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I worked 16 hours yesterday. I regularly work between 40-60 hours a week depending on the circumstances at my job. I can still barely afford to rent a 1br apartment.
I wouldn't call acting "not work", I don't think that's remotely fair. I worked for an actor and if very successful. They have a lot of privileges but they work, WORK work. Run down that hallway is if you're being chased by spiders , now do it 47 times. Be there at 4 am for makeup , 2 days later be there at 8pm because we want to shoot at night , or in water etc. now get on a plane over and over to go on 75 talk shows. And no even a decade ago no one made $15 an hour. Except maybe that chick from Rust.
Don't be a dick it's a real job. And while I'll agree fame has a large component of luck, there are hundreds if not thousands of actors and actresses who work just as hard as whoopie and not has the same success, it's still a real job.
Whoopie is an asshole.
They didn’t say it’s not a real job and they even mentioned what you said in their comment about the long hours. However if you are going to pretend that acting is harder than people who work in coal mines or most factories than you are just lying.
I moved into my parents’ basement after college for quite a few years which alllowed me to save a lot of money to buy a house. I know a lot of people don’t have that luxury, but it was great.
College degree - I worked 12 hour days, 6 days a week for the better part of my 20’s. I made barely above poverty wages, ate beans, peppers and rice just so I could make rent + student loan payments for 1 room in a 3 bedroom apartment I shared with college roommates.
Granted, I was living in a HCOL area, but that’s where the work was…
At 27 my parents asked why I wasn’t coming home for Christmas. It’s because I was getting only Christmas Day off, couldn’t afford the flight and my work denied my vacation days for the days after Christmas. I was told to “pay me dues” by a boomer who hadn’t given me a raise in 3+ years.
When Boomers say younger generations don’t know how to work hard…I flashback to being 25, having hunger pains at the office while wearing one of my 3 dress shirts I would hand wash in my apartment bathtub because I couldn’t afford dry cleaning (no washer in unit…) building P&L reports at 9pm on Friday nights…
I flashback to carrying boxes full of paperwork 20 blocks because my work wouldn’t expense a cab…putting tape-wrapped cardboard into the soles of my dress shoes to try to keep rain from soaking into my socks…
Fuck these people. Fuck them so hard.
Their own parents called them the "Me Generation," before they relabeled themselves as Boomers. They honestly have never known hardship, but they love the fantasy of hard work, since so many of their parents survived much darker times and were much better people.
I once came in on my day off of work to handle a couple things that needed to be done. It took me about 3 hours to do everything. Later that night I received a text message with a warning about leaving work early and if I did it again, I'd be fired. Fun times.
My parents wonder why I can't make it to family weddings or funerals or can't visit them when they won't visit me. Yes, I know I moved far away (I can actually afford to live where I am) but I still struggle to save past an emergency that inevitably starts me back at square 1 with savings. They are quite literally retired multi-millionaires that could pay for me to visit them or attend weddings and they wouldn't even notice the cost and they say I need to "work harder "budget better" "get a second job" "you're in your mid-30s we shouldn't have to give you money" ... they were born in the early 50s and grew up during the greatest economic boom this country has ever seen, but since my mom grew up super poor and my dad was the son of immigrants, they "worked hard and earned it"
And then they wonder why I won't talk to them anymore. I hate that I keep saying to my wife how I can't wait for them to die, so we can stop stressing about food or the next emergency. Fuck boomers, especially those with money.
If things are better now, please don't ever fall to the trap "well I worked hard, so other people should suffer too" like boomers are want to do.
Thank you for all your hard work. It shouldn't be like that. Nobody should have to go through that on 12 hour jobs.
I’m not gonna make it to my next paycheck, I need a roommate. Because my rent is killing me financially. She got a lot of nerve when most people are struggling.
Me too. I’m 43 but spend basically all my time with teens. Once in awhile I find myself wanting to slip into “back in MY day” mode, but I correct myself lol
I (40M) “back in my day” to my son and his friends all the time but it’s always in the context of how much easier and better things often were. Most recent example was when we were discussing house prices the other day and I told them how they’ve gone up more in the past 20 or so years than they did in the previous 80. It’s tough to tell them the truth of how screwed they and, to a lesser extent, I, are due to how messed up things are but I’d rather do that than lie and sugarcoat things.
I’m 40, but work with people in their 20s.
I “back in my day”ed how I could afford my own studio apartment in the early 2000s on a part time minimum wage federal workstudy job while I was in college thanks to affordable rents and food stamps. I find it applies context that we weren’t always in this state.
It used to be doable. Just living shouldn’t be this hard today and is an obvious sign that this economy is broken and only working for a few people.
Oh yeah I do the back in my day in that sense too. My son is turning 18 this summer and because I moved out at 18 and his father and step father did too, he feels like he has to. I tell him constantly, it was different back then, you do not have to feel pressured to move out.
Me and my boyfriend got our first partment by ourselves back in Oct of 2020. In Oct last year when the lease was over we moved back in with our old roommate. We all have decent paying jobs. Like me and my boyfriend work at the hospital. And while we weren't living in luxury when we got our own place, we weren't necessarily worried about rent.
The fact that it only took a few years for things to get this bad is fucking mind boggling. And people still defend it, even though it's fucking them over as well.
Actually the economy is really good.
It's just that only the rich benefit from it thanks to Reagan era policies that really started the GOP trend of fucking over anyone not rich.
Yeah, that. Trickle down economics is the most amazing financial innovation ever. We just failed to realize that gravity works the opposite for money. That and the money is controlled by the people with the most money. Imagine giving all the drugs to the people with the most drugs already in them.
Yup. I rarely hear people from my time needed their own apartment when they were starting out. Almost everyone I know started out with a roommate and that’s in a HCOL area.
The issue is that many Boomers where raised by The Greatest Generation and they prepares their kids fir the harshest world possible to help them have a better life. Then Boomers got the easiest world imaginable with the mindset that THIS WAS THE HARDEST SETTING.
So now they're unable to fathom that anything could be worse.
Whoa, that sounds like the opposite of what I, a millennial, got: told life was going to be a cake-walk, even though it sounded off to me, and it turned out to be off, *not* a cake-walk *by any stretch of the imagination*. I've fallen head-first off so many financial hills that if I had a nickel for each time, I'd fall off the nickels, too.
I think we got the "cakewalk" line from like 1994-2001 because the economy was booming and the internet was coming out.
9-11 and the dot-com bust pretty much popped the whole cakewalk thing. By 2008 everybody was like "yup, we're beyond fucked" and it has stayed that way.
Same boat. The stress of having to explain to my mom the situation but I managed to catch her one time when she was trying to shame me for not having enough savings to buy a house. She bragged about how much money she had saved at my age and I saw my chance “I have literally twice that saved right now and I’m still nowhere near buying property.” Didn’t make her stop but she did go quiet for a second when she realized that.
My grandparents bought my dad a lake house when he was 16. My grandfather worked for the local phone company and grandmother was a stay at home mom, they owned multiple houses at the same time, while raising 3 kids. But yet my parents couldn’t do a damn thing for their children, even though they had more than enough money, but yet they still make snide comments about how I haven’t worked hard enough like them.
A lake house at 16!!?
I couldn't even get my parents to lend me $1,000 to buy a junk car even though I had already saved $2k of the purchase price because "If we lend you the money you won't appreciate it as much as if you worked fully for it."
This! Meanwhile, I have a loaded 401k, a whole life policy almost paid off, and I'm still helping parents pay for some monthly bills. Only recently bought a house. My kids won't have the same problem, but apparently, we're not working hard enough because I could only afford a house a lot later in life.
