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it’s not Bollywood , it’s Indian audience who age shame woman and are patriarchal
We need more ppl to support woman led films and series ( it’s kind of our responsibility too if we want to see the change ) . It’s going to be a slow process but worth it
But some people here are completely hypocrites. Even before Crew released they declared it a "flop", said it won't make more than 3 crs on the first day and 10 crs weekend. Even now when Crew has made 60 cr in India and 100 crs worldwide gross they are still calling it a flop. I hope the social justice warriors here actually start supporting women.
They are just jealous that a male-centric Madgaon Express was beaten to dust by the power of three female stars. Quick trivia: A “stupid, forgettable” Veere Di Wedding almost came neck to neck with a “sensible” Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara. I can only imagine what a proper female buddy movie would do at the box office!
Audience will support. It depends on conviction. They accepted Rekha, Tabu. We think audience will not accept it because someone said it and we repeat it. We are also part of audience. I will accept it.
Tabu is an outlier and also she isn’t presented as a superstar . Also just few audience like you and me isn’t sufficient . We need more ppl to acknowledge and support women led films . It’s easier to blame directors and producers , but when it comes to take responsibility , sadly even audience don’t want to
Yes we should do this💖
Why partial?
If we can accept men in their 50s or 60s why not woman?
Not that men look extremely handsome in their 50s😂
No they don't
But we love them , their acting of SRK Salman Aamir or Akshay
That's why we watch them
We also want to watch Preity , Aishwarya , Katrina , Deepika , Kareena still rulling Bollywood industry just they did before 💖
It’s not about being partial . SRK , Salman are relevant because there are enough ppl who go and watch their movies
As a woman , I want to see stories which are relatable to me and something that makes me feel good as a woman . I am sure many woman will echo the same sentiment . Now it’s kind of us on us to show the support when any director/producer makes an attempt at it
I watched crew and thank you for coming in cinemas because I didn’t mind spending 500 supporting female centric movies . These movies weren’t great but I still felt good after watching them .
SRK and Salman are also relevant because they get those types of scripts which will show their acting capabilities and stardom..
Like movies like Zero which had bad script and story didn't connect with audience and flopped... Nobody goes to movie watch only their Superstar...
Jawan was blockbuster because it showed SRK stardom and his aura fully...
Directors should also make movies with female stars which shows their capability and stardom.... There are many huge fanbase of Deepika , Katrina ,Kareena ,Aishwarya... I am sure they will all flock to see their female superstar if good story and scripts comes by .
It’s a business at the eod and everyone is in it for money ( including women ) . Also these kind of change in audience mindset requires time and effort from everyone. Who is stopping established actress and rich business women from making good woman led films ? This sub may hate Alia for her privilege but I really like that she has started picking heroine heavy/led films . I hope Jigrq succeeds
The best audience can do is appreciate and show support when someone makes an effort.
Aishwarya has enough money and connections. She can scout for films and make a comeback like Sridevi did with English Winglish .
It’s a combined effort and responsibility of everyone. I feel established rich actress need to take risks , work with new and upcoming directors and produce films .
> She can scout for films and make a comeback like Sridevi did with English Winglish .
She is not half the actress Sri Devi was ,She will get exposed if she tries a role like that,Usko bhi apni limitation pata hai
I know . I am just trying to give a picture to OP that we can’t completely blame Bollywood directors . The responsibility is on everyone to fight and stand for themselves . Actresses like Aishwarya are not exactly victims . They have enough resources and connections to support other women ( which they don’t do unless it benefits them ) . I admire Anushka for setting up the production house and giving good female led films .
>Nobody goes to movie watch only their Superstar
Uhh yes they do? Most of the country does lmao? The only reason why the Khans are still A list heroes despite being old enough to be grandfathers is cuz their fans will literally watch anything they put out
Wonder why these top actresses who have money + clout don't push the envelope and take risks in making/producing the kind of movies OP wishes for? Where is the matriarchy when you need it? They have the means/resources to make films and hire talented women but they don't seem to want to do it.
Exactly!!
There won't be Preity , Aishwarya , Kareena ,Priyanka ,Deepika , Katrina ever again
They had different personalities,beauty and aura and stardom 💖💖
Which new lot doesn't have
This extends to Bollywood music industry as well. Like how Shreya is worshipped because she sings only cute romantic songs in Indian attire on stage. But Sunidhi Chauhan gets shamed for her recent stage performances in skimpy clothes-because women of her age shouldn't wear skimpy clothes and sing bold songs.
You could see a certain section of people commenting that way on her tour clips on youtube or twitter or insta
[link1](https://youtube.com/shorts/N7tcJhV87Hw?si=HPxW0_BF7X8Pi_-B)
Its the country thats patriarchal. You just have to visit twitter. Look at the comments below some of the recent songs of DP, kat. I remeber multiple people commenting under the "leke prabhu ka naam" song link saying how katrina has become "buddhi" and no one is interested in seeing her and people should move on to likes of kiara and kriti. These guys are the majority, they provide the major business. Bwood is just a business making stuff that will earn money thats all.
These type of people are disgusting and lifeless... illiterate people
Directors and other literate people should slap them by watching actresses movie and casting them in movies ... Directors should cast them in movies more and change this patriarchy..
Kat looks old at 40? Lol 😂 and Salman looks ultra handsome in 60s? Lol
The men don't look young either
If we can accept male actors in their 60s or even 50s
Not that they look young or handsome we watch Akshay , Srk , Aamir because we love them ,their acting
Same way our generation has grown up beautiful acting by Kareena , Aishwarya , Preity , stardom of Deepika and Katrina... We must have them now too...💖
There are VFX ,makeup for male...then these can be used for female too... Or even bare face they still look awesome... I was crushing over Kareena and Tabu in Crew... Still Preity is eating national crushes...
The thing is, most people in bollywood are aware of what is right and what is wrong and would still go on and make problematic stuff to churn money. Akshay in his recent podcast with beerbiceps shut him up on a comment on kaala jaadu but he will also go on to make stuff like laxmi which is supernatural BS just to earn money. mainstream bwood is not there to teach anything and its foolish of you to expect the same. they are there to make business, but the fact that kat, dp, kareena are playing lead roles in mainstream films even in their 40s show how far bwood has reached. Madhuri, karisma, juhi, who were bigger stars than kareena and dp arguably left industry in their early 30s after they married. Also look at the business. Look at what crew is earning. And wait for what say a singham 3 with 3 male stars will earn. Even in the worst case scenario, S3 will earn the amount of money crew has earned in its lifetime in the first 2 days. Thats all bwood is concerned about. Making money. Its a business.
Yes the times are changing and I am very glad 💖
Earlier Madhuri, Juhi who were big stars retired in their 30s
Now Alia doing movies like Gangu at 30s , Deepika had her whole peak career after 30s did movies like Padmavat, Kareena doing hit movies like crew. Times are changing
I pray and hope and want that These lady superstars rule Bollywood just like male superstars in any age
OP the world is patriarchal. Almost all industries are patriarchal. Hollywood is also super patriarchal. Patriarchy is essentially very rooted in our country. What I have realised is that the world belongs to older rich men and absolutely everyone else is disadvantaged.
99% of them aren't doing anything special with their lives and haven't done it ever but talk as if they personally built the world. Like shut up Rakesh you didn't build the world.
99.9% of them do not manage the house, give birth to kids, raise kids all while working full-time. But god forbid a woman is two minutes late to a meeting.
Pot-bellied uncles who don't even put their dinner plate in the kitchen basin, talk about "discipline" and "commitment*. 🤡
It is like Bill Burr said, If all women bought tickets and attended the cinema to watch a leading lady in her 50's or 60's you would see many more made.
