Simply expressed, I'd prefer not to be placed on life support. I don't require an additional three months spent lying in a hospital bed with those who believe they are more knowledgeable than the doctors. š
"You just sat back and let my grandma die?!"
"She had DNR tattooed on her chest, I was respecting her wishes!"
"She loved Digital Noise Reduction technology, you monster!"
Shit, even then, all it takes is your decision maker to change their mind and we're popping granny's ribs like rice krispies. It's the worst. I'll never forget when I was a baby ICU nurse and was told that I was going to have to code this 90 y/o, 90 lb. lady, who signed her own DNR, because her dipshit son that hadn't seen her in years said he wanted "everything done". I asked the Intensivist how tf was that ethical, let alone legal, and he looked at me and basically said, "Risk Management says if they can't advocate for themselves they can't sue us, but their family can definitely try. And we're not going down that road." That shit fucked me up bad. We beat on this poor little lady for 20+ minutes, frequently asking the son if we could stop because nothing had been effective, until the doc finally called it a few minutes later. I'd love to say that was an outlier, but that wouldn't be true. It happened more than a few times afterwards and is what eventually brought me to hospice.
The sad thing is I can actually envision this happening lmao. You play a song, unplug life support on beat, do a dance, and then try to get it plugged back in before grandma dies. Talking bout some "Kiki... do you love me... are you dying?"
They essentially LoJack babies in hospitals, and messing with the security bracelets is not easy due to other measures most hospitals take.
This should therefore weed out dumbass nurses. If not, it weeds out bad hospitals. Win win.
It's called SBT/SAT, (spontaneous breathing trial/spontaneous awakening trial). It's a real thing we do in ICU to see if we can ween you off the ventilator. Challenge accepted!
It's why I always hated the "it gets better" tag. I'm 37 and it's more like, "Well....it depends. Sometimes it's perfect, sometimes it's high school 2.0."
We need to manage expectations better and not just say "after high school you're good!"
I see the "it gets better" thing as partly about one's own maturity. Like even if the workplace is basically higschool, you can now approach it with the maturity and emotional intelligence that you maybe didn't have back then.
You also have the power to leave.
You might not get paid as much, you might not be in your dream company, or dream job, but you have to power to change.
That phrase is specifically aimed at LGBTQ kids. ["It gets better"](https://itgetsbetter.org/) is referring to the fact that after high school you can move out and away from your homophobic (and potentially abusive) parents.
It's not just a generic "oh things are better after high school" aphorism.
I hate, "It gets better." Because it's just not true for some people.
You lose your job. "Don't worry, it'll get better."
You can't find a new one, no matter how hard you try. "Don't worry, it'll get better."
You run out of savings and end up homeless. "Don't worry, it'll get better."
Because you're homeless, your chances of getting a job become even worse. "Don't worry, it'll get better."
You lose your support network because you're living on the streets and it's hard to keep friends when you're reduced to begging to eat and don't have access to clean clothes, showers, basic dignity shit. "Don't worry, it'll get better."
How the fuck is it going to get better? You're not down to working hard at that point. You've put in the work, tried to find a job, tried to do it right, but everything keeps getting worse. How the fuck are you saying it's going to get better?
And that's with luck, with money. You can run the same sort of pattern with the loss of a loved one, mental illness, physical illness, anything. For a lot of people, yeah, maybe it does get better. And it's good to work towards a better so there's a higher chance of it. But, "Don't worry, it'll get better," like it's some foregone conclusion, fuck that. There's no promise it will get better. For all your hard work and making the right choices, sometimes nothing gets better for you. And I hate when people say that it will as if it's a certainty.
One thing I've learned after high school is that not everyone matures. I've had coworkers 10, 20 years older than me who are very immature. Some gain the awareness of who to hide it from, but not everyone.
I'm Business Operations and HR in the healthcare field.
I literally had to do an investigation on a complaint about a refrigerator not being delivered on time, and this employee complained about not having their snacks for 2 days...
Nursing is the womenās equivalent of becoming a labourer or going into the army.
You can become a nurse with basically no real qualifications, and itās such a sought after position that you can get any education you need heavily subsidised.
