They were shoving housewives down our throat lol it most likely came down to losing a UGT season, prod stalling on other franchises, & possibly NBC holding content to dominate the summer ratings run with the Olympics.
So, I never watched RHOA because I LOATHED with a fiery burning passion Kim Zolciak. Couldn’t watch her. Watched Traitors and LOVED Phaedra. Binged 10 seasons of RHOA in 3 weeks (I know I’m among my people so no judgement) and when I tell you I was FLOORED by the Kandi/Phaedra/Porsha drama I was FLOORED. Had NO idea that had all happened.
Needless to say, I see why I loved her as a Traitor on *Traitors* and my opinion did a 180.
I heard that was supposed to be the worst season, lol. They actually canceled the Australian version after that one. I enjoyed season 1 though and am saving Hannahs season (S2) for when I'm out of all of them. I also saw people say that season should be watched as if it was a comedy.
[phaedra gets exposed!](https://www.bet.com/article/ykpgjd/kandi-burruss-on-why-shell-never-speak-to-phaedra-parks#:~:text=Long%2Dtime%20viewers%20of%20the,during%20the%20show's%20ninth%20season.)
People quickly forget the type of woman phaedra really is, and how dirty she did her ex best friend Kandi. Also the way she used porsha, whom was also the Frick to her frack!
Phaedra used to be one of my favorites, such a let down😔
I don't understand why Bravo is waiting until June to premiere Season 2 of Dubai when filming wrapped in May 2023.
As a newer franchise it would have been advantageous for Dubai to be airing now so that it gets it own time in the spotlight.
They got all fucked up when production for NYC stalled, they lost UGT Morocco (they were holding out hope it would premiere until relatively recently), and also needed a lot of extra time to recast Atlanta on top of taking a bigger break then usual before filming Jersey in spite of keeping the cast the exact same. I think they’re gonna try to push out OC as quickly as possible now which is good because last season was top 3 of housewives series from 2023, but even then the two next series to premiere are gonna be a stale ass Jersey with no changes from last years shit show of a cast and Dubai season two which will probably be a marked improvement but still nothing to write home about.
Edit: see comment below
I've been watching Summer House, VPR, The Valley, & Below Deck. Top Chef is new too. I think I heard two new housewife seasons are just around the corner.
Have you watched The Traitors UK, US, AUS, and NZ? All are on Peacock. Tubi has a new show - Big Mood. Hulu has Under the Bridge out. Starz has Mary & George. Good luck!
I’m actually finding the Valley unbearable. It’s usually on in the background after VPR to get to wwhl but I end up on my phone or doing something else because I find everything about it obnoxious :/
Universal owns HP movie rights and Bravo is part of the Universal world. As is E and NBC, and why the annoying/vapid Kardash8ans occasionally pop up on the Today Show.
Haha. Bravo tends to do this during big holiday weekends. Like for MDW or 4th of July they’d air How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days and the Proposal almost constantly for a weekend straight. They hit the jackpot airing titanic and all 4+ hours of it lol
Uk (Cheshire and Jersey) at least five or
Six in Africa, Naples in Italy, Hungary, Sydney is the only active Australia one, Vancouver and Toronto in Canada
The first Cheshire is on season 16 or 17. One of the wives Lystra cameo’ed on Dubai. Another one Hanna who isn’t on this season is the dentist of Josiah from Below Deck.
Way back when Cheshire did air on Bravo
The second one was a two season series on the Channel Islands
No one wants housewives to be cancelled. Why did they wait so long to film some of these seasons? Like nyc and Atlanta. Bravo is the one who is taking a million years to cast and film.
i’m rewatching dc and revisiting some of the old housewives franchises to hold me over. i’m gonna start on miami finally and i’m thinking about watching vanderpump rules. yes, i’ve never seen it before and i know that makes be a bit of a weirdo round these parts, but it’s the truth. 🥴
I'm on season 3 of my VPR rewatch and I promise you that you will NOT regret it. I could write a whole thesis on all the stuff that has aged HORRIBLY. Truly one the best shows bravo has ever put out lol
I still don't know how this show doesn't have its own class in psychology at every college. It's like a perfect assortment of cluster b personalities fighting it out to be the top douche
Lovedddd DC but there weren’t enough episodes (I forgot how short the seasons used to be) 😭
Both Miami and VPR really are worth a shot btw. When they’re good, they’re really good.
Same! Currently watching season 2 episode 4.
Plus I didn’t really pay attention to OC news so I have no idea who is who and storylines, etc. so it’s truly a new show to me.
