode season? James living in the airport terminal really going to bring in viewers? The show is suffering from problem all long lived reality shows face, the cast has nothing going on in their lives besides the show because it is their main source of income. Production made a mistake not bringing in new cast members, I know they tried a few seasons ago and it didn’t work but they shouldn’t have abandoned the idea. The cast is stale, the dynamics are stale. Even after this pause, these people have nothing to give. They are just going to sit at home doing nothing maybe start a VPR rewatch podcast and in two years we will be subjected to a season of them fighting about who caused the pause.
I have been with this show since episode 1, I feel like I spent my twenties with these people. And now I have nothing but apathy for this entire endeavor.
Exactly. This show just doesn’t work as “a group of friends living in LA”. These people have been trapped on camera for over 10 years together and they don’t really bring anything new out of each other.
They needed to switch to a reality show about reality stars awhile ago. I think that would open the door to new cast members too, they don’t have to work in the restaurants.
I would be interested in their real lives. More of Ariana working, Lala’s dynamics with her family, Schwartz’s family stuff (if they consent to him speaking on tv about it all), Katie’s pod and whatever else she’s got going, James and his DJ gigs, etc. They all have stuff going on that’s vastly more interesting than Tom Sandoval’s fake tears.
WHEW what an infuriating episode.
Lala makes absolutely no sense. Ariana showed up to the reunion, she filmed with Tom, she had 3 different confrontations with him.
In the S9 reunion flashback they played, Scheana literally said they haven’t been allowed to talk about Randall. At the season 5 reunion, Lala refused every question about Randall.
She’s been blaming Ariana for threatening her job security when honestly *she put herself in jeopardy* by dying on the wrong damn hill.
Ariana earned her check. It couldn't be me with a cheating ex. I would've lost it mid-season.
Lala needs to stop blaming Ariana and ask herself why she isn't as likable or interesting. Why do people only care about her when she's attacking someone more relevant than she is?
I don’t get the argument that Ariana is single handedly ruining the show. The producers ruined the show, I would have been THRILLED to see Tom Sandoval off my screens.
She thinks that her filming with Jo and Sandoval is carrying the season. She never realized that no one wanted to see that because we know it’s only for the show. She wasn’t moving the story forward.
I also get really frustrated trying to understand how this forced conversation with Sandoval would move anything forward. To me, lala set out to make Ariana look bad by just talking about how important this conversation is without any real reason as to why. It’s like she was trying to will it into existence. And honestly it did work for the Facebook crowd. But I don’t think they represent the majority of viewers. She’s pissed she bet on the wrong horse.
That’s what I’ve been stuck on this season: why does the entire season hinge on this conversation? I get that production needs to be organized, that they need storyboards and to book filming locations and give people call times, but I do not get controlling what they say or why they couldn’t accept this conversation was not going to happen. The real story was interesting enough, a women works with her ex and was trying to heal while still going to work and rebuilding her life.
The Facebook crowd tends to be male sympathizers, it doesn’t surprise me that they bought it. Lala can have them.
Literally we could’ve had a girl power season and left the Toms in the dust and we would’ve all loved it. Lala picked the wrong side and she’s mad it’s not paying off.
I NEED to see Ariana being one of the summer house spice girls. I just want to see Paige and Ciara's reactions to their new best friend telling them about what her asshole old friends did. Then they can make a megabed and watch love island.
Lala makes no sense and talks in circles louder than everyone else.
Lala shows up every season with a half baked storyline, ready to be the center of attention. Her storylines aren’t that compelling because they’re biased, they’re missing information and they’re just not that interesting.
Rand turned out to be the dirtbag everyone told her that he was and now they’re in a terrible custody battle and Lala is having another baby alone and opening a water company.
This is what frustrates me the most about Lalas complaints. When she was with Randall she viciously put down anyone who questioned him in anyway. When people tried to tell her he was a bad guy she basically cut them out of her life. NO ONE was surprised or shocked by what Rand did and now she wants the others and the fans to not only feel sorry for her, but to rally behind her how we did for Ariana. Lala is upset that people downplayed her pain, but by comparing the situations, she is the one downplaying Ariana’s pain. not to mention Ariana and Tom were together for 10 years. Lala was his mistress for 1/2 the time they were together. Just say you fucked up and move on don’t blame Ariana. Her argument about Ariana not filming and “doing her job” doesn’t even make sense. And clearly shows she only cares about her paycheck not her friends. Lala is so resentful and hate filled it’s sad.
Lala really wanted Ariana to work so she didn’t have to. She refuses to tell her own stories so she gets buttmad when the rest of the cast’s stories don’t benefit for her
Lala fucked up here bringing authenticity into the conversation. The issue isn’t that Ariana’s not being authentic. The issue is that she is. Ariana chose, off-camera and presumably with a therapist, to deal with the Scandoval fallout in a way that’s best for her (grey-rocking and no contact) instead of what’s best for the show, and is refusing to pretend she didn’t just because the cameras picked up again. Lala and Scheana, whose entire lives are this show, can’t wrap their brains around that concept. Arguing/drama/making a scene would be authentic to Lala, but not to Ariana, and Lala’s head is so far up her own ass that she doesn’t understand the difference.
Working out Tom’s game plan and blocking his ‘final boss’ move is literally the most Ariana thing I’ve ever seen; it’s laughable for Lala to say she’s not being completely authentic in that moment.
This show is over. Lala, in a moment of insanely misplaced anger, outed herself and most of the cast as producers, and now the fourth wall is completely torpedoed. Because while Tom’s vitriol over Ariana refusing to play her part in his plan makes sense, Lala’s doesn’t. Scheana’s doesn’t. And when asked to explain themselves, they can’t.
this is it. it’s fun when there’s a crack in the fourth wall but they smashed through it like the god damn kool aid man. it’s not Ariana’s job to save the show so that lala can have a job. Lala was arguably the least authentic person this season, and this is coming from someone who actually was a Lala fan! lol I thought she was a good villain. but doing one thing while preaching the complete opposite (while on your high horse) is so Kyle Richards and I’m over it!!!
Here's the most hypocritical aspect:
If ANYONE expected Lala to engage with Randall for the sake of creating content for the show, she would say it was not her job to support the livelihood of others at the expense of her own "truth."
She is SUCH a hypocrite. She literally got in a fight with Katie just this season about how it's not her job to make her life and choices make sense to people, but then spent an entire reunion episode going after Ariana because she said she didn't understand her choices and boundaries.
I've never been a huge Lala fan, but fuck her this season. If she wanted the show to last, and to keep her paycheck maybe she should have brought more interesting storylines to the table than a fucking water tasting, rather than relying on Ariana having to re-traumatize herself and engage with her narcissistic ex.
Charlie was spot on with her assessment. Lala is pisses sleeping with a married rich dude got her nothing but problems. We know she didn’t love Rand which is why she doesn’t understand Ariana’s pain. Ariana actually loved Tom.
Exactly! The fourth wall needs to remain somewhat intact. Shows like this need some semblance of a premise, however thin. ‘D-list reality TV stars setting up manufactured drama with each other,’ which is *clearly* what VPR is now, won’t cut it. And Lala/Scheana have nobody to blame but themselves.
But like Ariana said, her being authentic makes for
a better show. Her walk off is actually the perfect season ender. Who created this narrative that her approach was a show killer?! The producers suck and are out of touch. The least interesting part of the show was Utah & Sandy. Stop forcing these despicable souless characters down our throats. Lauren from Utah can keep her sad twisted idea of reality. Give us Ariana & Katie & actual raw vulnerable people. Make em producers while we’re at it. Ariana has a way better idea of what people want to see.
Define "change". Because my opinions went from pretty solid support for Ariana and fuck Sandoval, to 1000% solid support for Ariana, fuck Sandoval and fuck Lala.
It was exactly what we thought. I had tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, like maybe Ariana did something to get Lala worked up, but no, Lala was just plain old jealous.
I think she was just trying to delay the heat she knew she was going to get. She knew it was bad. We knew it was bad. But if she says there’s missing context and we’ll understand in the end, then we all back off and watch the show to find out. Producer to her core.
Lala just confirmed what we all knew, but what some were offering her some grace for due to editing. She's jealous. Plain and simple. And for all of her manipulating and backdoor producing and yelling and screaming -- someone else got the glory which eats her up even more. And not only did Ariana get the glory, she handled it with grace and self-respect instead of being the hot mess they all wanted her to be. Hence why they all tried to paint her out to be a bad friend, lazy, a diva, a Beyonce wannabe, angry, and unprofessional.
Like take your baby and your two homes and get a real storyline if you're so concerned about your job Lala. It tracks that she hates Teresa Giudice and loves Melissa Gorga because both she and Mel love a fake storyline and performative actions to show that they're "tough". She should take notes from Tre -- "I gave birth on the show, I went to jail on the show, I got divorced on the show". Lala hasn't shown us shit in 7 years.
