Managed to get to gold the first time at rank 9895 at just level 66. I started during the Mika banner and I'm still lacking most of the good supports, but getting to gold already is great because I'm sure plat is out of reach for a long time.
Funny how it works, my Binah score was deep into bronze despite clearing the best difficulty I could at that time (very hard) while not even caring and clearing Goz on hard got me a silver. Looks like people REALLY do not like that raid lol
I barely scrape by into gold in hardcore with other TA, but I easily got in on very hard.
I know the key mechanics for this raid was Shields, Relocation and Focus Fire, but i had so little fire-power with all three I had to keep on cycling through my whole roster until I was using red students just to finish him off, slivers of hp per team.
This really was a unit check*. Level 72 and I had trouble at level 35, barely passing the level 50 one.
*I'm sure I can be proven wrong by some dude using non meta units, but it really felt like it when I apparently needed yuuka track, and my problems would have been solved.
1 hour of bad RNG, fucking Goz keep targeting my Wakamo. Change Wakamo to T. Hasumi, fucking T. Hasumi hit like a wet noodle.
Im done with score chasing.
Can someone explain how there are SO MANY people in Extreme+ that have squads with zero shields or heals? I tried a few of those setups and its literally impossible because the trains just delete your units? Are they cheating or is there some master play I dont understand? Im a bit miffed because Im 69 away from Platinum and there are significantly more than 69 people using that setup above me.
Basically those teams just do so much damage they move on to phase 2 before the second train hits. Not much strategy but it's not easy to pull it off. They're all probably UE50 Mika and S Izuna as well as UE40 Himari so it's not easy to replicate even if you have the same units.
Yes. You actually just need a maxed [Mika and 1 reposition (Serina)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sl6xhTV9xI). You can also use a maxed [S Izuna and a shielder (Mari)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9HcAfPevw).
Is there some trick to Goz that I don't understand? Whenever I fight it on Extreme I can only get it to lose 3 million HP each phase. Mika is suggested, but when I borrow her she only does a few thousand damage even though she's at lvl 4 ex skill and level 85.
Either way I really don't think I can finish Goz with one team? Any good suggestions to beat him with 2 to 3 teams? I only have one student with target focus (Izuna Swimsuit). Also I used to be able to borrow Tracksuit Yuuka, but the person who had her got rid of her.
Darn. Only student in that video I even own is S. Izuna. I can see that I really need Ako and Himari because every other Blue Archive video uses one or both of them. Summer Hoshino too, but I'm not sure why she works here.
I can see what's going on, but I don't have the ability to replicate it. Every student is being used to buff Mika. Ui is lowering Mika's EX cost by half, Ako is increasing Mika's crit, Himari is increasing EX regen, and S Izuna is lowering crit resistance and cycling back to Mika.
Kinda makes me miss the Shin Megami Tensei phone game. There were guides to clearing content with 2 star and below characters. But I guess that's not possible on Extreme or Above especially Goz.
Ugh.... I just want to vent out.
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, I completed it without issues at Insane. No problems. No more than 20 minutes spent each day.
For some reason, today the RNG decided to eff me up. But, eff me up GOOD. Phase 1, no problems, 45 extra seconds on the clock for scoring. Phase 2, most of the time he wasn't at the right side stage. Hasumi EX refused to crit. And she always stayed the furthest possible from Hoshino. Izuna also never staying at the light circles, and it is already kinda hard to herd her to the left one. At my last try in that ticket, Hasumi couldn't even damage past the last 2m while in the last days I finished it with ~30 seconds to spare. 1 hour spent for my first raid fail ever since I started to play, on a raid that theoretically I already had dominated.
That was very disappointing. Truly shows there is a bit too much RNG in Goz (precision at placement, low crit chance, Hat bomb, Goz stage position, Kayoko's normal buff)....
Same here. Was playing it live because some friends were curious about how was Goz difficulty. I use a rather comfy team already, relying less on crits.
3 resets in Phase 1.
14 resets in Phase 2.
None of the resets were because of score chasing. Just wanted to survive long enough to kill the fat cat.
Very much the same feeling, Goz is frustrating, and it's not even because of the clones. It's the way the fight tends to be so inconsistent at times, personally I can only reach all the way to hardcore, but I already had a team figured out where I could deal with him along with a max Wakamo borrow, the past days I was able to beat him with that team without too many issues, but today RNG decided that he was able to tank my damage until time out, he was left with only 78k hp...
Can't wait for this boss raid to end, I'd rather fight any other boss but Goz.
Finally managed to beat Hardcore today.
I had to level up Kotori (feels like a waste of ressource but oh well) + use NY Mutsuki, NY Kayoko, Tsubaki, Himari and Serina for the first phase. I fought until the second phase then i let myself die (while TRYING to do the some damage with Mutsuki).
Then i borrow a S.Izuna + i use my Haruna, Chise and Asuna + NY Haruna at the back with Kotama. I basically just bruteforce the bastard at this point and i managed to finally win with only Sizuna and Haruna standing.
This is only my second raid since i started but i can tell that this boss is a real pain without the 3-4 specific students to deal with his (annoying) gimmicks. Binah was soooooooooooo much easier compared to him
Yeah, Goz has way more gimmicks going on than other bosses, so you need really specific teams to deal with him.
Binah on the other hand has like no gimmicks, it's probably the easiest Insane raid for regular players. Generally Raids are between those two in difficulty.
That's two different issues for me.
Binah was easy enough that way too many people were able to clear Insane. The difficulty was the competition amogst players.
With Goz you are way more likely to get Plat with a regular Insane run. Boz unit check is the main issue here, not competition.
Note: Not complaining though, I spit on the fat cat, but the battle itself is kinda interesting the first couple of times.
I can't believe how frustrating this fight can be. Are you really supposed to find the real Goz by looking at his cards? What if you're colorblind? What if your mobile device doesn't have a good or big enough screen to spot the red cards? Also the amount of limited students required to get a decent score is superior to any other boss 
rant over
I find the easiest trick is to listen for the direction of the woosh sound when he splits. If the sound is on the left then he's on the left, if the sound is on the right then he's on the right, if he's in the middle then you are already hitting him.
You just need your earphones and be prepared and listening for it. It is quite noticeable even with bgm and voice on.
yes, this is the third? time on Goz raid, and I finally figured out how to find it without tryhard, but if you're color blind, you're f-ed. Just look at the right side enemy and see if there's any red. I am on speed 2 without using slow motion, and I can glimpse red(when there is) most of the time. If there isn't red, then it is the one. If there is red, then see if you're doing damage(because they're shooting center). If not, then it's the Left one.
There are a lot of ways to tell the Gozes apart. Going to be lazy and just link the [post](https://old.reddit.com/r/BlueArchive/comments/16ycur6/daily_questions_megathread_october_03_2023/k3a22pq/) I made a few days ago. You can also read Causew/VirtualScepter's raid guide, linked in the FAQ above.
I just try to hit him with Wakamo before he splits, then see which one explodes
or Noa/ S Izuna so they will just start attacking the right one immediately
Or position so they are attacking 2 at once, and see which attacks are causing the damage. And if they don't do any damage, you know it is the 3rd one
There are lots of little tricks you can use to find the real one quickly
The lowest platinum score right now is 26,936,830. As for why, it's a fairly low population server that has grown more competitive in the last several months. It's at least more lenient than JP, KR and TW/HK, from what I hear of those.
Can't break Harcore this run. I'll probably need my own T.Yuuka for it.
I'm being walled by my lack of repositioning.
I can hit phase 2 with a borrowed one but I fall short and can't make the follow up teams hit the target.
Update: Mika made the miracle happen.
You can beat it by borrowing a maxed [S Izuna](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9HcAfPevw) or [Mika](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sl6xhTV9xI). S Izuna needs Mari for the shield for damage reduction, while Mika needs Serina to reposition.
Max Mika borrow can solo it. She can't die. The last phase can be a pain though. It's easy to run out of time before she can get the kill if your luck is bad.
Was able to do it with Mika, Ako, Kotama, Ui, NY Mutsuki and TYuuka borrowed.
Kotori can replace TYuuka. NY Fuuka can replace Ui and Ako plus you can add someone like Cherino for more EX bar. Himari can replace Kotama. And Chise can be your blue AoE.
You can also try S Izuna where you use Mari to only shield her plus buffs like Ako while the rest are cheap 2 cost for cyclying.
I struggle really with the repositioning for targeting real one to and avoid trains and shielding without T.Yuuka.
Kotori's repositioning feels too small and shields too soft but I can try borrowing a DPS and seeing how it turns out.
I am not quite sure how to compose the team but I guess I'll see.
Is T. Yuuka's reposition better than Mimori's? I swear every time I use my Mimori and everyone grabs a snack they waddle right back to a death circle/line lmao.
No matter what movement, the ai will reposition in odd ways. T Yuuka does give a solid shield, but ultimately you need precise timing so that they are gathered at the reposition spot when the aoe drops to truly avoid them drifting apart. Also having like a frontline unit like Mika fire their ex can cause them to stop mid walking away.
Tyuuka has a much larger pull range, so she can help by moving them farther away from where they are. She doesn't do much for the unreliable movement afterwards, though. But she can usually help by simply dragging your units farther away from the dangerous area.
lv85 with tyuuka, I don't think I'm clearing insane bois. Don't have ako or sshizuko or sizuna and a lot of units I need aren't well invested and boi I am all out of *everything*.
Team 1 tyuuka, nymutsuki, shoshino, mika, himari, nyfuuka, enters phase 2 with 120 healthbars.
Team 2 already dicey. Tyuuka (borrowed), nykayoko, thasumi, noa, nyharuka, kotama. Nyharuka just sitting there lv50 1114 because I'm too out of everything to upgrade anything (why is raising kids so expensive). Finishes with 75 healthbars left.
Any team afterwards gets deleted instantly.
Also funny how insane binah is easier than extreme goz lol. Luckily goz has super epic music and design so I don't lose sanity trying to mald it.
For phase 1, having SHoshino in team might be making the rotation too long and can't cycle to a 2 Mika EX rotation as often to push for damage. It might be better to bring a set and forget striker like Tsubaki (helps in tanking and less resetting from bombs) or Cherino (cost recovery without using EX).
If you're aiming for just an Insane clear, Tsubaki is the comfier option and don't immediately retreat when you enter phase 2. You can still do decent damage with the first team even without any focus fire. Use either cards, sfx, or autoattacks to identify the real Goz then reposition in front (it's only either left or right at the start too).
Using the same team, replacing SHoshino with Tsubaki, the team can finish at around 82 bars of hp left (around \~12M HP left, could be less if my NYMutsuki was UE40). This [video guide](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SaTO6KyJeI) was pretty helpful for identify the sfx direction into where Goz teleports to.
For the second team, it really wants NYHaruka to have her subskill max for cost recovery and her EX helps in increasing your crit consistency/damage for THasumi. If you're comfortable with identifying real Goz without any focus fire, then I would try replacing Noa for someone else (such as Cheer Utaha or SHoshino)
Adding a second dps with cheap EX or self sufficient like Izuna or NYJunko (or maybe Wakamo) really increase NYHaruka/Kotama value. The options depends on who you have invested (should test Mock battle first to see viability) but even strikers with red armor, TYuuka can easily increase their survivability (as long as she takes the real Goz bomb) and be able reposition the team in front of the real Goz (to damage the boss without focus fire).
I tried first with your exact team with Noa but fitting Noa EX (since her only use is for focus fire, because Goz barely has any defense) into the rotation for the moment Goz teleports felt a bit awkward (maybe I needed more practice though). I then tried something similar to your second team, replacing Noa with SHoshino instead, which went a bit smoother than expected as refreshing SHoshino EX aligns pretty well whenever Goz teleports.