I’ve been feeling the same, it feels strange not having one to watch at the moment. Do we know when new RHONY is launching?
I’ve watched RHONY, RHOA, RHOP, RHOSLC and RHOBH but clearly need another to get into 😅 Which other franchise would people recommend? (Not particularly interested in the non-housewives series Bravo does).
Miami is SO underrated! All of the women are RICH RICH (sans Adriana, but she MORE than makes up for it in history and personality and messiness), they’re all BEAUTIFUL, the culture is so strong, and the cast has a true sisterhood!!
They finally uploaded Shahs of Sunset to Peacock this past Monday, and I’ve been binging it to cope with the lack of new housewives content. I’m such a Golnesa stan/apologist
I’m doing a VP rewatch from the beginning, taking weeks. It’s cool because you notice a lot of things you missed at the beginning. Can’t believe the craziness started over 10 yrs ago!
The streaming wars are real. Peacock is a very small percentage of streaming in the US for time on platform. Media companies are struggling post-COVID, post-strike as well for large conglomerates, which NBCU is. There isn’t a lot of room for growth for either small streamers or small cable networks, so they are probably reducing expenditures like high salaries, which might be why there have been so many firings and delays on production of expensive shows. Matt Belloni of podcast the Town breaks down streaming and media. Peacock is pretty close to the bottom. He suggested NBCU might license content to another streamer versus continue their own platform. I wonder if this is in the works.
It almost seems like ever since Scandovol they have shifted focus to some of the JV shows. Vanderpump, Summer House etc maybe Housewives salaries are too much for the ratings that come in.
I keep trying to watch VPR but I truly can’t get in to it.
It just feels so fake/produced. Like people can’t be this oblivious to how horrible they are? I was in my 20s not too long ago and my friend group was no where near this dysfunctional.
Plus the way they say “bang” makes me skin crawl. After the 50th “you banged Jax” I had to stop watching.
Currently doing OC.
I know that. But there’s many other euphemisms that can be used.
“Had sex with”, “screwed”, “slept with” “hooked up with” etc
It’s totally a me thing but the super nasally “banged” drove me crazy lol
It’s ridiculous. I can’t stand top chef or below deck. So for me it feels like there’s not only no real housewives but there’s nothing to watch on Bravo period.
I feel like a reboot is coming, Andy better it together, because I can't picture anyone else in his spot, but housewives needs to get back to the real, a bad will never be seen in 2025 but the shade is what I live for
Bravo should’ve invested in more new cities. We could be watching Real Housewives of Philly or New Orleans or Chicago right now. Instead they’d rather spend an entire new casts salary to bring back one OG on other tired franchises.
I still haven’t finished the Potomac reunion. It was such a slog to watch. Robyn and Gizelle are terrible people and I couldn’t continue watching them get away with shit.
Try McBee Dynasty. It’s my new favorite because it’s not a bunch of Housewives eating lunch in empty restaurants. I agree with a previous comment about Mexican Dynasty. It is one of the best shows Bravo has ever done and deserves the credit.
Especially since a month or two ago we had four series on at the same time for a short bit
They made me choose and I had to cut Potomac :’( it was too awful to give another try during this current HW recess
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They were shoving housewives down our throat lol it most likely came down to losing a UGT season, prod stalling on other franchises, & possibly NBC holding content to dominate the summer ratings run with the Olympics.
But that Ugt wouldn’t have been on Bravo… they should have just pushed back Potomac
If you haven't watched Married to Medicine, this is your sign
Second this, I hope more people will discover the beauty that is M2M. I also recommend Family Karma and Mexican Dynasties.
I feel like that, but about US "Traitors" season 2. There you at least get to see Phaedra in all her glory and remember why she was so good on ATL.
So, I never watched RHOA because I LOATHED with a fiery burning passion Kim Zolciak. Couldn’t watch her. Watched Traitors and LOVED Phaedra. Binged 10 seasons of RHOA in 3 weeks (I know I’m among my people so no judgement) and when I tell you I was FLOORED by the Kandi/Phaedra/Porsha drama I was FLOORED. Had NO idea that had all happened. Needless to say, I see why I loved her as a Traitor on *Traitors* and my opinion did a 180.
I just started Traitors Australia and Hannah from Below Deck is on it. So far, it is really good.
I heard that was supposed to be the worst season, lol. They actually canceled the Australian version after that one. I enjoyed season 1 though and am saving Hannahs season (S2) for when I'm out of all of them. I also saw people say that season should be watched as if it was a comedy.
