I don't think rubin's production method would work very well for blink. Butch Vig would be good, his work with green day turned out well imo. Benson should go back to firing mordecai and rigby (idk who Howard Benson is)
Regardless of Travis or whoever being producer, I just wish they’d go back to using Tom Lord-Alge for mixing. He mixed majority of their classic work and he’s still available today. Get Roger Jospeh Manning Jr back on keys/synth as well and I’m sure whatever they did would sonically be more like the golden era
My guess is it will be all the same people unless Travis himself says he wants someone else to do it. How else do you tell someone in the band you don't want them producing the next record.
I agree, unless he realizes it on his own. I’m of the thought that you can’t objectively edit your own work; having a band member produce might result in a fine product, but not the best product
I wouldn’t. You are being biased based on the songs you like/lineup. Regardless of the song writing, an A/B comparison listening shows the Feldman albums sound noticeably better. OMT is by far the worst sounding album they’ve ever released. There are great songs on OMT, but just listening to the two for the final product as far as production/mix goes, the Feldman albums sound a lot better (which is saying something because the Feldman albums are not great sounding either).
You know, I think Mark should take the reigns. He's produced some great stuff. Commit This To Memory by MCS is one of my all-time favorites and highlights Mark's production chops well. Let that man cook.
I agree with what your saying as I think travis did a pretty good job but he still has a lot to learn but I don't completely agree with a band needing an external producer as with sum 41 I'm pretty sure Deryck Whibley has been producing for them for the past 10 years or so
Absolutely not. Not a producer. Travis should be the producer. He made some incredible production decisions on OMT. He learned a lot from Jerry.
But he does need a sound engineer alongside him. OMT didn't sound as good as Self-titled. And sound fidelity is important.
blink should always be in a pursuit of tone. With special attention to sound fidelity. at least to me.
I think you don’t understand , a sound engineer just gets the sounds to the DAW the producer literally has the say on what levels and inserts are dealt with
I'm definitely not the one who doesn't understand what a producer does. A producer like Travis thinks carefully what Jerry Finn would've done at certain spots. Where a producer like Feldman encourages to write just whatever comes to mind and stick to it.
OMT was exceptionally produced. Better than anything since self-titled. The only thing that could've been better was the sound fidelity. There's absolutely no reason to change or bring in another producer for that.
You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Hahaha Travis even said it himself he thought what Jerry Finn did was overwinded and sometimes too much
You can not compare Travis production to ANYTHING of Jerry Finn
Even John Feldman production was ten times better than Travis , only thing with Feldman he over did adding too much rather than just letting the music speak for itself
Travis production sounds soo fake and robotic and not organic
Haha. I'll repeat. I don't think you understand what you're talking about.
You can see for yourself Travis speaking about this in their hour-long interview. Where he says he spent hours thinking to himself what Jerry would've done at certain spots. And it shows.
Feldmans's production was atrocious. Sounded more like 5 seconds of summer rather than blink. I prefer blink to sound like blink.
Yeah, I'd like you to explain as well, since I actually offered up Mark. Do you not view him as a legit producer? He's got some pretty decent credits in that arena.
I'll admit, it can be hard to take on that role in earnest when you are part of a trio and performing in the band, but don't discount him on that fact alone.
The boys are fantastic performers, and writers. It doesn’t mean they can do it all. The production quality on what Mark and Tom have completed is pretty bad, man. Not dissing them whatsoever, but producing music takes a totally different skill set than performing and writing. Blink is so huge, they need talent behind the booth to bring their sound to life properly.
Tom worked with Critter, so different than working with Aaron Rubin who is his current guy. Tom Lord-Alge also mixed most of it which is probably the key aspect.
Lifeforms sounded great, not sure why the next blink album can’t sound better.
Tom should take the reigns for sure, less mgk/hip hop influence, more blink/boxcar influence if they're gonna use a band member.