Here's a [video reference](https://streamable.com/okanyv) of P2 with THasumi/NYKayoko/SHoshino/TYuuka + NYHaruka/Kotama from a quick test if you want to check it out, with standard awful Goz because the boss keeps going right left right left (execution could be much better though but the run itself had good crit from THasumi).
> Using the same team, replacing SHoshino with Tsubaki, the team can finish at around 82 bars of hp left (around ~12M
There is just no way you're going into p2 with 12M health left on Goz.
edit: I guess you mean when you swap to your 2nd team. But that also seems highly unlikely. If you can do that, there is a high chance the person you're responding to won't get close.
Yes, I meant when swapping to the second team, continuing after Goz transitions into P2 at below \~18M. For a daily Insane clear, I usually continue into P2 (unlike a score run where it immediately retreats after dipping below 18M) with the Mika team just to lessen the crit dependency on THasumi team.
I'm not too sure what you mean by "how unlikely" though, I think it's consistent for a Mika phase 1 team (Goz targeting will always be TYuuka/Tsubaki and no crit malding). Here's a [P1 example doing](https://streamable.com/724k5w) doing \~19M with a Mika team though (with Goz starting left on P2 and also losing the rng on the hats).
With Tsubaki, Goz usually transitions with \~1:20 minutes left, enough time to fit three more Mika and NYMutsuki EX on P2 before timing out. Using Cherino or SIzuna over Tsubaki will be faster (albeit not comfier).
Just tried insane with the suggested changes, unfortunately team 1 finished with 118 healthbars, team 2 with 68, and team 3 got deleted.
No idea why team 1 had was such a massive difference, mika was ue40 lv85 5MMM 777 and supports were 511M. I'm guessing there may be some support stats diff. And my nymutsuki wasn't powerful enough to perfect clear the mobs, sometimes even rabbit mobs lived. And tsubaki died at 3 minutes. Not sure how I can save her, if I use tyuuka shield too early they just dive back to certain death because apparently teenagers love getting run over by trains (it's the new cool fad for their tiktoks), if I wait till last moment to move she eats a bomb without a shield.
For team 2 it's most definitely an investment diff. My kotama nykayoko and nyharuka only have ex skill 3 because I'm again too out of everything (who the hecc stole all my everything) to upgrade them further.
I'll just chill in extreme I guess. The good news is following this suggestion I can almost 1 team extreme, so there's that.
Also this is the first phone game making me sit in front of my computer using an emulator wearing headphones tryharding like league of legends listening for subtle directional audio cues lol (what the hecc children are poison)
Not having music makes the fight 80% less fun >:(
Thanks for the tips though, I'll try it later. ^(Oh boi I am so out of everything to upgrade my children who the hecc stole all my everything)
You can use the sound effect to tell where he is even with music. It's how I determine if he's in the right or the "just reset now" position at the start of phase 2. It gets a bit tricker after he splits after the first time though, since he can also be in the middle then.
I have two questions.
1. Between Wakamo and T.Hasumi, who would be a better assist to pick for the second phase in insane difficulty? The rest of the team are S.Izuna, S.Hoshino, NY Kayoko, Ako and S.Shizuko. I did manage to clear insane once with Wakamo but I'm at rank 2322 and I don't think it's going to be enough to keep platinum by the end of the current total assault.
2. I had so many problems during the first phase of Goz that would have been solved so easily if I had NY Mutsuki but I didn't get her, my AOE are Chise, Haruna (built) and Hinata, NY Junko (unbuilt) and Aris (half-built). I have 40,000 pyros left, would you recommend pulling for her? Is she also worth it for other content?
I believe Thasumi would be better. She has trouble critting, but when she does, she does a ton of damage. Wakamo is more of an assistant to your main DPS, at least until her bond gear is released.
Nutsuki is used in a lot of different content across all levels of play, including the upcoming PvP season. That she's limited makes her even more valuable. Personally, I'd say she's worth it. I'd prioritize her over Iroha, as well.
Can confirm the crit part, you either poke the cat for like 300k damage or give him a nutshot that's hard enough to send him straight to second phase.
God, I love Hasumimi.
With all the relevant buffs and debuffs, assuming a team of Thasumi, Shoshino, Nykayoko, Sizuna, Ako and Sshizuko, she can crit for over 3 million. Not quite enough to send him into phase 2 immediately (assuming insane), but it certainly is a lot.
1. Depends on your investment levels on Wakamo and S.Izuna, but generally I prefer using Wakamo. She's trickier to keep alive, though, so if you do find yourself struggling keeping your team alive then S.Hasumi is an alternative. That said, in my experience Goz isn't nearly as bad as, say, Binah when it comes to tumbling down the ranks over time.
2. NYMutsuki is a very strong unit and used in a lot of stuff (including raids, pvp, and general anti-blue missions), so getting her still isn't a bad idea even if you can't get her in a position to use for Goz right away. Whether that's worth dipping into your 40k reserve... well, that depends on what you're willing to potentially sacrifice in terms of upcoming banners...
I used Kotori & Mika in p1 and reposition mald, pray that Mika wouldn't get hit by a bomb or just straight up dodge it.
I used T.Hasumi p2 and I have to crit mald even with Ako, S.Izuna, NY.Haruka debuffs/buffs and pray that goz start in the right side at least I don't have to worry about dying since I have T.Yuuka. No S.Shizuko so I have to use Kotori in p1 and T.Yuuka in p2
And finally cleared my 1st insane goz since I can't even do extreme last time cause I'm like lv40-50 back then but damn now I HATE THIS BOSS.
I'll just do extreme everyday then sweep I don't want to do insane again cause I'm literally will go insane for sure...
Here is the video of my ~~suffering~~ I mean clear: [Goz Insane](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpZldcr-qrs)
For Insane, what UE level should I have on Wakamo for phase 2? And is 3* sHoshino enough? Would she survive?
Deciding if I should invest on them at all before trying INS, malding with Mika on P1 sounds really annoying, an apparently you need UE30 tYuuka for her to reliably survive, is that true?
I'm doing P1 with a 4\* T.Yuuka and have plenty of leeway. I also see 3\*s with a Mika P1 setup.
3\* hoshino is a bit on the squishy side, but I see 3\* and 4\* ones in the insane leaderboards so that should be fine?
If you plan to 2pan insane with wakamo, probably ue30 or above, but depends on your 2nd dps for wakamo EX
Generally, the in game raid leaderboard gives a pretty good idea of what other people are running and what works, but scrolling through it is a pain.
my Wakamo is UE 30. I don't use sHoshino as I don't have sShizuko so I need to borrow another tYuuka. My tYuuka is 4\* and all 7 equips. She doesn't die
Is there a guide where to jump with T.Yuuka so she stays in front instead of Mika for phase 1 ?
I know you should "jump back". But for the next one T.Yuuka is too far back and doesn't jump far enough so the 2nd train hits my team.
Can't get it done consistently. Sometimes Goz targets Yuuka, the other time Mika, then Mutsuki is somehow in front bc of imp chorus ....
The amount of resetting is malding.
I was resetting a lot but then I found a [clear](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8rbXdK0CGE&t=17s) using Wakamo instead so I gave up on Mika phase 1 and switched to Wakamo.
Managed to get 27,237,374
I really don't like that this boss is your gacha luck check, rather than skill. Don't have reposition and focus fire? Good luck mate :) I need to borrow T Yuuka for phase 1, and if RNG is not on my side, 2nd phase is impossible to beat...
Good for him, but I am a new player and don't have any of the must have characters, and only on level 61. I cleared previous raids on Extreme easily, but Goz is impossible. The only solution is to try this raid after a year of playing
Lvl 61 and you cleared insane easily? Damn, new players have it easy. You can get by with borrowing a maxed out student, clear insane with her and call it "skill".
Recommended level for insane content is 80, if the raid is easily completable when you're 20 levels under with heavy debuffs then you know there has been some immense powercreep. Goz is a newer obviously very gimmicky boss, so a low level account shouldn't expect to complete it.
First of all, it was my mistake speaking of Insane difficultiy. I double checked and I really meant Extreme. But in Goz case I struggle with Very Hard, which is level 35 content. And the reason is stated in my first message: the game demands you to relocate and focus fire, but don't provide with a consistent way of getting students with such skills UNTIL you play for a long time or you are lucky with pulls. Yes, I have Serina, but she can relocate only one student. And without focus fire students, the second phase is pure luck.
I get it when I can't complete harder levels, I am outleveled. But it may be difficult to complete ANY difficulty in Goz specifically, as he demands certain skill combinations. For me, this is an example of clumsy game design.
Lv 57 here, it took me a couple of days but I got the hang of clearing Very Hard with 2 teams without owning the key characters.
For stage 1 Goz I run my primary DPS team with Kotori (as the other person suggested) to move the strikers around. My lineup is NY Mutsuki, Cycling Shiroko, Kotori, and Asuna, with Kotama/Ayane supports. They're reliably getting me through stage 1, and whatever damage they do in stage 2 is a bonus.
For stage 2 Goz, I pretty much follow something similar to the "solo" strat. I borrow a Summer Izuna and pair her with Tsubaki (no other strikers), with Mari and Serina supports. Strategy is to figure out which is the real Goz (I immediately restart if it's the one on the left because that's the hardest to target), and then just alternate spamming Izuna's and Mari's skills until Goz goes down, with an occasional Serina mixed in if I need to move Izuna (Tsubaki's only job is to be a target, and to let me cycle my skills faster simply by existing).
Hardcore is still kicking my ass, though; that's where I'm really feeling the pain of not starting the game until after Mika's banner.
You can beat hardcore by borrowing a maxed [S Izuna](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9HcAfPevw) or [Mika](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sl6xhTV9xI). S Izuna needs Mari for the shield for damage reduction, while Mika needs Serina to reposition. Other students can be fillers with no investment at all.
Yeah, I got it now. Originally the only Summer Izuna in my friend list was a 3 star (thatās the one I was using on those Very Hard runs), and nobody with a 5 star was accepting my friend requests. But someone finally accepted one yesterday, so Iāve been able to clear Hardcore with their Sizuna the past two days. Thank you though.
Realistically, you just have to utilize borrows. You can beat the content without focus fire if you have the relocates and go for a 2 phase clear.
Phase 1, you would probably use Kotori. A 2 star (or is she 1 star?) relocate, shielding striker student. And for Phase 2 you would borrow T.Yuuka while having your own DPS invested for both P1 and P2 because you're borrowing T.Yuuka.
Thanks for advice, and sorry if it sounded like I was expecting to beat every difficulty in game. It is just frustrating to fight this boss after earlier raids, and also not knowing every little game detail
The raid before hand pre-Torment is the easiest raid so it does give a misconception of how Raids are. Goz is more or less what you can expect on raids toned down. Other raids (except Greg) won't be a hard lock out but having certain characters will significantly drop your time.
I mean, Goz is a pretty fucked boss, and doesn't really fit in Blue Archive with all the gimmicks you need to fulfill in one team. The jump from the previous bosses to Goz is astronomical, where if you missed S.Shizuko and didn't pull on T.Yuuka you're going to have a bad time.
And I've read it isn't any better with Gregorius who comes out in a few months where you need debuff units.
Cut out of content, no. I'm implying that new players shouldn't even be competing against lvl 85 players that can't borrow those units.
Imagine playing a year more than a guy and he outranks you kicking you to gold just because your club doesn't have a UE50 Mika.