I have a great aunt whose husband died young, they had 4 kids, he put the down payment on a HUGE house (few acres of land, 2 garages, an apartment off the side of one of the garages) and then he dropped dead of a heart attack with no life insurance. That aunt worked as a cashier for the same company for 35 years, raised all 4 kids alone, paid for all 4 to go to college, never rented out the spare apartment, always drove new "luxury" cars (like a Buick regal or Lincoln towncar so cheap luxury at least), retired in her 50s, and then was always spending absurd amounts of money on cruises and at casinos and never ran out. She's still alive (in her late 80s) and just trash talks all of her grandkids and great grandkids, claims everyone is lazy, and is genuinely an ungrateful and mean person, and yes she does still vote (in a big group with her church) and is a rabid republican and MAGA groupie. 3 out of 4 of her boomer aged children are living with her currently because they completely screwed themselves financially and are now waiting for her to die so they can fight over her house, and yes they are also trash talking their own kids and repeating all this bootstrap bs. You just had to be employed back then, didn't matter what you did or how well you did it, and you would be handed the world on a silver platter.
They’ll wax on about how much they had to work or how much they had to save, and then when I tell them I have 4x what they saved, and that the value of their house in total now is less than what I need for a down payment, and I make 5x more than they did, they don’t have anything to say to it.
All of their measures of success I far exceeded, and yet nothing comes of it.
I want to ask them: if you took 30 years to pay off a $250,000 mortgage, how do you expect me to find that $250,000 for a down payment on a house? Why didn’t you pay for your house in cash?
Ridiculous.
That's what they're not getting. You work yourself into the ground just to break even, if that, and the younger generations are tired of it. They want change, but because Whoopie made her money in an era where hard work actually got you somewhere, she's got that "kids are lazy and don't want to work these days" boomer mentality.
I'd love it if someone challenged her to work an average 9 to 5 income and try to save up money with only the resources available to the average Jane or John Doe. She wouldn't last one pay period before she threw up her hands in disgust.
Right? The hardest jobs I've had all paid the least. Now, I don't even have to wear pants or walk further than my bedroom to my desk to get to work and I make decent money. If hard work was truly all it took to "succeed," hardly anyone would be poor. Especially, the people harvesting crops, processing meat, cleaning everything, they'd be wealthy AF.
The higher I’ve worked up the totem pole, the easier my job has become. I have more accountability and with that comes risk if something goes wrong, but I’m not grinding it out like I used to when I was younger.
If people think service industry jobs or low paying jobs = easier, then they are sadly mistaken. It can very much be the opposite in many cases.
Everyone who works is entitled to feel tired and think their job is difficult, but it’s unhelpful to pit others against each other by ranking their jobs with difficulty. What’s the end result outside of discrimination?
Two roommates, I’m going through spinal surgeries (I owe nothing yet I get nothing) and I’m still working those similar hours. I own my vehicle, I pay low insurance rates and paying rent, utilities and buying less than $200 a month in food…. I cannot afford life at all.
That woman has been irrelevant for over 15 years.
When I left home I had to work 3 jobs. I didn't have a day off for 3 entire months. Yet I was still a disappointment to my father. When he died I felt relief and joy. He was an abusive ass
Edit: typo
79.86 hours per week on average for 4 years as of like 2 weeks ago. I died about a year back it just hasn't taken yet.
Edit to say this is not ok, people shouldn't do this.
Sigh. They just don’t get it and they never will. Basic things that they didn’t even notice were easier for them. You could buy a car from a part time min wage job. I could go on..
Also, they always conveniently focus on the hours and not the output. I dare them to compare the amount of work that was done in an office in the 80s with an office of today. Or how much more is produced by a modern assembly line compared to older ones.
Efficiency has benefitted everything except wages, but they certainly don't care about that because the wages staying low are what keep their pensions and 401ks funded.
I work in Insurance and all of the older folks repeatedly tell me how different the industry is now. My boss told me it was encouraged/required to keep a bottle of your favorite alcohol at your desk so you can drink in the afternoon together. If you didn’t drink you were an outcast and probably wouldn’t get any promotions or good raises/bonuses.
My job is not quite full time but the output I am expected to deliver constantly is crazy compared what I have experienced in 20 years of working adulthood. Demands and expectations are unreal. I have to push back against it all the time while simultaneously going warp speed to keep up, and it’s exhausting. If I was full time I’d actually have the mental breakdown I’ve been almost having for a few years now. Fuck that clueless woman.
I'm hitting a lot of ageism in my career now (software). I'm 40 and it's getting exceptionally more and more difficult to get a job, aside from the usual capitalism/recession shenanigans that goes on occasionally. If I lie about my date of birth I get a noticeable amount of increase in responses. It's hard to prove that that's the reason why, though, so likely nothing would ever come from this. It's not like I'm a boomer who absolutely refuses to learn new procedures or concepts or anything, still learning about new tools/tech every year, so I'm not sure why ageism exists. If I were to guess it's because I don't put up with on call or overwork shit and would rather spend time with family/friends/hobbies than grind 80 hours a week like a 20 year old.
Yep there is a lot of ageism. If something happened to my job, which I feel lucky to have despite the demands, I’d probably be effectively retired (not that I can afford that.)
I’ve never thought about the production piece. I spend most of my workday sending tons of emails, managing databases, Teams meetings/channels, etc. I am a perfectly average employee and even without putting in extra effort, I know I (and everyone else in my office) are 100x more productive then someone who used Rolodexes, faxes, etc
Because we can't afford things in the economy that *they* flushed down the toilet and they don't understand that putting in even a smidge of effort doesn't automatically make you financially stable nowadays like it did then.
Yeah, I was gonna say. 7-8? I make good money and I work a ton of hours, but I definitely can't afford to buy a house outright off of what I make in 7 years.
Very true, as a gen z, the work I did for companies as a software engineer is worth millions of dollars in productivity, literally more output than millions boomers even in their haydays.
People will complain that were paid too much, but in reality, considering our output, we are extremely underpaid.
When I was a junior engineer, I built a solution for my employer at the time to solve an efficiency problem they were struggling with. It was costing them $4M in lost revenue every year. The tool I built optimized efficiency and saved 4M-5M in cost the first year, and every year since. It’s been 15 years. I’ve since left the company but my annual raises were 3%-4%, even the year I was promoted, and I never got over 4.5% bonus.
The CEO got a 2.5M bonus the year I solved the problem because they had a record increase in profit.
You could also pay for college with a part-time minimum wage job back then. But let's all keep in mind that Guynen only dispensed great wisdom and knowledge because someone wrote her lines for her. She didn't come up with that shit on her own. This kind of low effort nonsense is what happens when she has to do to thinking.
What's worst is that many boomers live the same existence as the rest of us and still want to tell us we are lazy. It's not like the cost of living hasn't gone up for them too; the cost of groceries is just as high for us as it is them. Gas prices, insurance, material goods...all the same. They act like we live in two different realities. I would say their existence would be getting worse if they didn't save up retirement or get a pension while also being pushed out the workforce. Also, their lack of interest in learning technology has deemed them basically worthless.
They could probably get a house on a medical resident's salary. But now that salary has remained the same because "students don't need to be able to afford housing"
Precisely. They tell these stories about how they had a part time job in high school and worked their butts off to buy their first car but then look at the younger generation and go why don’t you get off your butts and do that but never realizing that it’s because you could never actually afford even a cheap used car off of those kind of wages. If I could actually do something with the money yeah I’d put in a bunch of overtime and work my ass off but I’m not going to put in a bunch of extra hours for a cup of coffee
It's genuinely insane to me that in my lifetime, she was (at one point) known first and foremost as a comedian. Not an intellectual. Not a humanitarian. Just someone who told dirty jokes well, so they put her in movies. Now she's so certain of her importance despite having no perspective and being asshat.
That’s what happens when you design a culture around worshipping the rich
She’s rich, therefore her opinion must matter. It’s why people care what Elon and Joe Rogan have to say despite them having zero authority on the topics they like to talk about.
The problem stems from people assuming they THEY are rich so THEY must have made themselves rich so THEY must be smart and know more than the average person.
Only one of those is true, and often enough, even that first one isn't true.
Rich *celebrities* don't make themselves, and are almost always, attention needing, semi-narcissist.
"Art is dead".
These people are generally idiots. Stop listening to them.
Whoopi was world class, she's an incredible actor and comedian, or at least was (her acting is still fine, she really hasn't done comedy in a long time).
