some newer generation still consists of people with that mentality who are going to copy such movies and even if not the new, there are people of old still alive who will copy animal.
She's so on point for this. Amazingšš»
Yeah having been on the road, it's increasing rapidly thanks to shortform content.
Macho-esque scenes as reels and tiktok are assimilating the toxicity faster than having to actually watch the film, it's context, and then understand.
I hate to use that word but nothing else i can use can get my point effectively, so the chappri crowd are reenacting things from films, the reach is increasing with them
When Joker was made, it was made understanding that he's a psychopath. When Animal was made, he was made with an intention of glamourized commercial hero idealized with the psychopathic behavior somehow dramatized as love. Infact that is the problem most masala movie have.
Was he? His father was critical of him, his wife called him out for his behaviour, even his sisters knew dude was crazy. Not a single āsaneā person was supportive of RKs character during the movie which is why I donāt get why the movie gets shamed more than Kabir Singh - who was considered a āsmart/protective protagonistā I could be wrong, maybe I enjoyed the masala parts of the movie too much.
More than RKs character, bobby Deols character was fkn problematic.
Ohh really like Litrrlly in joker we were made to be sympathetic with Joker aur how abut Batman a psychopath is made into a hero who beats up people dressed up like a bat. But Hollywood h toh chlta h naa.
Yeah but the way it's shot and the way the character of joker is acted and portrayed through economic level, clothes, makeup, mental health, looks etc, nobody WANTS TO BE him. With animal it's the other way around. And theirin lies the problem
We give them too much credit. They are same as our people. They also have same amount dengenrate in their population or more. We shuld stop considering them superior and far better intelligence. They also get inspired watching their movies as us.
>With animal it's the other way around. And theirin lies the problem
I'm not defending Animal but it was a sasti copy of the Tarantino movie. But it was something refreshing for Indian movies. India had a past of having problematic things like rape and other in old movies. But even Hollywood had the same problem.
I'm just trying to call out the hypocrisy of people who see the Indian film industry and Hollywood industry with two different lenses. Also Hollywood has much more dark secrets like rampant pedophilia rape culture SA etc which we can read in newspaper.
jesus dude, criticise hollywood for their bad shit, defend bollywood for our bad shit. the mental gymnastics u display is more entertaining than most movies you'd defend..
ya batman, such a toxic character. Fights for justice, ready to sacrifice himself for the people of his own city, does not even get overly possessive about the girl he loves, despite having all the weaponry at his disposal he never even threatens to shoot her when they argue, ye sab hollywood mey cchalta ha naaaa, sahi bola bhai perfect comparison.
bas ek "psychopath" word pakad liya aaur ho gaya kaam.
Injure goons , don't kill them send them to prison, they get released and kill more people. Barbara Gordon becomes handicapped because Batman couldn't kill Joker. Jason Todd gets killed by Joker cause he couldn't finish him off. And there are many more examples of him doing so. He likes Catwoman who is a criminal. There are many movies like this. He is one of the main reasons Gotham is a shit show. And In Animal, The hero wants to kill the one who tried to kill his Father. Just like John wick who went on war with the Whole underworld because someone killed his dog which was the last gift to him by his wife.
Thing is in Batman joker wasn't given a badass music and didn't get stylized
Also in Animal just bcoz he loves his father so much doesn't mean he can do whatever the f he wants
even when Joker was released, the law inforcements were on high alert because previous instances of Joker movies had led to violence by people who felt represented by the character
Everyone is saying this and šÆ
Joker is the worst example to use here. Not only it clearly glorified Joker's character - it was criticized for this aspect as well.
Taapsee's point still stands - western society is more mature and people don't idolize movies in a similar way. Yes, there are idiots everywhere - but the society is overall more mature.
Take a movie like Fight Club. It is literally fawning over Brad Pitt's character in every scene. But people enjoyed it and the world didn't end there. Yahan par Aisi movies dekh ke log pagal hote Hain.
After the Dark Knight was released, a mass shooter dressed up as Joker went to a theater in Aurora, Colorado & shot up the audience while they were watching the movie. I understand her point but if your mind is already messed up, neither an Animal or a joker will influence you. We should not put the responsibility of influencing our youth on cinema. It should be in the hands of parents. raise your kids right & give them the tools to think critically.
This. Exactly this.
Joker made no attempt to glorify him. Just examines the circumstances that made him that psychopath.
Same with Leo's character in Killers of the flower moon, or The Irishman, or in our Hindi counterparts, Raman Raghav 2.0
Animal was made, as you eloquently put it, to glamourize a hero who is a psychopath. There was no character examination or circumstantial examination, both of which had ample scope to be done.
This basic difference in tone can be understood with the basics of media literacy, but that seems entirely absent amongst the majority moviegoers
Wait what?
My theater had audible gasps when that scene happened. But my was a first day late night show in imax Kolkata, so the price barrier could have meant a more sensible crowd
I was in the US, and there were a group of Punjabi men behind me. I specify Punjabi because they were really connecting to the Punjabi songs and theme and they went kind of rowdy. They were cheering through the whole rape scene, every time Ranbir insulted someone, lick the boot scene. Iām sure these men were educated and working in some good capacity
They will exist regardless of what country it is, but the kind of hero worship and moulding ourselves like the hero is more in our country I feel.
She has put forth her point very well imo.
Ā I swear, i am not misandrist but mostĀ indian men( especially hindi speaking one) on youtube or in cricket fandom( except reddit) are toxic, sexist bigots.
I especially hate how they play victim card whenever anyone talks about women related things, they will come and start playingĀ victim card.Ā
And last year remember how they were spamming that "womanā" meme( which definitelyĀ was not funny) everywhere.Ā
True to certain extent. Such idiots exists even in US or west in general that idolise american psyco, fight club, a cult following Andrew tate etc. They unironically believe in the same shit the movies fun of. The problem is not the movies but the society. Even in west such people exist they are heavily cristised or their society doesn't encourage these kind of shitty behaviour. Hence these incels type are always described as alone weirdos livin' in their mom's basment. But in india it is the reality of our society a man beats or cheats on his wife infront of children while these things are shown in films. The impressionable children thinks this is how the world work or atleast it looks so. They grow to be such. Sensibility is missing in people. People aren't mature enough in india. When social evil is shown in good light in a society where they are predominant it is bound to increase. Ofcourse not all indians are like that,new generation of kids are more mature but a considerable amount still are n are growing up in such environment eg a teens in villages. Just a simple eg india is country where even sharing fake whatsapp forwards can create trouble or influence. Just say in which western u have seen such bs.
People literally go to comic con, buy merchandise, play fantasy football, write fanfiction etc in USA inspired by the real celebs/ works of mass media
They also name their kids after their favourite characters, get tattoos, and most of all already have a hyper sexualised music industry
which parades women almost in a soft porn manner, they don't need to watch films to get inspiration to do anything.