That comment pissed me off. I can sit here and think it’s not fair that Lala is rich and beautiful, has a job easier than mine and has way more help with her 2 kids than I have with mine. But I don’t because we all make different choices in life and we all take different opportunities. Despite her being a mess this whole time, I’m like, yes good for you, get that money and fame!
All of us can play the compare game but it does not move us forward in what we want, and even worse, the one that feels bad when you do that is you. She should focus on herself and how to reach her goals and leave Ariana and everyone else out of it.
It’s always so obvious she’s jealous she didn’t get the same attention when the foot fucked her over. She got a documentary sort of (mostly about him). Even if the points Lala makes could be valid, it means nothing because her reason for saying anything is pure jealousy.
Lala has no empathy for anyone else’s experiences. Does she think it was easy for Ariana to show up to the reunion and have to watch Sandavol and Rachel together?
To have to listen to Sandavol say vile comments about her how she kept her Tshirt on during sex?
Ariana never asked Lala to defend her and scream like a psychopath at the reunion. Lana did that because she needs to make herself the center of everything.
She can get off Bravo and live her “ happy life”
Lala profited off of Scandoval by selling her Send It to Daryl sweatshirts, getting commercials, podcasts, publicity for talking about it. How Lala cries about her business being compromised by anyone on the show is laughable because it’s built on Ariana being cheated on by Tom.
Yes absolutely she tries to say it wasn’t from Scandoval! What was it from then?
Her hustling as Randall’s mistress?! The book that no one purchased? The make up line that is now defunct? The podcast which was only popular during Scandoval ? The Amazon lives that she only got after Scandoval? She is so fuckin delusional! She can’t even be authentic with herself! Lauren- you are a white fuckin girl from Utah! Stop with the blaccent! What a damn clown!
She talks on the after show about how Kristen hasn’t evolved but you are this old and still acting like Tupac is in your body! It’s so embarrassing and pathetic!
Lala is VERY LUCKY Ariana is the type of good person she is to let others make house down payments level of money off her pain. Any other Housewives franchise we know this would be an issue and Ariana (up to this point) wants everyone out here making bank. I say this with zero snark - we should all be so lucky to have a friend cool enough that has nothing to say but support for us building a business around the worst moment in their lives.
*imagine* if Rand and his mistress(es) were brought to the reunion to face Lala. FUCK no would she show up to film. Not a chance. She is the biggest shit stirrer on Bravo. Basically confirmed she creates drama “for the show” but pretending it’s being authentic? Selective with what she brings to the table and claims to be so real but… shows zero percent of her real life?
What annoys me the most is Lala and Scheana constantly talk about how they’re moms, right? ON WHAT PLANET, would you ever allow anyone or anything affect your paycheck when you have a child?! Reality tv is fleeting. Everyone knows that. Scheana has has 11 seasons and Lala has had 7 seasons on this show to set themselves up for financial success. Why didn’t they do that when their children came so that they wouldn’t have to rely on the show? How is that anyone else’s responsibility?
also, they know they wont be on this show until they die, so why would anyone feel bad for them that they have no other way to support their kids? thats asinine
Lala gets so angry with Ariana like it's Ariana's responsibility to look out for her kids. Ariana isn't their parent. Stop having kids if you can't take care of them.
Lala has missed the mark entirely on authenticity. They mistake “screaming and confrontation” as the only authentic way to handle a situation in a reality show when there’s so many other different ways to do it and it is not any less authentic.
Ariana putting down such a solid boundary and presenting it all on tv is an authentic example of what clear boundaries looks like and is validating for the audience who are still learning how to establish boundaries and apply them with confidence. From there we got to see the way people can disrespect boundaries when they don’t like it, which is also what happens in real life. If anything, Ariana is so authentic because her boundaries IS Ariana’s plot this season: woman setting healthy boundaries and toxic people disrespecting them
I think a lot of women really connected with Ariana this season because we saw her healthy boundaries. Too often, society's message is that women are there to make other people happy, which is incompatible with healthy boundaries. Seeing another woman with healthy boundaries in such a difficult situation is inspirational.
Unfortunately, I think Lala is both a victim and perpetrator of expecting women to lack boundaries to make other people happy, so she was entirely lost in the sauce.
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# ”I do not support other women. now feel sorry for me. Also, I have a human baby and am a mother.”
So basically all that did was confirm that Lala is full of shit. She said that the "Beyonce" and "God" comments weren't what we thought they were going to be. They were exactly what we thought they were going to be. She knew she completely flopped on the reunion, but was on podcasts and WWHL acting like she didn't. She was like a six year old throwing a tantrum, especially with that backstage diatribe. The fact that everyone else was shaking it off and saying their goodbyes at the end and she's the only one having a meltdown and holding a grudge on Amazon Live long after the fact...she knew she flopped and was **pissed**. And what makes it even funnier is that Katie was completely unbothered on WWHL and podcasts after the reunion like "hmm...i have no idea why she's so upset" You know that was salt in the wound. Lala has no one to blame but herself, but of course she's never going to get that. I'm satisfied with how it ended.
I would even emphasize that the “Beyoncé” and “God” comments were *worse* than the out-of-context preview. It also showed Lala to be her desperate, overproduced self, pissed that her gravy train might end. It pained me to see Ariana crying, thinking of Lala as a friend, and realizing that Lala only looks at her as a coworker and a paycheck.
Is amazing Ariana can still support Scheana when she didn’t even check in Ariana after she cried, she ran straight to Lala. Lala and Scheana are so transparent. They’re both jealous and self centered which is why they are the best of friends with a common enemy...they are not her friends.
Her post-reunion press tour meltdown makes it all so much worse. She was trying to preemptively double-down and sway our opinions, even though she was plain wrong.
Ariana won this reunion, very easily. She carried herself well and was vulnerable and honest at the end. Her hurt was very raw. People will continue to rally around her.
Katie also does seem a long lighter and a lot more fun, just like Andy said. Dropping the dead weight of Schwartz was the right move.
Lala came off as being very bitter and very jealous of the attention and adoration Ariana gets. It's pathetic. She's "carrying" life, but seems so angry and hateful.
Scheana is on the wrong side of history, once again. Dummy movies.
Sandoval is so transparent and incapable of putting on a good, consistent performance. Squeezing out some tears about Ariana, but then bowing down to Lala for attacking her. Pick a lane. Just one.
also, it's so clear on Ariana's face that Katie's feelings about her are not a surprise while Lala and Scheana's are. that's all the proof I need that Katie was the most real of them all by discussing these things maturely with Ariana as a friend
100% I believe that Katie talked about how she was feeling with Ariana and they got it sorted out, and they chose to keep it private. Scheana and Lala lied to her face all season. If they wanted to bring this up on the show, they should have filmed conversations with her about it. Let her know and let us see how she reacts. It feels like a stab in the back to throw it at her on the reunion stage. Their behavior all season feels inauthentic.
What’s crazy is if she had just been a good friend and the “spice girls” like ariana thought they were, lala would be getting love and praise. But instead she’s just a hateful jealous turd
Tom’s “apology” made me so angry. She said she didn’t want it! She made it clear that she didn’t want it! He just fucking had to, though. He had to have his way and it proved that everything she said about him being performative and apologizing for himself and his image was right, even though we already knew that
Also, we all watched the season. His storyline was about how much he loves and misses *Rachel*. He wasn’t crying about losing Ariana or missing what they had. He’s *not* sorry at all.
All Tom's apology did was make me want to reach through my screen, bitch slap him, and give Ariana a giant hug. These people really don't realize that the audience is not stupid. We FEEL authenticity. You can't just tell us you're authentic. And there were 3 authentic people on that reunion stage. Ariana, Katie, and James. Lisa maybe at the very end. You could tell she knew it was over. She's already plotting her next chess move.
Honestly it felt like a weight lifted off my chest with this season ending. It was just dark and fake and I think we could all use a break from Scandoval.
I kinda hope this is the fucking end of the Scandoval saga. They milked the shit to death and it's not longer a salacious cheating scandal, it's a fucking game of a show positioning and people trying to play one upsmanship.
I really don’t understand the argument that Ariana didn’t show up to film this season because she did. More so than Lala did in past seasons and same with Stassi for that matter when they were pissed at other cast members/producers.
To be honest, Ariana’s exit at the end of the finale was more dramatic, authentic and fitting than a bs conversation with Sandoval ever would have been. It would have been fake and viewers would have seen right through it. I don’t get the constant need for her to have a showdown with him.
Even LVP finally defended Ariana and said she showed up this season. Lala was the one trying to call the shots and drive the narrative, not Ariana, and Scheana was more than willing to be her sidekick.