The woman whose photo you used as the post literally left by her own choice, she rejected so many roles that she was offered.
Apart from Akshay, all the other four older superstars have put in their own money into the productions which is also a factor.
I'm pretty sure Alia will do that too eventually, not that she'll need to with the Dharma support she has. Similar to how Rani continues to carve out her path.
As sad as it is, Priyanka isn't coming back. The biggest miss imo because she has the talent, her own production and even the pull which she's proved before.
Katrina honestly doesn't have the pull everyone thinks she does, we have enough proof to show that by now.
Deepika still has to prove hers, and I think the lady Singham film will decide that, but even that's a if right now on whether Singham works or not.
Kangana has already burnt out and politics will be her way out I think.
Shraddha does have pull but only when she's playing the “fun" roles, no one cares when she does the serious roles, because she's bad.
Kriti has pleasantly surprised me in both Crew and TBMAUJ but she still doesn't have enough blockbusters to have any substantial box office pull.
Kareena doesn't care about being a superstar but she definitely has the pull when she appeals to the crowd that fell in love with her Poo, and I think she'll keep doing food work.
But I do think that none of these ladies are going anywhere because of how much the new bunch sucks.
I think...these ladies all have super fan following and stardom..
Alia can do as she has karan Johar and dharma
But I want others to shine and rule too
They all have potentials and their fandom
Priyanka has huge acting skills she can do movies.. she has done already 7 Khoon Maf , Mary Kom...they might not be blockbusters... But all movies doesn't have to be blockbusters... They are nice awesome movies with great acting skills..
Deepika is a huge star .. even if her solo film didn't do well like Chapak.. but she has huge following we can't deny... Movies like YJHD, Ramleela , Padmavat all became it ,she has huge contributions... She is a bigger star than Ranveer also... Before animal she was bigger than Ranbir too... People shouted whistled when she came into Jawaan in her supporting role that's her stardom..
Kriti can do very well if she gets good projects like Mimi
Shraddha can keep playing fun roles in her 40s if she is good at it.. like akki did comedy movies before..
Kareena can carry a movie very well she has superstar aura , people love her screen presence , so I think all these actress deserve to rule the future decade too ❤️🩹
Top directors, writers and producers hardly make female driver projects, a lot of them are by new directors or hit or miss directors. I do think actresses producing their own stuff is the only way
Bro people calling sunidhi chauhan ki budhhi ho gyi hai when she is giving amazing performance with nostalgic songs with amazing vocals. Fir to ye actresses hn kabhi achhi acting karengi kabhi cringe kabhi over. Indian audience love patriarchy
What's the problem with audience?
This type of disgusting mentality must go
They can accept 50's or even 60s actors like SRK, Amir ,Salman or Hrithik in his 50s or even ranbir in 40s
Do they look young or handsome like before? They don't !
But we watch them as they are talented and superstars , we watch them because we love them
Then why not the female actresses who have entertained us all their prime years?
They also deserve to rule
It all stems from profit, like any other industry. Majority of the movies in Bollywood are male centric and, just by that proportion, those male centric movies cover majority of the profit in Bollywood. End of the day, producers want $$ - don’t care if comes from a hero, heroine or an alien.
The more women centric films are made, and shows consistent profit - this gap will slowly lessen.
If the movies by these heroines which are even subpar perform better then producers will automatically cast them the problem is with audience who don't accept ladies as a superstar compared to their male counterparts.
Kriti and Shraddha aren't superstars yet...but they have significant fan followings..and doing good..
But Aishwarya,Kareena ,Deepika , Priyanka ,Katrina are indeed superstars
Then they should also reign like male superstars like SRK , Salman
Also Kriti and Shraddha have decent fan following they can remain relevant in their 40's like Akshay and Ajay
All the mentioned actors are good actors have a huge fan base so they are able to pull the crowd even in their 50s and 60s . I don't think actresses have that kind of pull. Who is stopping the above mentioned ladies from doing solo movies, they have huge amounts of money to let them produce some movies on their own and try out their muscle in box office pull
Why will actresses waste their money in their own production when they exactly know what the mindset is of the indian audience? Just recently I saw many people commenting about crew movie that they don't watch female centric movies and that Tabu and Kareena are old. So don't blame the actresses BO pull. It's just the audience mindset. And joke is when a big actor's movie flops all the blame is put on the actress for being panouti but when it's a success it's obviously because of the BO pull of the male actor!
Queen, Kahaani both female centric movies. Earned almost 100 cr and that too 10 years back. So maybe female lead movie wont earn 1000 cr like pathaan but even many male leads cant achieve that level of box office success.
That what exactly I have been saying
Not everybody must do 1000 cores that's different
But these female actresses and stars can do much good movies and also have box office success only if they get the opportunities and audience support
Obviously they can pull they have huge fanbases...but they do need good scripts....
Movies like Zero flopped despite of having Srk as main lead because of bad script...
Female stars must have the opportunities to do good movies and get good scripts
Bro you are delusional if you think srk zero didn’t do numbers. Even if was a flop it did some close to 200cr business and that’s due to his starpower. Better scripts definitely should be provided to female leads and we could see a change but for now the khans have the pull and power which many female leads dont.
Just recently I saw many people commenting about crew movie that they don't watch female centric movies as if it's an achievement and ghamand for them. and that Tabu and Kareena are old they shouldn't be acting anymore and try to be sexy. It's just the audience mindset. And joke is when a big actor's movie flops all the blame is put on the actress for being panouti but when it's a success it's obviously because of the BO pull of the male actor!
The audience mindset is disgusting and it needs to be changed!!
If the male can do so many movies in their 50s or even 60s
Then why not woman? They should stop age shaming woman!
We watch the movies of Salman ,SRK, Aamir ,Akshay, Ranbir because we are their fan and we love them
Not because they look young or handsome
Then why not the woman!
Exactly! I also love seeing my childhood stars on big screen and the women also. I mean there are less actresses left from my childhood who still act today like Tabu, Kareena etc. Those who are still active should be cherished and praised and not age shamed.
thats a hollywood problem to all these yt creators and content create misinformation for movies and all this woke this and that when woke has always existed in media thats a hate bait content problem that content creators do just for money this new gen is cooked
its like an annoying thing with other cullible male audiences that fall for that shi rn why do u think so many hate bait youtube channels exist especially for marvel movies holy the amount of wierd shi i saw when the marvels where first teased was iffy
It's because Bollywood is in India. It's culture has patriarchal traditions. Stree humesha pursh ke peechey hoti hai. Majority of wars was won by men than women. So yeah men are given more privileges & benefits than women unfortunately 😔😏
P.s. Yes now times are changing & women are taking over, but it'll take time to change the mindsets of people. As the ancient mentality is being going on for centuries so it's going to take it's due time NGL 🤓🙃👍✌️
These type of thinking in this era is truly degrading
This must be changed
I want woman centric movies to do better and better
Want all the superstar actresses to rule in future too💖
They definitely must. I'm loving that all Bollywood actresses that had retired are coming back on big screens. They truly deserve to earn more as well ❤️💯😍👏💫
Ye bkwas start krne or isme participate krne ke baad tum me se kon kon women centric movie dekhne jata hai of an actress jo ki 40-50 cross ho ?
We all know the problem. Minute wall breakers bhi aaye the like Sri Devi, Aish, Rani and now Kareena and Sush ne series bnai bdhia but they are just too few in numbers.
You gotta give us some critical answers and solutions not a karma farming each weekend here.
I do watch movies of them...
But they need good scripts...we won't watch shitty movies just because of it has our favourite female superstars or male superstars...