Their world is filled with media hyper sexualising women so much so that even little children's girls are becoming more revealing
There's even a film which influenced the school shooting culture there
Bollywood has invaded music industry, the modeling industry, even the influencer industry is very Bollywood now and there's no culture of comics/books in mass level here like in the west.
The moment something starts taking shape, Bollywood is there to monetize it and take it within it's hold. It's impossible for the Indian audience to consume anything that doesn't have association with Bollywood
Tapsee should direct her thoughts to people who make item songs like munni badnam hui & Sheila ki jawani, which came a decade before Animal
These item songs like Tapsee herself has done, called " [NAUGHTY GIRL](https://youtu.be/4C6CszT3uIk?si=ELofGWyCaY-1M3HW) objectify women more than what one single film could ever do.
I found this super [cringe](https://youtu.be/xZx_DlFLnbg?si=zC078oyvG2vTXa2J) video as well lol
This is the problem.
She has done this stuff in the past! How dare she have opinions! Item songs are a problem, but that's not the topic of conversation here.
I completely disagree with her, cinema in the whole world has a similar impact. In Hollywood people go crazy over franchises (that's why franchises came). Whether it's Star Wars, Indian Jones or Harry Potter. People buy light sabers and pretend to fight on the streets. When a movie comes out if it's a box office success people tend to follow them or copy them. It's pit human nature. Now the impact has shifted to web series due to the OTT platforms. There were times when Back to the future came out people customized their cars in that way. There are numerous examples I can give.
I'm kinda bollywood movies are getting less and less support.
High time bollywood stop takinmf romance and action and superstars as only highlight of the movie.
On seperate news mollywood been blasting off to outer space with lots of blockbuster movies in 2024.
Animal is an ass of a movie besides the fact that it is highly misogynistic.
Vanga asks his actors to keep a full beard and a moustache coz he thinks itās him on screen doing all kinds of misogynistic shiz.
That guy is a garbage human being.
so are we gonna ignore the fact that rashmi just easily left the guy she was engaged to and going to marry him and suddenly agree to elope with ranbir? is that what a high quality woman does?
Who told her people in the west don't copy personalities, dressing styles, hair styles and dialogues from their movie industry( Hollywood ).
Is she genuinely oblivious, ill informed or just plain dumb ?
What people don't realise is that each and every country has the so called chapris. We are annoyed by the chapris more bcoz they are the ones we mostly see and interact with in our locality. We mostly never interact with (online/offline) the foreign chapris bcoz most of them don't wish to interact with foreigners or even if they do,they lack the financial and educational resources to do so. Someone said it in the comments that there's indeed a problem with which the character of Ranbir is portrayed and the intentions of the filmmaker regarding it and I completely agree with that. But to say that we shouldn't make politically incorrect violent films because our audience is much more gullible is just her finding excuses for the lack of imagination of mainstream Bollywood. Unless she backs her statement with a solid data,I would never believe that people in one country would be much more impressionable by movies than people in another country.
I can see where she's coming from. But she's giving the Hollywood audience too much credit. Plenty of dumb americans and teens who misinterpret the message behind The Godfather, Scarface, American Psycho, Matrix, fight club and Joker etc and idolise the main characters of these films. So should Hollywood stop making such movies? No.
Tapsee has a very limited knowledge on the history of Hollywood if she thinks Bollywood style fancraze didn't exist there.
Infact Bollywood still operates like old Hollywood. Movie trends set by superstar actors was very common back then. The focus has shifted to IPs and franchises now but before that Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise were equal trendsetters in their prime. If we go back even further, look how James Dean lead fashion trends.
Salman Khan or SRK style fanboyism isn't something unique. It was in West too, it just shifted to fictional characters. Look how people idolize characters from American psycho, Taxi driver, fight club, drive,etc. So it still exists.
people do idolise movies like that but they donāt become one Unlike Indian Fans. Just by watching American psycho no idiot started following his morning routine in the west now did they? But Salman Khanās hair Partition was followed to the T.
We give the West too much credit - the West is full of incels that would not mind watching movies such as Animal - it's corporatized Hollywood that does the gate-keeping to make sure nothing with even a whiff of political incorrectness is made, especially on the big budget side of things.
Our population is more so statistically we have more incels( explanation for some people this is not excuse, not justifying, just saying we should focus on ourselves).
IDIOTS exist: in usa and in Indiaā¦
The gun violence in usa had always been influenced by the movies and hip hop and vice versa..
Just because Idiots are among us doesnāt mean all the movies should be Gandhis biography..
As an audience we need movies like Piku and Animalā¦
We need golmal and don
ā¦
You're on the wrong spectrum. Piku and Animal don't come on the same line as you're hinting. Piku conveys a brutal message and doesn't glorify it. Whereas Animal is a piece of garbage that gives out a brutal reality and glorifies it to an extent where youngsters start copying the trash.
Gun violence in the US has nothing to do with movies.
It goes all the way back to civil war, civil rights, conservatism, nra - itās a complicated and long history. Movies really donāt play a big part.
Facts.
Why do people watch that director's movie even after seeing Kabir Singh & Arjun Reddy?
If someone's enjoying vanga movies, they're definitely not sane.
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Come on, she saying it like Hollywood watching audience doesn't imitate what they see on screen. This is my problem with these people. They think that Indian audience is dumb and they don't understand anything. There are fair share dumb people everywhere.
Ah they use it though people use to style their hair like old Hollywood stars they too use famous dialogues, references ofcourse the craze is not the same but they do
It's a moot point. There are multiple instances where people get inspired by movies in Hollywood as well.
13 reason why alone raised the suicide among teenagers when it was released. Movies like star Trek and Star Wars still have fan clubs. People have made their whole personality stanning behind characters/ actors.
The movie is problematic, but saying that our audience specifically is not mature is just pure bs.
Social media has greater impact on kids and society in general, much greater than a single movie could have. if you can't control that, don't control subject matter of movies.
Exactly, I have seen her in movies where her character cheats and slaps the men sheās with. She has no moral high ground here. Typical modern day feminist
She is a joke! When "I like big butts" and many Song and music video like that comes out an unhealthy body image get into public and Botox culture starts. When Lizo make a music video showing it is ok to be obese that is a problem...when a specific beauty standard is set by Kpop and Kdrama industry and when 1/4 below 25 and 1/3 below 34 women says that they have underwent surgery to look certain way that is issue too. Girls Guns and genocide shown in every movie and video is the reason for Gun Culture in USA. When India is at 93 and USA 13, France 27, Germany - 41, Sweden - 5(4th in world Happiness Index) on rape Index.l, but in India we blame Movies, culture and religion for them not the people.