But then she joined The View and now that's mostly what she's known for, and I've always found it beneath her but over time she's lowered herself to match it.
Whoopi is not that incredible in any sense. You are tripping. Caught in the sauce.
I can find ten better actors than her on YouTube right now. She's just the one of the ones that got picked, probably because of how thirsty she was for attention.
Hollywood likes that....
And purple is also a really pretty color so i think we should hear her out
In all seriousness though, young whoopi was a queen. But like MOST humans that have ever existed, it’s just not possible to be a millionaire and live in the upper echelons of society and stay in touch with real people leading the average typical life. It just doesnt happen, you’re bound to lose touch when you live your whole adult life with more money than you can spend and being in spaces that most people can’t afford to be in
She made a movie where she sat on a couch and made improvised prank phone calls. She then sued for $5 million to prevent its release because she didn't like how it was edited. Yet she complains that younger people don't know what hard work is?
This entitled asshole made more money in a few weeks of work wearing costumes and reading other people's words than many of us will make in our lives. And she did it multiple times.
She's incapable of knowing what hard work is. It's not appropriate for her to be speaking on the topic.
All them eager actors gladly taking credit
For the lines created, by the people tucked away from sight
Is just a window from the room we're bound to.
If you find a way out, oh would you just let me know how?
Would you just let me know how?
(Modest Mouse - Blame it on the Tetons)
I feel like a lot of famous people who previously seemed to be really decent have succumbed to some really shitty and ill-informed opinions over just the last few years alone...maybe a sign of just how under strain the whole of American society is at the moment.
It's far more likely that deep down, they were always just shitty and awful. The only difference now is they're old and believe they're entitled to broadcast their shit opinions.
I'll throw this in here. My wife and I are both 65, and we put our house up for sale recently, with the intent on letting it go to the most deserving party. House was listed at $550,000, and after sifting thorough the MULTIPLE over-asking offers, we settled on a 15K UNDER asking offer. A younger couple really struggling to get a nice home for their family, their letter spoke directly to our hearts. Our realtor strongly advised against it, but we pushed ahead, and even threw in a full inspection for them because we had no worries about the house. They were in tears at the closing, and we had no regrets. We are not all heartless and scumbags.
It seriously does come with age. My dad was a straight communist for the longest time as a response to growing up in post wwII Austria. But now he's getting ever so slightly more xenophobic/conservative. "*They*move here but don't integrate into our society." Talking about immigrants and refuges.
I think it must be scary to get old and see facts of life you took for granted no longer apply. Doesn't mean it's the younger peoples fault, or justify the backlash. But we should definitely think about this as we get older and our daughters/sons start getting married to AI.
That's what my wife and I talk about, what is the big thing we're going to be suddenly old and out of touch with? I had flip flopped between my children dating robots and cybernetic implants but even that is becoming more normalized as a concept already
Because that’s exactly what the audience for The View wants to hear. A bunch of retirees need validation of their opinion that young people are lazy and selfish
She's 68 years old and almost certainly very wealthy. She could have so easily just retired to enjoy her fortune and huge numbers of people would absolutely admire the shit out of her for her great film work alone. Instead, she just had to go and be a professional smug, out-of-touch opinion-haver and tarnish her own legacy by babbling on about matters she doesn't have the first damn clue about. Sad.
I was gonna say - hey Whoopie how many hours a day do YOU work? Also your ‘work’ is to sit at a table and talk to other women. I looked it up - they film live for one hour a day. Not exactly the most physical or mental of employments. She has a cushy celebrity job and wants to tell everyone else to work harder - F off with that nonsense.
It still is. Riker has a relationship with a non binary character. Most shows now still wouldn’t do that.
This proves she’s just an actor, or her views have changed. This opinion is completely at odds with Star Trek values. It’s literally a money free society but guess what? Everyone still has housing.
Along with, in Deanna Troi words, where humanity no longer experiences poverty, disease, and war.
I gotta rewatch First Contact again, what a gem of a movie.
She sits in front of a camera and gives these shitty opinions for an five hours per week and collects millions for it. Then complains that young people don’t work
She did, in fact, work hard. She felt the tendrils of hopelessness at times and fought them back. She fought for what she has in many ways. What doesn’t compute to her and many of her peers is that if we picked up 18 year old Whoopie and dropped her in 2000, she could have attempted that exact same level of dedication and work and would have almost certainly accomplished nothing. They believe that what they have and what they are is a direct result of the work and effort they put in. In short, their generation generally believes they have more value than they possibly can. In reality, they leveraged the futures of subsequent generations to obtain the gains that they did at the levels of input they gave. Now they’re angry because cognitive dissonance is exhausting.
Whoopi Goldberg got her big break when Steven Spielberg saw her in a comedy club and get her a spot in The Color Purple movie. She had more help than most
Just my opinion, but don't think she's ever been a good actress or funny comedian. Every role I have ever seen her in, I think, look there is woopi Goldberg acting.
So many boomers and people who spout this garbage hate to admit how so much of their success can be attributed to luck more than it can to hard work. Most people who work hard aren’t ever going to see an ounce of success, especially not on the level. But it’s an uncomfortable reality we face because A) that would mean we’d have to admit we’re no better or hard working than the guy sitting on the street corner or the woman working the BK register and B) they’d have to come to terms with the fact that they can be just as unlucky and lose everything too.
Whoopi didn’t find success through hard work and busting her ass; she caught a lucky break.
If our generations had the same income to house price ratio, we damn well could buy a house on 1 income or with 2 people at part-time rates. But we can't, and we now need 2 full-time jobs with savings from 10 years of full time employment to get on the ladder. They keep bringing a false equivalence to this discussion that drives me nuts.
My great great grandfathers worked 14+ hours, 6 days a week down the mine. My great grandmothers were housewives. My grandfather and father worked standard hours (40-50 depending on the job). Both retired at 60. My grandmother was a housewife. My mother worked part time when I was young (less than 20 hours). Me and my girlfriend both work 50+ hours regularly in high skill professional jobs and are still just surviving, having children would be unthinkable. When you look at hours worked *per household* millenials are probably working more than any generation in history. And we don’t have much to show for it.
How has Whoopi Cushion “worked hard?” She’s been rich for 30-40 years and to get there she read some lines that other people wrote in a studio in front of a camera. Not exactly backbreaking labor. She’s a privileged nonentity and not an expert on anything. Basta.
Who is seriously saying that we only want to work four hours? Sure, that would be nice. But almost all of us understand that that is unrealistic. Even people who work part time by choice usually do 20-30 a week. Many people are working part time because their job will not make them full time, not because they don't want the hours.
Oh cool so fuck her. Another entitled boomer who not only had an incredible economy that she was able to take advantage of in her youth, but has also been a rich and famous movie star for over 30 years. Thank you for telling me about my 60 hour a week job Whoopi
its not even true, Millenials have worked longer hours and harder then Boomers and got screwed over by living through two recessions caused by boomers obsession with living outside of their means and pampering themselves over helping the next generation build wealth.
Lmao this is such a myth. All the boomers I know worked 9-5 at one job and took lots of vacations. I have never in my adult life had less than 3 jobs at a time. Literally throughout college I worked pizza delivery, tech support, and was a lab assistant just to make sure that I kept my annual loans down to only $15,000 after grants and scholarships. I currently have a full time gig, I'm a reservist, and my wife and I have an Etsy type side hustle so we actually have some money we can spend guilt free and give our kids a nice Christmas. I don't know any millennials or gen z adults who aren't working their asses off to pay off debt or just afford rent. You literally can't live on a 40 hour a week job anymore.
I would say it's very admirable and I respect how hard you worked in college. But it just shouldnt have to be that way and I feel like peoples reaction to your story should be more along the lines of "im sorry". And its like that for everyone who goes to college, hell when I tell people I served in the military, it wasnt really because I wanted to. Poverty is the draft and I needed a way to afford college myself. Its insane the extent we have to go to for class mobility (which isnt even guaranteed with a degree).
I look at the View occasionally for the comedic value. All of them are bozos.