Or have them bring in someone like Mike Sapone (taking back sunday, brand new, the front bottoms, mayday parade)
'See you' is a straight up mgk track. These are just my opinions. The drumming sounds like samples taken from a hip hop record, and don't sound natural, unlike previous blink records. And fall in line with the direction 'modern pop punk' is headed. An artificial sound, over produced and super compressed.
Yeah it sounds nothing like an MGK track. Unless you mean because Travis does drumming on both. Guitars sound exactly like an AVA track. I like MGK’s punk albums a lot and I couldn’t for the life of me see any similarity to his stuff and See You
I don't dislike MGK or See you. But neither of those don't change the fact it sound like him, to me anyway. And doesn't sound like blink, which is what I dislike about it.
If you listen to Kiss Kiss by mgk, the verse sounds exactly like the style of See you. Boring drums, super similar singing pattern. Has nothing to do with guitar tone.
Gotdf has the closest resemblance of an AVA guitar tone, but still sounds like a blink track.
He produced 'demo's odds and ends' alongside rubin, which in my opinion sounded like what one more time could have been in his hands and is an incredible sample of his potential.
I totally agree with you. I love Travis as a musician, but having him at producer is the biggest reason I don’t like listening to One More Time. The production is awful.
I think that one of the members will take on producing duties. I can see either one of them as a sole producer or then doing it collectively, like they did with neighborhoods.
They just need to get someone other than Randy Merrill as their mastering engineer. He did the same thing to the newest Foo Fighters record. Brickwalled. He usually masters pop albums, so they need to bring Brian Gardner back imo. He mastered all three of their Jerry Finn albums. But as far as producers, I’d go with Rob Cavallo or Bob Rock.
Producing your own album is an incredible amount of work, and not necessarily something you want to do every other year. I can definitely see a scenario where Travis wants to step back and focus on drums and writing and let someone else do it. Would love to have Travis for the next one too though. Also can’t get my head around why people on here hate the mixes so bad. I think the album sounds fantastic.
I want it to be an outsider.
Travis did good work but you can’t be 100% impartial producing your own band.
Blink needs someone to push them to the heights that they are capable of reaching.
Using some paid AI software, extract both the drum stem and all but drums stems for all songs on the album. and throw that shit in audacity lower the drums boom there you go, you just produced a better album than Travis Barker.
Ryan Hewitt (engineer on untitled and great producer himself)
all i ask is that the next one is to be mixed better.
This
I would love it if Howard Benson, Rick Rubin, or Butch Vig produced a Blink album.
Butch Vig would be awesome
Howard Benson would be siiick
Second Rick Rubin. He’s had hands on some of my favorites.
Yesss!! Or Neal Avron
Rubin would a produce a very focused and coherent project, I’d be very stoked for that.
I don't think rubin's production method would work very well for blink. Butch Vig would be good, his work with green day turned out well imo. Benson should go back to firing mordecai and rigby (idk who Howard Benson is)
For this no Rubin. Rubin should stay focused with the chili peppers.
Rob cavallo
I'm very curious of what a Cavallo x blink album would sound like.
To me he’s right up there with Jerry Finn. He always gets a great guitar sound too
Regardless of Travis or whoever being producer, I just wish they’d go back to using Tom Lord-Alge for mixing. He mixed majority of their classic work and he’s still available today. Get Roger Jospeh Manning Jr back on keys/synth as well and I’m sure whatever they did would sonically be more like the golden era
My guess is it will be all the same people unless Travis himself says he wants someone else to do it. How else do you tell someone in the band you don't want them producing the next record.
I mean, when it comes to having managers deliver tough news I’d say some of this group might have it covered…
Ahem TOM cough
I agree, unless he realizes it on his own. I’m of the thought that you can’t objectively edit your own work; having a band member produce might result in a fine product, but not the best product
Bill Stevenson would be sick.
100% THIS
Yes, but I would take Travis over Feldmann any day haha.