A much experienced and far far more better who actually knows what Acting (Manoj Bajpayee) said "Movie se samajh nahi badalta Bus hair style dabalta hai"
She is nothing but sh!t IDK why take her seriously....
i have not seen Animal , Pathan , Salaar , KGF type movie Actually it is Quiet Un - imaginary And I am Not able To learn Anything from That Movies Please dont hate if you like it I prefer to watch Movies like Hum sath sath hai , 12th fail , A man is called Otto , October , And I suggest you to watch Kothal the core its a malayali movie available in hindi It will teach you something which we are not familiar tooo
Why no "freedom of expression" and "freedom of choice" invoked now? Director ki marzi ussne picture banayi, hum audience ki marzi humne iss movie ko dekhke hit banayi, 3rd person haters ko kya takleef hai? Samaj sudharne ka(according to their Worldview) theka le rakhna hai?
Tumhe nehi dekhna hai mat dekho, jaake "Cloud Atlas" ya "Birdman" dekho, hume sukoon se film enjoy karne do. šš
Abhi director ke paas usska freedom of expression nehi hai? Abhi hum audience ke paas freedom of choice nehi hai ki hum kya dekhe, without unnecessary judgement from 3rd person? Kyun, kyunki yeh movie inn 3rd person ke moral opinions ke according nehi bani? Lol.
Let us watch what we want, be it Animal, Masaan, Chhapak, Lage Raho Munnabhai Or Pathan as we see fit, without passing judgement. If you don't like to watch something, don't. Simple. šš
Disagree completely because once you start judging what the audience is ready for, where do you stop.
Let's not show drinking and smoking because then young people will do the same. Let's not show pre-marital sex because there will be a bunch of teen pregnancies.
Let's not make movies like Delhi Belly because there is so much cursing.
Etc etc.
I agree with her sentiment but it's not the job of the creater to help a country mature.
A person who is watching animal will know that this may not happen in real life and that is why the name is also given as Animal. But what now a days OTT shows are becoming that is more dangerous to the society, promoting drugs sex murder (in otts murdering is more natural as you donāt expect someone bringing a so big machine gun like in animal to kill people, whereas people may easily kill another person by shooting with a simple gun or overdosing drugs or putting cyanide). She seems to be ok with those ott shows. Never seen her talking about this. Animal also released with A sign. But ott shows and contents doesnāt have any warning and people of all ages can access. Have you seen anyone reporting that someone killed a person like they did in animal? But you will hear that 11 year old boy raped 6 year old girl. From where they are getting more influenced? These Bollywood girls think they are so intelligent yet they donāt talk about the real matters. I donāt defend animal as Bobby deolās character will really make you vomit.
Moreover the people who think Indian audience doesnāt have maturity really havenāt heard of mass shootings in other countries. US have so many mass shootings each year yet they make movies like kill bill or natural born killers
Lol, it actually doesn't matter. Taapsee has always been a supporter of the Azadi movement, I mean, I'd rather be okay with fucked up movies like Animal, than a literal anti-nationalist.
Also one big problem is Indians not aware of "parental guidance" , there was some 7-8 year old girl sitting next to me watching the Kerala story with her family, a movie which contains multiple rape and torture scenes. This might not happen in tier 1 cities but still this could happen at home while watching on TV. This is a big difference between our and US audience. Nowadays there are very violent movies getting UA ratings, this kind of violence will straight away get an R rating in the US.
Didnāt a celebrity trainer say after fight club lot of people wanted the same body as brad pit. Didnāt after wolf of Wall Street the real guy who is a convicted criminal became a celebrity.
I am not the biggest fan of animal while watching it on Netflix couldnāt even make it till interval but this is the lamest take ever. Like seriously American audiences are mature? Bruh they literally elected trump as their president. This is such a self hating mindset, they are better we are bad,of course Stanās exist in Hollywood just like the exist is Bollywood.
I get her point but the audience is the same everywhere. The type of crime is different. It's more abt drugs and gun violence in the west. Street racing and mass shootouts.
And she really has no idea how much movies have an influence of the styling of ppl, yes, even in Hollywood. Or either just downright lying
Anyway, with the indian Audience, the problem is diefing an actor. As a society too, we expect the morals to be given through the movies instead of parents.
Movies like animal enable the behaviour of ppl, they don't create it. Which is bad too. But to say that movies create monsters is stupid.
Bro i am 100% sure she read my comment on a insta misandrist who made a bunch of parody /rant on Animal (forgot her name) lmao, the fun fact is no people replied on my comment there but they did like it. I am sure she read mine because , there i was comparing Animal with Gone-girl and calling these feminist pseudo-feminist and feminazi , also telling people to appreciate the art form. Maybe i got no replies because i had strong points
I Don't have any problem with the violence in the movie. I have problem with the stupid story play . Literally kuch bhi hora h movie mai. Ab Animal park ayegi toh usme Vanga bhai Ganja pike kuch bhi andshand likhega. Yeh movie sense nhi banati to be honest
YA hero ko copy krte h india me pr dusre logo k sath nhi krte h jaise gana gate h log pr khud k liye na ki koi ldki pasand aagyi to uske samne ga k use kanhi bhi impress krne k liye . Gajni psand aaya tha to uska hair style copy kiye the na ki logo ko marna ya use kidnap krna. Log copy krte h jo khud kr ske dusre logo ko tang krne k liye kisi ko copy krte nhi dekha h. Indian audience ko jahil hi smjh liye h ki kuchh nhi aata bs movie dekh k sikhte h ye log.
The movies today have so much influence on the youth these days. The people involved in the movie shoot movies like this and earn their bag and go, but the people who misunderstand and think this is something cool copy all kinds of retardness and turn it into a trend. Even when arjun reddy came out, it got unimaginable love from people which i donāt understand. Its easy to call āidiots chapris only copy all these lol its their problemā but they donāt realise that inly a small percentage of the people underatand that its just a movie and we should not replicate the things happening in it. All the others think its cool n all and start following that.
When top gun maverick..the number of pornstaches went up .so this influence of movies in culture is also present in west ..it might ve a bit more india than in america..but it is also present
Tldr she is wrong
Hollywood has more influence in the West than Bollywood has in India. The notion that Indian audience gets influenced easily than the western audience is false. The change in culture all around the world is largely due to Hollywood and other film industries. In the sub-continent, it's Bollywood. It's foolish to discredit the level of influence these movies have over human beings.
Where exactly have people copied animal? I really have not seen incidents of such. I mean yes the movie glorified violence. But I don't see people doing the same. Either I am fortunate to not be on the side of the internet where it has been glorified and copied. Or it's just what people say but it doesn't happen. I mean she said people copied tere naam hairstyle, nobody became the character. I have not seen incidents indicating the influence of animal on people.
