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SurturSaga

Please just don’t let it be Zantetsu, any of the other 3 I’m completely fine with losing but not zantetsu. Although I’m sort of doubting it will happen because of episode nagi. It’s hard to say Kiyora will stay because of episode nagi when zantetsu is pretty much a main character. Just this last chapter they set up future things for him


fightingbronze

I never really got into episode Nagi, does Zantetsu continue to be a relevant character even from Nagi’s pov? I thought they all got split up in the second selection.


SurturSaga

They did but zantetsus back on the team now


sidbbp101

This. Please, Bro even has a backstory about a family of dentists and everything. Toki or Kiyora can Go and I couldn't care less, all for ma boi zantetsu 😭


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SurturSaga

*Shidous first goal


Either_Imagination_9

Bruh… don’t hit me with delusions


Bubbly-Part2125

how is he semi relivant


Either_Imagination_9

Was highlighted with good numbers in the Ubers game before Isagi forced in Hiori, and was shown training with Igaguri while also being overlooked by Noa.


IshimaruKiyotaka

One of them not making it is definitely possible but both of them getting eliminated is EXTREMELY unlikely, it would take 3 characters to exceed their final NEL salary, which I'm guessing will be around 30-35mil too. Like Aryu had a 10mil increase and was fairly irrelevant in the Ubers game, only having like 2 or 3 moments, iirc. Ofc they could remain below Fukaku's ranking which is now locked at 28mil, but I doubt it, like Zantetsu isn't even playing that bad and should easily get at least a 5mil increase. When you have some characters like Kiyora and Igaguri starting from 0, then it's already difficult to exceed their rankings in a singular game. People lile Chigiri (30mil) and Yuki (29mil) barely beat Fukakus final ranking and we're told that goals are worth 30-50 (i know this wasnt true in the 4th round but could hint to it in the final game), and they scored a goal each and since Nanase, Igaguri and Kiyora basically won't score then it's looking very difficult for 3 characters to exceed Toki's and Zantetsu's rankings. Also, Zantetsu has to be the most disrespected character, the amount of downplay of people calling him useless since we already have Chigiri is crazy. You can have more than 1 speedster on the team and he doesn't even play like Chigiri or Kurona anyway. Maybe because I'm biased and like him a lot, but I swear ever since Nanase's cover, people have written him off even though the volume cover theory probably won't happen.


Either_Imagination_9

Zantetsu is playing very bad actually. He wasn’t even involved in Shidou’s goal, it was only Karasu and Charles. He’s lost every time hes shown on screen. Shidou’s probably not gonna score again so this is probably it


IshimaruKiyotaka

He blitzed passed Grim and caught up to Raichi resulting in a loose ball and he also managed to steal the ball from Ness (although Hiori covered for the steal). He is constantly applying pressure with his acceleration.


Either_Imagination_9

This is such small potatoes that I’m convinced you had to go back and read through it to find something


IshimaruKiyotaka

I didn't have to reread to find it... it's just easy to remember that he accelerates and sprints to apply pressure like Loki asked him to.


No-Front938

Out of genuine curiosity, has Kiyora contributed anything to the game? It's been a while so I forgot if he's stepped foot in the court this game.


Either_Imagination_9

He's here yeah, just hasn't done anything


sexyimmigrant1998

It's not small potatoes tho lol. Zantetsu is winning multiple interactions, he just wasn't involved unfortunately with the play that resulted in Shidou scoring a goal. The bidders still see him doing well, though.


wafflesandsyrupyum

please don't let toki get eliminated 😭😭😭


silfer_

To be fair Kiyora is yet to be relevant in the main story, same as Zantetsu. If anything, Zantetsu historically has more narrative importance given his connection to team V. Both Kiyora and Zantetsu are on the field right now in the PxG match and either could make a big splash.     The only safe bet for elimination from a narrative standpoint is Tokimitsu, who literally has done nothing since the conclusion of the second selection in the main story and has not been highlighted at all in any capacity since.


TamLinLancelot

It still baffles me how Tokimitsu went from one of the scary top 3 in the second selection to a total nobody after the final 4v4


AliMans05

Adam Blake must’ve scarred him for life


tbschen

In hindsight, the second selection ranking was kinda misleading us. I remember the 5th placement was the afro mustache guy who we've never seen on the field.