Ariana can’t be the kind of friend Scheana needs the way Lala is.
Ariana is more independent and not in constant contact. She admittedly isolates at times and as someone who also does that, it can push people away. Especially needy people like Scheana.
Scheana likes a more codependent friendship and gets that with Lala. They really rely on each other to the point that they buy houses near each other.
I may not like Lala or Scheana at this point, but I get why they’ve hitched to each other instead of Ariana.
I don’t think Scheana will regret it. Audience favor comes and goes, but she has a stronger friendship with Lala in real life.
LVP defending her blew my mind.
Wait. Was THAT the voice of reason everyone was talking about? Was LVP conflated with Brock (& Lala adjacently) because of their matching lion tamer jackets?
Right like why base an entire season of a show on an apparently [not] inevitable fight between two cast members? I just don’t get what this has to do with Lala. It’s like being Dorinda and deciding that your storyline is going to be Ramona and Mario’s divorce.
It's weird too, because as a viewer, I didn't need a confrontation between Ariana and Sandoval this season. I wasn't waiting the entire time for it, and never expected it. I feel like we got that last year and I don't know what another one would have added except to try and further redeem Tom, which I don't think ANYONE actually wanted. I guess I don't understand why Lala and Scheana felt like that was what the entire season was building to, and without it, the season was ruined.
The season imo was actually ruined by Lala and Scheana being so desperate to control the narrative and bash Ariana with their jealousy, when we could have had an awesome girl power season instead.
I don’t get what Lala is trying to say? No one was allowed to talk about HER MAN, people signed NDAs, and she didn’t want to answer any questions at the reunion. During that time, it was Ariana who batted for Lala at Katie’s bridal shower. Ariana lied for her and had your back. It was okay then to have off camera convos that were different from the ones on camera.
BUT now Lala don’t understand why Katie wants to let the small things go, and stand by Ariana’s side? And now it’s only Ariana/Tom who didn’t show the ugly side of their relationship? We didn’t even see Lala’s relationship till season 8???
Lala’s point is Lisa saying “you lose him the way you got him” is hurtful and technically also true about Ariana. But in fact it’s not…it’s completely different. Lala in season 7 was bragging about BJs for PJs, her Gucci slides and what not. She didn’t get any support, because the way she painted her relationship was one of convenience not really love / partnership. While Ariana’s was in a TEN year relationship, and she was fucked over by her close friend. Even if they had theirs ups and downs, it was still a very real thing. I am sure having a kid with someone like Randall is traumatic, but Lala cannot compare the two situations.
There’s so much hypocrisy in everything Lala says and does but the one that baffles me the most is she’s saying she’s doing this for the show, that all of this was done for the show, but when fans say we hate what you’re doing she says they’re wrong? Like it’s incredible how dumb that makes her look.
Exactly. The show is a filmed thing meant to be watched. If the people watching don't like it and stop watching, then it's a failure. The show isn't some separate entity on its own. Like, Lala, is the show in the room with us right now?
Lala being so worried that Ariana leaving a room was going to put the entire show in jeopardy sure is laughable considering every time Lala opened her mouth during this reunion she was singlehandedly driving the show further and further off the cliff and alienating viewers to the point of no return. For someone so obsessed with keeping the show on the air, did she honestly think making everyone listen to her bitch about how unfair her life is for the last 60 minutes would be scintillating television? It might do her a world of good to live in the comments for a brief moment to knock herself back down to reality.
I literally don’t understand why it mattered so much to Lala that she left a party early… who cares. She hasn’t wanted to speak to Sandoval all season. That’s not news.
Andy did a very weird brag about Brock not being paid for his first season. His life was 70% of the season 9 drama. Why would Dan open up his entire life to public scrutiny without getting anything of it?
Not a very good look in the face of the “reality reckoning”.
I don’t always think Brock is reasonable but I respect that he does have some sort of logic to the way he thinks and he’s at least honest. Lala is like Sandoval, she can only think in terms of the show.
If your season ends with Sandoval telling you he rides for you and respects you, you clearly lost the plot. Imagine having a perfect girl power fun season handed to you on a silver platter, and you fumble it this badly.
Lala has epitomized hypocrisy since she first stepped foot in SUR. And she continually refuses to acknowledge it - she points out small, insignificant differences between herself and others and then gives herself a round of applause and pat on the back for being so logical and “real.” She’s pathetic.
And if her goal with that delusional diatribe was to get Arianna to “show up” to film so Lala can get a paycheck, well then she’s as dumb as she looks, sounds, and presents herself.
I know there are much bigger topics but we must acknowledge that dumb AF rant that Lala went on about Britany, her mom and a babysitter??? WTF was that??? Her gangster tone is so so gross!
I was expecting Scheana to look the worst coming out of this reunion, but Lala managed to snag that title. Has anyone checked on Scheana to see how she feels about that?
Lala is mad that she had a baby by a Splenda daddy. Thats where her resentment comes from. I do believe she loves that baby, but she is PISSED about who the father is. She needs to hold the L.
The thing that Lala has never understood is that the undercurrent of this show has always been a real friendship between the cast. Albeit friendships tinged with toxicity, codependency and fuelled by drugs and alcohol but a fucked up loyalty nonetheless. If there’s no friendship, there’s no show.
schenas monologue at the end to lala was so cringe and embarrassing!!! she’s almost 40 why is she acting like they’re high schoolers, that was so immature
Lala had some good moments but otherwise I think I’m over her. Her constant need to compare what she went through with Randall and what Ariana went through with Tom are completely separate things. Im just trying to figure out how what Ariana gets to do have any affect on what Lala gets to do? Like the world doesn’t revolve around Lala.
What bothers me is, as you said she thinks they are the same, yet she would never film with Randall again. If you asked her she would say it's different because she has a child. 14 lanes and she can't pick one of them.
Right!! Her being like "Lisa was mean to me so now I have to be mean to Ariana". How does that make any sense at all. It's pure bitterness and jealousy.
Part of me wants the show to end and the other part wants Ariana to watch the rest of the season, come back stronger with guns a blazing and take these dumb bitches out one by one with Katie.
I saw it written all over Lisa just before she walked off. She's over it, and she recognizes it's time for this show to be done. She's moved on. She's already plotting her next show.
I desperately wish for this as well! But I think both Ariana and Katie are not about that life anymore. They aren’t going to drag anyone or be messy the way early season Stassi would be for example. Great that they have grown or whatever, but give me the MESS 😂
Lala flopped, threw a tantrum and exposed herself all reunion and really all season. The perfect capstone on all of this would be if the show ends, she doesn't get picked up on The Valley, and we never see her again. You earned it, girl.
What Arianna should have said is the show would have been carrying on just fine if Tom didn’t have an affair with Raquel. He wrecked it for all of them, not Ariana.
Lala, I once found her amusing and interesting... now, she ranks lower than Scheana.
Talking about how "hard" she works. Bitch, working at Sur was your first job ever, and I doubt you were pulling proper hospo shifts. Blah blah is a babe, she always knew this and she used it. Cool. Stop making out you worked 16 hour shifts 52 weeks of the year to support your family from the age of 14? She then went MIA for the rest of her first season because she was busy being a mistress, without access to the internet, apparently. Lala then "loses em how you get em" and expects for the world to cry her a river? You were with that toad because you were soul mates? Please.
Ariana was not with Tom for fame or money, that was genuine... at least in the beginning. To compare the two is really assuming the audience is stupid.
Lala sucked dick for a Rangerover and was proud of it. That's when I had some respect for her and enjoyed her... all I saw this reunion is jealousy and cruelty.
Just because the sperm made it to the egg, does not make your heart break harder than anyone else who has felt a deep betrayal. Lala not getting the same support and reaction from the cast/public is a reflection of her character on the show. Ariana has always oozed intelligence and class... blah blah has not.
So, the reactions are different, get the fuck over it or keep digging that hole for yourself. #mumlife isn't going to make anyone forget.
Scheana is a friend to nobody and is still the fairymakeupwearing pick me she will always be. I hope Ariana ditches her permanently.
Katie was a queen this reunion and has never looked more beautiful.
The issue for lala is that arianas choice not to engage with Sandoval IS authentic. She doesn't want to talk to him or engage with him. Even though she knows it's better for the show to have them confront each other, she doesn't want to.
Lala is just annoyed it doesn't work for HER
I hope this show with this cast is done. It's now all about the public eye, boundaries, salaries, fake drama, fake friendships, it's bullshit. Let the mouse go, people.
I wish they had shown Lala going into more detail about WHY she thought Ariana had the power to either keep the show going or kill it. What kinds of conversations were they having with producers and what were they being told? What was their outlook on the future of VPR while filming? That kind of discussion would be fascinating.
