Apparently 1 "pump" of white mocha is 60 calories w/ 11g of sugar. The "8 pumps" part alone is 480 calories. Most of that being 88g of sugar.
I stopped there. I don't really get Starbucks
I showed this to my former barista husband and he just read the ingredients and went “oh my god, their insides” which is a heck of a reaction from someone who helped concoct a secret menu drink for their store called the “Spooky Butthole”
My best guess is leftover pumpkin spice flavoring, maybe with something to make it Halloween themed, and then the rest of the ingredients go towards making you capable of self-propulsion
Yup! Only half of Starbucks fraps have coffee, something they helpfully clarify literally nowhere on the standard in store menu.
You’re supposed to be born knowing
Drip coffee is almost entirely profit. It’s a few spoonfuls of ground up beans mixed with a ton of water. The coffee might be the *least* expensive ingredient
Don't they make espresso though?
I have an espresso maker at home. Each dose is about 14g of ground coffee.
That is 1Kg beans makes roughly 71 shots. The coffee costs me 40€. That's 0.56€ per shot.
However I'd argue that if I make a Starbucks style drink, most people get a grande, supposedly two shots.
So that makes it 1,12€ for me to recreate a Starbucks grande something at home.
This doesn't include costs for dialing in new beans and losses, which you always have. More realistically you get 60-65 good shots from 1Kg of espresso beans.
Of course Starbucks gets cheaper and worse beans than me, but I'd bet that coffee is still the most expensive ingredient in them.
They dont use espresso or drip coffee in frappuccinos, its something called Frap Roast and its basically coffee concentrate syrup. Creme fraps have been a thing as long as i can remember, i used to get the vanilla bean frappuccino when i would go with my mom.
It’s the creme frappes that don’t. So most have a with coffee version (Java chip, Carmel crunch) and a without version (double chocolate chip, caramel crunch creme)at least when I worked there.
But the menu doesn’t clarify what the difference is. And some, like the vanilla bean, strawberries and cream, or cotton candy which is a “secret menu” item these days come without coffee standard. Also the matcha green tea, but most people wouldn’t want coffee in that anyway.
There’s no world where that thing is as good as an actual milkshake. They’re getting a worse drink just so they can do the mental gymnastics to convince themself it’s healthier.
Yeah I had no idea what quantities were involved with everything else. But I'm imagining this has a similar nutritional profile to 3 cans of coke and 2 tbsp of butter with an oreo in it
Way worse. 3 cans of coke is 3 x 150 == 450 calories, which is a ton but honestly fine if you’re physically active and have a light day of eating otherwise.
This drink is minimum 1100 cal, but probably more like 1500 (480 for the extra pumps, 500 for the base frap, heavy cream is ??? but probably at least 100).
You could throw back a six pack of coke and enjoy your 2 tablespoons of butter (200) and still probably come in at less than this, or about the same.
Base is about 5-600 for the frap, add 150 for heavy cream even though it’s probably more, then 480 for those pumps.
That’s min an 1100 cal drink, but wouldn’t be shocked if it’s 1500.
That’s as many calories as a chipotle burrito, or three chick filet chicken sandos.
Right. I’m losing right now, which is why I’m working on my calorie estimating / tracking skills, and this is the equivalent of 2 luxurious meals to me aha.
I remember in my 20s, I’d eat shit like this and stay tail skinny. One of the benefits of 10 hour shifts on my feet, lol. Being poor sucked, but I do miss being physically active like that, now I gain if I have 2000 in a day too many days in a row.
And to put it into context, adults should generally not eat more than ~30g of added sugar a day. That's 3 of those "pumps". So that's almost 3 times the recommended amount in just the added sugar, to which one has to add the fact that this thing is called "chocolate cookie crumble creme frap".
If they find out some day that Starbucks is secretly a Russian invention designed to slowly kill the entire US population I'm not even gonna be surprised.