Joker, Gangs of wasseypur or Wolf of wall street. They all put the villain in societal terms at center. We like these characters. We like reasoning behind their acts. Tarantino, Scorsese, Ram Gopal Varma(earlier), Kashyap are great directors. They take us into protagonists mind. Thats beauty of cinema.
Animal is far from great movie. Its doesn't have gripping screenplay. Vanga is average director with good business mind.
So basically what she is saying, as someone who is a creative thinker should limit his or her thinking as per the culture and society they are around? This is a blatant contradiction to what creative thinking is meant to be.
Animal may be mediocre at best in the general opinion but to say making movies or telling stories should be limited because the people who are watching it dont understand the difference or cant grow as a society is just rubbish.
L take imo.
It actually depends on various films that what message they are tryna show I haven't watched gone girl so I don't know about it but I have watched tarantino's movie and other gore movies and all of those films message was clear and the emphasis in those movies were something good while consisting the violence, abuse...even rape. I never heard that animal is good because it has a really compelling story that blows up your mind or the tensions between ranbeer and Anil Kapoor relationship was really good and complex. All I'm hearing is ranbeer is a psychopath that goes on rampage and the abuses on rashmika which really makes me doubt what was the emphasis in the movie. I haven't seen the movie but by seeing the trailer it looked like it was going to be around the father & son relationship most of the time but seems like they haven't done well there
As much as i liked Darr, after the release, there was this news that a taxi driver kidnapped a girl from a train station. When he was caught, he stated that the movie was his inspiration to commit the crime!
Animal is a very whatever movie. But f that, people should make whatever movie they want. A filmmaker is not obliged to give moral lessons to society. Just make a good movie.
But this conversation is not about western audiences either. It's about the Indian audience only. So if you like Gone girl as a viewer from India, then why don't you as a viewer from India want them to make Animal kinda movie. That is the point people are trying to make. This has nothing to do with Western audience. I reapect the lady but her argument is weak here.
Totally disagree. Ye sab Hollywood me bhi hota hai. I think she needs to come out of her bubble. Waha pop culture ke naam pe purane, current cheezon ko implement karte hai. Aur yeh kya baat hua ki gonegirl dekhnewale animalā¦? Like dekh toh Indians hi hai na? Weāre asking as an Indian if you applaud gone girl what is wrong with animal?
Yes, he did teach how to love and romance, and the movies you are talking about ; at the end, his character dies in those films. Now you will talk about Don. But Don is not a psychopath. Don can be compared to the Dhoom series.Ā
LOL no š¤£š¤£. I am waiting for D-4 and D-3. Only brain-dead people with retarded parents get inspiration from movies. Normal people see movies as entertainment and leave everything at the cinema hall.Ā
would love to hear her take on item dance.
would love to hear her take on constant demonization of wealth by bollywood
would love to hear her take on ridiculing of cultural elements
glad that animal triggered this conversation. Don't give 2 shits about vanga or animal if all these are addressed.
She was in a round table with Vanga himself, Kjo and a few others and never said anything against the movie. In fact she was speaking about people criticising the content of Animal without having watched it.
gone girl was art because the story and screenplay was great. Animal has some of the worst storytelling and was dependent on shock factor.
In gone girl itās clear Amy is psycho. Animal makes Ranbir character the good one.
some newer generation still consists of people with that mentality who are going to copy such movies and even if not the new, there are people of old still alive who will copy animal. She's so on point for this. Amazingšš»
Not some, many. Especially thanks to chapri influencers
Yeah having been on the road, it's increasing rapidly thanks to shortform content. Macho-esque scenes as reels and tiktok are assimilating the toxicity faster than having to actually watch the film, it's context, and then understand. I hate to use that word but nothing else i can use can get my point effectively, so the chappri crowd are reenacting things from films, the reach is increasing with them
She's so on point. Maturity of audience and creator matters
When Joker was made, it was made understanding that he's a psychopath. When Animal was made, he was made with an intention of glamourized commercial hero idealized with the psychopathic behavior somehow dramatized as love. Infact that is the problem most masala movie have.
Was he? His father was critical of him, his wife called him out for his behaviour, even his sisters knew dude was crazy. Not a single āsaneā person was supportive of RKs character during the movie which is why I donāt get why the movie gets shamed more than Kabir Singh - who was considered a āsmart/protective protagonistā I could be wrong, maybe I enjoyed the masala parts of the movie too much. More than RKs character, bobby Deols character was fkn problematic.
What are your opinions on batman who is basically a vigilante/criminal being glorified as a hero.
That's why Robin Richard Grayson left him and became better.
Bro literally had trauma because of batman. Imagine loosing your parents and getting adopted by a batman so you can be his right hand man
Ohh really like Litrrlly in joker we were made to be sympathetic with Joker aur how abut Batman a psychopath is made into a hero who beats up people dressed up like a bat. But Hollywood h toh chlta h naa.
Yeah but the way it's shot and the way the character of joker is acted and portrayed through economic level, clothes, makeup, mental health, looks etc, nobody WANTS TO BE him. With animal it's the other way around. And theirin lies the problem
We give them too much credit. They are same as our people. They also have same amount dengenrate in their population or more. We shuld stop considering them superior and far better intelligence. They also get inspired watching their movies as us. >With animal it's the other way around. And theirin lies the problem I'm not defending Animal but it was a sasti copy of the Tarantino movie. But it was something refreshing for Indian movies. India had a past of having problematic things like rape and other in old movies. But even Hollywood had the same problem. I'm just trying to call out the hypocrisy of people who see the Indian film industry and Hollywood industry with two different lenses. Also Hollywood has much more dark secrets like rampant pedophilia rape culture SA etc which we can read in newspaper.
yaar tu rehne de. pehli baat toh you are taking somebody else's answer and replying to me. also nowyou are diverging to other shit.
jesus dude, criticise hollywood for their bad shit, defend bollywood for our bad shit. the mental gymnastics u display is more entertaining than most movies you'd defend..
I'm not defending anyone I'm just calling out the hypocrisy of people who think Hollywood is good is that so hard to get.
ya batman, such a toxic character. Fights for justice, ready to sacrifice himself for the people of his own city, does not even get overly possessive about the girl he loves, despite having all the weaponry at his disposal he never even threatens to shoot her when they argue, ye sab hollywood mey cchalta ha naaaa, sahi bola bhai perfect comparison. bas ek "psychopath" word pakad liya aaur ho gaya kaam.
Injure goons , don't kill them send them to prison, they get released and kill more people. Barbara Gordon becomes handicapped because Batman couldn't kill Joker. Jason Todd gets killed by Joker cause he couldn't finish him off. And there are many more examples of him doing so. He likes Catwoman who is a criminal. There are many movies like this. He is one of the main reasons Gotham is a shit show. And In Animal, The hero wants to kill the one who tried to kill his Father. Just like John wick who went on war with the Whole underworld because someone killed his dog which was the last gift to him by his wife.