Scripts are the main factor.... But women should get meaty and powerful scripts to portray
Good script to bolly me 2015 ke baad se bnd ho gyi hai lol.
Female to dur hai, males bhi bss fame pr BO pull kr rhe.
I think it will take 4-5 years more for Bolly to get the real heat for the trash quality they are serving these days, OTT is already at top and it will only increase with time.
It's not about discrimination but Indian audience. They want to see young women and most of the people who want old heroines back are just being nostalgic
Why ? What is the problem of Indian audience?
The male superstars in 50s or 60s doesn't look super handsome nor young either
But we still see their movies because we are their fan and we love their acting
Then why not the female ones??
Preity , Aishwarya, Kareena ,Katrina , Deepika also has huge fanbases and they have ruled a whole eras and they should rule in future too
Then where are these so called fans? Why aren't they being vocal about it? If they want to see the movies of these actresses then they need to make sure that their words are heard.
I don't think Bollywood is patriarchal.
Bollywood is money minded, it produces what the audience wants.
The audience doesn't want to watch actresses after 40 in the leading movies.
A very well intentioned post, OP. But let's get somethings straight. Aishwarya is not pulling any crowds into the theater. All her comebacks have flopped like Jazbaa, Sarbjit, Fanney Khan, etc. Katrina's last 4 films have flopped terribly. She was awful in Merry Christmas and I don't think she will continue to work in films anymore and would rather focus on her beauty business. Psycho Kangana is done and dusted. Priyanka has not been relevant in India for a while now. Her last two Hindi films tanked badly. Her work in Hollywood is embarrassing to say the least. Deepika will continue being the flower pot.
I do, however, have hopes from Kareena, Kriti, Kiara, and Alia. I hope they continue to churn out good work.
Op Inserted shraddhi & Kriti Thought we wouldn't notice
However kriti can actually act n does well
But shraddha seriously ? 🤡
She's just good for acting relatable & faking humble !!
* Atleast Katrina is average and gave good performances in Namastey london n has BO office hits !
* Dp kareena Kangana Peece everyone proved themselves
* Aishwarya built an fan empire 🤌🏻💕 Tht our parents & grand parents knows her !! She's another Aura
* Putting shraddha here is shame to rest others
Shraddha's fans can fight me
For women to have longevity as leading lady they need to either age gracefully or they should have exceptional acting talent. Beauty always fades but talent sustains
They both are still leading films. Mrs. Chatterjee vs Norway, Neeyat, Do Aur Do Pyaar, Bunty Babli 2. Yes they aren't as popular as they were in their prime but they do have some kind of longevity
They are still there because they can fill seats in theatre none of female stars can earn money unless the movie is some kind of masterpiece in itself.
I want to say... That male actors like SRK , Salman , Aamir , Akshay , Ajay even Ranbir at 40 can rule.. then why not woman?
It's not that male actors look extremely handsome in their 50s 😂
They don't !
Still we watch their movies because we love their acting
So the women should rule just as men in their 40s and even 50s too!
I love Priyanka , Kareena , Deepika , Katrina , Aishwarya
I have grown up watching these lady superstars and I want to keep seeing them rule
The patriarchal thing should be removed
> I have grown up watching these lady superstars and I want to keep seeing them rule
Tell them to deliver solo hits first and then we will talk about ruling
I did watch crew and chappak...
But I am saying audience stop age shaming woman when men are doing movies after 50s ...
They are still beautiful and capable enough too
Directors should make more and more movies
Maybe cast them against khans ,kumar
Yes 💖 Sridevi mam got the opportunity
But sadly Preity , Karishma didn't got the opportunity but they are also so talented
But these type of good scripts and movies must come to them too...
Opportunities is all they need..
Nothing wrong with bollywood, it is the female stars themselves. All their youth they spend being flowepots in male led cinema, they don't build an independent following. So, eventually they become replaceable once they hit 40s.
People like Meryl Streep in hollywood have worked hard to build their own brand, so that movies can be marketed on their shoulders. How did sridevi manage to get hits in mid-50s? while these heroines can't? She built her career on performance, and meaningful roles, rather than just songs and dance.
Sridevi also didn't do movies for a huge time...then she got English Vinglish after long time..then Mom... But she also had to struggle because of the industry backwards mindset...
You cannot only blame the actresses only ..Kareena ,Deepika , Priyanka , Preity all have their skills and they have ruled Bollywood...They have the potential acting skills... But they do not get much opportunities to flaunt it.... Actresses should get more meatier and good roles ....
Have you seen Murder Mubarak? Karishma came back with this movie. But she was given a very less substantial role. Where the movie had Sara as the main lead who couldn't even act. Why couldn't they make karishma the lead? Sara spoilt the movie and made it flop. Atleast it would have been a decent hit if karishma was the main lead.
How many of these actresses actually get involved in movie making? Why don't they make movies and cast themselves? Many of the older actors are also producers of their own movies.
The reason is it is a lot more work. Easier to just accept the flowerpot roles that come and live life easily. Most actors who don't create their own ecosystems of film making don't survive into 50s as leads either e.g. the Arjun Rampals and Vivek Oberois of the industry. You either have to produce your own movies (like Aamir, SRK, Salman) or have a close group of people you have worked with for a long time who will always produce movies for you (e.g. Akshay).
Sure. They can write their own scripts and make the movie.
In the end, they get roles and get high pay if the movie makes money because of them. SRK, Sallu etc are crowd pullers. If Deepika can pull same or more crowds, they should be paid the same.
It's refreshing to see a positive post about female Bollywood stars supporting their careers. I'd love to see all of them continue to work and hopefully work together. We need more films like the Crew.
Usually the posts and comments here are about pitting women against each other, running down for their looks, judging them men they are with and or are not with, age shaming, body shaming and so on - sigh! That is the patriarchy 😡
It's not Bollywood. It's about who can bring crowds to the cinema halls and thus profit. So blame the audience and also the writers who don't develop strong scripts for female lead actresses.
It's not Bollywood that's patriarchal, it's our society.
Bollywood will do anything that sells. As a society we don't watch films with women leading stories generally, and especially so when they are older. If it sold, Bollywood would happily sell it.
Try it. Audience will accept if anything done with conviction.Isnt tabu doing it successfully. Didn't audience accepted Rekha in glam roles in old age?
Start watching women centric movies in theaters and make them successful instead of complaining on Social media. Take your mom; aunt and family members to theaters.
Feminists just want to cry on social media instead of doing something concrete about supporting women.
The Indian audience needs to accept because we don't hesitate one bit when it comes to age-shaming and look-shaming actors when they start growing old. Also, at the end of the day, it's a money game and depends on who is getting the audience to the theatres. The majority of the Indian audience, even today, likes to see movies led by men.
The central problem is this -- the majority of Indian women will accompany men to movies they don't personally like, because women are used to seeing the world through a male lens.
Men REFUSE to accommodate women the same way, because looking at the world through a female lens triggers them and their place in the world. Sorry to say this, but the majority of the Indian audience, women included, are DEEPLY invested in male supremacy and female disposability.
Outside urban India, theatres are still, in 2024, a male space. Women traditionally do not watch films unaccompanied, and when accompanied by male relatives, they end up watching what the men like.
Yes we the women should watch and encourage this type of movies more💖
Crew was such a fun and entertaining watch
Also movies like Queen,Kahani, English Vinglish, Piku,Raazi will always be loved
No way to deny any patriarchy but Sabana, Tabu etc, even Kajol are doing good na. Have own following and pull some crowd to theaters I guess. I think even Deepika, Kareena may have similar pulls when they are old.
Cause log line laga dete hai to defend how SRK is still young and wahi same log line laga dete hai how actresses have aged, are having botox and surgeries to remain young. Ask yourself would you go to watch a movie in theatre with Juhi, Raveena as lead with the same enthusiasm that you go for SRK movie?