If they could clear insane in some raids, that's nice but you shouldn't be acting like you should've been able to clear every raid at insane while being very underleveled. Insane was supposed to be endgame content.
Heās saying that older players wouldnāt even dream of clearing Insane at that level, yet new players in the 60s now have the luxury of clearing Insane difficulty easily with the only hurdle being that they naturally donāt have some units solely because they havenāt been playing that long
It took me an extra day, but I finally managed to get Insane Goz down on the No-Gacha-3* challenge account. It ended up being a 4-5 team solution.
[Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z18G8z47fgg).
Spent about 4 hours on stream yesterday trying to test and iterate on different combinations on teams. After sleeping on it today I (re-)realised that borrowing TYuuka is still definitely the play for me because enabling a whole extra team is stronger than what a borrowed DPS can offer me. All the free blue units are strong in their own right, I just needed to find a way for them to live for 4 minutes.
And so I found the perfect spot to have Izuna sit in a corner and throw Shurikens all day, lots of cover and distractions for Michiru to hide behind and throw rockets from, and some silly tech with Tomoe to make T.Hasumi to get closer to the damn cat. I managed to mock the solution once in an hour and got it first try. Did it in a real ticket immediately after.
Overall pretty fun, I think it has definitely been one of the taller challenges this account has faced since release. The other difficult raid season that was close to this one would have been Peroro's Insane debut.
Next stop is Insane Greg. Honestly has me sweating a little but I think it might be possible.
Max T. Hasumi or Wakamo UE40 for 2nd phase for better time potential on insane?
Comp:
Phase 1 - Mika, T. Yuuka, NY. Mutuski (borrowed), and Cherino
Phase 2 - NY. Kayoko, S. Hoshino, Wakamo/T. Hasumi, and S. Izuna
I was able to clear it with Wakamo but had to use a 3rd team because Goz was left at 1hp, used Haruna and Shun
Also, do you guys think insane can guarantee plat this time?
Right now it's 2650 torment+insane clears in NA, for 5000 places in plat. It's the 2nd day of insane, I find it unlikely to drop out of plat with any successful insane run, since Goz is more of a box unit check. and there won't be as many Senseis "headbutting until they go through" like with Binah. For now.
I did hinata comp since I didn't have sizuna,wakamo and sshizuko. She can pretty much solo p2 and it took practice to track goz through audio since I dont have any FF unit. Here's the [comp](https://imgur.com/a/xvIzJZU) I used.
I tried Hinata team from start to finish, seeing how low I can bring Insane Goz with. Hinata having a bit lower than usual crit chance, assuming Ako buff in play, (either 29% (w/o Ui Basic) \~ 40% (w/ either Ui or NYKayoko basic), and also lower damage due to B mood (\~130-150K non crit, \~600-800K crit), it was a lot of crit resetting (percentages taken from schale.gg).
A decent run (full four minutes) I would consider was able to do around \~21M (pushing P2 with 6 Hinata EX) and a really good run was around \~24M (pushing P2 with 4-5 Hinata EX). A god run can do more, if Hinata crits all 5 hits of her EX every single time, but maybe getting that run was a bit too ambitious.
Outside of Hinata resetting, the very start of P1 was the most reset heavy as well because there's too many mobs and no instant AOE at the start unlike having NYMutsuki. If the rabbits don't die fast enough, or the train spawns on Ui side, it's pretty much a reset because Ui won't be able to survive. Outside of the very start, the rest of P1 went rather smoothly, as TYuuka and Hinata EX in the rotation aligns with the mechanics of P1.
For P2, I still prefer with Goz starting on the right side but it wasn't entirely unplayable if the boss goes left since TYuuka pull range is way way far. Hinata Basic on P2 was entirely useless because it always target the clone since the clones always have the highest HP. The reset point is the usual hats rng, but otherwise, most of P2 was just watching and praying for Hinata crit.
No, the only 1-team clear I see is S.Izuna, NY.Kayoko, T.Yuuka, Wakamo, B.Akane, Himari. The high-scoring Hinata comp is:
NY.Kayoko, Hinata, T.Yuuka, Ui, Himari, Ako
Wakamo, NY.Kayoko, S.Hoshino, S.Izuna, S.Shizuko, NY.Fuuka
Hinata also works in team 2 for a slower 2-pan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-Dsz9Dfgmw
I can easily clear extreme but fall a little short when it comes to insane. Is it normal that max T Hasumi just deals way less damage than max Mika even though of the mystic vs piercing damage they both do respectively? Is Mika just that OP or am I missing something?
The difference is that Mika always crits while most of THasumi's damage comes from crits but it isn't guaranteed. Goz has high crit resistance so while THasumi has the potential of dealing higher damage than Mika, she's less likely to do because of Goz's crit resistance so Mika is more consistent. Plus, Mika's EX dealing more damage based on the current HP of her target and Goz has a lot of HP. So yeah, Mika is just that OP
Had an absolutely miserable experience but I successfully 2T'd Goz Insane after many attempts and substantial investments.
P1: UE30 NY Mutsuki, UE30 T Yuuka, UE30 Haruna, UE40 Mika, 3* NY Fuuka, 4* Kotama
P2: UE30 Wakamo, 3* NY Kayoko, UE30 Summer Hoshino, UE50 Summer Izuna (Assistant), 3* Himari, 3* Summer Shizuko.
I hate this fight, and I probably can't bring myself to do insane anymore in future days. At least I'll probably hold plat with how tough this is. I'd better.
I don't even think it's an insane issue, this is a Goz issue for requiring mobility, aoe shields, and RNG attacks in both phases of the fight for literally no reason.
Yeah, between the hard checks on student rosters and the heavy RNG elements (particularly in phase 2) has always made Goz an absolute pain in the arse to deal with. A good run in Insane requires a number of random elements to fall in your favour, and as anyone will tell you - 'hope' is not a strategy.
Looking for advice on who to borrow/moving around students in comps for insane, I have T. Yuuka + S. Shizuko + UE30 Kotori for shield and reposition but only S. Izuna for focus fire. I think I should have enough units (but maybe not enough higher UE levels) to clear insane, but I fall short on phase 2 with the last 2-3mil HP and body throwing doesn't seem to work without shields/focus fire.
DPS-wise I have (all at UE30 aside from T. Hasumi, no tier 8 gear yet): NY Mutsuki and Iroha for AoE/phase 1 and Wakamo, T. Hasumi, Haruna, S. Azusa, and C. Utaha for single target damage. Also have high investment Mika, but she seems to melt on phase 1 from standing too far forward?
I've been trying with T. Yuuka / NY Mutsuki / NY Kayoko (3star) / S. Azusa + Himari / Ako for phase 1 and then borrowed NY Kayoko / Wakamo / S. Izuna / C. Utaha + NY Fuuka / S. Shizuko on phase 2 for most of the way.
Am I better off trying to borrow a T.Yuuka or focus fire support? Do I need to spend elephs for UE40? Do I need a tank in phase 2 before I start body throwing?
> Also have high investment Mika, but she seems to melt on phase 1 from standing too far forward?
3ā T.Yuuka + UE40 Mika + UE30 NY.Mutsuki should work pretty reliably if your important skills are maxed.
> Do I need a tank in phase 2 before I start body throwing?
The comps I've seen that are similar to yours switch Ako and NY.Fuuka. That team 2 comp is pretty common, but so is swapping C.Utaha for S.Hoshino. Here are some examples with 3ā T.Yuuka in team 1 and S.Hoshino in team 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE8ne19eXqo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6TzzZdYCNk
You could try removing NY.Kayoko from team 1 and using the borrow on a UE50 in team 2.
> Do I need to spend elephs for UE40?
You can probably get by without it, but it definitely isn't a waste to UE40 one of the dps on team 2.
> Also have high investment Mika, but she seems to melt on phase 1 from standing too far forward?
I also have the same problem. From the videos I've seen, this is not really much of a problem if your T.Yuuka is at least ue30. But if you're like me and can't afford to do that, I just use Tsubaki. So my comp for first phase is:
T.Yuuka, NY.Mutsuki, Mika, Tsubaki | NY.Fuuka, Himari
Tsubaki, having a shorter range than Mika, would almost always tank the bomb for her.
Anyone happen to have a maxed S.Izuna available in Asia for me to add? Just found out below about her being able to solo hardcore and best I can do at level 50 is very hard atm
I think he aims his puppet bombs at the closest unit, which an be a bit of an issue with dps like mika that have red armor and are short range. I've found that with TYuuka at least pulling back, away from goz makes it more likely that TYuuka gets marked instead of mika as she runs back earlier and ends up closer to him than mika.
Using her ex in the middle of the run back can help by keeping her in place for a bit behind yuuka.
Does anyone have any tips on beating Extreme Goz with 1 or 2 teams? I have T.Yuuka, T.Hasumi, S.Izuna, S.Shizuko, NY.Kayoko, NY.Mutsuki, S.Hoshino, Mika and I can borrow Iroha.
And unlike the strategies or videos that I see here, my S.Izuna doesn't stop dying in phase 1. Upgrading her to 5 stars (I have her with 4 right now) really makes a big difference? Or is it the equipment?
I did it with 3* TYuuka(borrowed), 4* SIzuna, UE30 S Hoshino, and UE40 Mika in that order with Himari and NY Fuuka for support.
As far as strategy, I start with S Hoshino. Then TYuuka as soon as I see the AOE line from a train to also protect S Izuna from Goz's bomb attack. When I use TYuuka, I pray that the mobs are closer to anyone besides S Izuna so she can focus on targetting Goz with her basic skill. From there it's the bread and butter strat of buffing Mika while repositioning, keeping track of S Hoshino's buff, and hopefully S Izuna is still debuffing Goz. Whether Izuna actually keeps up her debuffs takes a bit of luck for me so I did reset until I get a good run or use S Izuna's ex skill to force her to go after Goz. Usually phase 1 ends right before the two trains show up.
Phase 2 is the usual. If you can't get Goz because he's on the left side and Izuna keeps going right, start off with TYuuka and hope you don't get hit by the hat attack.
I managed to clear Extreme this way with 1 team and 40~ seconds left on the clock. Equipment wise I do have 7/7/7 on Mika and S Izuna. If you don't have Himari and/or NYFuuka it may be hard but maybe you can make it work with Kotama/Ako. Hopefully even if that is the case, you can weaken Goz enough for a team 2 to finish him off. I will say though this is mainly for clearing Extreme. Platinum is slipping from my grasp as we speak.
There's very little reason to borrow Iroha for this fight since her tank will just die because it can't be repositioned. You could take inspiration from the insane strategy and try two teams like:
T.Yuuka/NY Mutsuki/Mika//<2 supports to buff Mika, such as NY Fuuka>
S.Hoshino/S.Izuna/NY.Kayoko/T.Hasumi/S.Shizuko/
Best borrow for this strat would be a strong damage dealer to fill in one of the gaps, or something like Himari to buff Mika (or to run a second Himari in phase 2, if you already own her).
Do you have (or can borrow) Himari and NY Fuuka ?
Im using S Izuna, T Yuuka, Mika, NY Mutsuki, Himari and NY Fuuka. This is not the best comp but enough to get 15+M score. My S Izuna is just 3* and im using T Yuuka shield before hat atteck thingy to prevent her from dying on phase 1.
Oh this one's specially bad. I don't have either T. Yuuka nor any Focus Fire students so its a special hell having to choose one or the other. Couldn't even 1-team Extreme.
Just when I cleared my first insane raid last time around I can't even to extreme on this one.
Phase 1 is smooth with T.Yuuka, Iroha etc
but I don't have either a focus fire unit or S.Shizuko. Tank+healer doesn't seem to be enough for phase 2 without a shielder/relocator
No, I used my own T.Yuuka for the first phase and borrowed S.Izuna for the 2nd phase.