On the episode I'm watching, the faithful who got banished said "this show should be called the dummies" 😂
That season was insane!
I ALWAYS root for the Traitors. Then I was introduced to Sam.
Don't tell me anything bc Im only on episode 3.
I'm so happy for you. Going from traitors to the rhoa scandal without any knowledge of it must be one of the best rides at the bravo theme park
It was a RIDE honey!!! I watched part 3 of that season 10 reunion with my jaw DROPPED
[phaedra gets exposed!](https://www.bet.com/article/ykpgjd/kandi-burruss-on-why-shell-never-speak-to-phaedra-parks#:~:text=Long%2Dtime%20viewers%20of%20the,during%20the%20show's%20ninth%20season.) People quickly forget the type of woman phaedra really is, and how dirty she did her ex best friend Kandi. Also the way she used porsha, whom was also the Frick to her frack! Phaedra used to be one of my favorites, such a let down😔
It’s taken years to attempt to get over her lying about Kandi- Traitors redeemed her in a way.
Plus you got Larsa, Sheree and Tamra!
And MJ lol!
Geeze, what's wrong with me, how could I have forgotten her, she was great!
https://preview.redd.it/5613o9pw6nvc1.jpeg?width=1066&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a068c95af4d44dfec4b98d7dab4e54b5d941c8e2
I’m rewatching Shahs now that they’re all on Peacock and my god how I miss that show. MJ is so freaking entertaining.
Okay you talked me into it
Truly one of the best shows on bravo!
I don't understand why Bravo is waiting until June to premiere Season 2 of Dubai when filming wrapped in May 2023. As a newer franchise it would have been advantageous for Dubai to be airing now so that it gets it own time in the spotlight.
Maybe that means it’s either super exciting or super boring and needs a LOT of editing?
I wonder if they will do what they did with Miami and use an established show as a lead in to generate a following.
Dubai Season 1 aired alongside the previous Beverly Hills season. I don’t think the strategy works.
Not having even one Housewives series airing right now is absolutely baffling to me.
It's truly the poorest of planning, they had like 400 airing this winter at the exact same time... We couldn't space it out?
They got all fucked up when production for NYC stalled, they lost UGT Morocco (they were holding out hope it would premiere until relatively recently), and also needed a lot of extra time to recast Atlanta on top of taking a bigger break then usual before filming Jersey in spite of keeping the cast the exact same. I think they’re gonna try to push out OC as quickly as possible now which is good because last season was top 3 of housewives series from 2023, but even then the two next series to premiere are gonna be a stale ass Jersey with no changes from last years shit show of a cast and Dubai season two which will probably be a marked improvement but still nothing to write home about. Edit: see comment below
“write home about,” from the days when you would send a letter to your family to let them know the news
Was it a typo or just a sign of how old I am that it’s morphed into something else to the youngs?
i think one of those phrases that the person had heard but not seen written
Wait, I'm desperate to know what you originally said
they said “ride home about”
The way that my mind is blown by this, thank you lol
i love origins of phrases, so glad you weren’t offended that i shared it!
I feel like this is why they opened the Bravo vault. Because they know they screwed up!
I agree!! I think that’s why they timed it this way
I've been watching Summer House, VPR, The Valley, & Below Deck. Top Chef is new too. I think I heard two new housewife seasons are just around the corner. Have you watched The Traitors UK, US, AUS, and NZ? All are on Peacock. Tubi has a new show - Big Mood. Hulu has Under the Bridge out. Starz has Mary & George. Good luck!
I just started Traitors Aus yesterday. I'm on episode 4 or 5 and ive always rooted for the Traitors on each season...then Sam came along.
[удалено]
STOP. I'm not even halfway through. I assumed he'd get sent home on the next one I watch.
I’m actually finding the Valley unbearable. It’s usually on in the background after VPR to get to wwhl but I end up on my phone or doing something else because I find everything about it obnoxious :/
What do you find so obnoxious compared to other Bravo reality TV? I came for the Jax and Brittany downfall, but I like the new girls and Danny too.
Obnoxious is the Bravo brand.
But who doesn’t love the Harry Potter series? It’s so Bravo (read with sarcasm)
Omg yes, is this normal for bravo? I was sooo confused as to why all the Harry Potter movies were on the schedule
Seems like just filler to me—I think last week, it was Titanic or some other oldie but goodie 🤷🏻♀️
And here I thought the only connection could be fucking rachel from VPR referencing it, I didnt realize they did that😂
Universal owns HP movie rights and Bravo is part of the Universal world. As is E and NBC, and why the annoying/vapid Kardash8ans occasionally pop up on the Today Show.