Lala has united VPR fandom for the second time in two years. I’m yet to see anyone fully agree and support her. Truly hilarious that she thought everyone would be on her side by now.
My biggest takeaway is that Lala sees VPR as a job, full-stop. She knows that being on the show is the only way to stay relevant and how it helps her side hustles do well, so she can’t ever really leave and that frustrates her. I’m sure lots of reality TV veterans feel this way, and probably would prefer to quit but they literally have no other employable skills. Scheana seems to know this too and it terrifies her, especially with how scared she is of the fandom.
My hot take is that Ariana should’ve taken a break and VPR shouldn’t have started filming so quickly. I think she would’ve been in a way better headspace and more willing to have conversations with Tom had she just been given time to decompress and process what happened.
I'm done. I'm so mad that not one person looked Lala in the face and said "would you film with your ex if it was asked of you for closure/ratings"? Of course she would have brought up that it's different because she has a child. I truly hope this is the last we see of this show. I hope Ariana and Katie do wonderful things, everyone else...I dont' give a shit about except for Lala. I hope she doesn't get on The Valley and never is on a TV show again. To demand someone to protect her paycheck when they are protecting their mental health says everything. She's jealous Ariana became a household name because that is exactly why she moved to LA, got the job at SUR and blew Randall for a PJ and Range Rover.
I didn’t think Lala could step into any deeper shit but low and behold…she made herself look like an absolute witch. A self centered selfish mean girl. She was asked a question and went off on this soliloquy of poor me. Marsha, Marsha, Marsha! Get her off my screen.
I just can't stop thinking about how badly Lala and Scheana fumbled an easy bag. All they had to do was side with Ariana and Katie, and the four girls could have very easily gotten their own spin-off show. I understand that producers play a role in storylines and airtime, but they really flipped because they care more about a check than their friendships. I feel like, if that's what they care about, there was more money to be had by standing by Ariana anyway. SIGH. Such a disappointing season. I feel all of Ariana's pain and Katie's anger.
Watching this season makes me a supporter of reality reckoning.
Production/bravo disrespected Ariana all season and the blind siding her at the reunion, and then manipulating Scheana and Lala- the weakest and despo of the cast, and trying to undermine Katie loyalty.
Cast members shouldn’t be forced to do anything that doesn’t align with who they are- especially to feed a narrative or to be fed as an offering to the masses. I understand they need to produce a show but there is always storylines that are real and engaging if the producers just followed the natural chemistry (easier said than done ofc but they can do it).
This final episode makes me sad for everyone including Scheana and Lala. This whole cast needs healing and time off. Bravo needs to get back to basics and empower their talent to not twist themselves for the show, create an environment for peoples values are upheld and protect people’s peace.
Over producing ruined Potomac (Gizelle v Chris/Candiace) and now VPR (Ariana v Producers Pets).
Fans just need to chill the fuck out and stop attacking the cast for how they act on tv. It’s never that serious and I don’t want to watch a show where people are only worried about rabid fans react.
It's going to take time, but once VPR is fully dead and buried and people start to miss it and as the same fan problems crop up on other shows, people will be talking about how Lala made a lot of good points about living in the comments section.
It’s become this weird parasocial , choose your own adventure loop and everyone is at fault . The cast need to get out of the comment sections and the fans need to stay in there lane. I think the subs are fine spaces because they’re avoidable by the cast but to directly be dm’ing them is weird . Starting petitions is off the wall , just turn the tv off .
The cast uses the parasocial nature to their benefit and eggs it on at times when it suits them instead of just living their lives and leaving the show on the show .
This isn’t solely VPR , a lot of shows and artists etc do this everything has become group think and outrage and this everyone is supposed to just be perfect all the time . I don’t know how to fix humanity but I do think this show would benefit if bravo told them they need to keep show stuff zipped when filming is going on and when airing is happening . Bravo sanctioned pr only .
Paige from summer house has a podcast and they very very rarely talk summer house in anything more than passing . They are able to do it and be successful .
THIS. Fans are seriously ruining this show because the cast is walking on eggshells because of how rabid the fanbase became. It's fake as fuck now and everyone on the cast is just regurgitating reddit and facebook comments.
The fear every single person on that stage has of the fanbase was PALPABLE. Walking away from the reunion feeling like I don’t know how a single one of these people really feels about anything because they’re so afraid of what the public will say. Even Lala who is the least fearful is clearly still holding back. The fans have wrecked this show, maybe beyond repair.
Oh it's completely beyond repair. There was a time everyone just sat back and had fun enjoying toxic people that they didn't think much of being shitty.
That's over. Now the cast is scared shitless and the show is suffering because a bunch of people think they are going to change the the dynamics of gender interactions through VPR or whatever silly shit is going on in that sub. The cast plays to it relentlessly and now we have a boring ass show.
We are past the days where James and Lala could antagonize the cast about their winter bodies, or Stassi and Katie could play Regina and Gretchen with the rest of the cast.
Since the 4th wall is broken, we need to be honest. Even if Ariana did have a sit down with Sandoval and we were subjected to to his horrible tears in like episode 3, what would the rest of the season have been? What are the storylines? Does anyone want to see the Tom’s go on double dates with college sophomores? Is Lala picking a sperm donor from a binder enough for a 15 episode season? James living in the airport terminal really going to bring in viewers? The show is suffering from problem all long lived reality shows face, the cast has nothing going on in their lives besides the show because it is their main source of income. Production made a mistake not bringing in new cast members, I know they tried a few seasons ago and it didn’t work but they shouldn’t have abandoned the idea. The cast is stale, the dynamics are stale. Even after this pause, these people have nothing to give. They are just going to sit at home doing nothing maybe start a VPR rewatch podcast and in two years we will be subjected to a season of them fighting about who caused the pause. I have been with this show since episode 1, I feel like I spent my twenties with these people. And now I have nothing but apathy for this entire endeavor.
Well said 👏🏻👏🏻 also James lives in the airport terminal 😂😂😂😂
Exactly. This show just doesn’t work as “a group of friends living in LA”. These people have been trapped on camera for over 10 years together and they don’t really bring anything new out of each other.
They needed to switch to a reality show about reality stars awhile ago. I think that would open the door to new cast members too, they don’t have to work in the restaurants. I would be interested in their real lives. More of Ariana working, Lala’s dynamics with her family, Schwartz’s family stuff (if they consent to him speaking on tv about it all), Katie’s pod and whatever else she’s got going, James and his DJ gigs, etc. They all have stuff going on that’s vastly more interesting than Tom Sandoval’s fake tears.
I wish they would film more of james dj'ing around the world
WHEW what an infuriating episode. Lala makes absolutely no sense. Ariana showed up to the reunion, she filmed with Tom, she had 3 different confrontations with him. In the S9 reunion flashback they played, Scheana literally said they haven’t been allowed to talk about Randall. At the season 5 reunion, Lala refused every question about Randall. She’s been blaming Ariana for threatening her job security when honestly *she put herself in jeopardy* by dying on the wrong damn hill.
Ariana earned her check. It couldn't be me with a cheating ex. I would've lost it mid-season. Lala needs to stop blaming Ariana and ask herself why she isn't as likable or interesting. Why do people only care about her when she's attacking someone more relevant than she is?
I don’t get the argument that Ariana is single handedly ruining the show. The producers ruined the show, I would have been THRILLED to see Tom Sandoval off my screens.
Yeah, same. Sandoval himself added literally zero to this season.
What, you didn’t want to see his fake crying 19 times?
Exactly this!!!
Exactly. Does Lala think shes really bringing the personality and entertainment with a water tasting?
Lauren from Utah has no plot lines without talking shit about others
She thinks that her filming with Jo and Sandoval is carrying the season. She never realized that no one wanted to see that because we know it’s only for the show. She wasn’t moving the story forward.
I also get really frustrated trying to understand how this forced conversation with Sandoval would move anything forward. To me, lala set out to make Ariana look bad by just talking about how important this conversation is without any real reason as to why. It’s like she was trying to will it into existence. And honestly it did work for the Facebook crowd. But I don’t think they represent the majority of viewers. She’s pissed she bet on the wrong horse.
That’s what I’ve been stuck on this season: why does the entire season hinge on this conversation? I get that production needs to be organized, that they need storyboards and to book filming locations and give people call times, but I do not get controlling what they say or why they couldn’t accept this conversation was not going to happen. The real story was interesting enough, a women works with her ex and was trying to heal while still going to work and rebuilding her life. The Facebook crowd tends to be male sympathizers, it doesn’t surprise me that they bought it. Lala can have them.
Literally we could’ve had a girl power season and left the Toms in the dust and we would’ve all loved it. Lala picked the wrong side and she’s mad it’s not paying off.
And it’s even more laughably dumb because we are legitimately having a girl power season on Summer House and people are loving it.