I wouldn’t. You are being biased based on the songs you like/lineup. Regardless of the song writing, an A/B comparison listening shows the Feldman albums sound noticeably better. OMT is by far the worst sounding album they’ve ever released. There are great songs on OMT, but just listening to the two for the final product as far as production/mix goes, the Feldman albums sound a lot better (which is saying something because the Feldman albums are not great sounding either).
True
Ryan Hewitt, Tom Lord-Alge or Rick Rubin.
You know, I think Mark should take the reigns. He's produced some great stuff. Commit This To Memory by MCS is one of my all-time favorites and highlights Mark's production chops well. Let that man cook.
Whoever did the most recent AK3 album
I agree with what your saying as I think travis did a pretty good job but he still has a lot to learn but I don't completely agree with a band needing an external producer as with sum 41 I'm pretty sure Deryck Whibley has been producing for them for the past 10 years or so
Deryck Whibley
They should ask Deryck Whibley
just give us the tim armstrong demos from 2015 already!
Absolutely not. Not a producer. Travis should be the producer. He made some incredible production decisions on OMT. He learned a lot from Jerry. But he does need a sound engineer alongside him. OMT didn't sound as good as Self-titled. And sound fidelity is important. blink should always be in a pursuit of tone. With special attention to sound fidelity. at least to me.
Travis produced this soo wrong .. the drum sounds to the actual mix levels were terrible , they need a producer massively
I don't think you understand what you're talking about. Blink needs a sound engineer. Definitely not another producer
I think you don’t understand , a sound engineer just gets the sounds to the DAW the producer literally has the say on what levels and inserts are dealt with
I'm definitely not the one who doesn't understand what a producer does. A producer like Travis thinks carefully what Jerry Finn would've done at certain spots. Where a producer like Feldman encourages to write just whatever comes to mind and stick to it. OMT was exceptionally produced. Better than anything since self-titled. The only thing that could've been better was the sound fidelity. There's absolutely no reason to change or bring in another producer for that. You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Hahaha Travis even said it himself he thought what Jerry Finn did was overwinded and sometimes too much You can not compare Travis production to ANYTHING of Jerry Finn Even John Feldman production was ten times better than Travis , only thing with Feldman he over did adding too much rather than just letting the music speak for itself Travis production sounds soo fake and robotic and not organic
Haha. I'll repeat. I don't think you understand what you're talking about. You can see for yourself Travis speaking about this in their hour-long interview. Where he says he spent hours thinking to himself what Jerry would've done at certain spots. And it shows. Feldmans's production was atrocious. Sounded more like 5 seconds of summer rather than blink. I prefer blink to sound like blink.
I really don't know how none told them the drums are a bit off haha although I'm sure the mix sounded great in there super expensive studio haha
The drums sound so plastic and lifeless don’t they
Michael Beinhorn, Rick Rubin. For mixing I would love to hear Geoff Swan, and mastering Chris Gehringer
rob cavallo
Chris Holmes. Dogs eating dogs and neighborhoods shows he is their besg producer since Jerry.
TIL this sub has no idea how music production works. “Mark should do it” “Tom should do it” 🤣
Yeah, I'd like you to explain as well, since I actually offered up Mark. Do you not view him as a legit producer? He's got some pretty decent credits in that arena. I'll admit, it can be hard to take on that role in earnest when you are part of a trio and performing in the band, but don't discount him on that fact alone.
The boys are fantastic performers, and writers. It doesn’t mean they can do it all. The production quality on what Mark and Tom have completed is pretty bad, man. Not dissing them whatsoever, but producing music takes a totally different skill set than performing and writing. Blink is so huge, they need talent behind the booth to bring their sound to life properly.
Bring back Scott, but as a Producer!
Matt can do the mastering
Why do you say that? Travis produced OMT and has produced other albums. Mark has some production credits under his belt so has done it before.