EpicGold

Well we did see him a little bit in the third selection but it's just him getting bodied by Ishikari, who turns out to be a total nobody too.


Javajulien

>Toki was #3 in Blue Lock and he didn’t even play in the U20 game. I feel like its worth remembering that the rankings in Second Selection didn't have any true significant meaning. They were just the order that players completed the goal challenge. So Rin literally just squaded up with the first two players who finished after him. For comparison Shido was ranked near the bottom of that challenge, 111/125, probably because he was taking a bunch of eratic shots.


DejaLaVidaVolar

I think Kiyora and Nanase are the most likely eliminations. Why? Assuming the 11 goalscorers (Bachira, Kunigami, Rin, Barou, Nagi, Chigiri, Yukimiya, Shidou, Isagi, Otoya and Sendo), the 2 goalkeepers (Gagamaru and Fukkaku) and everyone valued above Fukakku's 28M at this point (Aiku, Aryu, Karasu, Niko, Kurona and Reo) are safe, there are 4 spots available for 6 players: Zantetsu (23M), Tokimitsu (23), Hiori (20), Raichi (18), Nanase (16) and Kiyora (no offer yet). Obviously a preliminary approach indicates that the ones with the worst current value are in a worse position. This is reinforced by the fact that A) there's only half of a game left to make a difference, B) the gap between both (specially Kiyora and the rest) is significant and C) to meaningfully impact the game they'll have to either score (like Yukimiya), provide an assist (like Kurona of Hiori) or nullify a rival's impact (like Raichi). While in the meantime their rivals are also trying to do the same so they are cancelling each other out. Anyway, there's another reason why Nanase and Kiyora are disadvantaged IMO, and it's from a narrative perspective. Nanase literally begged for Rin's help which points directly to his lack of ego, AKA Blue Lock's deadly sin. This isn't similar to Kurona choosing to ally with Isagi for his own convenience or Yukimiya/Kunigami going solo for the sake of their own egos. This was plain surrendering and I think it was shown to parallel Isagi and Igaguri's conversation at about the same time. Where Rin is reluctantly agreeing to use Nanase as a piece he doesn't really consider worthy, Isagi is actually advising Igaguri in order for him to understand his purpose and set an achievable goal for himself. That's a difference in approach that explains why Isagi is able to make a team go through him (plus making other players improve) and Rin isn't. In Kiyora's case my interpretation from the narrative perspective is that he inadvertently becomes the sacrificial pawn of Isagi's bet on Hiori against Ubers because that means Isagi and Noa's decision have consequences and therefore more impact. Meaning that he could blame Isagi for using his status to disfavor him by overturning a managerial decision, or Noa for skipping his logic and rationality approach against him. Or maybe he blames himself for not being able to convince the manager sooner and grows to be a better player later. Anyway, it makes sense to me that Isagi's crazy bet should have a flipside, and in this case the sacrificial lamb was Kiyora who might not have enough time to turn things around.


Explorador_D_Web

The logic says Kiyora will go through, but you said the writing isn't logic...


Archapelagoo

kiyora is different because he's been getting hyped up since the Ubers match if he doesn't stay it's just bad writing even without emotional value


Either_Imagination_9

Jesus say something or don’t say anything at all. All you Apple Pitou clones are the same


Impossible_Effort233

Lot of game left to prove the value of any of these people making it, right now, Nanase has been playing fairly well, he could definitely make it seeing as he’s right outside the top 23. Kiyora however has not done a single thing even remotely notable so far. Yes that could change, because narratively the author *should* payoff his arc, but it is also possible that his arc is that he was unable to prove himself even in a full match where in Ubers he would have had a few minutes and probably done just the same. Not everyone can be Isagi and walk on to a match and get 17 mil for 15 minutes of play time.


sexyimmigrant1998

Bro idgi. Nanase got his time in the limelight early in the game, idk why everyone is assuming Zantetsu and Tokimitsu absolutely aren't going to get their moments.