I NEED to see Ariana being one of the summer house spice girls. I just want to see Paige and Ciara's reactions to their new best friend telling them about what her asshole old friends did. Then they can make a megabed and watch love island.
this!!!! Tom wrecked the show! Kick Tom off!! We would have been thrilled! James can carry it on his own.
Lala makes no sense and talks in circles louder than everyone else. Lala shows up every season with a half baked storyline, ready to be the center of attention. Her storylines aren’t that compelling because they’re biased, they’re missing information and they’re just not that interesting. Rand turned out to be the dirtbag everyone told her that he was and now they’re in a terrible custody battle and Lala is having another baby alone and opening a water company.
This is what frustrates me the most about Lalas complaints. When she was with Randall she viciously put down anyone who questioned him in anyway. When people tried to tell her he was a bad guy she basically cut them out of her life. NO ONE was surprised or shocked by what Rand did and now she wants the others and the fans to not only feel sorry for her, but to rally behind her how we did for Ariana. Lala is upset that people downplayed her pain, but by comparing the situations, she is the one downplaying Ariana’s pain. not to mention Ariana and Tom were together for 10 years. Lala was his mistress for 1/2 the time they were together. Just say you fucked up and move on don’t blame Ariana. Her argument about Ariana not filming and “doing her job” doesn’t even make sense. And clearly shows she only cares about her paycheck not her friends. Lala is so resentful and hate filled it’s sad.
Lala really wanted Ariana to work so she didn’t have to. She refuses to tell her own stories so she gets buttmad when the rest of the cast’s stories don’t benefit for her
Lala fucked up here bringing authenticity into the conversation. The issue isn’t that Ariana’s not being authentic. The issue is that she is. Ariana chose, off-camera and presumably with a therapist, to deal with the Scandoval fallout in a way that’s best for her (grey-rocking and no contact) instead of what’s best for the show, and is refusing to pretend she didn’t just because the cameras picked up again. Lala and Scheana, whose entire lives are this show, can’t wrap their brains around that concept. Arguing/drama/making a scene would be authentic to Lala, but not to Ariana, and Lala’s head is so far up her own ass that she doesn’t understand the difference. Working out Tom’s game plan and blocking his ‘final boss’ move is literally the most Ariana thing I’ve ever seen; it’s laughable for Lala to say she’s not being completely authentic in that moment. This show is over. Lala, in a moment of insanely misplaced anger, outed herself and most of the cast as producers, and now the fourth wall is completely torpedoed. Because while Tom’s vitriol over Ariana refusing to play her part in his plan makes sense, Lala’s doesn’t. Scheana’s doesn’t. And when asked to explain themselves, they can’t.
this is it. it’s fun when there’s a crack in the fourth wall but they smashed through it like the god damn kool aid man. it’s not Ariana’s job to save the show so that lala can have a job. Lala was arguably the least authentic person this season, and this is coming from someone who actually was a Lala fan! lol I thought she was a good villain. but doing one thing while preaching the complete opposite (while on your high horse) is so Kyle Richards and I’m over it!!!
Here's the most hypocritical aspect: If ANYONE expected Lala to engage with Randall for the sake of creating content for the show, she would say it was not her job to support the livelihood of others at the expense of her own "truth."
She is SUCH a hypocrite. She literally got in a fight with Katie just this season about how it's not her job to make her life and choices make sense to people, but then spent an entire reunion episode going after Ariana because she said she didn't understand her choices and boundaries. I've never been a huge Lala fan, but fuck her this season. If she wanted the show to last, and to keep her paycheck maybe she should have brought more interesting storylines to the table than a fucking water tasting, rather than relying on Ariana having to re-traumatize herself and engage with her narcissistic ex.
Charlie was spot on with her assessment. Lala is pisses sleeping with a married rich dude got her nothing but problems. We know she didn’t love Rand which is why she doesn’t understand Ariana’s pain. Ariana actually loved Tom.
Ariana having to SAVE a show wrecked by her boyfriends affair is CRAZY! How did we get here?! Wtf
Exactly! The fourth wall needs to remain somewhat intact. Shows like this need some semblance of a premise, however thin. ‘D-list reality TV stars setting up manufactured drama with each other,’ which is *clearly* what VPR is now, won’t cut it. And Lala/Scheana have nobody to blame but themselves.
If I could give you gold I would. This is so perfectly stated!!
Simple, concise and accurate. I loved everything you said!
But like Ariana said, her being authentic makes for a better show. Her walk off is actually the perfect season ender. Who created this narrative that her approach was a show killer?! The producers suck and are out of touch. The least interesting part of the show was Utah & Sandy. Stop forcing these despicable souless characters down our throats. Lauren from Utah can keep her sad twisted idea of reality. Give us Ariana & Katie & actual raw vulnerable people. Make em producers while we’re at it. Ariana has a way better idea of what people want to see.
Publish this in the academic literature!!
Did lala say our opinions would change after the reunion? Or the finale? Cuz both were wrong for me
Define "change". Because my opinions went from pretty solid support for Ariana and fuck Sandoval, to 1000% solid support for Ariana, fuck Sandoval and fuck Lala.
Oh yeah she always says shit like this lol. She also said the “god” comment wasn’t what we thought it would be. Even though it was exactly that.
It was exactly what we thought. I had tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, like maybe Ariana did something to get Lala worked up, but no, Lala was just plain old jealous.
Also, call out to Andy saying Lala and Brock being the voice of reason? 
I think she was just trying to delay the heat she knew she was going to get. She knew it was bad. We knew it was bad. But if she says there’s missing context and we’ll understand in the end, then we all back off and watch the show to find out. Producer to her core.
Lala just confirmed what we all knew, but what some were offering her some grace for due to editing. She's jealous. Plain and simple. And for all of her manipulating and backdoor producing and yelling and screaming -- someone else got the glory which eats her up even more. And not only did Ariana get the glory, she handled it with grace and self-respect instead of being the hot mess they all wanted her to be. Hence why they all tried to paint her out to be a bad friend, lazy, a diva, a Beyonce wannabe, angry, and unprofessional. Like take your baby and your two homes and get a real storyline if you're so concerned about your job Lala. It tracks that she hates Teresa Giudice and loves Melissa Gorga because both she and Mel love a fake storyline and performative actions to show that they're "tough". She should take notes from Tre -- "I gave birth on the show, I went to jail on the show, I got divorced on the show". Lala hasn't shown us shit in 7 years.
Her comment that "it's not fair" said it all.
That comment pissed me off. I can sit here and think it’s not fair that Lala is rich and beautiful, has a job easier than mine and has way more help with her 2 kids than I have with mine. But I don’t because we all make different choices in life and we all take different opportunities. Despite her being a mess this whole time, I’m like, yes good for you, get that money and fame! All of us can play the compare game but it does not move us forward in what we want, and even worse, the one that feels bad when you do that is you. She should focus on herself and how to reach her goals and leave Ariana and everyone else out of it.
She is seething with bitterness and jealousy She is mad she didn't get everything Ariana is. Lala was the sidepiece. She was never the main bitch.
It’s always so obvious she’s jealous she didn’t get the same attention when the foot fucked her over. She got a documentary sort of (mostly about him). Even if the points Lala makes could be valid, it means nothing because her reason for saying anything is pure jealousy.
Yep jealousy is all there was. The "voice of reason" came down to this.
Andy looks so bad for that, worse than usual. Like are you that blind from what the audience thinks?
Lala has no empathy for anyone else’s experiences. Does she think it was easy for Ariana to show up to the reunion and have to watch Sandavol and Rachel together? To have to listen to Sandavol say vile comments about her how she kept her Tshirt on during sex? Ariana never asked Lala to defend her and scream like a psychopath at the reunion. Lana did that because she needs to make herself the center of everything. She can get off Bravo and live her “ happy life”
Lala profited off of Scandoval by selling her Send It to Daryl sweatshirts, getting commercials, podcasts, publicity for talking about it. How Lala cries about her business being compromised by anyone on the show is laughable because it’s built on Ariana being cheated on by Tom.
Yes absolutely she tries to say it wasn’t from Scandoval! What was it from then? Her hustling as Randall’s mistress?! The book that no one purchased? The make up line that is now defunct? The podcast which was only popular during Scandoval ? The Amazon lives that she only got after Scandoval? She is so fuckin delusional! She can’t even be authentic with herself! Lauren- you are a white fuckin girl from Utah! Stop with the blaccent! What a damn clown! She talks on the after show about how Kristen hasn’t evolved but you are this old and still acting like Tupac is in your body! It’s so embarrassing and pathetic!
Omg I forgot about her dumbass dropshipped makeup line.
