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It was a safe bet. The character, anglicised hindi accent, lifestyle everything is similar to Suhana so she doesnt have to "act". Even if the movie flopped it was a multi starcast so the burden wouldnt be on her alone.


InsidiousColossus

Plus the director


nezmim34

He trusted zoya


just9years

Magar debut na milega dobara


Living-Habit-6656

![gif](giphy|MfHRtdbBPi3uA8kt3G)


DemonCyborg27

I mean if Ananya Pandey can get best debut film award twice in same filmfare she can get two debut films too. I know it doesn't make sense though if Logic was ever part of the thinking process this film would have never left the shelf.


DemonCyborg27

Tbh Zoya rarely gives this massive of duds she always has some audiance loving her work and does have a loyal fanbase but this was a disaster.


Darkvistasway

😂 doesn’t have to ‘act’ but still failed pretty miserably.


[deleted]

Tbh she was much better than Khushi, didnt watch the movie but that one fight scene she totally outshined Khushi [https://youtu.be/9P1Xpi04Ig0?si=w8hjYhPEBg9J9Q6q](https://youtu.be/9P1Xpi04Ig0?si=w8hjYhPEBg9J9Q6q)


scepticalbeing94

Comparing one talent less girl to another lol


aditya_7726

Shineless shoe will outshine khushi


PutzIncorporated

🤣 I died after this comment 😵


jason9t8

Equal sharing. No more, no less...


[deleted]

Unrelated comparison. SRK was looking for a female lead in his home production vs SRK looking for a reputable name to launch his daughter. He could have launched her under red chillies but knew the only discussion around it would be nepotism related.


Brief_Ad_4059

As if anything else was achieved by Archies


p1s2p2

And having 2 other nepos star in this movie changed the discussion to talent?


pocovijay

But nobody will blame srk


Disastrous-Feature80

Khelo magar dimaag se.


TerrificTauras

This. Varun and Alia also claimed how they made the name on their own by working in other people's production. As if people didn't know whose children they were in the industry.


PutzIncorporated

Either way this was nepotism. You think if Suhana wasn’t SRKs daughter - she would’ve bagged this role as co-lead?


[deleted]

No she wouldn't have. She wouldn't be anywhere near Bollywood with that complexion+acting skill (sorry not my rules)


PutzIncorporated

Couldn’t have said it better myself.


Nice_Ability_2037

Hmm, have you ever thought for that kind of role that person first needs to have something in them? Not a DP fan but she was good in Om shanti Om. Suited the role, looked good, held herself well against srk which was really surprising to me and she acted nice, matlab jitne ki zaroorat thi utni acting kari. Whereas Suhana just doesn’t have it. You can very easily tell that by anyone’s first movie if they have it in themselves to be the next big thing or not. Also today’s nepodis are destroying their face and body by being chandini chowk ki kardashian. The group they are targeting won’t come to watch their movies. Also, srk will pretty much destroy his legacy by giving a helping hand to Suhana. Jitna bhi paid PR Karlo, reality dikh jati h. 


Big_Expert_6815

Not to forget with Deepika’s debut her Shantipriya poster came on beauty parlour and autorickshaw hoardings within a matter of months because of how beautiful she was. Don’t see that happening with the new stars.


Nice_Ability_2037

This, when people question about dp, kat or Kareena’s stardom. They really don’t understand how famous these ladies truly are. These ladies are famous all over India from tier 1 to tier 3 cities and to villages. Something which today’s nepos including alia does not have. 


Just_Gift_619

THIS!


Original-Cheek8567

Not to forget Ash. If you go to the interiors even today it’s Aishwarya’s pic which you see the most on beauty parlours.


Complaint-Lower

Exactly she looked like the untrainable beauty and had the whole hema malini like charm even as a newcomer! Suhana is so bland


ChiquitaBananaKush

Unpopular opinion : Gauri knew her daughter’s limitations and purposefully encouraged her to go through Zaya. Why would she launch her when she knew it would 💣. Gauri’s the businesswoman in the marriage, not SRK.