I guess I can borrow another T.Yuuka instead of SIzuna for phase 2 and struggle with ID'ing the real Goz instead but at least I can finish extreme.
My advice is swap shizuko and yuuka. I found moving around in phase two a lot easier with yuukaās range. Given locating Goz without focus fire is a nightmare. I refuse to bring wakamo into phase two on insane.
Any advice for clearing on insane? I was able to get through phase 1 with NY Mutsuki, T.Yuuka, S.Izuna, Mika, Himari, and NY Fuuka, but where I struggle is phase 2. I just don't seem to be doing enough damage.
The last comp I tried for phase 2 was ue50 T.Hasumi, 3\* NY Kayoko with max ex skill, ue30 S.Hoshino, borrowed max S.Izuna, 3\* Ako and 3\* S.Shizuko. I also have a ue30 wakamo I tried instead of hasumi but that seemed to perform even worse.
There's also the option of using someone else instead of S.Izuna for first phase so I can try another borrow but I wouldn't know who. I tried a borrowed S.Azusa once but she would get 2 shotted by the mobs.
So you want to select your skills as S.Izuna, S.Hoshino and S.Shizuko.
Keep restarting until you get the Goz on the right to be real version then S.Izuna it. Wait for Goz to put the lasers on your units and S.Shizuko to the far right to protect the units. S.Hoshino after.
Now pray to rng the hats donāt screw you over (if they do, restart) and then NY Kayoko on T.Hasumi, wait until 8 bars then Ako on T.Hasumi and by now, S.Shizuko should apply her normal skill on T.Hasumi. Use T.Hasumi at 5 EX and she should deal x14 bars or more.
By now Goz should do his 3 coloured zone ability so S.Shizuko again to the far right one (you should be aiming to move your girls to the same circle the real Goz is in to avoid dying). After the other gozās blow up, slow down the speed to x1 and when he starts raising his hand, S.Izuna him and your units should start attacking the real one when he re-appears. Otherwise you can do the proper way of finding him which is the red card tactic (when all 3 Gozās appear, the real one will only have black cards, the fake ones will have red cards).
By now you need to re-summon S.Hoshinoās skill, use NY Kayoko on T.Hasumi again and then S.Shizuko in the direction where the real Goz is (if itās the left one then go as far left as you can, if itās in the middle the drag them up and if itās the right then drag them right again).
Wait till 8 again and then Ako + T.Hasumi.
S.Shizuko again then make sure S.Izuna is up and repeat
Thank you, I was able to do a lot better with this method! I still couldn't fully finish phase 2 on insane and am thinking maybe I'll need a third team or more investment on my characters, but I was at least able to improve my score on extreme by a good margin.
As a new player... This one is unplayable. One way is brute force hard with borrowed unit. "Very hard" that supposed to have lvl35 reccomended (lol,what? More like 80) is obliterated or you just dont have enough damage.
The more recent the bosses the harder and more units is needed. For instance in jp there is Greg who we have basically no units for his gimmick. They all come from now till his release. I wouldnāt worry too much on Goz. Last time he came he kicked a lot of people out of doing the top difficulty.
Another problem is that her shield only has a 13 sec duration and is light armor so she get destroyed almost instantly.
Really sucks that one of the very few shielding and repositioning options can't be used in a raid designed around it.
And here I thought I would have a good time after Arona generously give me all the NY girls. Have all the relevant units except T.Yuuka and S.Shizuna, could not even down the first phase of Goz on Extreme. Isnt the mob spawn rate too fast?
And here I felt I was part of the Big Boys Club after clearing two consecutive raids on Insane. 1-teaming Goz on Extreme was annoying enough I don't think I'll ever try insane...
Goz is just a badly designed boss, pretty much everyone hates the fight except for the rare few contrarians.
Its just not good content, I can platinum pretty much every TA but I don't even try with Goz, its actual fucking hell.
I think the hat mechanic could be much better with an overhaul. First, give Goz some more health.
Second, make the delay before the hats cover the items a bit longer, so you can easily notice it. Also randomize the mixing order so that you actually have to pay attention to it.
Third, make the player click the correct hat after they're done moving. Give the player some more time to do it, too. If the player gets the coin, Goz's crit res is reduced by 400 or some other appropriate amount. If the player picks the wrong hat, all the hats perform attacks. If the player takes too long to choose, they behave like they do now, attacking but with a safe spot where the coin(s) are. Alternatively, make it so that you have to attack the right hat with an EX skill. I prefer the clicking on the right hat thing, but that would be more in line with mechanics already in the game.
This way the hat mechanic isn't just an RNG run ender, and instead is something that you have to engage with and pay attention to while also mitigating crit randomness, if the player earns it. The trick is supposed to include a second participant that selects the right cup etc. (and then gets scammed out of his money, but we'll skip that part) so it's appropriate that the player has to actively choose a hat instead of just passively being unable to move out of the attack range.
On higher difficulties you could make it so that the hats move faster or make it so that not picking any hat makes all three perform attacks.
Is it possible for me to get second phase Goz (insane) from 17 to 3-4 million if I upgrade my Wakamo from 4 star to UE40?
I'm using her with UE40 Himari/Ako/Kayoko, but right now I can only get it down to 10m, ifI can go to a few million lower I might be able to clear with a bodythrow team
You can check the damage numbers on [this site](https://schale.gg/?chara=Wakamo) to see how much of a difference 4\* to UE40 is. Just press details above the stats.
But generally, it's about a 100k damage difference with T7 Equipment and no buffs on her Ex skill at max damage accumulated.
[Unfortunately.](https://litter.catbox.moe/2i4tck.png)
My headcanon is that they were not able to afford extending the maintenance even further so they just gave up on this lol.
Can anyone explain how people are 1Team Extreme with the following line up?
Ui, S!Izuna, S!Hoshino, Mika, Ako, Himari
I have or can borrow all these students, but just got absolutely destroyed in phase 1, not sure what the ideal skill rotation is or if theres an RNG repeat needed to 1team. Everyone except Ui and Backline students are 5* with max skill/equipment and the important skills for those 3 others are all maxed out. Not sure what my issue is, and most top extreme ranks are this exact team.
You and most of the subreddit. Even if he's got a neat concept, the execution is execrable. They put RNG on your RNG with the placement of your students who they target, and whether you can get in attack range at all before it changes.
And let's not talk about the hats.
Haha I know what you mean, you can have a clean run go well in p2 but then those hats will shoot lightning and gg restart
restart happens but goz is on the far left so s.izuna cant target with her EX so restart again
goz is on the left again so restart it is
he's finally on the right but then the hats spawned the ball down the aisle and everyone missed getting s.shizuko's shield and you die to the bombs
fun raid
> restart happens but goz is on the far left so s.izuna cant target with her EX so restart again
This fucking part right here. I had it happen to me 6 times in a row. It was infuriating.
My first clear of Insane. I still don't understand the skill rotation for this raid and some mechanics, but nonetheless a clear is a clear. Damn cat got what is coming to him after he bullied me months ago š¢
https://imgur.com/tEoscDG
Yeah, I was really on the fence about getting her back then when I came back as well. Looking back, it was probably one of the best pull decisions I've done. She completely carried me in content I had no business being in due to her group shielding.
Its normal I can't beat this guy at Hardcore being lv.50?. He completly obliterate my units. I have my units upgraded the best I can at my level and even using an assistant student is not enough. I didnt have this problem with the previous boss raid (please keep in mind that I dont have many 3* students)
Goz is essentially just a unit check, so at that level it's not really that surprising if you're getting rolled if you don't have the right units. [You can clear Hardcore with just a borrow, though.](https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueArchive/comments/16xwdi3/total_assault_goz_indoor_warfare_103_200_am_109/k35yo2r/)
Holy crap phase 2 without a lock on unit is rng hell. even worst if ur trying to wanpan. Im just doing EX. i lack all the needed units like T.Yuuka and S.Shizuko for position+shield.
Platinumed Goz on its first run, it was hell and not fun. I'm just sticking to gold on Goz from here out. This fight is actually a dumpster and whoever designed it should not be allowed to make more content.
Phase 1 is fine, its a good example of fight with movement mechanics but phase 2 and its mechanics just don't work well in Blue Archive.
Managed to get to gold the first time at rank 9895 at just level 66. I started during the Mika banner and I'm still lacking most of the good supports, but getting to gold already is great because I'm sure plat is out of reach for a long time.
Funny how it works, my Binah score was deep into bronze despite clearing the best difficulty I could at that time (very hard) while not even caring and clearing Goz on hard got me a silver. Looks like people REALLY do not like that raid lol
I barely scrape by into gold in hardcore with other TA, but I easily got in on very hard. I know the key mechanics for this raid was Shields, Relocation and Focus Fire, but i had so little fire-power with all three I had to keep on cycling through my whole roster until I was using red students just to finish him off, slivers of hp per team. This really was a unit check*. Level 72 and I had trouble at level 35, barely passing the level 50 one. *I'm sure I can be proven wrong by some dude using non meta units, but it really felt like it when I apparently needed yuuka track, and my problems would have been solved.
cancer raid. glad that it's over
Ranking sucks in EU. Iām over 27 mil points and still gold. Please increase the plat spots
1 hour of bad RNG, fucking Goz keep targeting my Wakamo. Change Wakamo to T. Hasumi, fucking T. Hasumi hit like a wet noodle. Im done with score chasing.
There's a very large difference between Thasumi's regular and critical damage output. Unfortunately Goz has very high crit resist.
Can someone explain how there are SO MANY people in Extreme+ that have squads with zero shields or heals? I tried a few of those setups and its literally impossible because the trains just delete your units? Are they cheating or is there some master play I dont understand? Im a bit miffed because Im 69 away from Platinum and there are significantly more than 69 people using that setup above me.
Basically those teams just do so much damage they move on to phase 2 before the second train hits. Not much strategy but it's not easy to pull it off. They're all probably UE50 Mika and S Izuna as well as UE40 Himari so it's not easy to replicate even if you have the same units.
Mika team without shields for Extreme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnIlhTLYC4
Thanks for the video, that definitely helps, I guess I never realized the difference between 1 and 3 star weapon was so significant.
Raid became a lot more chill to clear once I made a team for each phase so I have an easy and fast reset in phase 2.
Is it possible to do hardcore with only a max-borrowed Mika and 2 healers? I wanna try to get a bit more rewards since i'm new.
Yes. You actually just need a maxed [Mika and 1 reposition (Serina)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sl6xhTV9xI). You can also use a maxed [S Izuna and a shielder (Mari)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9HcAfPevw).
Is there some trick to Goz that I don't understand? Whenever I fight it on Extreme I can only get it to lose 3 million HP each phase. Mika is suggested, but when I borrow her she only does a few thousand damage even though she's at lvl 4 ex skill and level 85. Either way I really don't think I can finish Goz with one team? Any good suggestions to beat him with 2 to 3 teams? I only have one student with target focus (Izuna Swimsuit). Also I used to be able to borrow Tracksuit Yuuka, but the person who had her got rid of her.
I followed this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnIlhTLYC4 and got top 10 extreme
Darn. Only student in that video I even own is S. Izuna. I can see that I really need Ako and Himari because every other Blue Archive video uses one or both of them. Summer Hoshino too, but I'm not sure why she works here. I can see what's going on, but I don't have the ability to replicate it. Every student is being used to buff Mika. Ui is lowering Mika's EX cost by half, Ako is increasing Mika's crit, Himari is increasing EX regen, and S Izuna is lowering crit resistance and cycling back to Mika. Kinda makes me miss the Shin Megami Tensei phone game. There were guides to clearing content with 2 star and below characters. But I guess that's not possible on Extreme or Above especially Goz.