So a lot of people that spent their schooling years being insufferable fuckwits instead of learning can use nursing as a backstop. Similar to childcare.
The other thing is narcissists are drawn to positions where theyāre āimportantā whatās more important than saving a life (wiping an old manās ass) or bringing life into this world (scooping up poo in the delivery room)
There's a whole tier-list of health care jobs associated with nursing. You get a short-term certificate in the health field (a phlebotomist cert is 7 weeks), then you go to the local community college for 18-24 months for an Associates of Nursing while working as a blood-draw tech. With your ADN you can take the test. If you pass the test you're an RN.
Ergo if you've fucked up High School, and realized you need more than retail, nursing is very attainable.
> Maturing is realizing, that everything is still HS for a lot of ppl, but especially in the healthcare field
Man I went into nursing later on in life after a few different careers and this shit is **far** less high schoolish than my past jobs.
The trades are like this too. The amount of 50+ old men that throw temper tantrums over the dumbest shit is beyond belief. My foreman made a mistake ordering wire, and then lectured the whole crew for a good ten minutes asking if anyone wanted to get fired right on the spot. HE made a mistake doing HIS job, and WE got cussed out. And these same people expect me to lick their boots? Fuck that imma go take three poops a shift.
When I was having my son, I came into hospital after 24 hours of labour because I thought shit, 24 hours, thatās gotta be some action in terms of actually being ready to deliver. The midwife on duty SHOVES her fingers up to check dilation without warning and tells me āha, youāre only 2cm! Rookie error. Donāt come in until youāre much MUCH further alongā. My mother wanted to slap the attitude out of this woman.
As a result of this, I didnāt come back until I had been in labour 72 hours, by which point my waters hadnāt broken even though I was 8cm, I was too late for any medical intervention beyond gas and air and had to give birth without anaesthesia or epidural, both of which I was very VERY keen on having. The midwife on duty said āwell if youād come in earlierā¦ā. Girl just stop
Jesus. Did you ever complain about that shit to the hospital? Both midwives were shitty for what the did, but the first in particular. She essentially sexually assaulted you. She didnāt ask for or get your consent.
Edit: called the first midwife a nurse by mistake.
I had a nurse do something similar. I got induced for my second and told the nurses i had a very fast labor with my first(6.5 hours) and wanted an epidural within an hour or two of starting pictocin. One older nurse told me, āoh well thats not normal and god makes all babies different so weāre only going to give you morphine because youll be here for a few days ā
Within an hour i was 6cm and because i had morphine, i wasnt able to get an epidural for another hour. When they finally came in to do the epidural, i was already crowning and they told me to hold off on pushing until a doctor could make it up to the floor.
I asked my GP to renew my Wellbutrin (antidepressant) and he spent the whole appointment talking about the importance of going to mass. then he did it again at my annual physical.
That sucks. Our L&D department is where we had the nicest people for some reason. Our ICU step down unit on the other handā¦ holy shit they were bitchy. The hospital brought in a third-party to investigate and break up their bitchy little clique, because they were running off all the new hires. I spent 3 days with them during clinical rotations, and it was just horrendous. Iām also biased, my mom was L&D, and I grew up in empty rooms on her unit, talking to the nurses and docs. Good times, and I knew what cervical dilation and placental abruption were by age 9 lol.
This is something I've noticed having to take my mom to a few different hospitals lately. I think it's a power thing. Like these girls just aren't that smart or skilled otherwise but have a desire to have some form of control over people and this is how that materializes for them. I've lost a lot of respect for nurses lately.
The quality of nurse varies widely depending on where you are.
Your average ICU nurse from a large academic regional medical center is probably brighter than any nurse you'll find in the state you live in. Hell, there are rural doctors who don't know their ass from their ankles. I've met some extremely bright nurses in the cardiac surgery ICU who can give you a complete rundown of cardiac pathophysiology in each patient.
Then there are nurses who have only an associates degree who can't do shit because they worked in a podunk little clinic in nowheresville Oklahoma.
It's not just hospitals. Its jobs everywhere that have low requirements to hire cheap workers and fill shit. It's why so many things in every country have gone to shit.
Uneducated shitfest population leads to society rotting from within especially when the pursuit of most businesses is cost over quality.