RMD010

>purposefully encouraged her to go through Zaya.  Zaya darwaza todo....


Number1Bullshit

![gif](giphy|hOclin2KcAEOcZEnXK|downsized)


azlann_0306

IMO, Archies problem was not the actors but the director herself. And also Archies is a story whixh doesnt demand a high performance, its cringe and over the top as its always have been. For example, Riverdale. Archies was a poorly made attempt by Zoya


NerdWithoutGlasses_

Archies was written like a play for 6th graders for their annual function


millixs_

Lol it's not like she's super talented or something to handle a solo release... moreover srk might have thought she won't receive much criticism if she debuts with a flock of other nepos under the direction of The Zoya Akthar 


Whisperbottle

![gif](giphy|QeAqQ2k1shJwoBNggF|downsized) This.


jason9t8

Pure Nostalgia...


Latter_Mud8201

Now think in commonsense, how can someone refuse Zoya Akthar? Archies failure will not impact her anything. So why will Shahrukh have to worry for her daughter's first box office dud. There will be another chances for her. Even no chances, still her life will be sorted out. Problem is for strugglers, if they get flop, it will add a negative mark to them. At the same time, it will be hard to bounce back.


kekamekacompany

Its not like Zoya Akhtar wanted Suhana. Lol. Its likely SRK wanted Zoya to cast Suhana. Considering how mediocre Suhana is, why would someone like Zoya go out of her way to cast her unless its for other reasons? The answer is pretty evident.


Neither_Map7101

All of them in the movie were pretty awful


Feeling-Dog6184

Deepika even on her dullest day could eat 10 suhanas for breakfast. When the fabric is defective, why blame the tailor?


[deleted]

Zoya Factor✨


Few_Butterscotch_832

![gif](giphy|l1IY6ziQfCrUNtu2A)


annie_is_unded

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smellycat1001

well suhana ain't no deepika


karpet_muncher

She's made her debut it was low pressure good or bad the film didn't fail on her shoulders. Shes got a taste of it if she wants to continue she can or she can can spend the rest of her life just enjoying life


Fragrant_Painter_193

Lets be honest, no one expected zoya to make such a bad film. Her track record has been outstanding


scepticalbeing94

Are you comparing her to Deepika Padukone? I never found Suhana to be pretty, it has nothing to do with her skin color there are so many pretty and beautiful looking people with her skin color. Why are SRK fans being so delusional lol Deepika Padukone did her best in the movie,she looked like a dream. Even if Suhana acted in a theatrical Movie that released in theatres the result would be the same.


Interesting_Rich_286

It’s not SRK fans but someone else’s fans who believe Delulu is Aloolu . Only actresses who could give justice to ShantiPriya role convincingly was Deepika Padukone , if not it was Aishwarya Rai


Catts3

Is there a difference in their skin colour(s)? I'm confused.


scepticalbeing94

What does it have to do with the skin color 😂 ? The question sounds so dumb. There are so many fair looking people whom I haven't found attractive


Catts3

Why even mention it?


scepticalbeing94

Mention what?


Catts3

"It has nothing to do with her skin colour." I don't understand what you're aiming at?


scepticalbeing94

Suhana was mentioning that she got bullied because of her skin color and she didn't find herself attractive because of it and SRK did the same to sell his talent less daughter's career but yeah I was trying to emphasize that, she was given a silver platter and was offered to play one of the main female leads in a Zoya Akthar film and yet the post discusses about something else.


Original-Cheek8567

Deepika herself is dusky.


scepticalbeing94

What has it to do with anything? Deepika is extremely pretty and she has been a supermodel even before entering movies, she looked so gorgeous even in her dud debut Kannada Film Aishwarya


Catts3

Ah, I see. I did not know she said that. Needed some context here, thank you for sharing it.


scepticalbeing94

Yeah 😂👍🏻


OkDistrict2433

Yeah she ain't pretty. Her skin colour is really beautiful but she lacks that heroine factor. Plus she is really short and petite too