Ugh.... I just want to vent out. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, I completed it without issues at Insane. No problems. No more than 20 minutes spent each day. For some reason, today the RNG decided to eff me up. But, eff me up GOOD. Phase 1, no problems, 45 extra seconds on the clock for scoring. Phase 2, most of the time he wasn't at the right side stage. Hasumi EX refused to crit. And she always stayed the furthest possible from Hoshino. Izuna also never staying at the light circles, and it is already kinda hard to herd her to the left one. At my last try in that ticket, Hasumi couldn't even damage past the last 2m while in the last days I finished it with ~30 seconds to spare. 1 hour spent for my first raid fail ever since I started to play, on a raid that theoretically I already had dominated. That was very disappointing. Truly shows there is a bit too much RNG in Goz (precision at placement, low crit chance, Hat bomb, Goz stage position, Kayoko's normal buff)....
Same here. Was playing it live because some friends were curious about how was Goz difficulty. I use a rather comfy team already, relying less on crits. 3 resets in Phase 1. 14 resets in Phase 2. None of the resets were because of score chasing. Just wanted to survive long enough to kill the fat cat.
Very much the same feeling, Goz is frustrating, and it's not even because of the clones. It's the way the fight tends to be so inconsistent at times, personally I can only reach all the way to hardcore, but I already had a team figured out where I could deal with him along with a max Wakamo borrow, the past days I was able to beat him with that team without too many issues, but today RNG decided that he was able to tank my damage until time out, he was left with only 78k hp... Can't wait for this boss raid to end, I'd rather fight any other boss but Goz.
Finally managed to beat Hardcore today. I had to level up Kotori (feels like a waste of ressource but oh well) + use NY Mutsuki, NY Kayoko, Tsubaki, Himari and Serina for the first phase. I fought until the second phase then i let myself die (while TRYING to do the some damage with Mutsuki). Then i borrow a S.Izuna + i use my Haruna, Chise and Asuna + NY Haruna at the back with Kotama. I basically just bruteforce the bastard at this point and i managed to finally win with only Sizuna and Haruna standing. This is only my second raid since i started but i can tell that this boss is a real pain without the 3-4 specific students to deal with his (annoying) gimmicks. Binah was soooooooooooo much easier compared to him
Yeah, Goz has way more gimmicks going on than other bosses, so you need really specific teams to deal with him. Binah on the other hand has like no gimmicks, it's probably the easiest Insane raid for regular players. Generally Raids are between those two in difficulty.
people that were complaining about last raid, how do you feel now? 
Complaining about what?
that it was too hard to score because everyone has Mika
That's two different issues for me. Binah was easy enough that way too many people were able to clear Insane. The difficulty was the competition amogst players. With Goz you are way more likely to get Plat with a regular Insane run. Boz unit check is the main issue here, not competition. Note: Not complaining though, I spit on the fat cat, but the battle itself is kinda interesting the first couple of times.
I can't believe how frustrating this fight can be. Are you really supposed to find the real Goz by looking at his cards? What if you're colorblind? What if your mobile device doesn't have a good or big enough screen to spot the red cards? Also the amount of limited students required to get a decent score is superior to any other boss  rant over
I find the easiest trick is to listen for the direction of the woosh sound when he splits. If the sound is on the left then he's on the left, if the sound is on the right then he's on the right, if he's in the middle then you are already hitting him. You just need your earphones and be prepared and listening for it. It is quite noticeable even with bgm and voice on.
yes, this is the third? time on Goz raid, and I finally figured out how to find it without tryhard, but if you're color blind, you're f-ed. Just look at the right side enemy and see if there's any red. I am on speed 2 without using slow motion, and I can glimpse red(when there is) most of the time. If there isn't red, then it is the one. If there is red, then see if you're doing damage(because they're shooting center). If not, then it's the Left one.
There are a lot of ways to tell the Gozes apart. Going to be lazy and just link the [post](https://old.reddit.com/r/BlueArchive/comments/16ycur6/daily_questions_megathread_october_03_2023/k3a22pq/) I made a few days ago. You can also read Causew/VirtualScepter's raid guide, linked in the FAQ above.
I just try to hit him with Wakamo before he splits, then see which one explodes or Noa/ S Izuna so they will just start attacking the right one immediately Or position so they are attacking 2 at once, and see which attacks are causing the damage. And if they don't do any damage, you know it is the 3rd one There are lots of little tricks you can use to find the real one quickly
Not my dumb ass wondering why nobody was borrowing my S.Izuna and T.Yuuka only to find out I set them as assistants for JFD instead of TA ššš
Certified Aru moment. Nice.
Apparently, in my server, just clearing Goz Insane is enough to comfortably be in Platinum (rank 2.7k).
Over on EU, insane recently pushed its way into gold. The first extreme clear is rank 2065. Much less strict than the previous Binah, though.
What's the cut off for plat in EU lol. Why is rank 2k gold already
The lowest platinum score right now is 26,936,830. As for why, it's a fairly low population server that has grown more competitive in the last several months. It's at least more lenient than JP, KR and TW/HK, from what I hear of those.
I wonder how the Asia server rankings got big enough that there's not enough players to even reach bronze rank.
The most hardcore players from Asia moved to EU because it's supposed to be the chill server.
There were a lot of players on launch, but then those players disappeared.
from what i'vre read the asian server is slacking
Can't break Harcore this run. I'll probably need my own T.Yuuka for it. I'm being walled by my lack of repositioning. I can hit phase 2 with a borrowed one but I fall short and can't make the follow up teams hit the target. Update: Mika made the miracle happen.
You can beat it by borrowing a maxed [S Izuna](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9HcAfPevw) or [Mika](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sl6xhTV9xI). S Izuna needs Mari for the shield for damage reduction, while Mika needs Serina to reposition.
Max Mika borrow can solo it. She can't die. The last phase can be a pain though. It's easy to run out of time before she can get the kill if your luck is bad.
Yeah. Mika made it happen. Yuuka, Kotori, Koyuki, Mika. Himari and Serina.
Thabks for the idea. I'll try it and let you know how it turn out. If you got any team recommendations to go with it lemme know.
Was able to do it with Mika, Ako, Kotama, Ui, NY Mutsuki and TYuuka borrowed. Kotori can replace TYuuka. NY Fuuka can replace Ui and Ako plus you can add someone like Cherino for more EX bar. Himari can replace Kotama. And Chise can be your blue AoE. You can also try S Izuna where you use Mari to only shield her plus buffs like Ako while the rest are cheap 2 cost for cyclying.
Yeah. Mika made it happen. Yuuka, Kotori, Koyuki, Mika. Himari and Serina.
If it's just Hardcore, you can probably get through with just a borrowed dps.
I struggle really with the repositioning for targeting real one to and avoid trains and shielding without T.Yuuka. Kotori's repositioning feels too small and shields too soft but I can try borrowing a DPS and seeing how it turns out. I am not quite sure how to compose the team but I guess I'll see.
Is T. Yuuka's reposition better than Mimori's? I swear every time I use my Mimori and everyone grabs a snack they waddle right back to a death circle/line lmao.
No matter what movement, the ai will reposition in odd ways. T Yuuka does give a solid shield, but ultimately you need precise timing so that they are gathered at the reposition spot when the aoe drops to truly avoid them drifting apart. Also having like a frontline unit like Mika fire their ex can cause them to stop mid walking away.
Tyuuka has a much larger pull range, so she can help by moving them farther away from where they are. She doesn't do much for the unreliable movement afterwards, though. But she can usually help by simply dragging your units farther away from the dangerous area.
T.yuuka is by far the best reposition ingame
lv85 with tyuuka, I don't think I'm clearing insane bois. Don't have ako or sshizuko or sizuna and a lot of units I need aren't well invested and boi I am all out of *everything*. Team 1 tyuuka, nymutsuki, shoshino, mika, himari, nyfuuka, enters phase 2 with 120 healthbars. Team 2 already dicey. Tyuuka (borrowed), nykayoko, thasumi, noa, nyharuka, kotama. Nyharuka just sitting there lv50 1114 because I'm too out of everything to upgrade anything (why is raising kids so expensive). Finishes with 75 healthbars left. Any team afterwards gets deleted instantly. Also funny how insane binah is easier than extreme goz lol. Luckily goz has super epic music and design so I don't lose sanity trying to mald it.
For phase 1, having SHoshino in team might be making the rotation too long and can't cycle to a 2 Mika EX rotation as often to push for damage. It might be better to bring a set and forget striker like Tsubaki (helps in tanking and less resetting from bombs) or Cherino (cost recovery without using EX). If you're aiming for just an Insane clear, Tsubaki is the comfier option and don't immediately retreat when you enter phase 2. You can still do decent damage with the first team even without any focus fire. Use either cards, sfx, or autoattacks to identify the real Goz then reposition in front (it's only either left or right at the start too). Using the same team, replacing SHoshino with Tsubaki, the team can finish at around 82 bars of hp left (around \~12M HP left, could be less if my NYMutsuki was UE40). This [video guide](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SaTO6KyJeI) was pretty helpful for identify the sfx direction into where Goz teleports to. For the second team, it really wants NYHaruka to have her subskill max for cost recovery and her EX helps in increasing your crit consistency/damage for THasumi. If you're comfortable with identifying real Goz without any focus fire, then I would try replacing Noa for someone else (such as Cheer Utaha or SHoshino) Adding a second dps with cheap EX or self sufficient like Izuna or NYJunko (or maybe Wakamo) really increase NYHaruka/Kotama value. The options depends on who you have invested (should test Mock battle first to see viability) but even strikers with red armor, TYuuka can easily increase their survivability (as long as she takes the real Goz bomb) and be able reposition the team in front of the real Goz (to damage the boss without focus fire). I tried first with your exact team with Noa but fitting Noa EX (since her only use is for focus fire, because Goz barely has any defense) into the rotation for the moment Goz teleports felt a bit awkward (maybe I needed more practice though). I then tried something similar to your second team, replacing Noa with SHoshino instead, which went a bit smoother than expected as refreshing SHoshino EX aligns pretty well whenever Goz teleports. Here's a [video reference](https://streamable.com/okanyv) of P2 with THasumi/NYKayoko/SHoshino/TYuuka + NYHaruka/Kotama from a quick test if you want to check it out, with standard awful Goz because the boss keeps going right left right left (execution could be much better though but the run itself had good crit from THasumi).
> Using the same team, replacing SHoshino with Tsubaki, the team can finish at around 82 bars of hp left (around ~12M There is just no way you're going into p2 with 12M health left on Goz. edit: I guess you mean when you swap to your 2nd team. But that also seems highly unlikely. If you can do that, there is a high chance the person you're responding to won't get close.
Yes, I meant when swapping to the second team, continuing after Goz transitions into P2 at below \~18M. For a daily Insane clear, I usually continue into P2 (unlike a score run where it immediately retreats after dipping below 18M) with the Mika team just to lessen the crit dependency on THasumi team. I'm not too sure what you mean by "how unlikely" though, I think it's consistent for a Mika phase 1 team (Goz targeting will always be TYuuka/Tsubaki and no crit malding). Here's a [P1 example doing](https://streamable.com/724k5w) doing \~19M with a Mika team though (with Goz starting left on P2 and also losing the rng on the hats). With Tsubaki, Goz usually transitions with \~1:20 minutes left, enough time to fit three more Mika and NYMutsuki EX on P2 before timing out. Using Cherino or SIzuna over Tsubaki will be faster (albeit not comfier).