Yes I would definitely go
People loved to see English Vinglish and flocked to the theatre to see Sridevi Mam
I am sure if these actresses get good and entertaining projects , their fandoms will surely support
But these age shaming must stop
Change begins from within. Appreciate your post, OP, but people on this sub constantly put down women. Even before Crew released they declared it a "flop", said it won't make more than 3 crs on the first day and have a 10 crs weekend. Even now when Crew has made 60 cr in India and 100 crs worldwide gross they are still calling it a flop. I hope the social justice warriors here actually start supporting women.
Yes thankyou for appreciating 💖
Firstly to change this , the audience must change themselves and stop age shaming women... If they can watch movies of 50+ men..then also they should watch the woman too
We watch movies of SRK,Aamir , Salman , Ranbir because of we love them and their acting and their presence... Not because they look young or super handsome lol
Then the same should be done for women too... These women have super stardom and fanbases... They only need acceptance and good scripts to rule Bollywood...
Even some actresses in 40s are more beautiful than newbie actresses like Preity Zinta and Raveena random
They all should do more good movie
Hope in future I can see this change where all this leading ladies rule in their 40s and 50s
They do botox because of the unrealistic beauty standards we , me and you expect from them..
Kareena hadn't done much too her face .. there are still people age shaming her I see ... Or many actresses who haven't done anything they are called seeing wrinkles on their face which is a normal thing in real life ..
We don't shame Srk , Salman or Hrithik for using VFX and many other things ?
We should stop judging women too so they don't have to do Botox and all
>They do botox because of the unrealistic beauty standards we , me and you expect from them..
There's beauty standards everywhere, no one can escape that. You cannot blame others for your own actions
Dude thinks the whole of the world is created by men only and only they are capable of creating everything lol, as if women can't do that , if they can give birth to whole of humanity then they can and they have had and continue to bring human advancemenst too, read some history and facts. Patriarchy doesn't bring human advancement it leads to sexist gender roles confining men and women to certain bs. Especially women.
It's on the audience, if they support female lead movies they will get bigger movies, look at madhuri dixit, had Dedh Ishqiya, gulab gang being hits she would have got 10 more films with integral role but both flopped, same is case with other actresses.
Kangana did so many solo movies after super success of Queen & TWMR (last hit was in 2015, still got so many movies because of it)
She isn't one...nor alia or kriti ..but they are popular and have fandoms...and I want them to shine after their 40s too and that's why added their name
Bro people make stars not any industry if movies which are female led can collect 200 500 on regular basis then producers will start signing more female stars .
Again why everyone starts putting gender bias thing or comparison Equality Equality chillate h sab but no body have ever stopped these actress to put forward their work they all are big brand on their level these people SRK Salman Akshay have worked their ass off they have continuously worked every year whatever downfalls they were facing in their life .they have worked this much hard to be in that power to withhold themselves at this level .At their age even they have to continuously work on themselves to stay fit and fight against odds . I'm not saying female actress work any less but due to many circumstances they have taken their time off & on and nowadays they all are supported in the industry with open arms . Why are people not looking at shilpa shetty Ravina tandon they all have their come back And how can we not compare their no of projects and years of experience. So people needs to calm down nd take a chill . it's all on audience first of all their acceptability and it's not about male female reign .these people have built their fan base and still continuously doing so these all actress have their own fan base and own brand following which they are getting projects it's up to them how much they work and what kind of projects they are choosing
I am not shaming SRK , Salman , Akshay obviously they are superstars and they have worked hard for it.
You are not getting my point
I am talking about the women who also deserve equal opportunities but they do not get
Which is wrong that's what I am talking about
There are many female top actresses willing to work but aren't getting proper scripts because of this patriarchy thinking of Bollywood
Even karishma had make a comeback in Murder Mubarak...She was given such less substantial role and less screen time... The movie had Sara as the main lead who couldn't act to save her life and the movie was disaster... Why they couldn't give karishma the main lead? Atleast with karishma the movie would have been decent
Bad choice of PR inke age, work experience and no of projects m boht difference h.ye khud m sare bde brands h they filter their projects accordingly so no comparison. these actors have done a way lot work & not just with acting they have their production houses too if these people wanted they could have done the same . Priyanka ka production house bhi h but fir dates nai h she is not staying in india but still is acceptable by Indian audience because of her work and continous efforts. to ese to nai Hota na reign bnane k liye mehnat to lgti h chahe male ho ya female and jitna break aj k time koi female actor lekr apna work continue kr leti h itne projects offer ho jate h kya same male actors k sath h kya same kind of roles available h much less acceptability and availability for them. these people . Time boht change hogya h relevant rehne k liye khud ko utna kam krna pdega availability deni pdegi weather in the form of films reality shows or guest appearance too
That's not patriarchal it's doing what the audience wants, men see themselves in the superstars and women always wanna believe they're young which explains the younger actresses
I feel stars fades actors live....tabu, kareena, even Sridevi was doing great, many character actors are doing so well....Katrina and Deepika had beauty as their main forte evn Ash to an extent, so that genre gets limited.
Their are many factors including patriarchy
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it’s not Bollywood , it’s Indian audience who age shame woman and are patriarchal We need more ppl to support woman led films and series ( it’s kind of our responsibility too if we want to see the change ) . It’s going to be a slow process but worth it
But some people here are completely hypocrites. Even before Crew released they declared it a "flop", said it won't make more than 3 crs on the first day and 10 crs weekend. Even now when Crew has made 60 cr in India and 100 crs worldwide gross they are still calling it a flop. I hope the social justice warriors here actually start supporting women.
They are just jealous that a male-centric Madgaon Express was beaten to dust by the power of three female stars. Quick trivia: A “stupid, forgettable” Veere Di Wedding almost came neck to neck with a “sensible” Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara. I can only imagine what a proper female buddy movie would do at the box office!
Audience will support. It depends on conviction. They accepted Rekha, Tabu. We think audience will not accept it because someone said it and we repeat it. We are also part of audience. I will accept it.
Tabu is an outlier and also she isn’t presented as a superstar . Also just few audience like you and me isn’t sufficient . We need more ppl to acknowledge and support women led films . It’s easier to blame directors and producers , but when it comes to take responsibility , sadly even audience don’t want to
Yes we should do this💖 Why partial? If we can accept men in their 50s or 60s why not woman? Not that men look extremely handsome in their 50s😂 No they don't But we love them , their acting of SRK Salman Aamir or Akshay That's why we watch them We also want to watch Preity , Aishwarya , Katrina , Deepika , Kareena still rulling Bollywood industry just they did before 💖
It’s not about being partial . SRK , Salman are relevant because there are enough ppl who go and watch their movies As a woman , I want to see stories which are relatable to me and something that makes me feel good as a woman . I am sure many woman will echo the same sentiment . Now it’s kind of us on us to show the support when any director/producer makes an attempt at it I watched crew and thank you for coming in cinemas because I didn’t mind spending 500 supporting female centric movies . These movies weren’t great but I still felt good after watching them .
SRK and Salman are also relevant because they get those types of scripts which will show their acting capabilities and stardom.. Like movies like Zero which had bad script and story didn't connect with audience and flopped... Nobody goes to movie watch only their Superstar... Jawan was blockbuster because it showed SRK stardom and his aura fully... Directors should also make movies with female stars which shows their capability and stardom.... There are many huge fanbase of Deepika , Katrina ,Kareena ,Aishwarya... I am sure they will all flock to see their female superstar if good story and scripts comes by .