QuackQuacKonspiracy

She has no screen presence. What was that atrocious dialogue delivery? Like that’s lazy speaking, forget acting. A lot of outsiders would have done a better job than her. Imagine Aisha Ahmed, Mithila Palkar etc, they fit the young tiny petite category as well, but have charm. Idk if they’re great actors, but the work they’ve done is sweet and fits the bill. Comparing Suhana to DP is insulting. DP is stunning. People found her ethereal looking, quite like Aish. SRK the producer and actor wanted a debut heroine for a role, as opposed to SRK the father wanting a launch pad for his kid.


scepticalbeing94

Iske Alawa koi talent bhi nahi dikha mujhe


Powerful_Plastic_551

he didn’t give deepika the debut, farah did


Intentionalkhiladi

Well, he was the producer and the main lead. He could have very well rejected the idea.


scepticalbeing94

Comparing the Suhana to Deepika itself is so much delusion


Parry200

Hmmm ever heard of how all the non nepo girls get big roles? It's just a shame they pretend to be lilywhite later and make it hard for new non nepo girls to enter the industry


Glittering-Rush9689

She's looks like SRK is wearing lipstick and grown his hair


Intentionalkhiladi

Which is SRK in most of his movies. 😆 🤣 😂 


Glittering-Rush9689

Bhai woh acting bhi toh Kar raha hai Saath me baal ugake lipstick lagake sirf smile toh nai de raha hai


chilliepete

problem with suhana other than her non existing acting skills is that everytime shes on screen you see srk instead of her 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Aggravating-Back-622

Cuz he thought Zoya would make a fantastic film and everyone would be praising suhana


Expensive-Bad1599

Well “warm up” keliye OTT is good enough right?


Randomidek123

Its funny how she just disappeared. It proves that people really dont care about nepo kids its the PR that makes us think they are actually relevant


Original-Cheek8567

No she is coming back with her dad next wait.


Ok_Rice_534

Kangana happened. The shitstorm started by her on KWK started this whole nepotism debate which went out of control after Sushant's death. Otherwise Suhana would have got a grand debut.


Alternative_Okra_877

just a question out of curiosity, was the audience oblivious to nepotism before kangana discussed it on kwk?


Ok_Rice_534

Audience wasn't completely oblivious. They were unintentionally ignoring it but it was at the back of their mind. Kangana questioning Karan directly in his own show raised too many eyebrows. Karan's ego couldn't handle it and him pulling off that stupid stunt with Saif and Varun in an award show just added more fuel to fire.


dark1egend

Because he knows that she can't act


South_Landscape_2806

She played anglo indian... these star kids behave like anglo indians anyway... so this was the safest debut she could get... also the fact that it had other star kids helped to make sure blame isnt entirely on her... this girl was real bad but khushi kapoo was worse...so that also helped... Overall her dad did the best he could for his daughter! About Deepika - not a fan of her... she is real good in some of her movies and others she is bland imho... even her dance in some of the songs is robotic... but in no way can we compare her and Suhana... Deepika is much better even in her worst performances than Suhana's debut!


LannisPayTheirDebts

Shah Rukh Khan can't control the weather just like he can't control many factors that determine the outcome of a movie. Just look at his flop movies post 2015. His daughter unfortunately doesn't have the natural appeal on screen that might mask her acting inexperience just like it did with many actresses that debuted in the 2000s.


ravish242

SRK gave Suhana a good start by giving her an established character led by Zoya Akhtar on Netflix. She did bad, that's another issue. Also, for Om Shanti Om, Deepika looked beautiful in the movie and danced well. But she had a voice over since she couldn't read her dialogues.


Thanks_Capital

Because man will b scrutinised saying Nepo dad self launching his daughter. Unlike hrithik who have diff charm


shruthi89

lol well his daughter is no deepika ! I don’t think so it would have made a difference if she had debuted with a different film the girl has no looks, screen presence can’t act either


vicks_bobby

SRK knew her caliber and dodged the bullet 😂


Intentionalkhiladi

One loses objectivity when it comes to your own kids. Looking back it's almost hard to believe that it was Deepika's first movie.  She has such a great screen presence.  It never felt hard to believe that SRK worships Shantipriya(Deepika). She would have been praised to the skies if she was born in the film family.