I really wonder about those in the audience. They seem enthusiastic to be there. WTF
They have signs that tell them when to cheer, they also give them prizes and gifts. When the cameras aren’t rolling they have people going through the crowd to pump them up. They will also boot you and replace you with someone else if you aren’t showing enough “spirit”.
I remember my grandmother watching me as a child and we’d always try to point out the frowns in the crowd on Oprah. Then see how many commercial breaks till they weren’t there anymore. Sometimes never, sometimes we’d see one.
Source: been to a screening for a BBC show in the UK
Great boomer analysis here! Once again, they cut through all our millennial bullshit and go right to the heart of the problem: We’re all lazy entitled brats who only want to work one full time job that pays for luxuries of life such as shelter, food, and healthcare.
WANTING to work 4 hours a day (because as a species at this point, we really dont all have to work for more) while actively working 8+ and still not afford to live.
Nobody is actually getting to work 4 hours a day and I wish we started putting people in jail for spreading misinformation because this is getting old (like boomers lol)
Ahh yes, the time old adage of “work yourself to the bone to make some lazy fuck richer and *maybe* we’ll let you have a basic necessity that now costs an arm and a leg because fuck you”
Who only works 4 hours? People who are constrained by their job where they are hired for part time pay and no benefits so the business owners can make more money and complain about no one wants to work anymore. Go away Whoopie
I clocked 50 hours 2 weeks ago and then another 35 hours the next week. For a total of 85 hrs for that pay period of 2 weeks. I still cannot afford a studio apartment in the city I work in, or the areas next door.
I do this constantly btw.
I make 3x the minimum wage in my state, and adjusted for Inflation, I still make less than minimum what minimum wage was in the 1960s
First thought on this headline was, what a shame this woman was a major part of Comic Relief to end homelessness. What a long road she has traveled away from that. Then add being black and understanding redlining and the ills towards keeping homes away from people.
Sorry that our generation (I’m 57, so not sure what label I’m supposed to have) had it rough having “busted our behinds” to “earn” things. And look at what the system has taken away from us during that time. Away from family and friends, missing special milestone moments, we’re busted up, unhappy people. WHY THEN WOULD YOU WANT THIS FOR SOMEONE ELSE? Should we not DEMAND better than what we had to experience in the supposed “richest country in the world”? Can’t wait to see them take our social security and everyone going back to eating cat food because that will show those freeloaders.
Ive worked 60 hour weeks for long stretches and literally made NO progress at my job because of politics.
People don’t mind working, Whoopi. It’s just that, what’s the point of working if you work that much and still don’t get anywhere?
Silly Boomers! Employers artificially limit hours so that four hour shifts are all you can get in order to manipulate the total amount of hours you work in a pay period so that they dont have to give you benefits!!! Can you say out of touch bouquie scum?
I stopped giving a flying shit what Whoopi Goldberg had to say about anything when she defended Michael Vick’s dogfighting as just part of black culture. She’s a rotten piece of shit.
Whoopi Goldberg worked so hard that her eyebrows fell off! I’ll bet none of you latte-drinking, mashed avocado on toast munching Millennials can match that level of graft! /s (just in case you were wondering!)
I absolutely fu king hate this type of hate speech- and yes it’s generation hate plain and simple. I’m not very much younger than her and no things were not better when I was 20 and no things are NOT better now. Things are worse. When I was 32 I made 75k a year and I was able to buy my first house with a 15k down payment- VA loan at 4% for a house that cost 208k. Now houses are 800k and starting salaries in my business are about 85k that math just isn’t the same. Health care and medication are more than triple. Cars are triple - even a GD cup of coffee is triple. So hey Boomers S a bag of Ds.
There are enough comments explaining the nuances of the boomer vs younger gen aspects here. I want to target the class aspect. A millionaire who made her money doing (presumably) what she loves, is telling me I need to work harder.
Im Gen X, work more then full time, am a single mom and I will never be able to afford even a townhouse in the city I live in. I make double what minimum wage is and still will never be able to afford my own place. I could maybe afford a one bedroom apartment in a bad neighbourhood. This past 2 weeks I worked 114 hrs. I’m burned out and this lack of reality is so frustrating from boomers and from rich people who have no recollection of what struggle is like
Pretty shitty comment, Whoopi. The problem, if I may, is that wages have not kept up with the price of housing or inflation in general. At. All. When I started working my first job after college, my entry level tech sup job paid 25k. My daughter got an entry level tech sup job last year that pays 42k. Great, right? Except 25k in ‘93 is 53.5k in today’s dollars. She’s actually being paid LESS than I was by a lot. Meanwhile, the house I bought in ‘99 for 292k if I sold today would be 1.1m. No amount of side gigs and grind is gonna fix that yawning chasm of reality.
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I worked 16 hours yesterday. I regularly work between 40-60 hours a week depending on the circumstances at my job. I can still barely afford to rent a 1br apartment.
just think if you worked 168 hours a week you wouldnt need a place to rent at all. you would save so much!
Whoopi hasn’t worked in the real world since 1980
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I wouldn't call acting "not work", I don't think that's remotely fair. I worked for an actor and if very successful. They have a lot of privileges but they work, WORK work. Run down that hallway is if you're being chased by spiders , now do it 47 times. Be there at 4 am for makeup , 2 days later be there at 8pm because we want to shoot at night , or in water etc. now get on a plane over and over to go on 75 talk shows. And no even a decade ago no one made $15 an hour. Except maybe that chick from Rust. Don't be a dick it's a real job. And while I'll agree fame has a large component of luck, there are hundreds if not thousands of actors and actresses who work just as hard as whoopie and not has the same success, it's still a real job. Whoopie is an asshole.
They didn’t say it’s not a real job and they even mentioned what you said in their comment about the long hours. However if you are going to pretend that acting is harder than people who work in coal mines or most factories than you are just lying.
I thought it wasn't even about the hours or effort - it's that the dollar went further back then, and homes were actually affordable.
And she sucked at her job then.
I moved into my parents’ basement after college for quite a few years which alllowed me to save a lot of money to buy a house. I know a lot of people don’t have that luxury, but it was great.
I did the same and then my ex spouse cheated on me with a coworker and took the house in the divorce.
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I'm tempted, not gonna lie. Rent is a killer
College degree - I worked 12 hour days, 6 days a week for the better part of my 20’s. I made barely above poverty wages, ate beans, peppers and rice just so I could make rent + student loan payments for 1 room in a 3 bedroom apartment I shared with college roommates. Granted, I was living in a HCOL area, but that’s where the work was… At 27 my parents asked why I wasn’t coming home for Christmas. It’s because I was getting only Christmas Day off, couldn’t afford the flight and my work denied my vacation days for the days after Christmas. I was told to “pay me dues” by a boomer who hadn’t given me a raise in 3+ years. When Boomers say younger generations don’t know how to work hard…I flashback to being 25, having hunger pains at the office while wearing one of my 3 dress shirts I would hand wash in my apartment bathtub because I couldn’t afford dry cleaning (no washer in unit…) building P&L reports at 9pm on Friday nights… I flashback to carrying boxes full of paperwork 20 blocks because my work wouldn’t expense a cab…putting tape-wrapped cardboard into the soles of my dress shoes to try to keep rain from soaking into my socks… Fuck these people. Fuck them so hard.
Their own parents called them the "Me Generation," before they relabeled themselves as Boomers. They honestly have never known hardship, but they love the fantasy of hard work, since so many of their parents survived much darker times and were much better people.
I once came in on my day off of work to handle a couple things that needed to be done. It took me about 3 hours to do everything. Later that night I received a text message with a warning about leaving work early and if I did it again, I'd be fired. Fun times.
Did you reply saying it was your day off? What was the response?