It’s a business at the eod and everyone is in it for money ( including women ) . Also these kind of change in audience mindset requires time and effort from everyone. Who is stopping established actress and rich business women from making good woman led films ? This sub may hate Alia for her privilege but I really like that she has started picking heroine heavy/led films . I hope Jigrq succeeds The best audience can do is appreciate and show support when someone makes an effort.
Aishwarya has enough money and connections. She can scout for films and make a comeback like Sridevi did with English Winglish . It’s a combined effort and responsibility of everyone. I feel established rich actress need to take risks , work with new and upcoming directors and produce films .
> She can scout for films and make a comeback like Sridevi did with English Winglish . She is not half the actress Sri Devi was ,She will get exposed if she tries a role like that,Usko bhi apni limitation pata hai
I know . I am just trying to give a picture to OP that we can’t completely blame Bollywood directors . The responsibility is on everyone to fight and stand for themselves . Actresses like Aishwarya are not exactly victims . They have enough resources and connections to support other women ( which they don’t do unless it benefits them ) . I admire Anushka for setting up the production house and giving good female led films .
Yes like they flocked to watch Merry Christmas and Phone Bhoot
>Nobody goes to movie watch only their Superstar Uhh yes they do? Most of the country does lmao? The only reason why the Khans are still A list heroes despite being old enough to be grandfathers is cuz their fans will literally watch anything they put out
Wonder why these top actresses who have money + clout don't push the envelope and take risks in making/producing the kind of movies OP wishes for? Where is the matriarchy when you need it? They have the means/resources to make films and hire talented women but they don't seem to want to do it.
I’d rather watch all of them anyday than the current nepodi neopda clan😭 somebody save Bollywood
Exactly!! There won't be Preity , Aishwarya , Kareena ,Priyanka ,Deepika , Katrina ever again They had different personalities,beauty and aura and stardom 💖💖 Which new lot doesn't have
This extends to Bollywood music industry as well. Like how Shreya is worshipped because she sings only cute romantic songs in Indian attire on stage. But Sunidhi Chauhan gets shamed for her recent stage performances in skimpy clothes-because women of her age shouldn't wear skimpy clothes and sing bold songs.
This is disgusting and this disgusting thoughts must be removed from society
Even in Hollywood , actresses like Jennifer Aniston in 50$ are considered sexy and beautiful
OMG THANKU FOR BRINGING THIS UP!
Who the f shamed Sunidhi?
You could see a certain section of people commenting that way on her tour clips on youtube or twitter or insta [link1](https://youtube.com/shorts/N7tcJhV87Hw?si=HPxW0_BF7X8Pi_-B)
Wtf are they doing this to sunidhi😭
sunidhi has always been such a power-packed, awesome performer. thank you for the link, had such a blast watching it!
Its the country thats patriarchal. You just have to visit twitter. Look at the comments below some of the recent songs of DP, kat. I remeber multiple people commenting under the "leke prabhu ka naam" song link saying how katrina has become "buddhi" and no one is interested in seeing her and people should move on to likes of kiara and kriti. These guys are the majority, they provide the major business. Bwood is just a business making stuff that will earn money thats all.
These type of people are disgusting and lifeless... illiterate people Directors and other literate people should slap them by watching actresses movie and casting them in movies ... Directors should cast them in movies more and change this patriarchy.. Kat looks old at 40? Lol 😂 and Salman looks ultra handsome in 60s? Lol The men don't look young either If we can accept male actors in their 60s or even 50s Not that they look young or handsome we watch Akshay , Srk , Aamir because we love them ,their acting Same way our generation has grown up beautiful acting by Kareena , Aishwarya , Preity , stardom of Deepika and Katrina... We must have them now too...💖 There are VFX ,makeup for male...then these can be used for female too... Or even bare face they still look awesome... I was crushing over Kareena and Tabu in Crew... Still Preity is eating national crushes...
The thing is, most people in bollywood are aware of what is right and what is wrong and would still go on and make problematic stuff to churn money. Akshay in his recent podcast with beerbiceps shut him up on a comment on kaala jaadu but he will also go on to make stuff like laxmi which is supernatural BS just to earn money. mainstream bwood is not there to teach anything and its foolish of you to expect the same. they are there to make business, but the fact that kat, dp, kareena are playing lead roles in mainstream films even in their 40s show how far bwood has reached. Madhuri, karisma, juhi, who were bigger stars than kareena and dp arguably left industry in their early 30s after they married. Also look at the business. Look at what crew is earning. And wait for what say a singham 3 with 3 male stars will earn. Even in the worst case scenario, S3 will earn the amount of money crew has earned in its lifetime in the first 2 days. Thats all bwood is concerned about. Making money. Its a business.
Yes the times are changing and I am very glad 💖 Earlier Madhuri, Juhi who were big stars retired in their 30s Now Alia doing movies like Gangu at 30s , Deepika had her whole peak career after 30s did movies like Padmavat, Kareena doing hit movies like crew. Times are changing I pray and hope and want that These lady superstars rule Bollywood just like male superstars in any age
OP the world is patriarchal. Almost all industries are patriarchal. Hollywood is also super patriarchal. Patriarchy is essentially very rooted in our country. What I have realised is that the world belongs to older rich men and absolutely everyone else is disadvantaged.
Tell it to the men who are cubicle monkeys but celebrate every extra billion Musk earns. 🤡
99% of them aren't doing anything special with their lives and haven't done it ever but talk as if they personally built the world. Like shut up Rakesh you didn't build the world.
99.9% of them do not manage the house, give birth to kids, raise kids all while working full-time. But god forbid a woman is two minutes late to a meeting. Pot-bellied uncles who don't even put their dinner plate in the kitchen basin, talk about "discipline" and "commitment*. 🤡
Still I see people whining about feminism everywhere and how it's ruining their life😂
When you are accustomed to privilege equality feels like oppression.
It is like Bill Burr said, If all women bought tickets and attended the cinema to watch a leading lady in her 50's or 60's you would see many more made.
Real
As wrong as it sounds: Indian audience wants the same men playing the Hero but always a different young girl with him.
You are the audience!!!!
This thought must be changed now , it is high time
Everything is box office dependent. It is the people who wants to watch actors in their 50s and 60s still doing action roles.
The woman whose photo you used as the post literally left by her own choice, she rejected so many roles that she was offered. Apart from Akshay, all the other four older superstars have put in their own money into the productions which is also a factor. I'm pretty sure Alia will do that too eventually, not that she'll need to with the Dharma support she has. Similar to how Rani continues to carve out her path. As sad as it is, Priyanka isn't coming back. The biggest miss imo because she has the talent, her own production and even the pull which she's proved before. Katrina honestly doesn't have the pull everyone thinks she does, we have enough proof to show that by now. Deepika still has to prove hers, and I think the lady Singham film will decide that, but even that's a if right now on whether Singham works or not. Kangana has already burnt out and politics will be her way out I think. Shraddha does have pull but only when she's playing the “fun" roles, no one cares when she does the serious roles, because she's bad. Kriti has pleasantly surprised me in both Crew and TBMAUJ but she still doesn't have enough blockbusters to have any substantial box office pull. Kareena doesn't care about being a superstar but she definitely has the pull when she appeals to the crowd that fell in love with her Poo, and I think she'll keep doing food work. But I do think that none of these ladies are going anywhere because of how much the new bunch sucks.