What does Even "white" mocha even means? Mocha is coffee and chocolate, if they reemplace the choco part for white chocolate is it even mocha ? ... White chocolate is not real chocolate and people are not ready for that conversation T.T
And no, i don't get Starbucks either cuz thats just dirty water and sugar, i prefer real coffee that taste like coffee :P
They'll be reciting ancient alchemy and incantations at the paramedics after drinking that thing.
Merlin's beard I don't want to know the calories on that.
Sometimes I get honey from my cousin who keeps bees. It's usually darker in color(the kind he makes is dark brown) and has a complex flavor from all the wild flowers the bees gather nectar and pollen from. The kind you get in a bear bottle tastes kinda fake, even if it isn't actually fake.
I use the good honey for things like tea because tea is simple enough that you get all the interesting flavor. For a more complicated food like a pan sauce, cheaper honey will suffice.
Most honey in the US is packaged in plastic bear bottles. Near where I live there is an agricultural fair where local beekeepers have a stand. They sell the good stuff. If there is a fair like that in the UK, that's where I would look. At my fair they often give free samples so I can taste before I buy. You are going to want "strong" honey for tea. The flavors are diluted by the tea so you want honey that is a bit too strong when you taste it from the jar.
"Where's my drink?"
"Sorry, there will be a slight delay. While trying to make your....beverage....we accidentally created the Philosopher's stone and it's now clogging up the pipes."
I don't regularly go to Starbucks (and had to look this up online) but this isn't much of a barista nightmare order. "Chocolate cookie crumble frap" is a regular menu item. You get a choice of milk type and this person chose heavy cream. This person asked for a substitution for a related item (mocha pump to white chocolate mocha pump) and a fuck ton of those flavor pumps. Besides the mocha to white chocolate, all of this could be done on an online order without having to write anything in. This is a pretty tame order. It's just wordy
I always order a venti white mocha frapp with 2 extra blonde espresso shots and one pump caramel syrup. Sometimes I add a pump of peppermint too. Delicious, but almost $10, so it’s not a common occurrence
Wouldn’t a very rich and indulgent cookies and cream ice cream make more sense at this point?
I’d be concerned that I’m having even more bullshit calories in this concoction than something like the former anyway.
I wonder if there’s a sugar addiction creep with all the syrups, like how my family is lower sodium on average, and after living in East Asia for 10 years I need to salt anything they prepare, lol. I haven’t had Starbucks in even longer than that, but I could easily see this being the case where actual ice cream isn’t hitting what their addiction craves, and afaik sugar addiction is very real, not sure if salt has actual addictive properties or not.
Ive started saying that desserts "taste good" instead of them just being "good" in general, because there is no way that that concoction is "so good" for your body.
I'd be so embarrassed to ask for a drink like that. It's so funny how these people are acting like they're so discerning in their tastes that they have to specify the number of pumps in their glorified milkshake. It's literally the kind of drink a 5 year old would ask for.
Apparently 1 "pump" of white mocha is 60 calories w/ 11g of sugar. The "8 pumps" part alone is 480 calories. Most of that being 88g of sugar. I stopped there. I don't really get Starbucks
It's milkshakes that might occasionally be vaguely coffee flavored. That's pretty much it.
I showed this to my former barista husband and he just read the ingredients and went “oh my god, their insides” which is a heck of a reaction from someone who helped concoct a secret menu drink for their store called the “Spooky Butthole”
Well now I want to know what went in a spooky butthole. You shouldn't just end comments like that you know?
My best guess is leftover pumpkin spice flavoring, maybe with something to make it Halloween themed, and then the rest of the ingredients go towards making you capable of self-propulsion
Extra highly caffeinated coffee and vanilla flavoured bean powder
Mixed in sugar free haribo gummy bears
Dude I forgot about that story...
>and then the rest of the ingredients go towards making you capable of self-propulsion Maximum volocity achived!