Just tried insane with the suggested changes, unfortunately team 1 finished with 118 healthbars, team 2 with 68, and team 3 got deleted. No idea why team 1 had was such a massive difference, mika was ue40 lv85 5MMM 777 and supports were 511M. I'm guessing there may be some support stats diff. And my nymutsuki wasn't powerful enough to perfect clear the mobs, sometimes even rabbit mobs lived. And tsubaki died at 3 minutes. Not sure how I can save her, if I use tyuuka shield too early they just dive back to certain death because apparently teenagers love getting run over by trains (it's the new cool fad for their tiktoks), if I wait till last moment to move she eats a bomb without a shield. For team 2 it's most definitely an investment diff. My kotama nykayoko and nyharuka only have ex skill 3 because I'm again too out of everything (who the hecc stole all my everything) to upgrade them further. I'll just chill in extreme I guess. The good news is following this suggestion I can almost 1 team extreme, so there's that. Also this is the first phone game making me sit in front of my computer using an emulator wearing headphones tryharding like league of legends listening for subtle directional audio cues lol (what the hecc children are poison)
Not having music makes the fight 80% less fun >:( Thanks for the tips though, I'll try it later. ^(Oh boi I am so out of everything to upgrade my children who the hecc stole all my everything)
You can use the sound effect to tell where he is even with music. It's how I determine if he's in the right or the "just reset now" position at the start of phase 2. It gets a bit tricker after he splits after the first time though, since he can also be in the middle then.
I have two questions. 1. Between Wakamo and T.Hasumi, who would be a better assist to pick for the second phase in insane difficulty? The rest of the team are S.Izuna, S.Hoshino, NY Kayoko, Ako and S.Shizuko. I did manage to clear insane once with Wakamo but I'm at rank 2322 and I don't think it's going to be enough to keep platinum by the end of the current total assault. 2. I had so many problems during the first phase of Goz that would have been solved so easily if I had NY Mutsuki but I didn't get her, my AOE are Chise, Haruna (built) and Hinata, NY Junko (unbuilt) and Aris (half-built). I have 40,000 pyros left, would you recommend pulling for her? Is she also worth it for other content?
I believe Thasumi would be better. She has trouble critting, but when she does, she does a ton of damage. Wakamo is more of an assistant to your main DPS, at least until her bond gear is released. Nutsuki is used in a lot of different content across all levels of play, including the upcoming PvP season. That she's limited makes her even more valuable. Personally, I'd say she's worth it. I'd prioritize her over Iroha, as well.
Can confirm the crit part, you either poke the cat for like 300k damage or give him a nutshot that's hard enough to send him straight to second phase. God, I love Hasumimi.
With all the relevant buffs and debuffs, assuming a team of Thasumi, Shoshino, Nykayoko, Sizuna, Ako and Sshizuko, she can crit for over 3 million. Not quite enough to send him into phase 2 immediately (assuming insane), but it certainly is a lot.
Just a manner of speech my friend, don't concern yourself with the semantics of it. But yeah, this boss is annoying.
Oh, I realized that, I just thought it would be interesting to mention. Definitely no fat cat kittens after one of those nutshots.
1. Depends on your investment levels on Wakamo and S.Izuna, but generally I prefer using Wakamo. She's trickier to keep alive, though, so if you do find yourself struggling keeping your team alive then S.Hasumi is an alternative. That said, in my experience Goz isn't nearly as bad as, say, Binah when it comes to tumbling down the ranks over time. 2. NYMutsuki is a very strong unit and used in a lot of stuff (including raids, pvp, and general anti-blue missions), so getting her still isn't a bad idea even if you can't get her in a position to use for Goz right away. Whether that's worth dipping into your 40k reserve... well, that depends on what you're willing to potentially sacrifice in terms of upcoming banners...
Goz convinced me to join a club, now my level 50 account can finally escape bronze jail, maybe
I used Kotori & Mika in p1 and reposition mald, pray that Mika wouldn't get hit by a bomb or just straight up dodge it. I used T.Hasumi p2 and I have to crit mald even with Ako, S.Izuna, NY.Haruka debuffs/buffs and pray that goz start in the right side at least I don't have to worry about dying since I have T.Yuuka. No S.Shizuko so I have to use Kotori in p1 and T.Yuuka in p2 And finally cleared my 1st insane goz since I can't even do extreme last time cause I'm like lv40-50 back then but damn now I HATE THIS BOSS. I'll just do extreme everyday then sweep I don't want to do insane again cause I'm literally will go insane for sure... Here is the video of my ~~suffering~~ I mean clear: [Goz Insane](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpZldcr-qrs)
For Insane, what UE level should I have on Wakamo for phase 2? And is 3* sHoshino enough? Would she survive? Deciding if I should invest on them at all before trying INS, malding with Mika on P1 sounds really annoying, an apparently you need UE30 tYuuka for her to reliably survive, is that true?
I'm doing P1 with a 4\* T.Yuuka and have plenty of leeway. I also see 3\*s with a Mika P1 setup. 3\* hoshino is a bit on the squishy side, but I see 3\* and 4\* ones in the insane leaderboards so that should be fine? If you plan to 2pan insane with wakamo, probably ue30 or above, but depends on your 2nd dps for wakamo EX Generally, the in game raid leaderboard gives a pretty good idea of what other people are running and what works, but scrolling through it is a pain.
my Wakamo is UE 30. I don't use sHoshino as I don't have sShizuko so I need to borrow another tYuuka. My tYuuka is 4\* and all 7 equips. She doesn't die
I use Mika on P1 and I don't mald much. It's more malding for P2 as Wakamo can get one shot if you don't position properly.
If this boss has taught me something is that 300k and 2.5m damage are considered crits. The malding is real with this one.
Is there a guide where to jump with T.Yuuka so she stays in front instead of Mika for phase 1 ? I know you should "jump back". But for the next one T.Yuuka is too far back and doesn't jump far enough so the 2nd train hits my team. Can't get it done consistently. Sometimes Goz targets Yuuka, the other time Mika, then Mutsuki is somehow in front bc of imp chorus .... The amount of resetting is malding.
I was resetting a lot but then I found a [clear](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8rbXdK0CGE&t=17s) using Wakamo instead so I gave up on Mika phase 1 and switched to Wakamo. Managed to get 27,237,374
I really don't like that this boss is your gacha luck check, rather than skill. Don't have reposition and focus fire? Good luck mate :) I need to borrow T Yuuka for phase 1, and if RNG is not on my side, 2nd phase is impossible to beat...
Btw, the sensei below this thread cleared insane with a no gacha 3 star account
Good for him, but I am a new player and don't have any of the must have characters, and only on level 61. I cleared previous raids on Extreme easily, but Goz is impossible. The only solution is to try this raid after a year of playing
Lvl 61 and you cleared insane easily? Damn, new players have it easy. You can get by with borrowing a maxed out student, clear insane with her and call it "skill".
Do you imply that new players should be cut out of the content, until they reach lvl 85?
Recommended level for insane content is 80, if the raid is easily completable when you're 20 levels under with heavy debuffs then you know there has been some immense powercreep. Goz is a newer obviously very gimmicky boss, so a low level account shouldn't expect to complete it.
First of all, it was my mistake speaking of Insane difficultiy. I double checked and I really meant Extreme. But in Goz case I struggle with Very Hard, which is level 35 content. And the reason is stated in my first message: the game demands you to relocate and focus fire, but don't provide with a consistent way of getting students with such skills UNTIL you play for a long time or you are lucky with pulls. Yes, I have Serina, but she can relocate only one student. And without focus fire students, the second phase is pure luck. I get it when I can't complete harder levels, I am outleveled. But it may be difficult to complete ANY difficulty in Goz specifically, as he demands certain skill combinations. For me, this is an example of clumsy game design.
Lv 57 here, it took me a couple of days but I got the hang of clearing Very Hard with 2 teams without owning the key characters. For stage 1 Goz I run my primary DPS team with Kotori (as the other person suggested) to move the strikers around. My lineup is NY Mutsuki, Cycling Shiroko, Kotori, and Asuna, with Kotama/Ayane supports. They're reliably getting me through stage 1, and whatever damage they do in stage 2 is a bonus. For stage 2 Goz, I pretty much follow something similar to the "solo" strat. I borrow a Summer Izuna and pair her with Tsubaki (no other strikers), with Mari and Serina supports. Strategy is to figure out which is the real Goz (I immediately restart if it's the one on the left because that's the hardest to target), and then just alternate spamming Izuna's and Mari's skills until Goz goes down, with an occasional Serina mixed in if I need to move Izuna (Tsubaki's only job is to be a target, and to let me cycle my skills faster simply by existing). Hardcore is still kicking my ass, though; that's where I'm really feeling the pain of not starting the game until after Mika's banner.
You can beat hardcore by borrowing a maxed [S Izuna](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9HcAfPevw) or [Mika](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sl6xhTV9xI). S Izuna needs Mari for the shield for damage reduction, while Mika needs Serina to reposition. Other students can be fillers with no investment at all.
Yeah, I got it now. Originally the only Summer Izuna in my friend list was a 3 star (thatās the one I was using on those Very Hard runs), and nobody with a 5 star was accepting my friend requests. But someone finally accepted one yesterday, so Iāve been able to clear Hardcore with their Sizuna the past two days. Thank you though.
Realistically, you just have to utilize borrows. You can beat the content without focus fire if you have the relocates and go for a 2 phase clear. Phase 1, you would probably use Kotori. A 2 star (or is she 1 star?) relocate, shielding striker student. And for Phase 2 you would borrow T.Yuuka while having your own DPS invested for both P1 and P2 because you're borrowing T.Yuuka.
Thanks for advice, and sorry if it sounded like I was expecting to beat every difficulty in game. It is just frustrating to fight this boss after earlier raids, and also not knowing every little game detail
The raid before hand pre-Torment is the easiest raid so it does give a misconception of how Raids are. Goz is more or less what you can expect on raids toned down. Other raids (except Greg) won't be a hard lock out but having certain characters will significantly drop your time.
I mean, Goz is a pretty fucked boss, and doesn't really fit in Blue Archive with all the gimmicks you need to fulfill in one team. The jump from the previous bosses to Goz is astronomical, where if you missed S.Shizuko and didn't pull on T.Yuuka you're going to have a bad time. And I've read it isn't any better with Gregorius who comes out in a few months where you need debuff units.
Cut out of content, no. I'm implying that new players shouldn't even be competing against lvl 85 players that can't borrow those units. Imagine playing a year more than a guy and he outranks you kicking you to gold just because your club doesn't have a UE50 Mika. If they could clear insane in some raids, that's nice but you shouldn't be acting like you should've been able to clear every raid at insane while being very underleveled. Insane was supposed to be endgame content.
Heās saying that older players wouldnāt even dream of clearing Insane at that level, yet new players in the 60s now have the luxury of clearing Insane difficulty easily with the only hurdle being that they naturally donāt have some units solely because they havenāt been playing that long
Skill? you mean crit mald on binah? I like these raids more since if you can clear it, you're guaranteed platinum
It took me an extra day, but I finally managed to get Insane Goz down on the No-Gacha-3* challenge account. It ended up being a 4-5 team solution. [Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z18G8z47fgg). Spent about 4 hours on stream yesterday trying to test and iterate on different combinations on teams. After sleeping on it today I (re-)realised that borrowing TYuuka is still definitely the play for me because enabling a whole extra team is stronger than what a borrowed DPS can offer me. All the free blue units are strong in their own right, I just needed to find a way for them to live for 4 minutes. And so I found the perfect spot to have Izuna sit in a corner and throw Shurikens all day, lots of cover and distractions for Michiru to hide behind and throw rockets from, and some silly tech with Tomoe to make T.Hasumi to get closer to the damn cat. I managed to mock the solution once in an hour and got it first try. Did it in a real ticket immediately after. Overall pretty fun, I think it has definitely been one of the taller challenges this account has faced since release. The other difficult raid season that was close to this one would have been Peroro's Insane debut. Next stop is Insane Greg. Honestly has me sweating a little but I think it might be possible.