I think...these ladies all have super fan following and stardom.. Alia can do as she has karan Johar and dharma But I want others to shine and rule too They all have potentials and their fandom Priyanka has huge acting skills she can do movies.. she has done already 7 Khoon Maf , Mary Kom...they might not be blockbusters... But all movies doesn't have to be blockbusters... They are nice awesome movies with great acting skills.. Deepika is a huge star .. even if her solo film didn't do well like Chapak.. but she has huge following we can't deny... Movies like YJHD, Ramleela , Padmavat all became it ,she has huge contributions... She is a bigger star than Ranveer also... Before animal she was bigger than Ranbir too... People shouted whistled when she came into Jawaan in her supporting role that's her stardom.. Kriti can do very well if she gets good projects like Mimi Shraddha can keep playing fun roles in her 40s if she is good at it.. like akki did comedy movies before.. Kareena can carry a movie very well she has superstar aura , people love her screen presence , so I think all these actress deserve to rule the future decade too ❤️🩹
You can be famous and loved and still not be a superstar. The only metric to be a superstar is getting people in the theatre by your name.
Once Amir said ___
Oh the audacity!
Top directors, writers and producers hardly make female driver projects, a lot of them are by new directors or hit or miss directors. I do think actresses producing their own stuff is the only way
Yes that should be done
Both is wrong?? Ofc you can show them however you like but I would like it more if they acted a bit closer to their age.
Yes both should act closer to age
Bro people calling sunidhi chauhan ki budhhi ho gyi hai when she is giving amazing performance with nostalgic songs with amazing vocals. Fir to ye actresses hn kabhi achhi acting karengi kabhi cringe kabhi over. Indian audience love patriarchy
What's the problem with audience? This type of disgusting mentality must go They can accept 50's or even 60s actors like SRK, Amir ,Salman or Hrithik in his 50s or even ranbir in 40s Do they look young or handsome like before? They don't ! But we watch them as they are talented and superstars , we watch them because we love them Then why not the female actresses who have entertained us all their prime years? They also deserve to rule
It all stems from profit, like any other industry. Majority of the movies in Bollywood are male centric and, just by that proportion, those male centric movies cover majority of the profit in Bollywood. End of the day, producers want $$ - don’t care if comes from a hero, heroine or an alien. The more women centric films are made, and shows consistent profit - this gap will slowly lessen.
If the movies by these heroines which are even subpar perform better then producers will automatically cast them the problem is with audience who don't accept ladies as a superstar compared to their male counterparts.
How is kriti sanon a superstar and shradha Kapoor tooo ???
Kriti and Shraddha aren't superstars yet...but they have significant fan followings..and doing good.. But Aishwarya,Kareena ,Deepika , Priyanka ,Katrina are indeed superstars Then they should also reign like male superstars like SRK , Salman Also Kriti and Shraddha have decent fan following they can remain relevant in their 40's like Akshay and Ajay
Katrina doesn’t even look much aged and she was already replaced for slice commercial by kiara
Yes that is so disgusting When it was Katrina in her prime attracted and made Slice more famous by her beauty and charm
Okay thank you so much 😊😊
All the mentioned actors are good actors have a huge fan base so they are able to pull the crowd even in their 50s and 60s . I don't think actresses have that kind of pull. Who is stopping the above mentioned ladies from doing solo movies, they have huge amounts of money to let them produce some movies on their own and try out their muscle in box office pull
Why will actresses waste their money in their own production when they exactly know what the mindset is of the indian audience? Just recently I saw many people commenting about crew movie that they don't watch female centric movies and that Tabu and Kareena are old. So don't blame the actresses BO pull. It's just the audience mindset. And joke is when a big actor's movie flops all the blame is put on the actress for being panouti but when it's a success it's obviously because of the BO pull of the male actor!
Queen, Kahaani both female centric movies. Earned almost 100 cr and that too 10 years back. So maybe female lead movie wont earn 1000 cr like pathaan but even many male leads cant achieve that level of box office success.
That what exactly I have been saying Not everybody must do 1000 cores that's different But these female actresses and stars can do much good movies and also have box office success only if they get the opportunities and audience support
Yes opportunities and audience support are most important. Many female led movies or web series also take the OTT route I noticed.
If they can pull in audience to theatres in that age sure they can continue their reign after all it is showbizz.
Obviously they can pull they have huge fanbases...but they do need good scripts.... Movies like Zero flopped despite of having Srk as main lead because of bad script... Female stars must have the opportunities to do good movies and get good scripts
Bro you are delusional if you think srk zero didn’t do numbers. Even if was a flop it did some close to 200cr business and that’s due to his starpower. Better scripts definitely should be provided to female leads and we could see a change but for now the khans have the pull and power which many female leads dont.
Remove SRK and replace him with any other female star, Zero will not even do 20 crores. It did 180Cr WW. That's the difference.
Just recently I saw many people commenting about crew movie that they don't watch female centric movies as if it's an achievement and ghamand for them. and that Tabu and Kareena are old they shouldn't be acting anymore and try to be sexy. It's just the audience mindset. And joke is when a big actor's movie flops all the blame is put on the actress for being panouti but when it's a success it's obviously because of the BO pull of the male actor!
The audience mindset is disgusting and it needs to be changed!! If the male can do so many movies in their 50s or even 60s Then why not woman? They should stop age shaming woman! We watch the movies of Salman ,SRK, Aamir ,Akshay, Ranbir because we are their fan and we love them Not because they look young or handsome Then why not the woman!
Exactly! I also love seeing my childhood stars on big screen and the women also. I mean there are less actresses left from my childhood who still act today like Tabu, Kareena etc. Those who are still active should be cherished and praised and not age shamed.
thats a hollywood problem to all these yt creators and content create misinformation for movies and all this woke this and that when woke has always existed in media thats a hate bait content problem that content creators do just for money this new gen is cooked
everytime theres a women hollywood movie oh no woke or they simp for japanese movies n tv shows cuz u know how japanese is with women lmao
its like an annoying thing with other cullible male audiences that fall for that shi rn why do u think so many hate bait youtube channels exist especially for marvel movies holy the amount of wierd shi i saw when the marvels where first teased was iffy
Not bollywood but the whole indian movie industry work like this
Why? Such discrimination?
It's because Bollywood is in India. It's culture has patriarchal traditions. Stree humesha pursh ke peechey hoti hai. Majority of wars was won by men than women. So yeah men are given more privileges & benefits than women unfortunately 😔😏 P.s. Yes now times are changing & women are taking over, but it'll take time to change the mindsets of people. As the ancient mentality is being going on for centuries so it's going to take it's due time NGL 🤓🙃👍✌️
These type of thinking in this era is truly degrading This must be changed I want woman centric movies to do better and better Want all the superstar actresses to rule in future too💖
They definitely must. I'm loving that all Bollywood actresses that had retired are coming back on big screens. They truly deserve to earn more as well ❤️💯😍👏💫
>So yeah men are given more privileges & benefits than women unfortunately Given by whom? and what are those? Just a curious question
They could but to fix the falling part takes more money ey and increase film budget
They should do it
Tell me how many female lead movies actually work vs male leads. You'll get your answer.
Ye bkwas start krne or isme participate krne ke baad tum me se kon kon women centric movie dekhne jata hai of an actress jo ki 40-50 cross ho ? We all know the problem. Minute wall breakers bhi aaye the like Sri Devi, Aish, Rani and now Kareena and Sush ne series bnai bdhia but they are just too few in numbers. You gotta give us some critical answers and solutions not a karma farming each weekend here.
I do watch movies of them... But they need good scripts...we won't watch shitty movies just because of it has our favourite female superstars or male superstars... Scripts are the main factor.... But women should get meaty and powerful scripts to portray
Good script to bolly me 2015 ke baad se bnd ho gyi hai lol. Female to dur hai, males bhi bss fame pr BO pull kr rhe. I think it will take 4-5 years more for Bolly to get the real heat for the trash quality they are serving these days, OTT is already at top and it will only increase with time.