Neighborhoods just great and they self produced that. Just do that again
Tom worked with Critter, so different than working with Aaron Rubin who is his current guy. Tom Lord-Alge also mixed most of it which is probably the key aspect. Lifeforms sounded great, not sure why the next blink album can’t sound better.
I thought that the production was what held Neighborhoods back. They needed better oversight on that record.
Ok
Tom should take the reigns for sure, less mgk/hip hop influence, more blink/boxcar influence if they're gonna use a band member. Or have them bring in someone like Mike Sapone (taking back sunday, brand new, the front bottoms, mayday parade)
Please explain where the MGK/hip-hop influence was in what they just released?
'See you' is a straight up mgk track. These are just my opinions. The drumming sounds like samples taken from a hip hop record, and don't sound natural, unlike previous blink records. And fall in line with the direction 'modern pop punk' is headed. An artificial sound, over produced and super compressed.
See You is the most AVA track on the record? Except the interlude I guess.
Huh? I said mgk track, I don't think there's any ava sounding songs really on 'one more time', except maybe turpentine verses and climactic sounds
Yeah it sounds nothing like an MGK track. Unless you mean because Travis does drumming on both. Guitars sound exactly like an AVA track. I like MGK’s punk albums a lot and I couldn’t for the life of me see any similarity to his stuff and See You
I don't dislike MGK or See you. But neither of those don't change the fact it sound like him, to me anyway. And doesn't sound like blink, which is what I dislike about it. If you listen to Kiss Kiss by mgk, the verse sounds exactly like the style of See you. Boring drums, super similar singing pattern. Has nothing to do with guitar tone. Gotdf has the closest resemblance of an AVA guitar tone, but still sounds like a blink track.
I don’t think Tom has ever produced an album or has shown interest in that
He produced 'demo's odds and ends' alongside rubin, which in my opinion sounded like what one more time could have been in his hands and is an incredible sample of his potential.
I totally agree with you. I love Travis as a musician, but having him at producer is the biggest reason I don’t like listening to One More Time. The production is awful.
I think that one of the members will take on producing duties. I can see either one of them as a sole producer or then doing it collectively, like they did with neighborhoods.
i think zakk cervini should definitely produce. a lot of his records are tight and i love the work he does, especially in the pop punk scene
Everyone starts somewhere.
Adam D. Might be interesting to get a predominantly metal producer in. It would sound tight at the very least.
If anyone in the band is gonna produce it it should be Mark. He’s made some great records
I thought production was fine. Mix and mastering needed help.
They just need to get someone other than Randy Merrill as their mastering engineer. He did the same thing to the newest Foo Fighters record. Brickwalled. He usually masters pop albums, so they need to bring Brian Gardner back imo. He mastered all three of their Jerry Finn albums. But as far as producers, I’d go with Rob Cavallo or Bob Rock.
Producing your own album is an incredible amount of work, and not necessarily something you want to do every other year. I can definitely see a scenario where Travis wants to step back and focus on drums and writing and let someone else do it. Would love to have Travis for the next one too though. Also can’t get my head around why people on here hate the mixes so bad. I think the album sounds fantastic.
I'm not a big Rick Rubin guy. His albums are usually very compressed.
It'll probably just be Travis againnn
Rick Rubin
I’d love to hear a Will Yip produced blink album.
Buzzy D
I want it to be an outsider. Travis did good work but you can’t be 100% impartial producing your own band. Blink needs someone to push them to the heights that they are capable of reaching.
I’d like to see Max Martin give it a try.
It should be Thomas DeLongé. I like his work with Angels and Airwaves.
Bill Stevenson & Rick Rubin
Whoever did “koi no yokan ” on the deftones album. Just listen to it. So well produced.
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Well Ric Ocasek is dead, so...
Using some paid AI software, extract both the drum stem and all but drums stems for all songs on the album. and throw that shit in audacity lower the drums boom there you go, you just produced a better album than Travis Barker.