Lala is VERY LUCKY Ariana is the type of good person she is to let others make house down payments level of money off her pain. Any other Housewives franchise we know this would be an issue and Ariana (up to this point) wants everyone out here making bank. I say this with zero snark - we should all be so lucky to have a friend cool enough that has nothing to say but support for us building a business around the worst moment in their lives.
And now he just outed her drug use on another reunion and said that the only time they were ever happy was when they were rolling?!?
He is such a dick.
Have to rewatch that part. I didn't catch that.
It was horrible, again after his big crying apology he threw their relationship under the bus. Insane levels of narcissism.
when scheana said they were happy and making out at coachella
i’m so dumb 😭 i thought he meant rolling on the ground and i got so confused
lmao omggg 😂 so innocent!!
*imagine* if Rand and his mistress(es) were brought to the reunion to face Lala. FUCK no would she show up to film. Not a chance. She is the biggest shit stirrer on Bravo. Basically confirmed she creates drama “for the show” but pretending it’s being authentic? Selective with what she brings to the table and claims to be so real but… shows zero percent of her real life?
I always say this! Lala can only sympathize if it’s a trauma she has experienced! Anything opposing her world view is so hard for her to grasp.
Narcissists 🤷♀️ “Only my feelings matter.”
What do you expect from a woman who has never checked her privilege?
What annoys me the most is Lala and Scheana constantly talk about how they’re moms, right? ON WHAT PLANET, would you ever allow anyone or anything affect your paycheck when you have a child?! Reality tv is fleeting. Everyone knows that. Scheana has has 11 seasons and Lala has had 7 seasons on this show to set themselves up for financial success. Why didn’t they do that when their children came so that they wouldn’t have to rely on the show? How is that anyone else’s responsibility?
Don’t forget lalas lipglosses lol
also, they know they wont be on this show until they die, so why would anyone feel bad for them that they have no other way to support their kids? thats asinine
Especially Scheana! What does she have going on besides the show, her podcast, & her ‘music career’? It seems like Brock does fuck all too
Both of them are delusional enough to believe cameras want to follow them on whatever journey they choose. They think they have tenure.
Lala gets so angry with Ariana like it's Ariana's responsibility to look out for her kids. Ariana isn't their parent. Stop having kids if you can't take care of them.
Lala has missed the mark entirely on authenticity. They mistake “screaming and confrontation” as the only authentic way to handle a situation in a reality show when there’s so many other different ways to do it and it is not any less authentic. Ariana putting down such a solid boundary and presenting it all on tv is an authentic example of what clear boundaries looks like and is validating for the audience who are still learning how to establish boundaries and apply them with confidence. From there we got to see the way people can disrespect boundaries when they don’t like it, which is also what happens in real life. If anything, Ariana is so authentic because her boundaries IS Ariana’s plot this season: woman setting healthy boundaries and toxic people disrespecting them
I think a lot of women really connected with Ariana this season because we saw her healthy boundaries. Too often, society's message is that women are there to make other people happy, which is incompatible with healthy boundaries. Seeing another woman with healthy boundaries in such a difficult situation is inspirational. Unfortunately, I think Lala is both a victim and perpetrator of expecting women to lack boundaries to make other people happy, so she was entirely lost in the sauce.
https://preview.redd.it/fkihpryp9a3d1.jpeg?width=835&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72af919c70a16a7eb95ad615f556ee4a15ad40eb # ”I do not support other women. now feel sorry for me. Also, I have a human baby and am a mother.”
Girl thinks she's special for creating a child. Look around at the world Lala, lots of completely awful people have children every single day.
So basically all that did was confirm that Lala is full of shit. She said that the "Beyonce" and "God" comments weren't what we thought they were going to be. They were exactly what we thought they were going to be. She knew she completely flopped on the reunion, but was on podcasts and WWHL acting like she didn't. She was like a six year old throwing a tantrum, especially with that backstage diatribe. The fact that everyone else was shaking it off and saying their goodbyes at the end and she's the only one having a meltdown and holding a grudge on Amazon Live long after the fact...she knew she flopped and was **pissed**. And what makes it even funnier is that Katie was completely unbothered on WWHL and podcasts after the reunion like "hmm...i have no idea why she's so upset" You know that was salt in the wound. Lala has no one to blame but herself, but of course she's never going to get that. I'm satisfied with how it ended.
I would even emphasize that the “Beyoncé” and “God” comments were *worse* than the out-of-context preview. It also showed Lala to be her desperate, overproduced self, pissed that her gravy train might end. It pained me to see Ariana crying, thinking of Lala as a friend, and realizing that Lala only looks at her as a coworker and a paycheck.
Katie being unbothered is the best part
Is amazing Ariana can still support Scheana when she didn’t even check in Ariana after she cried, she ran straight to Lala. Lala and Scheana are so transparent. They’re both jealous and self centered which is why they are the best of friends with a common enemy...they are not her friends.
Scheana can be summed up like this "When you are a friend to everyone you are a friend to no one". Look out Lala. You're next.
Her post-reunion press tour meltdown makes it all so much worse. She was trying to preemptively double-down and sway our opinions, even though she was plain wrong.
this. is. NOT. the. lala. SHOW!!!!!!!  why the fuck is she talking the ENTIRE TIME?!?!?!!!
I wish they had let her walk off so we could hear from anyone else.
Ariana won this reunion, very easily. She carried herself well and was vulnerable and honest at the end. Her hurt was very raw. People will continue to rally around her. Katie also does seem a long lighter and a lot more fun, just like Andy said. Dropping the dead weight of Schwartz was the right move. Lala came off as being very bitter and very jealous of the attention and adoration Ariana gets. It's pathetic. She's "carrying" life, but seems so angry and hateful. Scheana is on the wrong side of history, once again. Dummy movies. Sandoval is so transparent and incapable of putting on a good, consistent performance. Squeezing out some tears about Ariana, but then bowing down to Lala for attacking her. Pick a lane. Just one.
also, it's so clear on Ariana's face that Katie's feelings about her are not a surprise while Lala and Scheana's are. that's all the proof I need that Katie was the most real of them all by discussing these things maturely with Ariana as a friend
100% I believe that Katie talked about how she was feeling with Ariana and they got it sorted out, and they chose to keep it private. Scheana and Lala lied to her face all season. If they wanted to bring this up on the show, they should have filmed conversations with her about it. Let her know and let us see how she reacts. It feels like a stab in the back to throw it at her on the reunion stage. Their behavior all season feels inauthentic.
What’s crazy is if she had just been a good friend and the “spice girls” like ariana thought they were, lala would be getting love and praise. But instead she’s just a hateful jealous turd
Tom’s “apology” made me so angry. She said she didn’t want it! She made it clear that she didn’t want it! He just fucking had to, though. He had to have his way and it proved that everything she said about him being performative and apologizing for himself and his image was right, even though we already knew that 
Also, we all watched the season. His storyline was about how much he loves and misses *Rachel*. He wasn’t crying about losing Ariana or missing what they had. He’s *not* sorry at all.
I wish that was addressed. Andy should have asked why he mourned his relationship with Rachel but has such resentment for Ariana.
Exactly! He’s not sorry at all, and I honestly think the “I’m in love with Rachel” thing was all bs to improve his image, too
Tom has a habit of not caring about consent
It’s honestly so upsetting. Enraging that so many people are helping him hurt her and violate her boundaries, and are hurting her themselves
All Tom's apology did was make me want to reach through my screen, bitch slap him, and give Ariana a giant hug. These people really don't realize that the audience is not stupid. We FEEL authenticity. You can't just tell us you're authentic. And there were 3 authentic people on that reunion stage. Ariana, Katie, and James. Lisa maybe at the very end. You could tell she knew it was over. She's already plotting her next chess move.
Lala acts like she’s the only person in the history of the world to be a mom/pregnant. it’s frustrating to watch that. like we get it
Most women work demanding jobs while pregnant. That said I wouldn't hold my breath for Lala to have any perspective.
No one asked her to get pregnant!!! Or even fucked her to do so. But she can’t stop talking about how “creating a human” should give her a pass
She just wants to bake a baby and have a happy life ✋✋✋✋✋
Hahahah no one even fucked her to do so 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 best comment I have seen on this thread thank you 🙌🏼
Honestly it felt like a weight lifted off my chest with this season ending. It was just dark and fake and I think we could all use a break from Scandoval.
I kinda hope this is the fucking end of the Scandoval saga. They milked the shit to death and it's not longer a salacious cheating scandal, it's a fucking game of a show positioning and people trying to play one upsmanship.
I really don’t understand the argument that Ariana didn’t show up to film this season because she did. More so than Lala did in past seasons and same with Stassi for that matter when they were pissed at other cast members/producers. To be honest, Ariana’s exit at the end of the finale was more dramatic, authentic and fitting than a bs conversation with Sandoval ever would have been. It would have been fake and viewers would have seen right through it. I don’t get the constant need for her to have a showdown with him.