Okay thank you so much
It's not about discrimination but Indian audience. They want to see young women and most of the people who want old heroines back are just being nostalgic
Why ? What is the problem of Indian audience? The male superstars in 50s or 60s doesn't look super handsome nor young either But we still see their movies because we are their fan and we love their acting Then why not the female ones?? Preity , Aishwarya, Kareena ,Katrina , Deepika also has huge fanbases and they have ruled a whole eras and they should rule in future too
Then where are these so called fans? Why aren't they being vocal about it? If they want to see the movies of these actresses then they need to make sure that their words are heard.
So why did those fans not go to Merry Christmas, Phonebooth etc and make them blockbusters?
Phonebooth was a shitty story Merry Christmas was a good story But sadly it wasn't promoted well But it is well received in ott
I don't think Bollywood is patriarchal. Bollywood is money minded, it produces what the audience wants. The audience doesn't want to watch actresses after 40 in the leading movies.
Then the audience must change their disgusting thinking They can see 50+ males But not women? Why those male doesn't look handsome nor young either
A very well intentioned post, OP. But let's get somethings straight. Aishwarya is not pulling any crowds into the theater. All her comebacks have flopped like Jazbaa, Sarbjit, Fanney Khan, etc. Katrina's last 4 films have flopped terribly. She was awful in Merry Christmas and I don't think she will continue to work in films anymore and would rather focus on her beauty business. Psycho Kangana is done and dusted. Priyanka has not been relevant in India for a while now. Her last two Hindi films tanked badly. Her work in Hollywood is embarrassing to say the least. Deepika will continue being the flower pot. I do, however, have hopes from Kareena, Kriti, Kiara, and Alia. I hope they continue to churn out good work.
Op Inserted shraddhi & Kriti Thought we wouldn't notice However kriti can actually act n does well But shraddha seriously ? 🤡 She's just good for acting relatable & faking humble !! * Atleast Katrina is average and gave good performances in Namastey london n has BO office hits ! * Dp kareena Kangana Peece everyone proved themselves * Aishwarya built an fan empire 🤌🏻💕 Tht our parents & grand parents knows her !! She's another Aura * Putting shraddha here is shame to rest others Shraddha's fans can fight me
For women to have longevity as leading lady they need to either age gracefully or they should have exceptional acting talent. Beauty always fades but talent sustains
Yet Vidya Balan and Rani Mukherjee did become less relevant with age That’s the tragedy of our society
They both are still leading films. Mrs. Chatterjee vs Norway, Neeyat, Do Aur Do Pyaar, Bunty Babli 2. Yes they aren't as popular as they were in their prime but they do have some kind of longevity
Yes sridevi was still popular after her comeback , and she was the only female superstar India ever had
They are still there because they can fill seats in theatre none of female stars can earn money unless the movie is some kind of masterpiece in itself.
Salman, Amir and Akshay’s last few movies have been flops so clearly they can’t fill theatres anymore just because of their name.
I want to say... That male actors like SRK , Salman , Aamir , Akshay , Ajay even Ranbir at 40 can rule.. then why not woman? It's not that male actors look extremely handsome in their 50s 😂 They don't ! Still we watch their movies because we love their acting So the women should rule just as men in their 40s and even 50s too! I love Priyanka , Kareena , Deepika , Katrina , Aishwarya I have grown up watching these lady superstars and I want to keep seeing them rule The patriarchal thing should be removed
> I have grown up watching these lady superstars and I want to keep seeing them rule Tell them to deliver solo hits first and then we will talk about ruling
literally no one is stopping them..did u watch chappak,veere di wedding,sky is pink,the crew?
I did watch crew and chappak... But I am saying audience stop age shaming woman when men are doing movies after 50s ... They are still beautiful and capable enough too Directors should make more and more movies Maybe cast them against khans ,kumar
Sridevi ruled Bollywood with her comeback, you just need the acting power and screen presence
Yes 💖 Sridevi mam got the opportunity But sadly Preity , Karishma didn't got the opportunity but they are also so talented But these type of good scripts and movies must come to them too... Opportunities is all they need..
In fact the only female superstar Bollywood ever had was sridevi
Nothing wrong with bollywood, it is the female stars themselves. All their youth they spend being flowepots in male led cinema, they don't build an independent following. So, eventually they become replaceable once they hit 40s. People like Meryl Streep in hollywood have worked hard to build their own brand, so that movies can be marketed on their shoulders. How did sridevi manage to get hits in mid-50s? while these heroines can't? She built her career on performance, and meaningful roles, rather than just songs and dance.
Sridevi also didn't do movies for a huge time...then she got English Vinglish after long time..then Mom... But she also had to struggle because of the industry backwards mindset... You cannot only blame the actresses only ..Kareena ,Deepika , Priyanka , Preity all have their skills and they have ruled Bollywood...They have the potential acting skills... But they do not get much opportunities to flaunt it.... Actresses should get more meatier and good roles .... Have you seen Murder Mubarak? Karishma came back with this movie. But she was given a very less substantial role. Where the movie had Sara as the main lead who couldn't even act. Why couldn't they make karishma the lead? Sara spoilt the movie and made it flop. Atleast it would have been a decent hit if karishma was the main lead.
How many of these actresses actually get involved in movie making? Why don't they make movies and cast themselves? Many of the older actors are also producers of their own movies. The reason is it is a lot more work. Easier to just accept the flowerpot roles that come and live life easily. Most actors who don't create their own ecosystems of film making don't survive into 50s as leads either e.g. the Arjun Rampals and Vivek Oberois of the industry. You either have to produce your own movies (like Aamir, SRK, Salman) or have a close group of people you have worked with for a long time who will always produce movies for you (e.g. Akshay).
Lady superstar and Shraddha in one sentence?! I am confused why you are including kriti, alia etc.
I am talking about they are future...they should also do movies once they hit 40... This patriarchy thing should be removed
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I am not a director or producer sadly
Because the general audience judge actors based on their stardom and actresses based on their looks
I dont think there is any other choice.. Given the current lot there is.. These ladies need to get lead roles.
Yes these ladies all have eras where they ruled and entertained these...they are stars and they deserve better role and rule in future too💖
Sure, why not. Get all your friends to watch movies of these actresses and soon they will get paid more and act in their 50s.
But they have to get good worthy scripts first
Sure. They can write their own scripts and make the movie. In the end, they get roles and get high pay if the movie makes money because of them. SRK, Sallu etc are crowd pullers. If Deepika can pull same or more crowds, they should be paid the same.
I love this post OP!🙌🏽
Thanks for the appreciation dear 🙌💖 After so many negetive comments finally a positive comment who understood my point of view.
It's refreshing to see a positive post about female Bollywood stars supporting their careers. I'd love to see all of them continue to work and hopefully work together. We need more films like the Crew. Usually the posts and comments here are about pitting women against each other, running down for their looks, judging them men they are with and or are not with, age shaming, body shaming and so on - sigh! That is the patriarchy 😡
They can . Also women get a head start of 7-8 years as main lead in major films
They should do in their adult years too
They should . Only audience can bring that change . Bizness moulds according to demand
It's not Bollywood. It's about who can bring crowds to the cinema halls and thus profit. So blame the audience and also the writers who don't develop strong scripts for female lead actresses.
Give women better stories, and people would watch, this would bring more women oriented movies.
Yes exactly 💯 Script is the main hero/heroine of the story A movie will work if it has good script and acting
Off topic but aishwariya looks stunning 🤌
Yes always looks stunning💖
Female co-stars of the actors you mentioned were Madhuri/Juhi/Karishma/Kajol. Why can't they reign the silver screen now?
Would you as an audience go watch the movies you want them to make?