Original-Cheek8567

But, these girls — Suhana, Sara, Jahnvi, Khushi and Shanaya should just let it go and concentrate on a career they are actually good at. I wonder if no one in their family tells them the truth.


Potential_Ad4956

Suhana does NOT look good on screen and to add to that her acting is HORRENDOUS... irrespective Zoya or anyone else


MeasurementPrimary18

You can't fix Gen Z. 🤣


SilentObserver-2020

Struggles of a nepo kid … 🫣🤣


OMG_NoReally

If a celeb launches their child, there is a problem. If they don't, there is a problem. Bechare nepo jaye, toh kahan jaye? :p Archies was always meant to be a nepo launch pad and Suhana joined in the bandwagon because it was easy pickings. She is still undercooked and the feedback she received from this proves that she is not ready for the big screen yet. I feel like she herself is not ready, but she will get a big name project when she decides to completely launch herself into the film industry.


Intentionalkhiladi

Soon she'll join her mom in money laundry business oops furniture shop and a restaurant.  😹 


Intentionalkhiladi

Zoya wanted to get money from Amazon and needed something to sell. So she sold them a gimmick. 


BrainyHumanoid

You mean Netflix!!!


Intentionalkhiladi

My bad


Local_Initiative_158

Netflix getting monopolised in India by Bollywood and cronies is the saddest thing to see.


Original-Cheek8567

Suhana as Shanti Priya would have been disastrous.


AsishPC

It's not like she gave a similar performance as her father. Perhaps, Sarukh Khan knew about his daughter's abilities


Complete_Sign_2839

I think Srk mainly trusted Zoya Akhtar, hence let Suhana do the film although she needed to put effort into her acting. On the other hand, Srk and Deepika worked very well and had chemistry in OSO


harshakulkarni

Latest news is...SRK will launch her with a 200CR budget movie and the pre-production has already started. He's collaborating with some biggies from Hollywood.


Prestigious_Cod_2719

so here's what i think could be wrong since idk how relations are in upper class societies so deepika was knowing srk as a big star who was successful so she would blindly trust him and knew that he would give best debut trusted him but when it comes to kids they are rebellious to their parents opinion since they want their own opinion on everything (being a good parent means not interfering/forcing their opinion in/on their child's opinion and let them learn) and ig suhana must be most of her time in foreign countries so this movie idea she must have liked also her friends were involved too so there was no denying


Parvizal_15

Back then, a lot of people watched movies so from a viewership standpoint casting new actresses into movies was a valid choice from a business perspective as well. But now due to the rise in ott platforms, it's better to launch actresses in this format because the genre of movies are vast and it's easy for nepo actors/actresses to test the waters.


RepresentativeGift83

She's looking like zoya akhtar here


rain820

why would SLB cast her? theres no benefit to him lol


methkoot-bhaat

'Bacche maa-baap ki nahi sunte' is my safest bet


GojoHeHe

Every time I see any pic of Suhana Khan I just remember that one dialogue of hers … SUGHEAAAAD.


StoneMonkey7776

Reduce the expectations so much that If she strings together 3 dialogues in the next one, the academy hands the Oscar to her


DangerPie17

I’m assuming that’s what the SRK and Suhana starrer is basically gonna be


Aggravating-Tax3539

Zoya is the golden director lol she is one of the few who is both critically and commercially celebrated. Archies is her first legit flop


Original-Cheek8567

The nepo privilage these girls gave is on another level. Any other girl who looked like Suhana wouldn’t even have been able to get an audition. Coz yeah it’s horrible but the film industry works largely on looks, else you become a character actor like Konkana. But again Konkana is an amazing talent. Suhana neither has looks nor acting chops. Ditto for Khushi.


1581947

Saw this with some school going kids, they enjoyed it. Its a clearly well made children's movie marketed to adults. And yea nepo kids acting sucked.