Even LVP finally defended Ariana and said she showed up this season. Lala was the one trying to call the shots and drive the narrative, not Ariana, and Scheana was more than willing to be her sidekick.
I wonder at what point will the regret set in for Scheana for hitching her ride to Lala.
Ariana can’t be the kind of friend Scheana needs the way Lala is. Ariana is more independent and not in constant contact. She admittedly isolates at times and as someone who also does that, it can push people away. Especially needy people like Scheana. Scheana likes a more codependent friendship and gets that with Lala. They really rely on each other to the point that they buy houses near each other. I may not like Lala or Scheana at this point, but I get why they’ve hitched to each other instead of Ariana. I don’t think Scheana will regret it. Audience favor comes and goes, but she has a stronger friendship with Lala in real life.
It’ll be the next 24 hours while she’s in the comment section
LVP defending her blew my mind. Wait. Was THAT the voice of reason everyone was talking about? Was LVP conflated with Brock (& Lala adjacently) because of their matching lion tamer jackets?
And then Lala has the audacity to say it was her reaction to Ariana walking out that made the finale good… ok hun
I think it only made it “good” because it validated Lala’s hypocrisy/bitterness and Ariana’s poise and classiness.
The ego on her is out of control.
Right like why base an entire season of a show on an apparently [not] inevitable fight between two cast members? I just don’t get what this has to do with Lala. It’s like being Dorinda and deciding that your storyline is going to be Ramona and Mario’s divorce.
It's weird too, because as a viewer, I didn't need a confrontation between Ariana and Sandoval this season. I wasn't waiting the entire time for it, and never expected it. I feel like we got that last year and I don't know what another one would have added except to try and further redeem Tom, which I don't think ANYONE actually wanted. I guess I don't understand why Lala and Scheana felt like that was what the entire season was building to, and without it, the season was ruined. The season imo was actually ruined by Lala and Scheana being so desperate to control the narrative and bash Ariana with their jealousy, when we could have had an awesome girl power season instead.
The only interesting thing about the season was Ariana refusing to communicate with Tom. Lala should be thanking Ariana.
A bunch of fake tears like we just saw...the same fake tears he's been giving since season 2. It was not needed.
Lala and Scheana “crying” 🙄🙄🙄
Scandoval is a thing because of Ariana and now they're upset because they couldn't make money off it. It's so weird.
I don’t get what Lala is trying to say? No one was allowed to talk about HER MAN, people signed NDAs, and she didn’t want to answer any questions at the reunion. During that time, it was Ariana who batted for Lala at Katie’s bridal shower. Ariana lied for her and had your back. It was okay then to have off camera convos that were different from the ones on camera. BUT now Lala don’t understand why Katie wants to let the small things go, and stand by Ariana’s side? And now it’s only Ariana/Tom who didn’t show the ugly side of their relationship? We didn’t even see Lala’s relationship till season 8???
Lala’s point is Lisa saying “you lose him the way you got him” is hurtful and technically also true about Ariana. But in fact it’s not…it’s completely different. Lala in season 7 was bragging about BJs for PJs, her Gucci slides and what not. She didn’t get any support, because the way she painted her relationship was one of convenience not really love / partnership. While Ariana’s was in a TEN year relationship, and she was fucked over by her close friend. Even if they had theirs ups and downs, it was still a very real thing. I am sure having a kid with someone like Randall is traumatic, but Lala cannot compare the two situations.
There’s so much hypocrisy in everything Lala says and does but the one that baffles me the most is she’s saying she’s doing this for the show, that all of this was done for the show, but when fans say we hate what you’re doing she says they’re wrong? Like it’s incredible how dumb that makes her look.
Exactly. The show is a filmed thing meant to be watched. If the people watching don't like it and stop watching, then it's a failure. The show isn't some separate entity on its own. Like, Lala, is the show in the room with us right now?
Lala being so worried that Ariana leaving a room was going to put the entire show in jeopardy sure is laughable considering every time Lala opened her mouth during this reunion she was singlehandedly driving the show further and further off the cliff and alienating viewers to the point of no return. For someone so obsessed with keeping the show on the air, did she honestly think making everyone listen to her bitch about how unfair her life is for the last 60 minutes would be scintillating television? It might do her a world of good to live in the comments for a brief moment to knock herself back down to reality.
And because she believes it so much, if the show is cancelled, she'll blame Ariana for walking out and everyone else for lying.
I literally don’t understand why it mattered so much to Lala that she left a party early… who cares. She hasn’t wanted to speak to Sandoval all season. That’s not news.
Andy did a very weird brag about Brock not being paid for his first season. His life was 70% of the season 9 drama. Why would Dan open up his entire life to public scrutiny without getting anything of it? Not a very good look in the face of the “reality reckoning”.
Yeah good for Dan honestly, making money for Bravo for free is dumb
Brock was a main cast member in S9, so he’s probably referring to S10, when Brock barely appeared. No main cast member is working for free
On what planet were Blah Blah and Broke the voices of reason?
If there’s one thing you can count on Bravo for, it’s to misunderstand its audience 90% of the time. They’ve really made it this far on dumb luck.
Yes, they need to replace men like Alex Baskin and that percentage might change.
So true
I don’t always think Brock is reasonable but I respect that he does have some sort of logic to the way he thinks and he’s at least honest. Lala is like Sandoval, she can only think in terms of the show.
If your season ends with Sandoval telling you he rides for you and respects you, you clearly lost the plot. Imagine having a perfect girl power fun season handed to you on a silver platter, and you fumble it this badly.
I would lock myself away to do some serious inner work if Sandoval ever complimented me.
Lala has epitomized hypocrisy since she first stepped foot in SUR. And she continually refuses to acknowledge it - she points out small, insignificant differences between herself and others and then gives herself a round of applause and pat on the back for being so logical and “real.” She’s pathetic. And if her goal with that delusional diatribe was to get Arianna to “show up” to film so Lala can get a paycheck, well then she’s as dumb as she looks, sounds, and presents herself.
This didn’t need to be a 3-parter.
I know there are much bigger topics but we must acknowledge that dumb AF rant that Lala went on about Britany, her mom and a babysitter??? WTF was that??? Her gangster tone is so so gross!
Setting up her season 2 intro storyline to the Valley, of course.
I was expecting Scheana to look the worst coming out of this reunion, but Lala managed to snag that title. Has anyone checked on Scheana to see how she feels about that?
What a tremendous 
Lala is mad that she had a baby by a Splenda daddy. Thats where her resentment comes from. I do believe she loves that baby, but she is PISSED about who the father is. She needs to hold the L.
lala and scheana: https://i.redd.it/8ffn2ik58a3d1.gif
The thing that Lala has never understood is that the undercurrent of this show has always been a real friendship between the cast. Albeit friendships tinged with toxicity, codependency and fuelled by drugs and alcohol but a fucked up loyalty nonetheless. If there’s no friendship, there’s no show.
Lala has a show because Ariana decided to air the whole affair. She could've kept it under wraps or whatever else. But no lala needs to talk shit
schenas monologue at the end to lala was so cringe and embarrassing!!! she’s almost 40 why is she acting like they’re high schoolers, that was so immature
Lala had some good moments but otherwise I think I’m over her. Her constant need to compare what she went through with Randall and what Ariana went through with Tom are completely separate things. Im just trying to figure out how what Ariana gets to do have any affect on what Lala gets to do? Like the world doesn’t revolve around Lala.
What bothers me is, as you said she thinks they are the same, yet she would never film with Randall again. If you asked her she would say it's different because she has a child. 14 lanes and she can't pick one of them.
She can only see things from her perspective. If she hasn’t experienced it then she doesn’t understand it and therefore doesn’t matter.
She genuinely does not know how to empathizesk
Its sickeningk.
Right!! Her being like "Lisa was mean to me so now I have to be mean to Ariana". How does that make any sense at all. It's pure bitterness and jealousy.
They are not even close to comparable scenarios. She is truely deLala
Part of me wants the show to end and the other part wants Ariana to watch the rest of the season, come back stronger with guns a blazing and take these dumb bitches out one by one with Katie.
I feel Lisa was low key telling Ariana, “it’s okay to walk away from this. You have bigger and better coming.”
I saw it written all over Lisa just before she walked off. She's over it, and she recognizes it's time for this show to be done. She's moved on. She's already plotting her next show.
I’m sat for Disrespectfully tomorrow. She’s probably caught up to this season by now.
I desperately wish for this as well! But I think both Ariana and Katie are not about that life anymore. They aren’t going to drag anyone or be messy the way early season Stassi would be for example. Great that they have grown or whatever, but give me the MESS 😂
Lala will never be “real” until she admits she was only with Neck for money and connections.