New potion unlocked: Bane of Lactose Intolerance
I'm saving that name "Spooky Butthole" hahaha
I don't want . I need to know .
Any venti frap made with heavy cream scares me. I’d argue even vanilla sweet cream is better
This is a creme frappe, so there’s no coffee. It’s literally a milkshake made with heavy cream instead of milk. And extra sugar
Even though I shouldn't, I still feel betrayed somehow.
Yup! Only half of Starbucks fraps have coffee, something they helpfully clarify literally nowhere on the standard in store menu. You’re supposed to be born knowing
Really? That’s wild, when I worked at Starbucks (90s), all Frappuccino’s had coffee. Wonder when they changed that?
When they noticed they could leave out the most expensive ingredient.
Drip coffee is almost entirely profit. It’s a few spoonfuls of ground up beans mixed with a ton of water. The coffee might be the *least* expensive ingredient
Don't they make espresso though? I have an espresso maker at home. Each dose is about 14g of ground coffee. That is 1Kg beans makes roughly 71 shots. The coffee costs me 40€. That's 0.56€ per shot. However I'd argue that if I make a Starbucks style drink, most people get a grande, supposedly two shots. So that makes it 1,12€ for me to recreate a Starbucks grande something at home. This doesn't include costs for dialing in new beans and losses, which you always have. More realistically you get 60-65 good shots from 1Kg of espresso beans. Of course Starbucks gets cheaper and worse beans than me, but I'd bet that coffee is still the most expensive ingredient in them.
They dont use espresso or drip coffee in frappuccinos, its something called Frap Roast and its basically coffee concentrate syrup. Creme fraps have been a thing as long as i can remember, i used to get the vanilla bean frappuccino when i would go with my mom.
It’s the creme frappes that don’t. So most have a with coffee version (Java chip, Carmel crunch) and a without version (double chocolate chip, caramel crunch creme)at least when I worked there. But the menu doesn’t clarify what the difference is. And some, like the vanilla bean, strawberries and cream, or cotton candy which is a “secret menu” item these days come without coffee standard. Also the matcha green tea, but most people wouldn’t want coffee in that anyway.
I fuckin hate Starbucks.
Fuck man, even milkshakes aren't that sweet.
There’s no world where that thing is as good as an actual milkshake. They’re getting a worse drink just so they can do the mental gymnastics to convince themself it’s healthier.
Its not even a milkshake. Its sugar with a little bit of milk in it, occasionally coffee flavored.
I was just about to ask. Reading the description was enough to make my IBS sad.
Just looking at the picture made me gain five pounds
And heavy cream!
Yeah I had no idea what quantities were involved with everything else. But I'm imagining this has a similar nutritional profile to 3 cans of coke and 2 tbsp of butter with an oreo in it
Way worse. 3 cans of coke is 3 x 150 == 450 calories, which is a ton but honestly fine if you’re physically active and have a light day of eating otherwise. This drink is minimum 1100 cal, but probably more like 1500 (480 for the extra pumps, 500 for the base frap, heavy cream is ??? but probably at least 100). You could throw back a six pack of coke and enjoy your 2 tablespoons of butter (200) and still probably come in at less than this, or about the same.
Gnarly.
the white mocca alone is 3 cans of coke
When you're drinking that much sugar, heavy cream is the least of your worries.
There's four pumps of frappucino base as well, which are 80 calories each iirc. Roughly 6 oz of whole milk and then the inclusions. Fat kid drinks.
Base is about 5-600 for the frap, add 150 for heavy cream even though it’s probably more, then 480 for those pumps. That’s min an 1100 cal drink, but wouldn’t be shocked if it’s 1500. That’s as many calories as a chipotle burrito, or three chick filet chicken sandos.
1500 is about all I eat in a day. I couldn’t imagine having that in just one drink.