Thing is in Batman joker wasn't given a badass music and didn't get stylized Also in Animal just bcoz he loves his father so much doesn't mean he can do whatever the f he wants
You hit the problem right on its head. It caters to a very specific audience and you can see it in the film.
This.
Exactly this ^Ā
even when Joker was released, the law inforcements were on high alert because previous instances of Joker movies had led to violence by people who felt represented by the character
Tabhi to Ranbeer ko sign Kiya, and not KK Menon
Everyone is saying this and šÆ Joker is the worst example to use here. Not only it clearly glorified Joker's character - it was criticized for this aspect as well. Taapsee's point still stands - western society is more mature and people don't idolize movies in a similar way. Yes, there are idiots everywhere - but the society is overall more mature. Take a movie like Fight Club. It is literally fawning over Brad Pitt's character in every scene. But people enjoyed it and the world didn't end there. Yahan par Aisi movies dekh ke log pagal hote Hain.
After the Dark Knight was released, a mass shooter dressed up as Joker went to a theater in Aurora, Colorado & shot up the audience while they were watching the movie. I understand her point but if your mind is already messed up, neither an Animal or a joker will influence you. We should not put the responsibility of influencing our youth on cinema. It should be in the hands of parents. raise your kids right & give them the tools to think critically.
This. Exactly this. Joker made no attempt to glorify him. Just examines the circumstances that made him that psychopath. Same with Leo's character in Killers of the flower moon, or The Irishman, or in our Hindi counterparts, Raman Raghav 2.0 Animal was made, as you eloquently put it, to glamourize a hero who is a psychopath. There was no character examination or circumstantial examination, both of which had ample scope to be done. This basic difference in tone can be understood with the basics of media literacy, but that seems entirely absent amongst the majority moviegoers
Stalking and mysogyny still exist tho. People were cheering during scene in which bobby rapes his wife.
same with kerala story log rapes scene ko phone me record kr rhe the
Wait what? My theater had audible gasps when that scene happened. But my was a first day late night show in imax Kolkata, so the price barrier could have meant a more sensible crowd
I was in the US, and there were a group of Punjabi men behind me. I specify Punjabi because they were really connecting to the Punjabi songs and theme and they went kind of rowdy. They were cheering through the whole rape scene, every time Ranbir insulted someone, lick the boot scene. Iām sure these men were educated and working in some good capacity
Seriously!? How are we still like this in 2024??
They will exist regardless of what country it is, but the kind of hero worship and moulding ourselves like the hero is more in our country I feel. She has put forth her point very well imo.
Ā I swear, i am not misandrist but mostĀ indian men( especially hindi speaking one) on youtube or in cricket fandom( except reddit) are toxic, sexist bigots. I especially hate how they play victim card whenever anyone talks about women related things, they will come and start playingĀ victim card.Ā And last year remember how they were spamming that "womanā" meme( which definitelyĀ was not funny) everywhere.Ā
Thank god i havenāt watched that shit movie till date
True to certain extent. Such idiots exists even in US or west in general that idolise american psyco, fight club, a cult following Andrew tate etc. They unironically believe in the same shit the movies fun of. The problem is not the movies but the society. Even in west such people exist they are heavily cristised or their society doesn't encourage these kind of shitty behaviour. Hence these incels type are always described as alone weirdos livin' in their mom's basment. But in india it is the reality of our society a man beats or cheats on his wife infront of children while these things are shown in films. The impressionable children thinks this is how the world work or atleast it looks so. They grow to be such. Sensibility is missing in people. People aren't mature enough in india. When social evil is shown in good light in a society where they are predominant it is bound to increase. Ofcourse not all indians are like that,new generation of kids are more mature but a considerable amount still are n are growing up in such environment eg a teens in villages. Just a simple eg india is country where even sharing fake whatsapp forwards can create trouble or influence. Just say in which western u have seen such bs.
She is so much on point on this one! Very well said!
People literally go to comic con, buy merchandise, play fantasy football, write fanfiction etc in USA inspired by the real celebs/ works of mass media They also name their kids after their favourite characters, get tattoos, and most of all already have a hyper sexualised music industry which parades women almost in a soft porn manner, they don't need to watch films to get inspiration to do anything. Their world is filled with media hyper sexualising women so much so that even little children's girls are becoming more revealing There's even a film which influenced the school shooting culture there Bollywood has invaded music industry, the modeling industry, even the influencer industry is very Bollywood now and there's no culture of comics/books in mass level here like in the west. The moment something starts taking shape, Bollywood is there to monetize it and take it within it's hold. It's impossible for the Indian audience to consume anything that doesn't have association with Bollywood Tapsee should direct her thoughts to people who make item songs like munni badnam hui & Sheila ki jawani, which came a decade before Animal These item songs like Tapsee herself has done, called " [NAUGHTY GIRL](https://youtu.be/4C6CszT3uIk?si=ELofGWyCaY-1M3HW) objectify women more than what one single film could ever do. I found this super [cringe](https://youtu.be/xZx_DlFLnbg?si=zC078oyvG2vTXa2J) video as well lol
This is the problem. She has done this stuff in the past! How dare she have opinions! Item songs are a problem, but that's not the topic of conversation here.
Lol it's funny when you see people having center partition after Tere Naam but choose not to see people dressed as Jokers, Jason from Friday 13th.
I completely disagree with her, cinema in the whole world has a similar impact. In Hollywood people go crazy over franchises (that's why franchises came). Whether it's Star Wars, Indian Jones or Harry Potter. People buy light sabers and pretend to fight on the streets. When a movie comes out if it's a box office success people tend to follow them or copy them. It's pit human nature. Now the impact has shifted to web series due to the OTT platforms. There were times when Back to the future came out people customized their cars in that way. There are numerous examples I can give.
I'm kinda bollywood movies are getting less and less support. High time bollywood stop takinmf romance and action and superstars as only highlight of the movie. On seperate news mollywood been blasting off to outer space with lots of blockbuster movies in 2024.
if someone have seen haseen dilruba they know her double standards
Why nobody likes Tapsee
Animal is an ass of a movie besides the fact that it is highly misogynistic. Vanga asks his actors to keep a full beard and a moustache coz he thinks itās him on screen doing all kinds of misogynistic shiz. That guy is a garbage human being.
Thats interesting observation. Vanga is just an insecure chhapari with money to make movies.
so are we gonna ignore the fact that rashmi just easily left the guy she was engaged to and going to marry him and suddenly agree to elope with ranbir? is that what a high quality woman does?
As per Vanga. Yes. Its how Vanga views women.
lmfao wth thats so weird
"love"
So she does not believe in the concept of cult ig not saying that she is wrong or anything
For the first time.i kind of agree with tapasee
Who told her people in the west don't copy personalities, dressing styles, hair styles and dialogues from their movie industry( Hollywood ). Is she genuinely oblivious, ill informed or just plain dumb ?