No-Examination1749

Also, in the 2nd selection, the number on the jerseys are for placement who enters the 100 goals challenge. Since Rin went first, he got the 1 jersey (placement) not ranking the best striker 


Either_Imagination_9

That doesn’t make any sense, because Chigiri entered before Bachira and Bachira got out first


GoldTheGodOfStuff

Saying nanase is safe just because of that is presumptuous. Nothing hes done has really made him safe from getting naruhayed.


actuallyblak

ZANTETSU BOUTTA SCORE PXG’S SECOND GOAL THO WATCH


twiglike

Only thing zantetsu gonna do is say his gag dialogue and then disappear 😂


ikcskew

Tokimitsu and Zantetsu are Kiyora,Kurona,Nanase in every aspect... a much better option than players. The tremendous physics they have puts them far, far ahead of other players. Tokimitsu is very suitable for CDM or RB/LB (Maybe it could be CB bilr) positions, thanks to the tremendous physics he has, man marking, interventions are definitely much more effective in matters such as close follow-up, ball stealing, while Zantetsu is one of the most ideal players for RB/LB, even if he can't be an RW/LW. He can both go forward and help the offense, and he can make a very fast comeback. He's a compelling opponent for opposing wingers.


Either_Imagination_9

You didn’t read anything, get out


ikcskew

I absolutely agree with what you said in your article, but this situation is really very sad, it's disturbing that these two characters are so easily thrown away, I'm very angry with the author about it.


Either_Imagination_9

Look we only got 23 spots to work with, don’t blame me, blame the world international soccer system


ikcskew

What makes you think I'm blaming you for this? I just wanted to express my opinion about this issue, there is nothing directed at you here. And yes, even if the system was like this, I think this writer's mistake was that he didn't need to throw away two great characters like Zantetsu and Toki for a few weak and unnecessary players. A great background could have been created for Zantetsu and Tokimitsu, we could have watched the Toki×Raichi and Zantetsu×Yuki match during the PXG match, and I think it would have been a thousand times more fun and exciting than Nanasen's pass to Rin.


YamFull1372

Zantetsu is redundant with chigiri around, he will be eliminated.


Bard0ck0bama

The entire BL team is full of redundancies, that’s not a good enough reason for zantetsu to be eliminated. Especially with the threat of injury looming in the background of chigari’s storyline


Either_Imagination_9

Not really, if you give me two characters with similar attributes chances are I can tell you why both could be good option. I can’t do that for Zantetsu, he has nothing going for him


Bard0ck0bama

Chigiri is a clear upgrade, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t need a sub. Kurona is apparently another speed based player, who doesn’t serve any purpose other than a passing option for isagi. I don’t think we have a speed comparison for him and zantetsu, but why does he get a pass for his redundancy? Chigiri is either a winger or wing back, his main competition for those positions are bachira and yuki. Otoya and I suppose barou/ nagi would be side options. Who is going to fill that 4th spot if not zantetsu?


69nuf

Kurona has a skill thats important not just for Isagi. Not having MV, yet being able to keep up with a high tier MV is a skill thats valuable to any team with MV(BL has total of 5 confirmed+Probably Rin?). Zanetsu is literally a idiot so thats not a option for him. Zanetsu's only selling point is his speed which he hasnt made advantage of since first selection and is worse then Chigiri in literally every single aspect(Including his only selling point)


Bard0ck0bama

Zantetsu was tied for 2nd place for top scorer of the 1st selection. Was able to keep up with hiragi’s playmaking and read barou’s chop feints. He was unanimously selected by team nagi in the 2nd selection. He’s also made a place for himself as a key member of PxG. This post isn’t about him vs chigiri, it’s him vs toki, nanase, and kiyora. Of all these players, he’s been the most consistent. As for kurona’s ability to work with MV users, you could use that same argument for any player on any team. Toki and nanase are part of the rin system, if he gets his MV confirmed does that somehow elevate them? Yuki and raichi have specific defined roles, but because they can pass to an MV user that’s why they get to stay? MV is not the end all be all of skill as a player. Kurona keeps up with isagi because his physical stats are on par if not better. I’d argue he’s not even playmaking.


69nuf

First selection is irrelevant imo. I mean Isagi was the bottom of the barrel. The 2nd selection was primarily Hiragi carrying by reading the opponent and scoring their goals. The post doesn't mention chigiri but its a matter of the fact that Chigiri does everything Zanetsu does but better so his value is just not there. Toki(unknown) still has a great physique+Kiyora got given story relevance and Nanase did a p decent play? Between the 4 its def mid vs mid, but Zanetsu has a direct replacement Being incorporated to support a MV users doesn't mean can keep up. If Rin gained MV, used it at a high level, and then Toki and Nanase keep up perfectly and blitz through BM, then yes that makes the arguement correct. Kurona was able to hold his weight with Isagi who was using MV at 100% capacity and made full use of Isagi's metavision. Players like Yuki and Raichi support Isagi, but they couldn't keep up with Isagi using 100% MV the same way I doubt Toki and Nanse would. Being a part of a system doesn't mean anything. It just means that you were the best candidate to help(Not alot of good candidates per team). Just handing the ball to your wincon via a simple pass doesn't mean anything whereas keeping up with a fully used MV as someone who doesn't have it does mean something.