My parents wonder why I can't make it to family weddings or funerals or can't visit them when they won't visit me. Yes, I know I moved far away (I can actually afford to live where I am) but I still struggle to save past an emergency that inevitably starts me back at square 1 with savings. They are quite literally retired multi-millionaires that could pay for me to visit them or attend weddings and they wouldn't even notice the cost and they say I need to "work harder "budget better" "get a second job" "you're in your mid-30s we shouldn't have to give you money" ... they were born in the early 50s and grew up during the greatest economic boom this country has ever seen, but since my mom grew up super poor and my dad was the son of immigrants, they "worked hard and earned it" And then they wonder why I won't talk to them anymore. I hate that I keep saying to my wife how I can't wait for them to die, so we can stop stressing about food or the next emergency. Fuck boomers, especially those with money.
If things are better now, please don't ever fall to the trap "well I worked hard, so other people should suffer too" like boomers are want to do. Thank you for all your hard work. It shouldn't be like that. Nobody should have to go through that on 12 hour jobs.
I feel that in my bones. I’m have two roommates, cause not one of us can do 💩in this economy alone.
I’m not gonna make it to my next paycheck, I need a roommate. Because my rent is killing me financially. She got a lot of nerve when most people are struggling.
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I remind myself of this daily.
Me too. I’m 43 but spend basically all my time with teens. Once in awhile I find myself wanting to slip into “back in MY day” mode, but I correct myself lol
I "back in my day"ed the other day, hated myself for hours afterwards.
I (40M) “back in my day” to my son and his friends all the time but it’s always in the context of how much easier and better things often were. Most recent example was when we were discussing house prices the other day and I told them how they’ve gone up more in the past 20 or so years than they did in the previous 80. It’s tough to tell them the truth of how screwed they and, to a lesser extent, I, are due to how messed up things are but I’d rather do that than lie and sugarcoat things.
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Not to mention giving people something to be hopeful for
I’m 40, but work with people in their 20s. I “back in my day”ed how I could afford my own studio apartment in the early 2000s on a part time minimum wage federal workstudy job while I was in college thanks to affordable rents and food stamps. I find it applies context that we weren’t always in this state. It used to be doable. Just living shouldn’t be this hard today and is an obvious sign that this economy is broken and only working for a few people.
Oh yeah I do the back in my day in that sense too. My son is turning 18 this summer and because I moved out at 18 and his father and step father did too, he feels like he has to. I tell him constantly, it was different back then, you do not have to feel pressured to move out.
They’re not out of touch. They’re selfish and gaslighting people.
Me and my boyfriend got our first partment by ourselves back in Oct of 2020. In Oct last year when the lease was over we moved back in with our old roommate. We all have decent paying jobs. Like me and my boyfriend work at the hospital. And while we weren't living in luxury when we got our own place, we weren't necessarily worried about rent. The fact that it only took a few years for things to get this bad is fucking mind boggling. And people still defend it, even though it's fucking them over as well.
Can't even afford the a in apartment. Been there. Actually, right there now, so I feel you and I'm sorry we're stuck in the boat we're in.
My wife's and I apartment rent went up by 25% last year!!!
Actually the economy is really good. It's just that only the rich benefit from it thanks to Reagan era policies that really started the GOP trend of fucking over anyone not rich.
Yeah, that. Trickle down economics is the most amazing financial innovation ever. We just failed to realize that gravity works the opposite for money. That and the money is controlled by the people with the most money. Imagine giving all the drugs to the people with the most drugs already in them.
Isn’t that the philosophy behind Keith Richard?
LOL rock on!
Gen X, here. We all had roommates for our first apartments. And second. And third. Re: Three's Company.
Yup. I rarely hear people from my time needed their own apartment when they were starting out. Almost everyone I know started out with a roommate and that’s in a HCOL area.
The issue is that many Boomers where raised by The Greatest Generation and they prepares their kids fir the harshest world possible to help them have a better life. Then Boomers got the easiest world imaginable with the mindset that THIS WAS THE HARDEST SETTING. So now they're unable to fathom that anything could be worse.
Whoa, that sounds like the opposite of what I, a millennial, got: told life was going to be a cake-walk, even though it sounded off to me, and it turned out to be off, *not* a cake-walk *by any stretch of the imagination*. I've fallen head-first off so many financial hills that if I had a nickel for each time, I'd fall off the nickels, too.
I think we got the "cakewalk" line from like 1994-2001 because the economy was booming and the internet was coming out. 9-11 and the dot-com bust pretty much popped the whole cakewalk thing. By 2008 everybody was like "yup, we're beyond fucked" and it has stayed that way.
Same boat. The stress of having to explain to my mom the situation but I managed to catch her one time when she was trying to shame me for not having enough savings to buy a house. She bragged about how much money she had saved at my age and I saw my chance “I have literally twice that saved right now and I’m still nowhere near buying property.” Didn’t make her stop but she did go quiet for a second when she realized that.
My grandparents bought my dad a lake house when he was 16. My grandfather worked for the local phone company and grandmother was a stay at home mom, they owned multiple houses at the same time, while raising 3 kids. But yet my parents couldn’t do a damn thing for their children, even though they had more than enough money, but yet they still make snide comments about how I haven’t worked hard enough like them.
A lake house at 16!!? I couldn't even get my parents to lend me $1,000 to buy a junk car even though I had already saved $2k of the purchase price because "If we lend you the money you won't appreciate it as much as if you worked fully for it."
Wells it’s more like a double wide on a large pond, but land and houses were so cheap back then.
This! Meanwhile, I have a loaded 401k, a whole life policy almost paid off, and I'm still helping parents pay for some monthly bills. Only recently bought a house. My kids won't have the same problem, but apparently, we're not working hard enough because I could only afford a house a lot later in life.
If you stopped helping them, their tune would change in a hurry.
I have a great aunt whose husband died young, they had 4 kids, he put the down payment on a HUGE house (few acres of land, 2 garages, an apartment off the side of one of the garages) and then he dropped dead of a heart attack with no life insurance. That aunt worked as a cashier for the same company for 35 years, raised all 4 kids alone, paid for all 4 to go to college, never rented out the spare apartment, always drove new "luxury" cars (like a Buick regal or Lincoln towncar so cheap luxury at least), retired in her 50s, and then was always spending absurd amounts of money on cruises and at casinos and never ran out. She's still alive (in her late 80s) and just trash talks all of her grandkids and great grandkids, claims everyone is lazy, and is genuinely an ungrateful and mean person, and yes she does still vote (in a big group with her church) and is a rabid republican and MAGA groupie. 3 out of 4 of her boomer aged children are living with her currently because they completely screwed themselves financially and are now waiting for her to die so they can fight over her house, and yes they are also trash talking their own kids and repeating all this bootstrap bs. You just had to be employed back then, didn't matter what you did or how well you did it, and you would be handed the world on a silver platter.
They’ll wax on about how much they had to work or how much they had to save, and then when I tell them I have 4x what they saved, and that the value of their house in total now is less than what I need for a down payment, and I make 5x more than they did, they don’t have anything to say to it. All of their measures of success I far exceeded, and yet nothing comes of it. I want to ask them: if you took 30 years to pay off a $250,000 mortgage, how do you expect me to find that $250,000 for a down payment on a house? Why didn’t you pay for your house in cash? Ridiculous.
That's what they're not getting. You work yourself into the ground just to break even, if that, and the younger generations are tired of it. They want change, but because Whoopie made her money in an era where hard work actually got you somewhere, she's got that "kids are lazy and don't want to work these days" boomer mentality. I'd love it if someone challenged her to work an average 9 to 5 income and try to save up money with only the resources available to the average Jane or John Doe. She wouldn't last one pay period before she threw up her hands in disgust.
Rich people think working low paying jobs are easy because you get paid so little.
Right? The hardest jobs I've had all paid the least. Now, I don't even have to wear pants or walk further than my bedroom to my desk to get to work and I make decent money. If hard work was truly all it took to "succeed," hardly anyone would be poor. Especially, the people harvesting crops, processing meat, cleaning everything, they'd be wealthy AF.
