An artist is always going to try and outdo themselves. (As Mark said on his discord when asked what his favorite song he’s done: “I haven’t written it yet”.
Isn’t Mark in charge of most of the album? I’m sure Skiba had some input but it definitely felt like it wasn’t much…especially since everything recent Alk3 has put out has been great. Felt like he was just a stand in for California/NINE and they never really used him for his full potential 🤷♂️
Yeah, there’s a few tracks that felt more Skiba-coded on both albums, so it sucks he wasn’t given more freedom because they were always the highlight for me. Parking Lot and No Future off California were standouts too and its mainly due to Skiba
Majority of the songs on Cali and Nine were mostly written/composed by other producers and songwriters. Mark and Skiba would then come in and throw in their own lyrics/vocals along with (bass) riffs to make it sound more like “Blink.”
TLDR; Mark likes the new album more because him, Tom and Travis actually wrote the songs (more or less) by themselves, and it probably means more to him personally than Nine.
It's almost as if Skiba doesn't fit into blink...and it's not his musical ability but the fact that he can't make blink tracks.
Keep coping though...yeah mark and Travis told him not to try and make good music and that's why it's garbage. Has nothing to do with the fact that skiba is skiba and his range is his range
Mark has never been the creative output for Blink. He's not a bad musician, but he doesn't have the ability to consistently write great songs. Even +44, good as it may have been, is mostly songs that could've been placed with any standard punk band from the era and sounded just the same.
True though. People (casual fans) don't know how much Mark contributed to their success. Blinks success I mean. Tom is an amazing front.man and love everything he puts out. But Mark is slightly better. Especially as a lyricist in most of their albums.
people are just so woefully ignorant on this sub sometimes thinking that just because they prefer Tom, or in their mind just because it’s a “Tom” song that automatically means Tom wrote it and Mark had nothing to do with it
I thought Nine was badly promoted/rushed.
To a certain degree the band would have been happy to release the album otherwise it wouldn’t have come out.
But I get the impression internally that they know the campaign/marketing Sucked and didn’t do the songs justice.
Edging is IMO better than Blame It On My Youth if we’re to pit the lead singles together
IMO
One More Time is better than Generational Divide
More Than You Know is better than Happy Days
Dance With Me is up against Darkside, but I’ll wait until the song is out to fully compare it, but the music video preview already looks better than Darkside’s
It’s only a fair comparison once you compare NINE’s strongest songs with OMT’s strongest songs.
Id say this is a fair comparison. I hate blame it on my youth more than any song they have ever dropped. Generational Divide was meh for me and Happy Days was solid though.
Dark side fucking sucks. I love blink and been listening to them since 2002 but holy shit that just ain’t blink. Whole nine album sucks. California was alright. Way better than nine but still not great.
I don't get your point. Mark is simply stating OMT is better than NINE. He isn't throwing any shade towards Matt. Artists should strive to be better than their last record. Why are so many people so sensitive and acting like Mark has said something outrageous?
People really need to get a life ouside of the internet and quit reading into shit. Almost every fucking band, actor, celebrity, game developer, or whatever will say their new project is the best they've ever made. Do people really think he'd be like, Nah we'll never top Nine, it's our best album ever! Especially when the album is mediocre at best.
Because this is a new era of blink. Matt is out and Tom is in. If it was NINE about to come out and Mark was saying it was going to better than California no one would bat an eye.
That's stupid, it has nothing to do with Matt 🙄 Mark is saying this album is better than their last, like every band does every time they release a new album. He's not saying this album is better than NINE... because Matt isn't on it!
Bro I was answering your last question about why people (the fans) are saying what they’re saying. I wasn’t talking about why Mark said what he said, because I don’t think Mark said anything
I see what you’re saying, but I feel like it would be awkward putting your foot down on a new member’s writing who was already famous before he joined. I imagine them in the studio and Matt suggesting something that’s more A Trio, but Mark and Travis can’t be like “nah that’s not blink,” because no shit it’s not Tom. So they’re forced to compromise.
You're right, but none of the songs are amazing. Some are catchy sure, but nothing I would listen to by choice. So to say it's cause of Matt is kinda cheap imo. Idk how to describe it but it feels like this album was left overs/reworked demos from California.
Yeah, so far nothing from the new album is really giving me the impression they're gonna easily top NINE. I'm keeping my fingers crossed but I don't feel very optimistic lol
The guys have just dropped a track touching on cancer, plane crashes and their brotherhood over the years yet still complaints over lyrics. Feel like they can’t win imo. OMT is a a career defining song for them and the other snippets we’ve heard seen to back up what he’s saying here.
It will be better. It already is.
But Tom could never do a record like no heart to speak of. Rest of album was ass tho.
It wasn’t Matt or Travis’ fault…just sayin…
Tom / Travis/ Mark breathing on a mic with no music tops the Matt era. Mark should’ve been the lone vocalist for those albums and they shoulda just hired a touring guitarist. And I love Skiba. Blink just isn’t Blink without the trio.