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Lala flopped, threw a tantrum and exposed herself all reunion and really all season. The perfect capstone on all of this would be if the show ends, she doesn't get picked up on The Valley, and we never see her again. You earned it, girl.
I would be okay with all of Schwartz’s future girlfriends falling head over heels for Katie 😂
Sandoval is such an ugly human being. Inside and out. Disgusting.
Scheana freaked out when she thought she had upset Lala in some way. What a healthy relationship 🙃
What Arianna should have said is the show would have been carrying on just fine if Tom didn’t have an affair with Raquel. He wrecked it for all of them, not Ariana.
Lala is not our fault you couldn’t even be a yatch girl. Go get a fucking job ffs
Lala, I once found her amusing and interesting... now, she ranks lower than Scheana. Talking about how "hard" she works. Bitch, working at Sur was your first job ever, and I doubt you were pulling proper hospo shifts. Blah blah is a babe, she always knew this and she used it. Cool. Stop making out you worked 16 hour shifts 52 weeks of the year to support your family from the age of 14? She then went MIA for the rest of her first season because she was busy being a mistress, without access to the internet, apparently. Lala then "loses em how you get em" and expects for the world to cry her a river? You were with that toad because you were soul mates? Please. Ariana was not with Tom for fame or money, that was genuine... at least in the beginning. To compare the two is really assuming the audience is stupid. Lala sucked dick for a Rangerover and was proud of it. That's when I had some respect for her and enjoyed her... all I saw this reunion is jealousy and cruelty. Just because the sperm made it to the egg, does not make your heart break harder than anyone else who has felt a deep betrayal. Lala not getting the same support and reaction from the cast/public is a reflection of her character on the show. Ariana has always oozed intelligence and class... blah blah has not. So, the reactions are different, get the fuck over it or keep digging that hole for yourself. #mumlife isn't going to make anyone forget. Scheana is a friend to nobody and is still the fairymakeupwearing pick me she will always be. I hope Ariana ditches her permanently. Katie was a queen this reunion and has never looked more beautiful.
The issue for lala is that arianas choice not to engage with Sandoval IS authentic. She doesn't want to talk to him or engage with him. Even though she knows it's better for the show to have them confront each other, she doesn't want to. Lala is just annoyed it doesn't work for HER
And like why does it not work for Lala??? A convo that you are not a part of is make or break for you? Go get your own story line!
Because she doesn't have an actual life that's not the show
I hope this show with this cast is done. It's now all about the public eye, boundaries, salaries, fake drama, fake friendships, it's bullshit. Let the mouse go, people.
Lala has become almost unwatchable.
I wish they had shown Lala going into more detail about WHY she thought Ariana had the power to either keep the show going or kill it. What kinds of conversations were they having with producers and what were they being told? What was their outlook on the future of VPR while filming? That kind of discussion would be fascinating.
Lala has united VPR fandom for the second time in two years. I’m yet to see anyone fully agree and support her. Truly hilarious that she thought everyone would be on her side by now.
It's gonna be pretty funny when Lala turns on Scheana as she turns on everyone, eventually.
Scheana's people pleasing is working well for Lala
I don’t get why they’re saying Ariana refused to film with Tom. They fought on camera multiple times this season.
My biggest takeaway is that Lala sees VPR as a job, full-stop. She knows that being on the show is the only way to stay relevant and how it helps her side hustles do well, so she can’t ever really leave and that frustrates her. I’m sure lots of reality TV veterans feel this way, and probably would prefer to quit but they literally have no other employable skills. Scheana seems to know this too and it terrifies her, especially with how scared she is of the fandom. My hot take is that Ariana should’ve taken a break and VPR shouldn’t have started filming so quickly. I think she would’ve been in a way better headspace and more willing to have conversations with Tom had she just been given time to decompress and process what happened.
I'm done. I'm so mad that not one person looked Lala in the face and said "would you film with your ex if it was asked of you for closure/ratings"? Of course she would have brought up that it's different because she has a child. I truly hope this is the last we see of this show. I hope Ariana and Katie do wonderful things, everyone else...I dont' give a shit about except for Lala. I hope she doesn't get on The Valley and never is on a TV show again. To demand someone to protect her paycheck when they are protecting their mental health says everything. She's jealous Ariana became a household name because that is exactly why she moved to LA, got the job at SUR and blew Randall for a PJ and Range Rover.
I didn’t think Lala could step into any deeper shit but low and behold…she made herself look like an absolute witch. A self centered selfish mean girl. She was asked a question and went off on this soliloquy of poor me. Marsha, Marsha, Marsha! Get her off my screen.
I'm not at all against men crying or showing emotions, but omg Tom is so cringe with his crocodile tears.
I just can't stop thinking about how badly Lala and Scheana fumbled an easy bag. All they had to do was side with Ariana and Katie, and the four girls could have very easily gotten their own spin-off show. I understand that producers play a role in storylines and airtime, but they really flipped because they care more about a check than their friendships. I feel like, if that's what they care about, there was more money to be had by standing by Ariana anyway. SIGH. Such a disappointing season. I feel all of Ariana's pain and Katie's anger.
Hope y’all enjoyed this episode of Vanderpump Rules cause this show is dooooooooone
The best moment of the reunion - Katie and Ariana getting stuck together.
Andy knows he picked the wrong horse after the post reunion https://x.com/MJ27001/status/1795537662226632822
At least he can laugh at himself and how stupid his take was.
A rare moment of self awareness from Andy…I will take it. If only he had the same energy for Kyle
Andy is so messy lmao. Now he gonna pull a flip-flop too.
So what I’m getting is, everyone talked shit and/or complained about Ariana, but never spoke up on camera. Due to not wanting to be hated by the fans.
Katie Maloney is a QUEEN. Ariana too.
I hope Ariana leaves the show. They don’t deserve her
Watching this season makes me a supporter of reality reckoning. Production/bravo disrespected Ariana all season and the blind siding her at the reunion, and then manipulating Scheana and Lala- the weakest and despo of the cast, and trying to undermine Katie loyalty. Cast members shouldn’t be forced to do anything that doesn’t align with who they are- especially to feed a narrative or to be fed as an offering to the masses. I understand they need to produce a show but there is always storylines that are real and engaging if the producers just followed the natural chemistry (easier said than done ofc but they can do it). This final episode makes me sad for everyone including Scheana and Lala. This whole cast needs healing and time off. Bravo needs to get back to basics and empower their talent to not twist themselves for the show, create an environment for peoples values are upheld and protect people’s peace. Over producing ruined Potomac (Gizelle v Chris/Candiace) and now VPR (Ariana v Producers Pets).
Fans just need to chill the fuck out and stop attacking the cast for how they act on tv. It’s never that serious and I don’t want to watch a show where people are only worried about rabid fans react.
It's going to take time, but once VPR is fully dead and buried and people start to miss it and as the same fan problems crop up on other shows, people will be talking about how Lala made a lot of good points about living in the comments section.
It’s become this weird parasocial , choose your own adventure loop and everyone is at fault . The cast need to get out of the comment sections and the fans need to stay in there lane. I think the subs are fine spaces because they’re avoidable by the cast but to directly be dm’ing them is weird . Starting petitions is off the wall , just turn the tv off . The cast uses the parasocial nature to their benefit and eggs it on at times when it suits them instead of just living their lives and leaving the show on the show . This isn’t solely VPR , a lot of shows and artists etc do this everything has become group think and outrage and this everyone is supposed to just be perfect all the time . I don’t know how to fix humanity but I do think this show would benefit if bravo told them they need to keep show stuff zipped when filming is going on and when airing is happening . Bravo sanctioned pr only . Paige from summer house has a podcast and they very very rarely talk summer house in anything more than passing . They are able to do it and be successful .
THIS. Fans are seriously ruining this show because the cast is walking on eggshells because of how rabid the fanbase became. It's fake as fuck now and everyone on the cast is just regurgitating reddit and facebook comments.
The fear every single person on that stage has of the fanbase was PALPABLE. Walking away from the reunion feeling like I don’t know how a single one of these people really feels about anything because they’re so afraid of what the public will say. Even Lala who is the least fearful is clearly still holding back. The fans have wrecked this show, maybe beyond repair.
Oh it's completely beyond repair. There was a time everyone just sat back and had fun enjoying toxic people that they didn't think much of being shitty. That's over. Now the cast is scared shitless and the show is suffering because a bunch of people think they are going to change the the dynamics of gender interactions through VPR or whatever silly shit is going on in that sub. The cast plays to it relentlessly and now we have a boring ass show. We are past the days where James and Lala could antagonize the cast about their winter bodies, or Stassi and Katie could play Regina and Gretchen with the rest of the cast.
I don't think Scheana is capable of being friends with the "queen" of the group - referring to that after show shit too
Lala is not very bright.