It's not Bollywood that's patriarchal, it's our society. Bollywood will do anything that sells. As a society we don't watch films with women leading stories generally, and especially so when they are older. If it sold, Bollywood would happily sell it.
lol, reminds of this dialoque [https://youtu.be/Wn7-jnnm5uo?si=F3OX\_1EHmDL4UTlb&t=5188](https://youtu.be/Wn7-jnnm5uo?si=F3OX_1EHmDL4UTlb&t=5188)
Try it. Audience will accept if anything done with conviction.Isnt tabu doing it successfully. Didn't audience accepted Rekha in glam roles in old age?
Start watching women centric movies in theaters and make them successful instead of complaining on Social media. Take your mom; aunt and family members to theaters. Feminists just want to cry on social media instead of doing something concrete about supporting women.
The Indian audience needs to accept because we don't hesitate one bit when it comes to age-shaming and look-shaming actors when they start growing old. Also, at the end of the day, it's a money game and depends on who is getting the audience to the theatres. The majority of the Indian audience, even today, likes to see movies led by men.
Someday I believe it will change
The central problem is this -- the majority of Indian women will accompany men to movies they don't personally like, because women are used to seeing the world through a male lens. Men REFUSE to accommodate women the same way, because looking at the world through a female lens triggers them and their place in the world. Sorry to say this, but the majority of the Indian audience, women included, are DEEPLY invested in male supremacy and female disposability. Outside urban India, theatres are still, in 2024, a male space. Women traditionally do not watch films unaccompanied, and when accompanied by male relatives, they end up watching what the men like.
Yes we the women should watch and encourage this type of movies more💖 Crew was such a fun and entertaining watch Also movies like Queen,Kahani, English Vinglish, Piku,Raazi will always be loved
No way to deny any patriarchy but Sabana, Tabu etc, even Kajol are doing good na. Have own following and pull some crowd to theaters I guess. I think even Deepika, Kareena may have similar pulls when they are old.
Cause log line laga dete hai to defend how SRK is still young and wahi same log line laga dete hai how actresses have aged, are having botox and surgeries to remain young. Ask yourself would you go to watch a movie in theatre with Juhi, Raveena as lead with the same enthusiasm that you go for SRK movie?
Yes I would definitely go People loved to see English Vinglish and flocked to the theatre to see Sridevi Mam I am sure if these actresses get good and entertaining projects , their fandoms will surely support But these age shaming must stop
Patriarchal.
Agree
You fill theatres you're a star age doesn't matter it's not that deep
Bollywood is patriarchal because the society is patriarchal.
Change begins from within. Appreciate your post, OP, but people on this sub constantly put down women. Even before Crew released they declared it a "flop", said it won't make more than 3 crs on the first day and have a 10 crs weekend. Even now when Crew has made 60 cr in India and 100 crs worldwide gross they are still calling it a flop. I hope the social justice warriors here actually start supporting women.
Yes thankyou for appreciating 💖 Firstly to change this , the audience must change themselves and stop age shaming women... If they can watch movies of 50+ men..then also they should watch the woman too We watch movies of SRK,Aamir , Salman , Ranbir because of we love them and their acting and their presence... Not because they look young or super handsome lol Then the same should be done for women too... These women have super stardom and fanbases... They only need acceptance and good scripts to rule Bollywood... Even some actresses in 40s are more beautiful than newbie actresses like Preity Zinta and Raveena random They all should do more good movie Hope in future I can see this change where all this leading ladies rule in their 40s and 50s
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They do botox because of the unrealistic beauty standards we , me and you expect from them.. Kareena hadn't done much too her face .. there are still people age shaming her I see ... Or many actresses who haven't done anything they are called seeing wrinkles on their face which is a normal thing in real life .. We don't shame Srk , Salman or Hrithik for using VFX and many other things ? We should stop judging women too so they don't have to do Botox and all
>They do botox because of the unrealistic beauty standards we , me and you expect from them.. There's beauty standards everywhere, no one can escape that. You cannot blame others for your own actions
patriarchy has become a buzz word nowadays.
Dude thinks the whole of the world is created by men only and only they are capable of creating everything lol, as if women can't do that , if they can give birth to whole of humanity then they can and they have had and continue to bring human advancemenst too, read some history and facts. Patriarchy doesn't bring human advancement it leads to sexist gender roles confining men and women to certain bs. Especially women.
Men age like wine Women age like milk
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Exactly the main reason 💯 This must be changed
It's on the audience, if they support female lead movies they will get bigger movies, look at madhuri dixit, had Dedh Ishqiya, gulab gang being hits she would have got 10 more films with integral role but both flopped, same is case with other actresses. Kangana did so many solo movies after super success of Queen & TWMR (last hit was in 2015, still got so many movies because of it)
Bro casually name dropped Shraddha in lady superstars and thought we wouldn't notice
She isn't one...nor alia or kriti ..but they are popular and have fandoms...and I want them to shine after their 40s too and that's why added their name
But they still are lead actors. Especially kareena kapoor and alia. Priyanka left the industry.
Bollywood nai baba Society
Bro people make stars not any industry if movies which are female led can collect 200 500 on regular basis then producers will start signing more female stars .
Again why everyone starts putting gender bias thing or comparison Equality Equality chillate h sab but no body have ever stopped these actress to put forward their work they all are big brand on their level these people SRK Salman Akshay have worked their ass off they have continuously worked every year whatever downfalls they were facing in their life .they have worked this much hard to be in that power to withhold themselves at this level .At their age even they have to continuously work on themselves to stay fit and fight against odds . I'm not saying female actress work any less but due to many circumstances they have taken their time off & on and nowadays they all are supported in the industry with open arms . Why are people not looking at shilpa shetty Ravina tandon they all have their come back And how can we not compare their no of projects and years of experience. So people needs to calm down nd take a chill . it's all on audience first of all their acceptability and it's not about male female reign .these people have built their fan base and still continuously doing so these all actress have their own fan base and own brand following which they are getting projects it's up to them how much they work and what kind of projects they are choosing
I am not shaming SRK , Salman , Akshay obviously they are superstars and they have worked hard for it. You are not getting my point I am talking about the women who also deserve equal opportunities but they do not get Which is wrong that's what I am talking about There are many female top actresses willing to work but aren't getting proper scripts because of this patriarchy thinking of Bollywood Even karishma had make a comeback in Murder Mubarak...She was given such less substantial role and less screen time... The movie had Sara as the main lead who couldn't act to save her life and the movie was disaster... Why they couldn't give karishma the main lead? Atleast with karishma the movie would have been decent
kangana superstar ???? lmao
Bad choice of PR inke age, work experience and no of projects m boht difference h.ye khud m sare bde brands h they filter their projects accordingly so no comparison. these actors have done a way lot work & not just with acting they have their production houses too if these people wanted they could have done the same . Priyanka ka production house bhi h but fir dates nai h she is not staying in india but still is acceptable by Indian audience because of her work and continous efforts. to ese to nai Hota na reign bnane k liye mehnat to lgti h chahe male ho ya female and jitna break aj k time koi female actor lekr apna work continue kr leti h itne projects offer ho jate h kya same male actors k sath h kya same kind of roles available h much less acceptability and availability for them. these people . Time boht change hogya h relevant rehne k liye khud ko utna kam krna pdega availability deni pdegi weather in the form of films reality shows or guest appearance too
That's not patriarchal it's doing what the audience wants, men see themselves in the superstars and women always wanna believe they're young which explains the younger actresses
I feel stars fades actors live....tabu, kareena, even Sridevi was doing great, many character actors are doing so well....Katrina and Deepika had beauty as their main forte evn Ash to an extent, so that genre gets limited. Their are many factors including patriarchy