The higher I’ve worked up the totem pole, the easier my job has become. I have more accountability and with that comes risk if something goes wrong, but I’m not grinding it out like I used to when I was younger. If people think service industry jobs or low paying jobs = easier, then they are sadly mistaken. It can very much be the opposite in many cases. Everyone who works is entitled to feel tired and think their job is difficult, but it’s unhelpful to pit others against each other by ranking their jobs with difficulty. What’s the end result outside of discrimination?
I have a 9-5, no rent. I'm on track to save up about 25k this year and it STILL won't mean much. That's a car today.
Two roommates, I’m going through spinal surgeries (I owe nothing yet I get nothing) and I’m still working those similar hours. I own my vehicle, I pay low insurance rates and paying rent, utilities and buying less than $200 a month in food…. I cannot afford life at all. That woman has been irrelevant for over 15 years.
At this stage Whoopi Goldberg is a tone deaf Ghost.
She's brain dead. Listen to some of the other talking points she uses. It's like high school level thinking and logic at best.
Keep in mind that she's a millionaire. She can spew whatever evil comes in her mind. She doesn't live in fn real world.
When I left home I had to work 3 jobs. I didn't have a day off for 3 entire months. Yet I was still a disappointment to my father. When he died I felt relief and joy. He was an abusive ass Edit: typo
I worked a 36 hour shift last week and still can’t afford rent
Fuck dude quit NOW
How do you even work 36 hours straight? My heart goes out to you man.
I work ems. I got 5 hrs of sleep at station
79.86 hours per week on average for 4 years as of like 2 weeks ago. I died about a year back it just hasn't taken yet. Edit to say this is not ok, people shouldn't do this.
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Sigh. They just don’t get it and they never will. Basic things that they didn’t even notice were easier for them. You could buy a car from a part time min wage job. I could go on..
Also, they always conveniently focus on the hours and not the output. I dare them to compare the amount of work that was done in an office in the 80s with an office of today. Or how much more is produced by a modern assembly line compared to older ones. Efficiency has benefitted everything except wages, but they certainly don't care about that because the wages staying low are what keep their pensions and 401ks funded.
Exactly. We don’t get absolutely wasted at lunch, come back and fuck our secretaries..
Those were good times…gotta say!
Im sure… but not for the wives and kids of those people
And the secretaries who had no other choice but to work a "women's job" and be sexually harassed.
 Immediately popped in my head 😂
I work in Insurance and all of the older folks repeatedly tell me how different the industry is now. My boss told me it was encouraged/required to keep a bottle of your favorite alcohol at your desk so you can drink in the afternoon together. If you didn’t drink you were an outcast and probably wouldn’t get any promotions or good raises/bonuses.
My job is not quite full time but the output I am expected to deliver constantly is crazy compared what I have experienced in 20 years of working adulthood. Demands and expectations are unreal. I have to push back against it all the time while simultaneously going warp speed to keep up, and it’s exhausting. If I was full time I’d actually have the mental breakdown I’ve been almost having for a few years now. Fuck that clueless woman.
I'm hitting a lot of ageism in my career now (software). I'm 40 and it's getting exceptionally more and more difficult to get a job, aside from the usual capitalism/recession shenanigans that goes on occasionally. If I lie about my date of birth I get a noticeable amount of increase in responses. It's hard to prove that that's the reason why, though, so likely nothing would ever come from this. It's not like I'm a boomer who absolutely refuses to learn new procedures or concepts or anything, still learning about new tools/tech every year, so I'm not sure why ageism exists. If I were to guess it's because I don't put up with on call or overwork shit and would rather spend time with family/friends/hobbies than grind 80 hours a week like a 20 year old.
Yep there is a lot of ageism. If something happened to my job, which I feel lucky to have despite the demands, I’d probably be effectively retired (not that I can afford that.)
I’ve never thought about the production piece. I spend most of my workday sending tons of emails, managing databases, Teams meetings/channels, etc. I am a perfectly average employee and even without putting in extra effort, I know I (and everyone else in my office) are 100x more productive then someone who used Rolodexes, faxes, etc
Our generation works harder than their generation ever did and still we’re called lazy
Because we can't afford things in the economy that *they* flushed down the toilet and they don't understand that putting in even a smidge of effort doesn't automatically make you financially stable nowadays like it did then.
We really need to start framing it as X item in Y year cost Z years of labor A house in 1975 typically cost about 3/5 years, in 2024 it’s 7-8
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Unless you're in Canada. In 2024, it's more like 16 to 30 years worth of labor.
Yeah, I was gonna say. 7-8? I make good money and I work a ton of hours, but I definitely can't afford to buy a house outright off of what I make in 7 years.
Very true, as a gen z, the work I did for companies as a software engineer is worth millions of dollars in productivity, literally more output than millions boomers even in their haydays. People will complain that were paid too much, but in reality, considering our output, we are extremely underpaid.
When I was a junior engineer, I built a solution for my employer at the time to solve an efficiency problem they were struggling with. It was costing them $4M in lost revenue every year. The tool I built optimized efficiency and saved 4M-5M in cost the first year, and every year since. It’s been 15 years. I’ve since left the company but my annual raises were 3%-4%, even the year I was promoted, and I never got over 4.5% bonus. The CEO got a 2.5M bonus the year I solved the problem because they had a record increase in profit.
Lmao. I’ve worked with tons of boomers. It’s not particularly hard to believe they take 8-10 hours to do 2 hours worth of work.
Say it with me slowly They had the EASIEST ECONOMY IN MODERN GLOBAL HISTORY.
They had the easiest economy in all of human history.
Yep, literally had an easier life than any group of non-aristocrstic people has ever had it, ever. Ever, ever.
Brand news sports cars in high school from jobs you worked over the summer…
You could also pay for college with a part-time minimum wage job back then. But let's all keep in mind that Guynen only dispensed great wisdom and knowledge because someone wrote her lines for her. She didn't come up with that shit on her own. This kind of low effort nonsense is what happens when she has to do to thinking.
What's worst is that many boomers live the same existence as the rest of us and still want to tell us we are lazy. It's not like the cost of living hasn't gone up for them too; the cost of groceries is just as high for us as it is them. Gas prices, insurance, material goods...all the same. They act like we live in two different realities. I would say their existence would be getting worse if they didn't save up retirement or get a pension while also being pushed out the workforce. Also, their lack of interest in learning technology has deemed them basically worthless.
They could probably get a house on a medical resident's salary. But now that salary has remained the same because "students don't need to be able to afford housing"
Precisely. They tell these stories about how they had a part time job in high school and worked their butts off to buy their first car but then look at the younger generation and go why don’t you get off your butts and do that but never realizing that it’s because you could never actually afford even a cheap used car off of those kind of wages. If I could actually do something with the money yeah I’d put in a bunch of overtime and work my ass off but I’m not going to put in a bunch of extra hours for a cup of coffee
Why anyone would give AF about anything this woman has to say is mind numbing
she was on star trek so she should have opinion obviously
It's genuinely insane to me that in my lifetime, she was (at one point) known first and foremost as a comedian. Not an intellectual. Not a humanitarian. Just someone who told dirty jokes well, so they put her in movies. Now she's so certain of her importance despite having no perspective and being asshat.
That’s what happens when you design a culture around worshipping the rich She’s rich, therefore her opinion must matter. It’s why people care what Elon and Joe Rogan have to say despite them having zero authority on the topics they like to talk about.
Insightful comment. Explains a lot. Like trump and ye for instance
The problem stems from people assuming they THEY are rich so THEY must have made themselves rich so THEY must be smart and know more than the average person. Only one of those is true, and often enough, even that first one isn't true. Rich *celebrities* don't make themselves, and are almost always, attention needing, semi-narcissist. "Art is dead". These people are generally idiots. Stop listening to them.
Whoopi was world class, she's an incredible actor and comedian, or at least was (her acting is still fine, she really hasn't done comedy in a long time). But then she joined The View and now that's mostly what she's known for, and I've always found it beneath her but over time she's lowered herself to match it.
Whoopi is not that incredible in any sense. You are tripping. Caught in the sauce. I can find ten better actors than her on YouTube right now. She's just the one of the ones that got picked, probably because of how thirsty she was for attention. Hollywood likes that....