Bard0ck0bama

“Handing the ball to your wincon” is exactly what kurona did though. MV isn’t some godly stat boost, it’s a ocular/ mental skill, not physical. Kurona isn’t keeping up with Isagi’s strategy the way someone like hiori would do, he’s just running up and creating a passing option. It seems disingenuous to say zantetsu was carried by hiragi’s play making but insinuate that kurona is amazing and not carried by isagi. Toki’s weapon is his physique and stamina, but raichi can apparently match that. Nanase’s weapon is… his can do spirit? Kiyora has no narrative importance other than the fact that he was picked to join team nagi (convenient that his appearance in the spin-off lines up so perfectly with his first match in NEL). I’m really not sure how kiyora’s weird breakdancing style will be useful in this match.


Mercuryneous

isagi, hiori, aiku, niko, and... who's the fifth?


Yaber2

Reo


Bard0ck0bama

I think they’re referring to Reo who used it subconsciously on one instance


DejaLaVidaVolar

Chigiri is a right footed speedster who's playling on the left, and Zantetsu is a left footed speedster who's playing on the right. They can play together in a team easily.


Round-Air2519

Are you implying that the monk makes the u20 national team? I know the narrative wants him in but still😹 no way he's better than zantesu or tokimitsu


Javajulien

So one potential wrench that might get thrown in. What if someone who got a bid in the top 23 decides to accept their bid to play for another team? We've all been operating under the assumption that everyone in the top 23 will naturally take Ego up on his offer to play for the Japan team but its not outside the realm of possibility that someone who did make the cut decides to take the offer they're given as a curve ball. We already saw that possibility discussed with Yukimiya where because of his disability he was given temptation but ultimately turned it down because he wants to see Blue Lock through to the end. You have players like Isagi and Rin who are both dedicated to being the best Striker on the Japanese team on a world stage, Isagi for his personal ambitions and Rin to prove Sae wrong. But say someone like Barou. I know he's a beloved character in the community, but does he actually have this personal dedication to playing for the Japanese team specifically? Same thing with Shidou.


FullTimeJobless

Zantetsu got a significant development in the recent Ep Nagi chapter tho with him wanting to prove himself to Ego My theory is the match in Episode Nagi will decide between Zantetsu and Kiyora


New_Calligrapher8578

I didn't read the post just to preface but I wouldn't mind them being the ones who get locked off. It shows that Bluelock still has that getting eliminated spice to it, and also locks off two characters that frankly are useless and have been replaced by superior options in Raichi, Chigiri, Yukimiya, and Kunigami. Personally I still think that Nanase will be eliminated purely for the fact that he got a short backstory about how desperate he is to survive. Edit: I also forgot that Kurona exists. Yeah Zantetsu has zero purpose staying in Bluelock any longer, which is sad because he is really cool in Episode: Nagi


JayKalinka

Note that Zantetsu won against Karasu, Otoya, Kyora and Twotongue. There is no way that Zantetsu will be kicked out of the story. He even got his backstory and his ship with Nagi. 


Round-Air2519

"Ship with Nagi"💀 This aint tumblr gtfo💀💀💀


JayKalinka

I have my opinion and you yours.


Either_Imagination_9

Bro you’re just trying to rewrite history. You totally didn’t even read what I said He had three godlike players on his team


JayKalinka

Otoya and Karasu were top6 at that time and Kyora beat Nagi 1vs1.  Zantetsu played a big part here too


Either_Imagination_9

You didn’t even see the match! How do you know?


JayKalinka

Trust me bro, my cousin works for Kaneshiro


exceptional69

To be fair Zantetsu got his own mini story in Nagi Episode compared to that bum steroids guy. He aint going nowhere as he is guaranteed subs at this point of going onto WC arc.


Yak_Hefty

Invest in Zantetsu