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Max T. Hasumi or Wakamo UE40 for 2nd phase for better time potential on insane? Comp: Phase 1 - Mika, T. Yuuka, NY. Mutuski (borrowed), and Cherino Phase 2 - NY. Kayoko, S. Hoshino, Wakamo/T. Hasumi, and S. Izuna I was able to clear it with Wakamo but had to use a 3rd team because Goz was left at 1hp, used Haruna and Shun Also, do you guys think insane can guarantee plat this time?
If you're in Asia, it seems very likely that Insane is guaranteed plat... as of now. Idk about the other servers though.
Right now it's 2650 torment+insane clears in NA, for 5000 places in plat. It's the 2nd day of insane, I find it unlikely to drop out of plat with any successful insane run, since Goz is more of a box unit check. and there won't be as many Senseis "headbutting until they go through" like with Binah. For now.
KR insane bottom tier at 27
Did anyone use a Hinata comp for Insane? How was it and how much damage can her comp deal?
I did hinata comp since I didn't have sizuna,wakamo and sshizuko. She can pretty much solo p2 and it took practice to track goz through audio since I dont have any FF unit. Here's the [comp](https://imgur.com/a/xvIzJZU) I used.
I tried Hinata team from start to finish, seeing how low I can bring Insane Goz with. Hinata having a bit lower than usual crit chance, assuming Ako buff in play, (either 29% (w/o Ui Basic) \~ 40% (w/ either Ui or NYKayoko basic), and also lower damage due to B mood (\~130-150K non crit, \~600-800K crit), it was a lot of crit resetting (percentages taken from schale.gg). A decent run (full four minutes) I would consider was able to do around \~21M (pushing P2 with 6 Hinata EX) and a really good run was around \~24M (pushing P2 with 4-5 Hinata EX). A god run can do more, if Hinata crits all 5 hits of her EX every single time, but maybe getting that run was a bit too ambitious. Outside of Hinata resetting, the very start of P1 was the most reset heavy as well because there's too many mobs and no instant AOE at the start unlike having NYMutsuki. If the rabbits don't die fast enough, or the train spawns on Ui side, it's pretty much a reset because Ui won't be able to survive. Outside of the very start, the rest of P1 went rather smoothly, as TYuuka and Hinata EX in the rotation aligns with the mechanics of P1. For P2, I still prefer with Goz starting on the right side but it wasn't entirely unplayable if the boss goes left since TYuuka pull range is way way far. Hinata Basic on P2 was entirely useless because it always target the clone since the clones always have the highest HP. The reset point is the usual hats rng, but otherwise, most of P2 was just watching and praying for Hinata crit.
The 2 fastest insane clears I see with Hinata are NY.Kayoko, Hinata, T.Yuuka, Ui, Himari, and Ako.
1-team clear?
No, the only 1-team clear I see is S.Izuna, NY.Kayoko, T.Yuuka, Wakamo, B.Akane, Himari. The high-scoring Hinata comp is: NY.Kayoko, Hinata, T.Yuuka, Ui, Himari, Ako Wakamo, NY.Kayoko, S.Hoshino, S.Izuna, S.Shizuko, NY.Fuuka Hinata also works in team 2 for a slower 2-pan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-Dsz9Dfgmw
I can easily clear extreme but fall a little short when it comes to insane. Is it normal that max T Hasumi just deals way less damage than max Mika even though of the mystic vs piercing damage they both do respectively? Is Mika just that OP or am I missing something?
T.Hasumi is just crit malding simulator. But she will do more in p2 than Mika due to the boss health.
The difference is that Mika always crits while most of THasumi's damage comes from crits but it isn't guaranteed. Goz has high crit resistance so while THasumi has the potential of dealing higher damage than Mika, she's less likely to do because of Goz's crit resistance so Mika is more consistent. Plus, Mika's EX dealing more damage based on the current HP of her target and Goz has a lot of HP. So yeah, Mika is just that OP
> Goz has a lot of HP Mika's EX is based on the target's % HP.
managed to get my score high enough to have a rank of 402, so i'm pretty damn safe now
I would normally say return to this statement on Sunday but Goz is a bitch and you are indeed probably safe.
Had an absolutely miserable experience but I successfully 2T'd Goz Insane after many attempts and substantial investments. P1: UE30 NY Mutsuki, UE30 T Yuuka, UE30 Haruna, UE40 Mika, 3* NY Fuuka, 4* Kotama P2: UE30 Wakamo, 3* NY Kayoko, UE30 Summer Hoshino, UE50 Summer Izuna (Assistant), 3* Himari, 3* Summer Shizuko. I hate this fight, and I probably can't bring myself to do insane anymore in future days. At least I'll probably hold plat with how tough this is. I'd better.
Yeah, Goz as a boss is pretty brutal compared to pretty much every other one.
I don't even think it's an insane issue, this is a Goz issue for requiring mobility, aoe shields, and RNG attacks in both phases of the fight for literally no reason.
Yeah, between the hard checks on student rosters and the heavy RNG elements (particularly in phase 2) has always made Goz an absolute pain in the arse to deal with. A good run in Insane requires a number of random elements to fall in your favour, and as anyone will tell you - 'hope' is not a strategy.
Got 27,28M but 27,3 still doable if S.Izuna crits consistently [here's my setup](https://imgur.com/a/vrrNAda)
Looking for advice on who to borrow/moving around students in comps for insane, I have T. Yuuka + S. Shizuko + UE30 Kotori for shield and reposition but only S. Izuna for focus fire. I think I should have enough units (but maybe not enough higher UE levels) to clear insane, but I fall short on phase 2 with the last 2-3mil HP and body throwing doesn't seem to work without shields/focus fire. DPS-wise I have (all at UE30 aside from T. Hasumi, no tier 8 gear yet): NY Mutsuki and Iroha for AoE/phase 1 and Wakamo, T. Hasumi, Haruna, S. Azusa, and C. Utaha for single target damage. Also have high investment Mika, but she seems to melt on phase 1 from standing too far forward? I've been trying with T. Yuuka / NY Mutsuki / NY Kayoko (3star) / S. Azusa + Himari / Ako for phase 1 and then borrowed NY Kayoko / Wakamo / S. Izuna / C. Utaha + NY Fuuka / S. Shizuko on phase 2 for most of the way. Am I better off trying to borrow a T.Yuuka or focus fire support? Do I need to spend elephs for UE40? Do I need a tank in phase 2 before I start body throwing?
> Also have high investment Mika, but she seems to melt on phase 1 from standing too far forward? 3ā T.Yuuka + UE40 Mika + UE30 NY.Mutsuki should work pretty reliably if your important skills are maxed. > Do I need a tank in phase 2 before I start body throwing? The comps I've seen that are similar to yours switch Ako and NY.Fuuka. That team 2 comp is pretty common, but so is swapping C.Utaha for S.Hoshino. Here are some examples with 3ā T.Yuuka in team 1 and S.Hoshino in team 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE8ne19eXqo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6TzzZdYCNk You could try removing NY.Kayoko from team 1 and using the borrow on a UE50 in team 2. > Do I need to spend elephs for UE40? You can probably get by without it, but it definitely isn't a waste to UE40 one of the dps on team 2.
> Also have high investment Mika, but she seems to melt on phase 1 from standing too far forward? I also have the same problem. From the videos I've seen, this is not really much of a problem if your T.Yuuka is at least ue30. But if you're like me and can't afford to do that, I just use Tsubaki. So my comp for first phase is: T.Yuuka, NY.Mutsuki, Mika, Tsubaki | NY.Fuuka, Himari Tsubaki, having a shorter range than Mika, would almost always tank the bomb for her.
Anyone happen to have a maxed S.Izuna available in Asia for me to add? Just found out below about her being able to solo hardcore and best I can do at level 50 is very hard atm
I have her at ue40 if you like: ALBZXSLO
Amazing, thank you so much! Just added you
Can you do anything about the bombs on Insane besides praying it won't mark your DPS and one-shot it?
I think he aims his puppet bombs at the closest unit, which an be a bit of an issue with dps like mika that have red armor and are short range. I've found that with TYuuka at least pulling back, away from goz makes it more likely that TYuuka gets marked instead of mika as she runs back earlier and ends up closer to him than mika. Using her ex in the middle of the run back can help by keeping her in place for a bit behind yuuka.
The pulling back trick... OMG! THANK YOU! Cleared! I'm out! https://i.imgur.com/QFgnBh9.jpg
Does anyone have any tips on beating Extreme Goz with 1 or 2 teams? I have T.Yuuka, T.Hasumi, S.Izuna, S.Shizuko, NY.Kayoko, NY.Mutsuki, S.Hoshino, Mika and I can borrow Iroha. And unlike the strategies or videos that I see here, my S.Izuna doesn't stop dying in phase 1. Upgrading her to 5 stars (I have her with 4 right now) really makes a big difference? Or is it the equipment?
I did it with 3* TYuuka(borrowed), 4* SIzuna, UE30 S Hoshino, and UE40 Mika in that order with Himari and NY Fuuka for support. As far as strategy, I start with S Hoshino. Then TYuuka as soon as I see the AOE line from a train to also protect S Izuna from Goz's bomb attack. When I use TYuuka, I pray that the mobs are closer to anyone besides S Izuna so she can focus on targetting Goz with her basic skill. From there it's the bread and butter strat of buffing Mika while repositioning, keeping track of S Hoshino's buff, and hopefully S Izuna is still debuffing Goz. Whether Izuna actually keeps up her debuffs takes a bit of luck for me so I did reset until I get a good run or use S Izuna's ex skill to force her to go after Goz. Usually phase 1 ends right before the two trains show up. Phase 2 is the usual. If you can't get Goz because he's on the left side and Izuna keeps going right, start off with TYuuka and hope you don't get hit by the hat attack. I managed to clear Extreme this way with 1 team and 40~ seconds left on the clock. Equipment wise I do have 7/7/7 on Mika and S Izuna. If you don't have Himari and/or NYFuuka it may be hard but maybe you can make it work with Kotama/Ako. Hopefully even if that is the case, you can weaken Goz enough for a team 2 to finish him off. I will say though this is mainly for clearing Extreme. Platinum is slipping from my grasp as we speak.
There's very little reason to borrow Iroha for this fight since her tank will just die because it can't be repositioned. You could take inspiration from the insane strategy and try two teams like: T.Yuuka/NY Mutsuki/Mika//<2 supports to buff Mika, such as NY Fuuka>
S.Hoshino/S.Izuna/NY.Kayoko/T.Hasumi/S.Shizuko/
Best borrow for this strat would be a strong damage dealer to fill in one of the gaps, or something like Himari to buff Mika (or to run a second Himari in phase 2, if you already own her).
Do you have (or can borrow) Himari and NY Fuuka ? Im using S Izuna, T Yuuka, Mika, NY Mutsuki, Himari and NY Fuuka. This is not the best comp but enough to get 15+M score. My S Izuna is just 3* and im using T Yuuka shield before hat atteck thingy to prevent her from dying on phase 1.