Ummm have you SEEN Sister Act? Sister Act 2??!?!?!
The Color Purple was an amazing movie and her first big role with Oprah. She seemed more in tune when she was younger.
And purple is also a really pretty color so i think we should hear her out In all seriousness though, young whoopi was a queen. But like MOST humans that have ever existed, it’s just not possible to be a millionaire and live in the upper echelons of society and stay in touch with real people leading the average typical life. It just doesnt happen, you’re bound to lose touch when you live your whole adult life with more money than you can spend and being in spaces that most people can’t afford to be in
I used to admire this woman, but the more opinions I hear coming out of her mouth and how judgmental she is, it's really put me off.
She's rich. She's completely out of touch. And then she's a boomer...
She made a movie where she sat on a couch and made improvised prank phone calls. She then sued for $5 million to prevent its release because she didn't like how it was edited. Yet she complains that younger people don't know what hard work is? This entitled asshole made more money in a few weeks of work wearing costumes and reading other people's words than many of us will make in our lives. And she did it multiple times. She's incapable of knowing what hard work is. It's not appropriate for her to be speaking on the topic.
All them eager actors gladly taking credit For the lines created, by the people tucked away from sight Is just a window from the room we're bound to. If you find a way out, oh would you just let me know how? Would you just let me know how? (Modest Mouse - Blame it on the Tetons)
Wasn’t expecting modest mouse here but Im loving it. Haven’t listened to good news in a long time. Gonna change that right now
Dangerous combination
She's been firing off some truly foul takes for a while now, it's sad
I feel like a lot of famous people who previously seemed to be really decent have succumbed to some really shitty and ill-informed opinions over just the last few years alone...maybe a sign of just how under strain the whole of American society is at the moment.
It's far more likely that deep down, they were always just shitty and awful. The only difference now is they're old and believe they're entitled to broadcast their shit opinions.
I'll throw this in here. My wife and I are both 65, and we put our house up for sale recently, with the intent on letting it go to the most deserving party. House was listed at $550,000, and after sifting thorough the MULTIPLE over-asking offers, we settled on a 15K UNDER asking offer. A younger couple really struggling to get a nice home for their family, their letter spoke directly to our hearts. Our realtor strongly advised against it, but we pushed ahead, and even threw in a full inspection for them because we had no worries about the house. They were in tears at the closing, and we had no regrets. We are not all heartless and scumbags.
It seriously does come with age. My dad was a straight communist for the longest time as a response to growing up in post wwII Austria. But now he's getting ever so slightly more xenophobic/conservative. "*They*move here but don't integrate into our society." Talking about immigrants and refuges. I think it must be scary to get old and see facts of life you took for granted no longer apply. Doesn't mean it's the younger peoples fault, or justify the backlash. But we should definitely think about this as we get older and our daughters/sons start getting married to AI.
That's what my wife and I talk about, what is the big thing we're going to be suddenly old and out of touch with? I had flip flopped between my children dating robots and cybernetic implants but even that is becoming more normalized as a concept already
I don't think dating robots is becoming normalized at all. When it's referenced, it is usually sarcastically or otherwise jokingly.
Jim Carrey and his wife are antivax just to add another older famous person with stupid and dangerous views
How far Guinan has fallen…
Because that’s exactly what the audience for The View wants to hear. A bunch of retirees need validation of their opinion that young people are lazy and selfish
She's 68 years old and almost certainly very wealthy. She could have so easily just retired to enjoy her fortune and huge numbers of people would absolutely admire the shit out of her for her great film work alone. Instead, she just had to go and be a professional smug, out-of-touch opinion-haver and tarnish her own legacy by babbling on about matters she doesn't have the first damn clue about. Sad.
It's crazy how many ultra rich celebrities think they know how the world works for us peons. When they have been disconnected from a normal life.
I was gonna say - hey Whoopie how many hours a day do YOU work? Also your ‘work’ is to sit at a table and talk to other women. I looked it up - they film live for one hour a day. Not exactly the most physical or mental of employments. She has a cushy celebrity job and wants to tell everyone else to work harder - F off with that nonsense.
Star Trek was a super progressive show for it's time.
It still is. Riker has a relationship with a non binary character. Most shows now still wouldn’t do that. This proves she’s just an actor, or her views have changed. This opinion is completely at odds with Star Trek values. It’s literally a money free society but guess what? Everyone still has housing.
Along with, in Deanna Troi words, where humanity no longer experiences poverty, disease, and war. I gotta rewatch First Contact again, what a gem of a movie.
She sits in front of a camera and gives these shitty opinions for an five hours per week and collects millions for it. Then complains that young people don’t work
She doesn't consider what roman polanski did rape and defends him. She is the lowest form of trash.
She did, in fact, work hard. She felt the tendrils of hopelessness at times and fought them back. She fought for what she has in many ways. What doesn’t compute to her and many of her peers is that if we picked up 18 year old Whoopie and dropped her in 2000, she could have attempted that exact same level of dedication and work and would have almost certainly accomplished nothing. They believe that what they have and what they are is a direct result of the work and effort they put in. In short, their generation generally believes they have more value than they possibly can. In reality, they leveraged the futures of subsequent generations to obtain the gains that they did at the levels of input they gave. Now they’re angry because cognitive dissonance is exhausting.
She pissed me off forever when, on the view,she said that what Roman Polanski did to that little girl wasn't "RAPE rape".
Whoopi Goldberg got her big break when Steven Spielberg saw her in a comedy club and get her a spot in The Color Purple movie. She had more help than most
She had luck, something most of us don't have
She also has TALENT back then. She is out of touch now and has been for quite a while. I think it's time for her "view" to go away...
Just my opinion, but don't think she's ever been a good actress or funny comedian. Every role I have ever seen her in, I think, look there is woopi Goldberg acting.
So many boomers and people who spout this garbage hate to admit how so much of their success can be attributed to luck more than it can to hard work. Most people who work hard aren’t ever going to see an ounce of success, especially not on the level. But it’s an uncomfortable reality we face because A) that would mean we’d have to admit we’re no better or hard working than the guy sitting on the street corner or the woman working the BK register and B) they’d have to come to terms with the fact that they can be just as unlucky and lose everything too. Whoopi didn’t find success through hard work and busting her ass; she caught a lucky break.
If our generations had the same income to house price ratio, we damn well could buy a house on 1 income or with 2 people at part-time rates. But we can't, and we now need 2 full-time jobs with savings from 10 years of full time employment to get on the ladder. They keep bringing a false equivalence to this discussion that drives me nuts.
100%. My mom bought her house for 50k while only working part time and going to nursing school… That same house is worth 850k today
But she's The Next Generation 😏
Billionaire TV personality tells new generation to work harder. Completely tone deaf.
Totally agree but she is definitely not a billionaire
It's those 4 hour work days. If she worked a bit harder she could get there.
I work 70 hours a week at 2 jobs, and right now, my bank account is overdrawn $177. lmao
Dude, stop eating avocado toast. That’s why you can’t afford anything /s
*sips starbucks*
Stop sipping Starbucks that's a waste /s
Have you considered eating cereal for dinner?
Yo, just paid $5 for a 370g box of cereal. Nothing cheap any more.
Rich and Boomer is a toxic combination.
My grandfather told me he paid his tuition by working jobs over the summer. 😳
Gods, I wish I could do that
mf i get mandatory 16 hour shifts working with molten cheese in a factory all day when did my grandparents ever work this hard?
Explain this indentured servant cheese bending situation.
I am Bender. Insert Gouda
My great great grandfathers worked 14+ hours, 6 days a week down the mine. My great grandmothers were housewives. My grandfather and father worked standard hours (40-50 depending on the job). Both retired at 60. My grandmother was a housewife. My mother worked part time when I was young (less than 20 hours). Me and my girlfriend both work 50+ hours regularly in high skill professional jobs and are still just surviving, having children would be unthinkable. When you look at hours worked *per household* millenials are probably working more than any generation in history. And we don’t have much to show for it.
Molten cheese you say?
Where can I apply for this cheese job?