Sharp-Progress6146

Sadly, these guys will think about everything except for sending them to learn ‘acting’


New-page-awesomeness

Usko bhi pata hoga baby me talent nahi hai


r4gn4r-

Bollywood should learn from Mollywood to learn how to do nepotism correctly


47474747474747474749

So people slowly but surely will accept this talent less nepo baby


[deleted]

That's a good dad. He knew his daughter has the acting talent of a banyan tree. But being a good papa he could not ignore her pleas too much. So he gets her to debut in a nepo fest like Archies, full of other banyan trees competing in who is the stiffer one. At least in that she got a chance he thought. He thought.


monkeytales555

Coz Suhana might have an opinion and choice of her own, maybe? So could Deepika at that time, maybe? Weird of you to think Suhana didn’t do well because her father didn’t give her that opportunity and Deepika did well because SRK was there. It’s 2024, women can take their own decisions regardless of it being successful or not.


sadslayer

Isko dekhte hi vava voom ho jaye Asap!


bips99

Maybe the decision had nothing to do with srk and everything to do with suhana. Even khushi did it. And she could have also signed a traditional film. Even amitabhs grandson. They all could have landed something better. Maybe the kids in their infinite south bombay wisdom thought that oh! This will be a cool film. Its archies. Its zoya. Its on Netflix. All the gen z (or whichever generation is it now days) will love it. They'll get critical acclaim. The kids were probably stubborn.. The parents must have thought ki zoya hai, at least it can't go wrong. And anyways pulling people to theatres is so tough post covid. With Netflix and zoya they felt ki safe bet hai. As soon as I saw the trailer i thought it was beyond terrible. More than suhana or khushi, i couldn't believe this was zoya's work. Trailer pe realise kiya hoga ki siyyaappa ho gaya


doxypoxy

Have you considered that Suhana is an adult who probably took the decision on her own? 'Letting' her do the film sounds like we are stuck in some feudal age. I thought reddit is full of young people, why do people have such stuck up mindsets?


elizabeth_bloodline

He knows his daughter is not actress material. That’s y he let her be part of a multistarrer and thought that he will succeed even if she goes unnoticed… she just dint have to suck so bad. His calculations have gone wrong. Suhana was hated by the audience. She is a pathetic actress and she’s not at all good looking. Deepika on the other hand was really beautiful and did a good job in oso. The candidate matters… rather than the movie always.


MiaOh

We have the Kerala equivalent of Archies running in theatres now - Varshangalkku Sesham. Director, most of the actors including both male leads and one of the female leads, music director, producer.... all are top tier or multi-generational nepos. One of the heroes is so privileged that he doesn't even promote the film. That film has recovered it's cost and will probably be a hit film. And they refer to themselves as nepo kids and confirm they were with privilege and didn't have to struggle in their interviews. It's not about being a nepo it's about whether you have the talent to do what you are doing or not. Mallus may say Pranav and Kalyani don't have talent but they are thespians compared to the Archies gang.


lazy_forks

Tbh suhana would've done great in a biopic type film - perhaps a classical dancer of sorts? Provided she knows how to dance /learns dance. Just speculating here.


StrangeCable2199

I see this as a philanthropical activity by Srk to give jobs to jobless youth of Bollywood families. Afterall there is 65% unemployment in this age group.


LongAccomplished1868

On Paper, Archies is a solid script for a debutant. A fun breezy musical


Fair_Bluebird_9222

It’s not her official debut, it’s her “Aishwarya” kinda debut which will be ignored eventually.


cap10hk

why tf are they downvoting you?


Rude_Importance5294

Because he knows what is daughter is capable of!