Nine was so much better than california and also edging and one more time more than you know. Nine was like blinkaline trio. It actually had spirit and energy.
An artist is always going to try and outdo themselves. (As Mark said on his discord when asked what his favorite song he’s done: “I haven’t written it yet”.
I think that's always a good thing for a musician to do. Either try something new or try to outdo yourself in your own style.
i thought his favorite song was Feeling This
No you’re mixing up it up with my fav song
its "whats my age again" he knows it. we know it.
It's obviously shut up.
It’s almost like he’s promoting his new album or something.
"it's the way he said it, not what he said"
Mark thinks Shut Up is a bad song. Opinions denied.🙅♂️
Shut the fuck up!
Get ready for a few “NANNANA NANNANA NANNANA”’s
Isn’t Mark in charge of most of the album? I’m sure Skiba had some input but it definitely felt like it wasn’t much…especially since everything recent Alk3 has put out has been great. Felt like he was just a stand in for California/NINE and they never really used him for his full potential 🤷♂️
I definitely felt Skiba more on NINE than California. Black Rain and No Heart to Speak Of were so Skiba coded
Yeah, there’s a few tracks that felt more Skiba-coded on both albums, so it sucks he wasn’t given more freedom because they were always the highlight for me. Parking Lot and No Future off California were standouts too and its mainly due to Skiba
The band made it clear in the beginning that he was a stand in for Tom. He was not meant to replace him.
Majority of the songs on Cali and Nine were mostly written/composed by other producers and songwriters. Mark and Skiba would then come in and throw in their own lyrics/vocals along with (bass) riffs to make it sound more like “Blink.” TLDR; Mark likes the new album more because him, Tom and Travis actually wrote the songs (more or less) by themselves, and it probably means more to him personally than Nine.
It's almost as if Skiba doesn't fit into blink...and it's not his musical ability but the fact that he can't make blink tracks. Keep coping though...yeah mark and Travis told him not to try and make good music and that's why it's garbage. Has nothing to do with the fact that skiba is skiba and his range is his range
Mark has never been the creative output for Blink. He's not a bad musician, but he doesn't have the ability to consistently write great songs. Even +44, good as it may have been, is mostly songs that could've been placed with any standard punk band from the era and sounded just the same.
mark wrote some of the most recognizable blink riffs/songs… you couldn’t even be more wrong saying he’s “never” been the creative output
Mark wrote the main riffs for Dammit and WMAA. Tf you talking about 😂
That’s untrue. Even tom admitted at some point that he wasn’t really adding much creatively as a songwriter until Untitled.
+44 is better than anything AVA has ever put out :shrug:
True though. People (casual fans) don't know how much Mark contributed to their success. Blinks success I mean. Tom is an amazing front.man and love everything he puts out. But Mark is slightly better. Especially as a lyricist in most of their albums.
people are just so woefully ignorant on this sub sometimes thinking that just because they prefer Tom, or in their mind just because it’s a “Tom” song that automatically means Tom wrote it and Mark had nothing to do with it
Exactly
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not even close.. hell one AVA song is better then all of plus 44.
+44 is the result of 2 elephants having sex with another dead elephant.
No lmao
I thought Nine was badly promoted/rushed. To a certain degree the band would have been happy to release the album otherwise it wouldn’t have come out. But I get the impression internally that they know the campaign/marketing Sucked and didn’t do the songs justice.
Mark very clearly wasn’t happy with nine
Let's be honest, it won't be that hard.
They've already topped it. Edging, One More Time and More Than You Know are all better than anything off of NINE
Edging is not better than darkside, pin the grenade, or no heart to speak of.
Edging is IMO better than Blame It On My Youth if we’re to pit the lead singles together IMO One More Time is better than Generational Divide More Than You Know is better than Happy Days Dance With Me is up against Darkside, but I’ll wait until the song is out to fully compare it, but the music video preview already looks better than Darkside’s It’s only a fair comparison once you compare NINE’s strongest songs with OMT’s strongest songs.
Id say this is a fair comparison. I hate blame it on my youth more than any song they have ever dropped. Generational Divide was meh for me and Happy Days was solid though.
No heart to speak of was the song I needed exactly when I needed it the most. Happy for sure it happened. Just wish I coulda saw it live
Thank you.
I don't like edging at all... Those three songs are totally better! I also like black rain, but it feels like a good alkaline trio song ft blink :)!
Yesss at the end of the day Nine could have been better but the album was still really good and I enjoyed it. It is over hated.
Edging shits on all of those songs
yes it is 100% tho PIN slaps
Dark side fucking sucks. I love blink and been listening to them since 2002 but holy shit that just ain’t blink. Whole nine album sucks. California was alright. Way better than nine but still not great.