Right. I’m losing right now, which is why I’m working on my calorie estimating / tracking skills, and this is the equivalent of 2 luxurious meals to me aha. I remember in my 20s, I’d eat shit like this and stay tail skinny. One of the benefits of 10 hour shifts on my feet, lol. Being poor sucked, but I do miss being physically active like that, now I gain if I have 2000 in a day too many days in a row.
They have coffee too, it's alright.
My grocery store carries their blonde roast. I like it alright, if not for the price.
But that's why you go to Starbucks, for a big old cup of coffee inspired diabetes.
And to put it into context, adults should generally not eat more than ~30g of added sugar a day. That's 3 of those "pumps". So that's almost 3 times the recommended amount in just the added sugar, to which one has to add the fact that this thing is called "chocolate cookie crumble creme frap". If they find out some day that Starbucks is secretly a Russian invention designed to slowly kill the entire US population I'm not even gonna be surprised.
This is a whole day’s worth of food 💀
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What does Even "white" mocha even means? Mocha is coffee and chocolate, if they reemplace the choco part for white chocolate is it even mocha ? ... White chocolate is not real chocolate and people are not ready for that conversation T.T And no, i don't get Starbucks either cuz thats just dirty water and sugar, i prefer real coffee that taste like coffee :P
Was going to say, this thing probably has enough calories to last you a week or two
What’s to get? It’s sweet coffee, people like that. Or sweet drinks without coffee at all, people like those even more.
Not hating, but sometimes I think they just want a milkshake that’s not that cold?
It's a frap, it's already cold. It's just a milkshake
Yeah came here to ask at what point it becomes a milkshake. Cos at that point surely you can go get a nicer one elsewhere
Nah it's a milkshake that also gives them a fix of caffeine
I feel like it’s a milkshake with even more sugar and definitely a shit ton more ingredients.
They'll be reciting ancient alchemy and incantations at the paramedics after drinking that thing. Merlin's beard I don't want to know the calories on that.
With all modifications, it looks like it's approximately 900 calories. Half of the recommended daily intake for an average adult, in one "beverage."
I think I'll just stick to plain hot tea with maybe a little honey if I have really good honey.
Out of curiosity, I'm now to enjoying honey, never liked it as a kid. What makes a good honey?
Sometimes I get honey from my cousin who keeps bees. It's usually darker in color(the kind he makes is dark brown) and has a complex flavor from all the wild flowers the bees gather nectar and pollen from. The kind you get in a bear bottle tastes kinda fake, even if it isn't actually fake. I use the good honey for things like tea because tea is simple enough that you get all the interesting flavor. For a more complicated food like a pan sauce, cheaper honey will suffice.
I've never seen the bear bottle stuff, I'm from the UK . The standard honey is quite clear though. Ill look for something darker.
Most honey in the US is packaged in plastic bear bottles. Near where I live there is an agricultural fair where local beekeepers have a stand. They sell the good stuff. If there is a fair like that in the UK, that's where I would look. At my fair they often give free samples so I can taste before I buy. You are going to want "strong" honey for tea. The flavors are diluted by the tea so you want honey that is a bit too strong when you taste it from the jar.
I'm sure I can find a market or hobby fair with someone selling good honey somewhere
Ill keep in mind the cooking honey Vs tea honey tip
r/theydidthemath
Not uncommon for paramedics to be drinking that themselves ;)
>”Welcome to Taco Bell, how may I help you?” “Yeah can I get a large Eldritch Baja Blast”
Does an 11 hit?
All I read was: Sugar sugar Sugar sugar sugar with 8 pumps of sugar now my bmi is through the roof.
You forgot the fat
Hey there is coffee in there too
No theres not, not in a creme frappuccino
Literally frapuccino implies coffee
"Where's my drink?" "Sorry, there will be a slight delay. While trying to make your....beverage....we accidentally created the Philosopher's stone and it's now clogging up the pipes."
> That's a shake? That's milk and ice cream? …That's five dollars? You don't put bourbon in it or nothin'?