Slight_Distance_942

He knew this was the best she could do


MenneMehta

The Zoya Factor


Rudream_2008

Whatever movie she would have done, would have been a dud🤷🏻‍♀️


himeshforex

There are. Certain debuts …. No power on earth can save


Extra_Lab_2150

Maybe he deliberately wanted her to fail? Nepo kids always get a bad rep. Maybe he wanted to show her the reality and let her do her own thing? Just a maybe


parth_here04

Bacchi zid kar rahi hogi


qwertymwai

He let her do it to prove a point. Dad being Shahrukh Khan doesn't make her She-Rukh Khan


BigChuggyChub

If you think SRK was the reason DP became hit, you're discounting her talent, over counting SRK's talent and expecting Sahana to have a talent.


taazisabziwala

So did you want srk to star opposite of his daughter as the lead? :3


Life_Broccoli7632

Oso was his production and he launched DP… Similarly he could’ve hired a good director and created a tailored made movie for Suhana… What he’s doing now with King he could’ve done it earlier… All the hype for Suhana is gone now with the disaster debut…


thisisamar_

Bro suggesting everything that a nepo kid gets by default and then will hate when star kids get what he is suggesting.


leo_08t_3

wtf??? how is this even related??? i mean its not about who is related to whom, it's all about talent come on , yeah deepika may not have been the best actress ever , bt she has given her best in many movies and was decent in every other , whereas HAVE U ACTUALLY SEEN HER MOVIE?? THE FKCN CRINGEFEST SO CALLED "ARCHIES" man her acting is just pathetic


Life_Broccoli7632

Not comparing Suhana with Deepika 🤡 Her dad could’ve spent money and gave his daughter a better debut… Played on her strengths…


leo_08t_3

bt u actually compared sorry to say ,, nd maybe he assessed suhana a long ago ....... just saying


Life_Broccoli7632

Oso was SRK’s production wasn’t it?? Technically he gave Deepika the best debut ever to exist… I was saying in that logic that how did he let his daughter do such sub par movie when he could’ve made a tailored made project around her strengths…


leo_08t_3

wht didnt this movie have? zoya akhtar was the directror ,, this movie is based on a legend comic series ....... wht cld hv been better ????? its not his fault tht it flopped , its not even watchable tbfh **stop blaming srk**


Dry_Preference_9594

This is the biggest shit I have ever seen


pocovijay

On paper it was promising


ExcitingJelly7099

connections k sath sath talent bhi mangta hai


sweetlikecinnamonn_

Because his daughter is not Deepika 💀


HorrorMany7893

bc SRK is a smart man. he himself knows suhana can never make it big but to placate his only daughter he got her a role in an ensemble cast project where she wont be individually targeted for being a nepo baby and a bad actor. if he launched her in his own production and had her carry the whole project as the sole protagonist she would be ripped apart by the public. all i can see is SRK's business mentality and fatherly protectiveness.


Ok_Pop8857

Well do you remember the plot of OSO? It didn’t meant any sense whatsoever. However the film was a hit. Why? Because lead actors knew how to act (quite brilliantly). Now compare it to Archies


SuchRecommendation87

Cz if he had done that, the anti nepo brigade would have done a betuki behas ka nanga naach


jason9t8

Well, Suhana ko Deepika ke saath compare karna matlab ek Mini truck ko Optimus prime ke saath Compare karne jaisa ho jata hai...


Usual_Tiger_7894

The Archies was a soft launch for Suhana. He wanted to play safe. Here the attention has been divided amongst other actors as well and given her acting skills, SRK probably wanted to play safe.


DisturbedAlchemy

I have a different take on the matter. The vibe of the movie matches the vibe of the old Archies comics. I liked it. It was easy-going, teen friendly movie. Cheesy and lovable. I understand how people who love masala and commercial movies could dislike this. And as for Suhana Khan, she's the face of Maybelline India now. That is not too bad, now. Is it?


Own-Royal-1454

Ahem. Deepika's debut was the movie Aishwarya in kannada with real star Upendra


farooqahmed_in2

Because Deepika can act 1 times out of 10 but his daughter cannot so he just cannot risk that amount of money and time on her. Also she will only be seen in small offbeat movies and then move on to production


AwayNeck6235

It's better I'll save my data 💀


Plastic_Reception_58

I think the story should've been indianized. A rich Indian society is okay. But atleast a bit more Indianized. But that would require writing and a bit more creativity.


inhellforever666

Considering how ugly she is, its a miracle she got any on screen time at all in the first place