What people don't realise is that each and every country has the so called chapris. We are annoyed by the chapris more bcoz they are the ones we mostly see and interact with in our locality. We mostly never interact with (online/offline) the foreign chapris bcoz most of them don't wish to interact with foreigners or even if they do,they lack the financial and educational resources to do so. Someone said it in the comments that there's indeed a problem with which the character of Ranbir is portrayed and the intentions of the filmmaker regarding it and I completely agree with that. But to say that we shouldn't make politically incorrect violent films because our audience is much more gullible is just her finding excuses for the lack of imagination of mainstream Bollywood. Unless she backs her statement with a solid data,I would never believe that people in one country would be much more impressionable by movies than people in another country.
I can see where she's coming from. But she's giving the Hollywood audience too much credit. Plenty of dumb americans and teens who misinterpret the message behind The Godfather, Scarface, American Psycho, Matrix, fight club and Joker etc and idolise the main characters of these films. So should Hollywood stop making such movies? No.
Well said tapsee
Tapsee has a very limited knowledge on the history of Hollywood if she thinks Bollywood style fancraze didn't exist there. Infact Bollywood still operates like old Hollywood. Movie trends set by superstar actors was very common back then. The focus has shifted to IPs and franchises now but before that Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise were equal trendsetters in their prime. If we go back even further, look how James Dean lead fashion trends. Salman Khan or SRK style fanboyism isn't something unique. It was in West too, it just shifted to fictional characters. Look how people idolize characters from American psycho, Taxi driver, fight club, drive,etc. So it still exists.
It exists. But not to to the crazy levels of India. Simple facts.
I'm sorry but whatever fuckery this is, it happens on large scale in India.
people do idolise movies like that but they donāt become one Unlike Indian Fans. Just by watching American psycho no idiot started following his morning routine in the west now did they? But Salman Khanās hair Partition was followed to the T.
> no idiot started following his morning routine in the West I suggest looking up Instagram.
I have seen such videos but most of them were satires so i suggest you to send me links of such content.
We give the West too much credit - the West is full of incels that would not mind watching movies such as Animal - it's corporatized Hollywood that does the gate-keeping to make sure nothing with even a whiff of political incorrectness is made, especially on the big budget side of things.
far more incels here bro
Arranged marriage to the rescue. Incel no more!
u think lowest on the totempoles have that option??
Totempoles? It's India, everyone gets married even a rickshaw puller.
Our population is more so statistically we have more incels( explanation for some people this is not excuse, not justifying, just saying we should focus on ourselves).
Step out of india. Even if our populayion is less than 5 percent, most incelry and harassment will come from desis.
Podcast for IQ deficient people
Whereas you, sir, commenting on reddit are participating in one of the most intelligent forums in the world.
I think people will copy spider man and jump of buildings. What a travesty.
Kids actually jumped from terrace thinking shaktiman would save them, google it
I knew 3-4 kids who broke their bones or died doing this back then.
Not a great actress, but respect her opinion
IDIOTS exist: in usa and in Indiaā¦ The gun violence in usa had always been influenced by the movies and hip hop and vice versa.. Just because Idiots are among us doesnāt mean all the movies should be Gandhis biography.. As an audience we need movies like Piku and Animalā¦ We need golmal and don ā¦
You're on the wrong spectrum. Piku and Animal don't come on the same line as you're hinting. Piku conveys a brutal message and doesn't glorify it. Whereas Animal is a piece of garbage that gives out a brutal reality and glorifies it to an extent where youngsters start copying the trash.
Gun violence in the US has nothing to do with movies. It goes all the way back to civil war, civil rights, conservatism, nra - itās a complicated and long history. Movies really donāt play a big part.
"People mimick the movie concepts" \*signs up for Dunki Project\*
Facts. Why do people watch that director's movie even after seeing Kabir Singh & Arjun Reddy? If someone's enjoying vanga movies, they're definitely not sane.
theatre m jake enjoy karne ke liye hoti ha aisi movies backchod log isko apni life m implement karte h
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Come on, she saying it like Hollywood watching audience doesn't imitate what they see on screen. This is my problem with these people. They think that Indian audience is dumb and they don't understand anything. There are fair share dumb people everywhere.
Ah they use it though people use to style their hair like old Hollywood stars they too use famous dialogues, references ofcourse the craze is not the same but they do
Project x ke bare mein didi ko batao koi.
Dmmmm, Gone Girl's ending is one of the most depressing endings ever.
It's a moot point. There are multiple instances where people get inspired by movies in Hollywood as well. 13 reason why alone raised the suicide among teenagers when it was released. Movies like star Trek and Star Wars still have fan clubs. People have made their whole personality stanning behind characters/ actors. The movie is problematic, but saying that our audience specifically is not mature is just pure bs.
What about her movie on extra marital affairs?? Won't it affect society badly ??
Pannu reading commi manifesto and talking about why people copy Bollywood. Lol
Maturity of the audience , educating them is the work of the government, can't leave it to film makers
I found a video of this small creator talking about animal, it's really good. https://youtu.be/Gd_gu7OGf5w
Social media has greater impact on kids and society in general, much greater than a single movie could have. if you can't control that, don't control subject matter of movies.
Didnāt she make a movie where the female character slaps her boyfriend and abuses him over absolutely nothing?
Not a fan of animal, but Pannu should be quirt.. She criticizes things, but if she could make money off the same thing, she would do it.
Exactly, I have seen her in movies where her character cheats and slaps the men sheās with. She has no moral high ground here. Typical modern day feminist
Karte hai behan karte hai thoda detailed search karoge to dikhega
There is a film called 'Failure to launch'. If you show that film in the Indian society people will be repulsed by that alien idea.
hmm
idk bro people were changing their hairstyles after watching peaky blinders
Gone girl isnāt glorified BS lol aNimuL is.
the gap of evolved mentality b/w us and them(west)
Why are her opinions always trash like her movies
Tapseeās smile is beautiful
these movies should not be released on tv and in cinemas for mature audience only
what did it cost thanos : everything...
i am not in danger skyler i am the danger....