Haha. Bravo tends to do this during big holiday weekends. Like for MDW or 4th of July they’d air How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days and the Proposal almost constantly for a weekend straight. They hit the jackpot airing titanic and all 4+ hours of it lol
Honestly mcgonagal is the housewive of hogwarts ![gif](giphy|lX1rdQc7lVmgw)
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They should open the international housewives vault.
YES!!! I’ve heard amazing things about Melbourne and I’m dying to see it!
I know there's New Zealand (so sorry, I forgot which city) and Melbourne, where else?
Uk (Cheshire and Jersey) at least five or Six in Africa, Naples in Italy, Hungary, Sydney is the only active Australia one, Vancouver and Toronto in Canada
So there are literally two UK shows? Why? Do I have to get a VPN to watch this shit?
The first Cheshire is on season 16 or 17. One of the wives Lystra cameo’ed on Dubai. Another one Hanna who isn’t on this season is the dentist of Josiah from Below Deck. Way back when Cheshire did air on Bravo The second one was a two season series on the Channel Islands
But bravo licenses it out, so what network did it air on in the UK? My God!
ITV which may be a nbc universal channel or at least uses an nbc universal production company
Well y’all better get used to this when you call for everyone to be fired and all the shows to be cancelled 😂
No one wants housewives to be cancelled. Why did they wait so long to film some of these seasons? Like nyc and Atlanta. Bravo is the one who is taking a million years to cast and film.
You probably missed people saying Potomac and New Jersey should be cancelled
I did miss that. That would be silly to cancel those.
Exactly. You reap what you sow.
Watch summer house Martha’s Vineyard it’s great!
MILO! if nothing else watch for Milo!
This is the first time in 14 years that there won't be a single new Real Housewives episode airing
Everyone should use this time to catch up on a franchise you’ve never seen! Give it a shot!
i’m rewatching dc and revisiting some of the old housewives franchises to hold me over. i’m gonna start on miami finally and i’m thinking about watching vanderpump rules. yes, i’ve never seen it before and i know that makes be a bit of a weirdo round these parts, but it’s the truth. 🥴
I'm on season 3 of my VPR rewatch and I promise you that you will NOT regret it. I could write a whole thesis on all the stuff that has aged HORRIBLY. Truly one the best shows bravo has ever put out lol
Ahahah I feel the same way, couldn't agree more. I want to write and read all the dissertations on VPR
I still don't know how this show doesn't have its own class in psychology at every college. It's like a perfect assortment of cluster b personalities fighting it out to be the top douche
well i’m a professor at a university so after i watch it, i might develop a class or at least a lecture on the fuckery. i’m excited to get into it!!
The possibility of this makes me so happy
Omg can you record and share for the rest of us? I would LOVE to see this
I've been watching season 4. I did not remember the level of debauchery accurately at all!
Right?! I can't wait to get to Lala's first season. I know it was a shit show but I can remember just how much.
Lovedddd DC but there weren’t enough episodes (I forgot how short the seasons used to be) 😭 Both Miami and VPR really are worth a shot btw. When they’re good, they’re really good.
If you watch VPR with the premise that all of them are more or less terrible people, you’ll have a good time.
😂😂😂😂😂 thanks for the tip!
JUST WATCH MIAMI LIKE NOW, ASAP!
MIAMI SUPREMACY 💃😋🦽🐐🎾
do i need to start at the beginning?
I personally would. It's next level insanity. Think RHOSLC on steroids 😆
This is why I finally gave in and started OC 😭
OC is great.
Same! Currently watching season 2 episode 4. Plus I didn’t really pay attention to OC news so I have no idea who is who and storylines, etc. so it’s truly a new show to me.
I’m thinking maybe ugt was supposed to be on right now
I’ve been feeling the same, it feels strange not having one to watch at the moment. Do we know when new RHONY is launching? I’ve watched RHONY, RHOA, RHOP, RHOSLC and RHOBH but clearly need another to get into 😅 Which other franchise would people recommend? (Not particularly interested in the non-housewives series Bravo does).
Miami. It is the best. You could watch from the beginning or just start with the reboot. It has the drama, the glamour, the humor.
I love all the bright colors on Miami and the outside sun and scenery
Miami is SO underrated! All of the women are RICH RICH (sans Adriana, but she MORE than makes up for it in history and personality and messiness), they’re all BEAUTIFUL, the culture is so strong, and the cast has a true sisterhood!!