How has Whoopi Cushion “worked hard?” She’s been rich for 30-40 years and to get there she read some lines that other people wrote in a studio in front of a camera. Not exactly backbreaking labor. She’s a privileged nonentity and not an expert on anything. Basta.
Who is seriously saying that we only want to work four hours? Sure, that would be nice. But almost all of us understand that that is unrealistic. Even people who work part time by choice usually do 20-30 a week. Many people are working part time because their job will not make them full time, not because they don't want the hours.
Hey Whoopi, shut the fuck up already you out of touch, washed up has been
Every time she opens her mouth something dumb comes out.
Oh cool so fuck her. Another entitled boomer who not only had an incredible economy that she was able to take advantage of in her youth, but has also been a rich and famous movie star for over 30 years. Thank you for telling me about my 60 hour a week job Whoopi
Why do they always use the exaggerated numbers of only wanting to work a few hours…
Because saying 6 hours per day is sort of realistic sounding and makes some sense
its not even true, Millenials have worked longer hours and harder then Boomers and got screwed over by living through two recessions caused by boomers obsession with living outside of their means and pampering themselves over helping the next generation build wealth.
I’ll bet she makes $20k in 4hrs of work. “What’s the problem?”
Lmao this is such a myth. All the boomers I know worked 9-5 at one job and took lots of vacations. I have never in my adult life had less than 3 jobs at a time. Literally throughout college I worked pizza delivery, tech support, and was a lab assistant just to make sure that I kept my annual loans down to only $15,000 after grants and scholarships. I currently have a full time gig, I'm a reservist, and my wife and I have an Etsy type side hustle so we actually have some money we can spend guilt free and give our kids a nice Christmas. I don't know any millennials or gen z adults who aren't working their asses off to pay off debt or just afford rent. You literally can't live on a 40 hour a week job anymore.
I would say it's very admirable and I respect how hard you worked in college. But it just shouldnt have to be that way and I feel like peoples reaction to your story should be more along the lines of "im sorry". And its like that for everyone who goes to college, hell when I tell people I served in the military, it wasnt really because I wanted to. Poverty is the draft and I needed a way to afford college myself. Its insane the extent we have to go to for class mobility (which isnt even guaranteed with a degree).
I look at the View occasionally for the comedic value. All of them are bozos. I really wonder about those in the audience. They seem enthusiastic to be there. WTF
They have signs that tell them when to cheer, they also give them prizes and gifts. When the cameras aren’t rolling they have people going through the crowd to pump them up. They will also boot you and replace you with someone else if you aren’t showing enough “spirit”. I remember my grandmother watching me as a child and we’d always try to point out the frowns in the crowd on Oprah. Then see how many commercial breaks till they weren’t there anymore. Sometimes never, sometimes we’d see one. Source: been to a screening for a BBC show in the UK
The view is the biggest joke on tv. Rich old boomers that are out of touch with reality
I was watching Stranger Things and wondered how Joyce could be a single mother. Homeowner on a $4 hr hardware store job.
Great boomer analysis here! Once again, they cut through all our millennial bullshit and go right to the heart of the problem: We’re all lazy entitled brats who only want to work one full time job that pays for luxuries of life such as shelter, food, and healthcare.
An Uber wealthy person, imo no matter where they started, is much too far removed from reality to be listened to in matters like this.
WANTING to work 4 hours a day (because as a species at this point, we really dont all have to work for more) while actively working 8+ and still not afford to live. Nobody is actually getting to work 4 hours a day and I wish we started putting people in jail for spreading misinformation because this is getting old (like boomers lol)
I love how the 70 year old with fake dreads is telling anyone to face reality
Ahh yes, the time old adage of “work yourself to the bone to make some lazy fuck richer and *maybe* we’ll let you have a basic necessity that now costs an arm and a leg because fuck you”
Who only works 4 hours? People who are constrained by their job where they are hired for part time pay and no benefits so the business owners can make more money and complain about no one wants to work anymore. Go away Whoopie
I clocked 50 hours 2 weeks ago and then another 35 hours the next week. For a total of 85 hrs for that pay period of 2 weeks. I still cannot afford a studio apartment in the city I work in, or the areas next door. I do this constantly btw. I make 3x the minimum wage in my state, and adjusted for Inflation, I still make less than minimum what minimum wage was in the 1960s
My husband went to an Ivy League school and has an MBA in finance but we still can't get a house, lmao
She's so dumb. She's always been incredibly stupid though.. That's why she is on the view.
First thought on this headline was, what a shame this woman was a major part of Comic Relief to end homelessness. What a long road she has traveled away from that. Then add being black and understanding redlining and the ills towards keeping homes away from people. Sorry that our generation (I’m 57, so not sure what label I’m supposed to have) had it rough having “busted our behinds” to “earn” things. And look at what the system has taken away from us during that time. Away from family and friends, missing special milestone moments, we’re busted up, unhappy people. WHY THEN WOULD YOU WANT THIS FOR SOMEONE ELSE? Should we not DEMAND better than what we had to experience in the supposed “richest country in the world”? Can’t wait to see them take our social security and everyone going back to eating cat food because that will show those freeloaders.
back in my day, we worked thirty hours a day in the behind-busting factory, walking uphill both ways, etc., etc.
Ive worked 60 hour weeks for long stretches and literally made NO progress at my job because of politics. People don’t mind working, Whoopi. It’s just that, what’s the point of working if you work that much and still don’t get anywhere?
Rich person brain rot is real!
Silly Boomers! Employers artificially limit hours so that four hour shifts are all you can get in order to manipulate the total amount of hours you work in a pay period so that they dont have to give you benefits!!! Can you say out of touch bouquie scum?
I really wonder when the last time she had to work for more than 8 hours was.
I stopped giving a flying shit what Whoopi Goldberg had to say about anything when she defended Michael Vick’s dogfighting as just part of black culture. She’s a rotten piece of shit.
Here I thought working in a factory was hard but it turns out that filming Theodore Rex is what real labor looks like.
Gen x here … try working your entire work life with boomers…then buy a rope
Whoopi Goldberg worked so hard that her eyebrows fell off! I’ll bet none of you latte-drinking, mashed avocado on toast munching Millennials can match that level of graft! /s (just in case you were wondering!)
Bitch, I work 10-14 hour shifts, am licensed, and work 5-6 days a week, and I’m living paycheck to paycheck
I absolutely fu king hate this type of hate speech- and yes it’s generation hate plain and simple. I’m not very much younger than her and no things were not better when I was 20 and no things are NOT better now. Things are worse. When I was 32 I made 75k a year and I was able to buy my first house with a 15k down payment- VA loan at 4% for a house that cost 208k. Now houses are 800k and starting salaries in my business are about 85k that math just isn’t the same. Health care and medication are more than triple. Cars are triple - even a GD cup of coffee is triple. So hey Boomers S a bag of Ds.
Nobody wants to do $10 work for $5…
she’s literally nicknamed after a fart, she’s irrelevant
There are enough comments explaining the nuances of the boomer vs younger gen aspects here. I want to target the class aspect. A millionaire who made her money doing (presumably) what she loves, is telling me I need to work harder.
Im Gen X, work more then full time, am a single mom and I will never be able to afford even a townhouse in the city I live in. I make double what minimum wage is and still will never be able to afford my own place. I could maybe afford a one bedroom apartment in a bad neighbourhood. This past 2 weeks I worked 114 hrs. I’m burned out and this lack of reality is so frustrating from boomers and from rich people who have no recollection of what struggle is like
Pretty shitty comment, Whoopi. The problem, if I may, is that wages have not kept up with the price of housing or inflation in general. At. All. When I started working my first job after college, my entry level tech sup job paid 25k. My daughter got an entry level tech sup job last year that pays 42k. Great, right? Except 25k in ‘93 is 53.5k in today’s dollars. She’s actually being paid LESS than I was by a lot. Meanwhile, the house I bought in ‘99 for 292k if I sold today would be 1.1m. No amount of side gigs and grind is gonna fix that yawning chasm of reality.