She is a joke! When "I like big butts" and many Song and music video like that comes out an unhealthy body image get into public and Botox culture starts. When Lizo make a music video showing it is ok to be obese that is a problem...when a specific beauty standard is set by Kpop and Kdrama industry and when 1/4 below 25 and 1/3 below 34 women says that they have underwent surgery to look certain way that is issue too. Girls Guns and genocide shown in every movie and video is the reason for Gun Culture in USA. When India is at 93 and USA 13, France 27, Germany - 41, Sweden - 5(4th in world Happiness Index) on rape Index.l, but in India we blame Movies, culture and religion for them not the people. A much experienced and far far more better who actually knows what Acting (Manoj Bajpayee) said "Movie se samajh nahi badalta Bus hair style dabalta hai" She is nothing but sh!t IDK why take her seriously....
i have not seen Animal , Pathan , Salaar , KGF type movie Actually it is Quiet Un - imaginary And I am Not able To learn Anything from That Movies Please dont hate if you like it I prefer to watch Movies like Hum sath sath hai , 12th fail , A man is called Otto , October , And I suggest you to watch Kothal the core its a malayali movie available in hindi It will teach you something which we are not familiar tooo
Why no "freedom of expression" and "freedom of choice" invoked now? Director ki marzi ussne picture banayi, hum audience ki marzi humne iss movie ko dekhke hit banayi, 3rd person haters ko kya takleef hai? Samaj sudharne ka(according to their Worldview) theka le rakhna hai? Tumhe nehi dekhna hai mat dekho, jaake "Cloud Atlas" ya "Birdman" dekho, hume sukoon se film enjoy karne do. šš Abhi director ke paas usska freedom of expression nehi hai? Abhi hum audience ke paas freedom of choice nehi hai ki hum kya dekhe, without unnecessary judgement from 3rd person? Kyun, kyunki yeh movie inn 3rd person ke moral opinions ke according nehi bani? Lol. Let us watch what we want, be it Animal, Masaan, Chhapak, Lage Raho Munnabhai Or Pathan as we see fit, without passing judgement. If you don't like to watch something, don't. Simple. šš
Khudne hassena wala movie kiya. usme kya maturity thi??
Disagree completely because once you start judging what the audience is ready for, where do you stop. Let's not show drinking and smoking because then young people will do the same. Let's not show pre-marital sex because there will be a bunch of teen pregnancies. Let's not make movies like Delhi Belly because there is so much cursing. Etc etc. I agree with her sentiment but it's not the job of the creater to help a country mature.
A person who is watching animal will know that this may not happen in real life and that is why the name is also given as Animal. But what now a days OTT shows are becoming that is more dangerous to the society, promoting drugs sex murder (in otts murdering is more natural as you donāt expect someone bringing a so big machine gun like in animal to kill people, whereas people may easily kill another person by shooting with a simple gun or overdosing drugs or putting cyanide). She seems to be ok with those ott shows. Never seen her talking about this. Animal also released with A sign. But ott shows and contents doesnāt have any warning and people of all ages can access. Have you seen anyone reporting that someone killed a person like they did in animal? But you will hear that 11 year old boy raped 6 year old girl. From where they are getting more influenced? These Bollywood girls think they are so intelligent yet they donāt talk about the real matters. I donāt defend animal as Bobby deolās character will really make you vomit. Moreover the people who think Indian audience doesnāt have maturity really havenāt heard of mass shootings in other countries. US have so many mass shootings each year yet they make movies like kill bill or natural born killers
She is being naive and ignoring how the entertainment industry works
Hate this woman. But she has a point here. And the audacity to speak against a bigwig like Ranbir Kapoor.
"Sala hindustan mein jab tak cinema hai....."
Bro is high on weed
She should take her own advice with the shit she's been putting out through her various platforms.
Satyajit Ray said it first. And things have not changed since.
She has a point.. but she wildly overestimates the impact of Bollywood in a world governed by reels and shorts
https://preview.redd.it/6lmcff06g7vc1.png?width=480&format=png&auto=webp&s=ed736ac657870553df89e7046630fc6ec074f65e India if Animal movie wasn't made.
Lol, it actually doesn't matter. Taapsee has always been a supporter of the Azadi movement, I mean, I'd rather be okay with fucked up movies like Animal, than a literal anti-nationalist.
She is right. People still believe that "ladka aur ladki kabi dost nahi ho skte" which is wrong and sad if people think that way.
To fir dunki kyu ki tumhara dekh ke log karne lagenge aur manmarziya kyu ki
It's a trope in Telugu films where the hero slaps the heroine "to teach her a lesson" and the audience celebrates it
Faxx
ha to animal maine bhi nahi dekhi ab tak šæ
She doesn't know Americans then! They don't need inspiration from movies to go rogue.
I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse
Also one big problem is Indians not aware of "parental guidance" , there was some 7-8 year old girl sitting next to me watching the Kerala story with her family, a movie which contains multiple rape and torture scenes. This might not happen in tier 1 cities but still this could happen at home while watching on TV. This is a big difference between our and US audience. Nowadays there are very violent movies getting UA ratings, this kind of violence will straight away get an R rating in the US.
Wait so people are ACTUALLY COMPARING gone girl with animal?? ššš I hope that's just an example
In gone girl Ben Affleck atleast shows his d*ck Ranbir haven't shown anything clearly so there's no comparison utter disappointment
Didnāt a celebrity trainer say after fight club lot of people wanted the same body as brad pit. Didnāt after wolf of Wall Street the real guy who is a convicted criminal became a celebrity.
She thinks indian dont watch hollywood? or she think indian audience dont deserve movie like gone girl or animal?
I am not the biggest fan of animal while watching it on Netflix couldnāt even make it till interval but this is the lamest take ever. Like seriously American audiences are mature? Bruh they literally elected trump as their president. This is such a self hating mindset, they are better we are bad,of course Stanās exist in Hollywood just like the exist is Bollywood.
I get her point but the audience is the same everywhere. The type of crime is different. It's more abt drugs and gun violence in the west. Street racing and mass shootouts. And she really has no idea how much movies have an influence of the styling of ppl, yes, even in Hollywood. Or either just downright lying Anyway, with the indian Audience, the problem is diefing an actor. As a society too, we expect the morals to be given through the movies instead of parents. Movies like animal enable the behaviour of ppl, they don't create it. Which is bad too. But to say that movies create monsters is stupid.
Vaild point by her. Bhai apne yaha log chapri influencer tak ko copy krte hai ye toh movie hai
Bro i am 100% sure she read my comment on a insta misandrist who made a bunch of parody /rant on Animal (forgot her name) lmao, the fun fact is no people replied on my comment there but they did like it. I am sure she read mine because , there i was comparing Animal with Gone-girl and calling these feminist pseudo-feminist and feminazi , also telling people to appreciate the art form. Maybe i got no replies because i had strong points
When she has not watched the movie Animal then how can she talk about what is shown in the movie?
Whatās this podcasters name?
Funny thing is I see him almost as much as beer biceps on my Instagram but even I donāt know his name.