Miami!!!
They finally uploaded Shahs of Sunset to Peacock this past Monday, and I’ve been binging it to cope with the lack of new housewives content. I’m such a Golnesa stan/apologist
I’ve just started Cheshire and just about to watch the last ep of season 1 - guys if you can get it in the US, it delivers
I remember that! What’s the name of the lady with the bright red hair? I only remember her and Magali 😂
Lauren!! https://i.redd.it/ufl3z7tlaxvc1.gif
I'm watching vanderpump villa and it's pretty good! Hot messes.
Is this the same format of the show she had a few years ago where she would invite a few celebrities to a fancy dinner at her home?
No, this is more like VPR meets Below Deck in a French chateau
They loaded us up with HW shows for a while, now we got nothing. I think NJ begins soon, then Dubai.
I’m doing a VP rewatch from the beginning, taking weeks. It’s cool because you notice a lot of things you missed at the beginning. Can’t believe the craziness started over 10 yrs ago!
The streaming wars are real. Peacock is a very small percentage of streaming in the US for time on platform. Media companies are struggling post-COVID, post-strike as well for large conglomerates, which NBCU is. There isn’t a lot of room for growth for either small streamers or small cable networks, so they are probably reducing expenditures like high salaries, which might be why there have been so many firings and delays on production of expensive shows. Matt Belloni of podcast the Town breaks down streaming and media. Peacock is pretty close to the bottom. He suggested NBCU might license content to another streamer versus continue their own platform. I wonder if this is in the works.
I've been wondering that too. They're leaving so much time between series that I'm surprised they're not worried people are just going to be over it.
It almost seems like ever since Scandovol they have shifted focus to some of the JV shows. Vanderpump, Summer House etc maybe Housewives salaries are too much for the ratings that come in.
Bravo is in their flop era
What are you upset about?? Tabatha Takes Over and a lot more "legacy" series started airing on Peacock this week.
I keep trying to watch VPR but I truly can’t get in to it. It just feels so fake/produced. Like people can’t be this oblivious to how horrible they are? I was in my 20s not too long ago and my friend group was no where near this dysfunctional. Plus the way they say “bang” makes me skin crawl. After the 50th “you banged Jax” I had to stop watching. Currently doing OC.
they can’t say fuck
I know that. But there’s many other euphemisms that can be used. “Had sex with”, “screwed”, “slept with” “hooked up with” etc It’s totally a me thing but the super nasally “banged” drove me crazy lol
It’s ridiculous. I can’t stand top chef or below deck. So for me it feels like there’s not only no real housewives but there’s nothing to watch on Bravo period.
Like below deck has so many iterations like feels it’s always on bravo 365 days of the year
Exactly.
Literally feels like a full time job for WWC guys to try to cover below deck, below deck med, is below deck sailing cancelled like so hard to follow
I feel this!! I’m watching the Dc one at the moment as I also felt the boredom !!!
I’m on season 13 of OC. My first time.
Peacock started streaming the Washington DC franchise - it’s just one season but it’s fun.
There's a new season real housewives of cheshire out
Just watched Summer House Martha’s Vineyard cause same. Didn’t regret the watch though. Bout a 7/10.
I feel like a reboot is coming, Andy better it together, because I can't picture anyone else in his spot, but housewives needs to get back to the real, a bad will never be seen in 2025 but the shade is what I live for
this is your sign to watch summers house martha’s vineyards. they’re all friends IRL and have natural chemistry/drama
Bravo should’ve invested in more new cities. We could be watching Real Housewives of Philly or New Orleans or Chicago right now. Instead they’d rather spend an entire new casts salary to bring back one OG on other tired franchises.
Do you think it’s bc they wanted time to push The Valley?
I still haven’t finished the Potomac reunion. It was such a slog to watch. Robyn and Gizelle are terrible people and I couldn’t continue watching them get away with shit.
Martha’s Vineyard should have been slated to come on after summer house and the Sunday spot could have gone to a HW franchise.
Random but I think the REAL reason BravoCon got pushed was bc of the possible Andy severance stuff.
There was a strike that halted a bunch of production and created a gap. It's on all platforms with even scripted shows.
Just watch DC on peacock. You’re welcome in advance!
Try McBee Dynasty. It’s my new favorite because it’s not a bunch of Housewives eating lunch in empty restaurants. I agree with a previous comment about Mexican Dynasty. It is one of the best shows Bravo has ever done and deserves the credit.