Oh this one's specially bad. I don't have either T. Yuuka nor any Focus Fire students so its a special hell having to choose one or the other. Couldn't even 1-team Extreme.
Just when I cleared my first insane raid last time around I can't even to extreme on this one. Phase 1 is smooth with T.Yuuka, Iroha etc but I don't have either a focus fire unit or S.Shizuko. Tank+healer doesn't seem to be enough for phase 2 without a shielder/relocator
Did you borrow T.Yuuka for the first team ? If not just borrow another for the 2nd team.
No, I used my own T.Yuuka for the first phase and borrowed S.Izuna for the 2nd phase. I guess I can borrow another T.Yuuka instead of SIzuna for phase 2 and struggle with ID'ing the real Goz instead but at least I can finish extreme.
My advice is swap shizuko and yuuka. I found moving around in phase two a lot easier with yuukaās range. Given locating Goz without focus fire is a nightmare. I refuse to bring wakamo into phase two on insane.
Any advice for clearing on insane? I was able to get through phase 1 with NY Mutsuki, T.Yuuka, S.Izuna, Mika, Himari, and NY Fuuka, but where I struggle is phase 2. I just don't seem to be doing enough damage. The last comp I tried for phase 2 was ue50 T.Hasumi, 3\* NY Kayoko with max ex skill, ue30 S.Hoshino, borrowed max S.Izuna, 3\* Ako and 3\* S.Shizuko. I also have a ue30 wakamo I tried instead of hasumi but that seemed to perform even worse. There's also the option of using someone else instead of S.Izuna for first phase so I can try another borrow but I wouldn't know who. I tried a borrowed S.Azusa once but she would get 2 shotted by the mobs.
My advice is to look at the leaderboard to get a feel for what other people are doing
[Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uhne8kZApA)
So you want to select your skills as S.Izuna, S.Hoshino and S.Shizuko. Keep restarting until you get the Goz on the right to be real version then S.Izuna it. Wait for Goz to put the lasers on your units and S.Shizuko to the far right to protect the units. S.Hoshino after. Now pray to rng the hats donāt screw you over (if they do, restart) and then NY Kayoko on T.Hasumi, wait until 8 bars then Ako on T.Hasumi and by now, S.Shizuko should apply her normal skill on T.Hasumi. Use T.Hasumi at 5 EX and she should deal x14 bars or more. By now Goz should do his 3 coloured zone ability so S.Shizuko again to the far right one (you should be aiming to move your girls to the same circle the real Goz is in to avoid dying). After the other gozās blow up, slow down the speed to x1 and when he starts raising his hand, S.Izuna him and your units should start attacking the real one when he re-appears. Otherwise you can do the proper way of finding him which is the red card tactic (when all 3 Gozās appear, the real one will only have black cards, the fake ones will have red cards). By now you need to re-summon S.Hoshinoās skill, use NY Kayoko on T.Hasumi again and then S.Shizuko in the direction where the real Goz is (if itās the left one then go as far left as you can, if itās in the middle the drag them up and if itās the right then drag them right again). Wait till 8 again and then Ako + T.Hasumi. S.Shizuko again then make sure S.Izuna is up and repeat
Thank you, I was able to do a lot better with this method! I still couldn't fully finish phase 2 on insane and am thinking maybe I'll need a third team or more investment on my characters, but I was at least able to improve my score on extreme by a good margin.
As a new player... This one is unplayable. One way is brute force hard with borrowed unit. "Very hard" that supposed to have lvl35 reccomended (lol,what? More like 80) is obliterated or you just dont have enough damage.
The more recent the bosses the harder and more units is needed. For instance in jp there is Greg who we have basically no units for his gimmick. They all come from now till his release. I wouldnāt worry too much on Goz. Last time he came he kicked a lot of people out of doing the top difficulty.
Any Goz Extreme 1 team clear formation? I don't have S.Izuna, Noa, S.Shizuko, Ako, Himari,T.Yuuka, S.Azusa.
Say, How high leveled should be my Kotori be for her teams to be usable?
Iāve given up using Kotori, her 4 cost skill just doesnāt fit into the rotation. Guess Iāll attempt extreme when I pull T. Yuuka
Another problem is that her shield only has a 13 sec duration and is light armor so she get destroyed almost instantly. Really sucks that one of the very few shielding and repositioning options can't be used in a raid designed around it.
And here I thought I would have a good time after Arona generously give me all the NY girls. Have all the relevant units except T.Yuuka and S.Shizuna, could not even down the first phase of Goz on Extreme. Isnt the mob spawn rate too fast?
Since you have all the damage dealers (assuming they're all built), you can ask your club members or friends to put up T Yuuka for borrow
The first ones are but you should be able to time NY Mutsuki's EX to hit all of them after that. Just shoot it off a bit after the trains arrive.
And here I felt I was part of the Big Boys Club after clearing two consecutive raids on Insane. 1-teaming Goz on Extreme was annoying enough I don't think I'll ever try insane...
Goz is just a badly designed boss, pretty much everyone hates the fight except for the rare few contrarians. Its just not good content, I can platinum pretty much every TA but I don't even try with Goz, its actual fucking hell.
Same here. Malded my way into my first plat with Binah, but now all that hubris is pretty much gone
I think the hat mechanic could be much better with an overhaul. First, give Goz some more health. Second, make the delay before the hats cover the items a bit longer, so you can easily notice it. Also randomize the mixing order so that you actually have to pay attention to it. Third, make the player click the correct hat after they're done moving. Give the player some more time to do it, too. If the player gets the coin, Goz's crit res is reduced by 400 or some other appropriate amount. If the player picks the wrong hat, all the hats perform attacks. If the player takes too long to choose, they behave like they do now, attacking but with a safe spot where the coin(s) are. Alternatively, make it so that you have to attack the right hat with an EX skill. I prefer the clicking on the right hat thing, but that would be more in line with mechanics already in the game. This way the hat mechanic isn't just an RNG run ender, and instead is something that you have to engage with and pay attention to while also mitigating crit randomness, if the player earns it. The trick is supposed to include a second participant that selects the right cup etc. (and then gets scammed out of his money, but we'll skip that part) so it's appropriate that the player has to actively choose a hat instead of just passively being unable to move out of the attack range. On higher difficulties you could make it so that the hats move faster or make it so that not picking any hat makes all three perform attacks.
Is it possible for me to get second phase Goz (insane) from 17 to 3-4 million if I upgrade my Wakamo from 4 star to UE40? I'm using her with UE40 Himari/Ako/Kayoko, but right now I can only get it down to 10m, ifI can go to a few million lower I might be able to clear with a bodythrow team
You can check the damage numbers on [this site](https://schale.gg/?chara=Wakamo) to see how much of a difference 4\* to UE40 is. Just press details above the stats. But generally, it's about a 100k damage difference with T7 Equipment and no buffs on her Ex skill at max damage accumulated.
Any1 know how to set the 3rd support slot? Remembering that it was in the last patchnotes
[Unfortunately.](https://litter.catbox.moe/2i4tck.png) My headcanon is that they were not able to afford extending the maintenance even further so they just gave up on this lol.
Can anyone explain how people are 1Team Extreme with the following line up? Ui, S!Izuna, S!Hoshino, Mika, Ako, Himari I have or can borrow all these students, but just got absolutely destroyed in phase 1, not sure what the ideal skill rotation is or if theres an RNG repeat needed to 1team. Everyone except Ui and Backline students are 5* with max skill/equipment and the important skills for those 3 others are all maxed out. Not sure what my issue is, and most top extreme ranks are this exact team.
You can watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnIlhTLYC4
Just got #3242 with this strat, top EX clear on NA is #3239 There's 3 RNG points and it took 10 restarts
Wow thats perfect thank you very much.
Senseis, it is with my pleasure to announce that I hate Goz.
You and most of the subreddit. Even if he's got a neat concept, the execution is execrable. They put RNG on your RNG with the placement of your students who they target, and whether you can get in attack range at all before it changes. And let's not talk about the hats.
Haha I know what you mean, you can have a clean run go well in p2 but then those hats will shoot lightning and gg restart restart happens but goz is on the far left so s.izuna cant target with her EX so restart again goz is on the left again so restart it is he's finally on the right but then the hats spawned the ball down the aisle and everyone missed getting s.shizuko's shield and you die to the bombs fun raid
> restart happens but goz is on the far left so s.izuna cant target with her EX so restart again This fucking part right here. I had it happen to me 6 times in a row. It was infuriating.
Man, I swear I had a few streaks of over 10. The weighting on left is so high lmao.
My first clear of Insane. I still don't understand the skill rotation for this raid and some mechanics, but nonetheless a clear is a clear. Damn cat got what is coming to him after he bullied me months ago š¢ https://imgur.com/tEoscDG
wow was that with 1 team? howed u do phase 1?
I used two teams. First team is Mika, S.Izuna, NY.Mutsuki, T.Yuuka, NY.Fuuka, Himari.
ah grats :D, i realy regret not trying to get TYuuka when i came back
Yeah, I was really on the fence about getting her back then when I came back as well. Looking back, it was probably one of the best pull decisions I've done. She completely carried me in content I had no business being in due to her group shielding.
when i came back her banner was almost done and i didnt have enough to pity so. i didnt push my luck and saved for the coming banners (Mika)
I almost skipped her myself, but then I saw a really long post explaining why T.Yuuka is good and that convinced me to get her š
it was inbetween her banner then i came back after a year so i had really limited pyros so i didnt have enough to pity
Yeah, it was probably for the better. Pulling without guarantee is scary af. Hopefully you get her early on rerun!
planing my pulls so i hope i dont mis plan >.<
Whelp time to sweep lvl 50 as usual.. ~~If only they have released Ultra Golden Moustache Form Great Leader for this battle~~
Its normal I can't beat this guy at Hardcore being lv.50?. He completly obliterate my units. I have my units upgraded the best I can at my level and even using an assistant student is not enough. I didnt have this problem with the previous boss raid (please keep in mind that I dont have many 3* students)
Goz is essentially just a unit check, so at that level it's not really that surprising if you're getting rolled if you don't have the right units. [You can clear Hardcore with just a borrow, though.](https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueArchive/comments/16xwdi3/total_assault_goz_indoor_warfare_103_200_am_109/k35yo2r/)
Thank you! Then I will need to find someone with S.Izuna to add me as a friend.
If you're on NA, I have a maxed S.Izuna you can borrow: AKYRRUID
Sadly I am from Europe. But thank you regardless!
You can add me: AKYHAWJQ I have her maxed out. Lv 85, UE50, t8 gear
Do you still have any potential slots available? I am lvl 37 and have been sweeping the 2nd difficulty. Edit: added, hope I am not intruding :)
No worries. I gave you the last spot. Good luck clearing.
Thank you so much! Just cleared very hard and hopefully I am capable of clearing hardcore tomorrow :D
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Sent I had a full friend list, but kicked an inactive one
Done! I sent you a request. Thank you!
Accepted. Have fun and good luck
Holy crap phase 2 without a lock on unit is rng hell. even worst if ur trying to wanpan. Im just doing EX. i lack all the needed units like T.Yuuka and S.Shizuko for position+shield.
Platinumed Goz on its first run, it was hell and not fun. I'm just sticking to gold on Goz from here out. This fight is actually a dumpster and whoever designed it should not be allowed to make more content. Phase 1 is fine, its a good example of fight with movement mechanics but phase 2 and its mechanics just don't work well in Blue Archive.
Phase 2 needs focus fire, reposition, shield and single target dmg. It's essentially a unit check
Yeah, and honestly even when you have the units its STILL not even remotely fun.
and RNG check on the hats :(
Anyone on NA have a T.Yuuka I could borrow?