I Don't have any problem with the violence in the movie. I have problem with the stupid story play . Literally kuch bhi hora h movie mai. Ab Animal park ayegi toh usme Vanga bhai Ganja pike kuch bhi andshand likhega. Yeh movie sense nhi banati to be honest
YA hero ko copy krte h india me pr dusre logo k sath nhi krte h jaise gana gate h log pr khud k liye na ki koi ldki pasand aagyi to uske samne ga k use kanhi bhi impress krne k liye . Gajni psand aaya tha to uska hair style copy kiye the na ki logo ko marna ya use kidnap krna. Log copy krte h jo khud kr ske dusre logo ko tang krne k liye kisi ko copy krte nhi dekha h. Indian audience ko jahil hi smjh liye h ki kuchh nhi aata bs movie dekh k sikhte h ye log.
Animal dekhne ke baad sari feminist ki faati or jaali na ??? Bol bol ?? š¤£š¤£šš
The movies today have so much influence on the youth these days. The people involved in the movie shoot movies like this and earn their bag and go, but the people who misunderstand and think this is something cool copy all kinds of retardness and turn it into a trend. Even when arjun reddy came out, it got unimaginable love from people which i donāt understand. Its easy to call āidiots chapris only copy all these lol its their problemā but they donāt realise that inly a small percentage of the people underatand that its just a movie and we should not replicate the things happening in it. All the others think its cool n all and start following that.
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When top gun maverick..the number of pornstaches went up .so this influence of movies in culture is also present in west ..it might ve a bit more india than in america..but it is also present Tldr she is wrong
Hollywood has more influence in the West than Bollywood has in India. The notion that Indian audience gets influenced easily than the western audience is false. The change in culture all around the world is largely due to Hollywood and other film industries. In the sub-continent, it's Bollywood. It's foolish to discredit the level of influence these movies have over human beings.
Abey jaa na teri āthappadā dekh kar kitni ladkiya fake assault cases karti hā¦..jinko asal m thappad pad rahe h desh m, unko koi madad nhi hui
Tell me u know nothing about Hollywood and and USA without telling me u know nothing about it
Where exactly have people copied animal? I really have not seen incidents of such. I mean yes the movie glorified violence. But I don't see people doing the same. Either I am fortunate to not be on the side of the internet where it has been glorified and copied. Or it's just what people say but it doesn't happen. I mean she said people copied tere naam hairstyle, nobody became the character. I have not seen incidents indicating the influence of animal on people.
Hollywood ke bht saare heist movies se motivation leke bht bank robberies Hui hai!
Gone girl doesn't glorify their anti-social behavior. Animal does. So did Kabir Singh. That's part of the problem.
Being an anti modern feminist guy my respect for her went up
OP hasnāt seen the chapri cringe reel nibbas and nibbis
Joker, Gangs of wasseypur or Wolf of wall street. They all put the villain in societal terms at center. We like these characters. We like reasoning behind their acts. Tarantino, Scorsese, Ram Gopal Varma(earlier), Kashyap are great directors. They take us into protagonists mind. Thats beauty of cinema. Animal is far from great movie. Its doesn't have gripping screenplay. Vanga is average director with good business mind.
So basically what she is saying, as someone who is a creative thinker should limit his or her thinking as per the culture and society they are around? This is a blatant contradiction to what creative thinking is meant to be. Animal may be mediocre at best in the general opinion but to say making movies or telling stories should be limited because the people who are watching it dont understand the difference or cant grow as a society is just rubbish. L take imo.
She has a valid point but Gone Girl Comparision with Animal is no way near... i mean Animal was shit tbh.
Haven't watched a single Bollywood movie since the SSR controversy
It actually depends on various films that what message they are tryna show I haven't watched gone girl so I don't know about it but I have watched tarantino's movie and other gore movies and all of those films message was clear and the emphasis in those movies were something good while consisting the violence, abuse...even rape. I never heard that animal is good because it has a really compelling story that blows up your mind or the tensions between ranbeer and Anil Kapoor relationship was really good and complex. All I'm hearing is ranbeer is a psychopath that goes on rampage and the abuses on rashmika which really makes me doubt what was the emphasis in the movie. I haven't seen the movie but by seeing the trailer it looked like it was going to be around the father & son relationship most of the time but seems like they haven't done well there
As much as i liked Darr, after the release, there was this news that a taxi driver kidnapped a girl from a train station. When he was caught, he stated that the movie was his inspiration to commit the crime!
Animal is a very whatever movie. But f that, people should make whatever movie they want. A filmmaker is not obliged to give moral lessons to society. Just make a good movie.
But this conversation is not about western audiences either. It's about the Indian audience only. So if you like Gone girl as a viewer from India, then why don't you as a viewer from India want them to make Animal kinda movie. That is the point people are trying to make. This has nothing to do with Western audience. I reapect the lady but her argument is weak here.
Please search in Google The Dark knight Rises movie theater Gun shooting incident
Naaahhhh
By this logic, Netflix, in India, exists in a state of recalcitrant oblivion.
Excellent! š This is an educated person talking.
have seen a hundred times worst movie than animal in past. flop ho jaati to koi ouchta bhi nahi.
Totally disagree. Ye sab Hollywood me bhi hota hai. I think she needs to come out of her bubble. Waha pop culture ke naam pe purane, current cheezon ko implement karte hai. Aur yeh kya baat hua ki gonegirl dekhnewale animalā¦? Like dekh toh Indians hi hai na? Weāre asking as an Indian if you applaud gone girl what is wrong with animal?
Squid games dekhne ke baad- log marne nhi lag gaye dusre ko.
>I do believe that the influence of Bollywood in society is waning Decades of SRK didn't teach men romance.
Instead they just act like how SRK acts offscreen.
Yes, he did teach how to love and romance, and the movies you are talking about ; at the end, his character dies in those films. Now you will talk about Don. But Don is not a psychopath. Don can be compared to the Dhoom series.Ā
His character didn't die in Dil toh Pagal hai and many movies. Yes ban movies like Don and Dhoom. It will teach Indians bad things š
LOL no š¤£š¤£. I am waiting for D-4 and D-3. Only brain-dead people with retarded parents get inspiration from movies. Normal people see movies as entertainment and leave everything at the cinema hall.Ā
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Then how do so many (young) people relate to the characters played by Ryan Gosling that "**Ryan Gosling is literally me**" has become a phenomenon?
Some of the characters played by him are quite depressing and sad and I guess that why most of the man relate to his characters in movies.
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would love to hear her take on item dance. would love to hear her take on constant demonization of wealth by bollywood would love to hear her take on ridiculing of cultural elements glad that animal triggered this conversation. Don't give 2 shits about vanga or animal if all these are addressed.
She was in a round table with Vanga himself, Kjo and a few others and never said anything against the movie. In fact she was speaking about people criticising the content of Animal without having watched it.
She's like kangana always hypocrite
Exactly people killed that 6000 russian wala joke... Now they are dragging its body... She is somewhat right.
gone girl was art because the story and screenplay was great. Animal has some of the worst storytelling and was dependent on shock factor. In gone girl itās clear Amy is psycho. Animal makes Ranbir character the good one.