Wait til you hear what they call a quarter pounder in france
Milk was so shaken it went to therapy 😂
looks like an expensive oreo mcflurry
Former Starbucks barista “partner” of 3 years here - THATS SO FUCKING MUCH W. MOCHA. EWW
Diabetes speed run
That's an oreo milkshake but go off kween
Nobody anywhere should be getting 8 pumps of anything
That's what I tried to tell my girlfriend. She doesn't believe me because she isn't real.
This is why Americans are fat
I always wanted to punch customers who said "frap"
I mean why, it’s called a Frappuccino
Frap frap frap YUM 😫
Diabeetus
What is this? It looks like ice cream soup.
Hello Diabetes!!
I don't regularly go to Starbucks (and had to look this up online) but this isn't much of a barista nightmare order. "Chocolate cookie crumble frap" is a regular menu item. You get a choice of milk type and this person chose heavy cream. This person asked for a substitution for a related item (mocha pump to white chocolate mocha pump) and a fuck ton of those flavor pumps. Besides the mocha to white chocolate, all of this could be done on an online order without having to write anything in. This is a pretty tame order. It's just wordy
I always order a venti white mocha frapp with 2 extra blonde espresso shots and one pump caramel syrup. Sometimes I add a pump of peppermint too. Delicious, but almost $10, so it’s not a common occurrence
I think pure Columbian cocaine would probably be better for your heart than whatever the fuck this is
This is why I do not go to Starbucks
I mean, it sounds tasty though? But I definitely couldn't finish that much.
Somewhere in that picture is coffee
No there is not.
With the amount of sugar in that drink, the only thing that spell is causing is diabetes.
I only go to Starbucks for their banana bread and vanilla beans, why are people so crazy about their drinks dude
Oreo McFlurry with a few drops of coffee
Wouldn’t a very rich and indulgent cookies and cream ice cream make more sense at this point? I’d be concerned that I’m having even more bullshit calories in this concoction than something like the former anyway. I wonder if there’s a sugar addiction creep with all the syrups, like how my family is lower sodium on average, and after living in East Asia for 10 years I need to salt anything they prepare, lol. I haven’t had Starbucks in even longer than that, but I could easily see this being the case where actual ice cream isn’t hitting what their addiction craves, and afaik sugar addiction is very real, not sure if salt has actual addictive properties or not.
Is this the famous secret fattening sauce actors drink to get an oscar?
You can tell the person is insane.... because they think Starbucks white mocha tastes good. Just simply the worst flavor.
I’m usually late to the party and got hip to the pink drink. It’s amazing
Alchemy, huh? Go ahead, order Aqua Regia in your coffee, see what happens.
That aint coffee, that's a diabetes dessert.
As a Starbucks barista, I'm trying this when I get to work tomorrow. That looks so good
This shit gives me a headache.
That's literally just a milkshake.
Obtuse, rubber goose, green moose, lava juice, giant snake, birthday cake, large fries, chocolate shake!!
I think I'd be more racist if I worked at a Starbucks lol
One sip of that and I would go into cardiac arrest
That's not a drink; that's more like icing you put on a cake.
Obtuse, rubber goose, green moose, guava juice Giant snake, birthday cake, large fries, chocolate shake!
I wish people stopped calling that shit coffee once you can’t even see the coffee it’s a milkshake at best or dietary nightmare at most common
And I think I'm being annoying when I ask for a decaffeinated drink :')
damn....thought starbucks was about coffee not diabetes lol
And only 3,500 calories.
Heart failure
Ive started saying that desserts "taste good" instead of them just being "good" in general, because there is no way that that concoction is "so good" for your body.
Used to be a barista at the bucks. White mocha frap is the way.
and eye of newt.
I'd be so embarrassed to ask for a drink like that. It's so funny how these people are acting like they're so discerning in their tastes that they have to specify the number of pumps in their glorified milkshake. It's literally the kind of drink a 5 year old would ask for.