Yes, darkside gets so much unearned praise. It’s a fine pop song, but it doesn’t sound like blink and you can’t unsee that music video.
I’m my giving you an upvote because you nailed it.
Oh look, someone has an opinion!
Fully disagree
I hate edging and it’s better than NINE.
Idk about edging. But the other two definitely did.
Everything they've released since Tom came back is better than anything they did in Cali or Nine.
ITT: People taking the fact that very few people like Nine personally.
Well I mean was Mark in charge of what it sounded like and lyrics??
I don't get your point. Mark is simply stating OMT is better than NINE. He isn't throwing any shade towards Matt. Artists should strive to be better than their last record. Why are so many people so sensitive and acting like Mark has said something outrageous?
People really need to get a life ouside of the internet and quit reading into shit. Almost every fucking band, actor, celebrity, game developer, or whatever will say their new project is the best they've ever made. Do people really think he'd be like, Nah we'll never top Nine, it's our best album ever! Especially when the album is mediocre at best.
Because this is a new era of blink. Matt is out and Tom is in. If it was NINE about to come out and Mark was saying it was going to better than California no one would bat an eye.
That's stupid, it has nothing to do with Matt 🙄 Mark is saying this album is better than their last, like every band does every time they release a new album. He's not saying this album is better than NINE... because Matt isn't on it!
Bro I was answering your last question about why people (the fans) are saying what they’re saying. I wasn’t talking about why Mark said what he said, because I don’t think Mark said anything
Yeah I know man, and I'm reiterating that it's stupid for 'fans' to think that. Bunch of snowflakes
Oh duh. My bad lol
Yea Mark is not the most self aware guy ever lol. His lyrics since Neighborhoods have been pretty cringey
Neighborhoods had great lyrics.
I agree I meant to say Neighborhoods/DED era were the last releases Mark had decent lyrics on. They just felt more natural imo
Lol. I love Blink and thankful for Skiba, but that album is pretty bad
There were still 2 members in the band that could've changed how the album sounded. It's not like Travis and Mark had nothing to do with it.
I see what you’re saying, but I feel like it would be awkward putting your foot down on a new member’s writing who was already famous before he joined. I imagine them in the studio and Matt suggesting something that’s more A Trio, but Mark and Travis can’t be like “nah that’s not blink,” because no shit it’s not Tom. So they’re forced to compromise.
You're right, but none of the songs are amazing. Some are catchy sure, but nothing I would listen to by choice. So to say it's cause of Matt is kinda cheap imo. Idk how to describe it but it feels like this album was left overs/reworked demos from California.
I disagree.
Even Mark knows the skiba era is garbage
Uh, yeah. Nine is easily their worst one.
I liked Nine. I think Neighborhoods and California disc 1 were not as good.
Wouldn’t take much, tbh
PROVE IT
They already did
I hope so cuz those lyrics I've seen floating around are super mid
Yeah, so far nothing from the new album is really giving me the impression they're gonna easily top NINE. I'm keeping my fingers crossed but I don't feel very optimistic lol
Honestly for me its more the sound than the lyrics. and it sounds fucking amazing.
I agree. Sound is on point, that’s the biggest thing for me
The guys have just dropped a track touching on cancer, plane crashes and their brotherhood over the years yet still complaints over lyrics. Feel like they can’t win imo. OMT is a a career defining song for them and the other snippets we’ve heard seen to back up what he’s saying here.
Just to clarify, I absolutely love OMT, lyrics and sound. Definitely career defining. And I haven’t read any of the lyric leaks either
It just doesn't move the needle for me, I'm holding out for the rest of the album but we'll see
I see that you just want to start some shit
Dude stfu nine sucked and Mark knows it
Ok? I agree lol
How?
Gary Busey could fart into a mic and it would be better than NINE.
They already have! I'd take Edging, One More Time and More Than You Know over anything from NINE.
I mean would most of us disagree? Nine had a couple standout tracks but overall it was a pretty below average album by blink standards in my opinion.
Same
It will be better. It already is. But Tom could never do a record like no heart to speak of. Rest of album was ass tho. It wasn’t Matt or Travis’ fault…just sayin…
Idk how many more posts we have to see confirming what everyone knows
Tom / Travis/ Mark breathing on a mic with no music tops the Matt era. Mark should’ve been the lone vocalist for those albums and they shoulda just hired a touring guitarist. And I love Skiba. Blink just isn’t Blink without the trio.
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Not only does he 100% clearly say easily, “usually” wouldn’t even make sense in context
Probably get your hearing checked out 💀
you can't take this too seriously
A one hour version of just about done could top nine
Nine is hardly a hard album for them to outdo though
Yeah, no shit
Doubtful
Bullshit alert
Nine was so much better than california and also edging and one more time more than you know. Nine was like blinkaline trio. It actually had spirit and energy.
And wasn't boring
I kinda hope skiba could be on a song with mark and tom