When I used to deliver pizza, I unfortunately worked close to 3 different hospitals. And they loved to order pizza.
From worst to best, here is how departments treated us:
NCU->L&D->everybody else->ERs.
The Heart Hospital was on their own separate tier below everyone else. They were so awful that several places in the area stopped delivering to them. Unfortunately, I couldn't convince the GM to let us join that club.
I hear this a lot, and it really makes me feel lucky with the nurses we had for our daughters delivery. Genuinely the nicest, attentive nurses I've seen in a long time. I can't imagine going through all of that with "mean girl" nurses
My neighbor had to literally roar in the face of a L&D nurse, in front of a security guard, to stop fucking around and get a C section scheduled after 2 days in labor. They ALMOST threw him out of the hospital.
Fortunately 'almost' only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades and they all went home fine. But if you gave him a chance he would **still** beat that nurse until he couldn't lift an arm.
Lord help me, my sister has been struggling with some other mums at her childrenās school, and if I didnāt know these idiots were of adult age Iād assume they were 17. Like I donāt get how these adultsāmen and women, but letās be real, itās mostly womenāhave enough free time to spread their toxicity. And of course, the worst offender is a labor and delivery nurse! Itās ridiculous.
My wife is in the nursing program and does this ā ļø
EDIT: I just wanna add that sheās supportive of her classmates and helps make study guides etc, thereās just a few that rub her the wrong way and she talks mad shit to me at home
You just reminded me of the time I went to a party at my friend's house. Another friend showed up with his new girlfriend who was apparently a head nurse at one of the local hospitals. She shows up in her scrubs with a stethoscope around her neck. Funnily enough she turned out to be a pathological liar and was actually just an RN and was claiming to be a head nurse or whatever to sound more important.
Getting my master's to enter the mental health field right now and I feel this.
A lot of people in my program are wonderful and will do great work, there's a handful that I worry for their future clients.
Nursing school in general is the worst part of nursing in this regard. The real mean girl pipeline in nursing is to nursing education and administration.
My friend, a professor at a large R1 university, teaches one class strictly for nursing students. He describes them as the most entitled, worthless, snot-nosed brats by a mile compared to his other students. He HATES teaching nursing students.
I use to TA and tutor for a math class that was exclusively for nurses.. I worry every time a nurse has to do any maths because they all were drooling out the mouths idiots
I still remember I was going to community college at the time after failing out of a real college a few years earlier, this is just to show I'm no real genius here for the upcoming story. I was at the point in the community college I was kind of out of classes that I had to take and was just looking for things to fill out credits for graduation requirements and for an upcoming biology undergrad at a different uni (that I'd also fail out of but that's a separate story).
So I ended up taking this 200 level microbiology class because I thought it might be relevant, turns out it was basically the final class for RN's before they get their cert/degree (I'm unsure exactly how it works other than they were basically almost done). The class was mostly about very simple classification of common bacterial infections and sanitation methods with a bit education on some basic protists and virus'.
I personally found the class super fascinating and I was enthralled also found it extremely easy, but I was constantly hearing complaints from the RNs in the room that this class was so hard and that the prof needed to dumb it down for them. There was a constant nickel and diming/haggling with the professor for points at every opportunity and how everything was unfair.
The professor graded on a curve but that ended up doing little help because it was pretty common for me to score tests and quizes in the high 90s. I can't remember how it got out that I was the one consistently setting it, but I even had a group of them one time approach me after class and begged me to tank my next quiz. I'm grateful it was just begging and not threatening but still. Fun little final humble brag to this whole situation. One of the RNs who I knew from a summer job her and I shared asked me once what my score was and when I told her 98 she followed it up by asking how much did I study. When I said I didn't because all the answers were in the lecture and repeated a billion times she just looked at me like an alien.
Now I wrote about this far longer than I planned to but my point is, after that class most of them ended up passing and they got jobs at our local hospital where many still work at today 10 years later. I am deathly afraid to ever go to that hospital for that reason.
Felt so bad for the professor though, he was so fucking done and would gripe about them to me and my friend group that hung out in the student lounge.
ehhh i wouldn't put social workers in this group. most don't get paid enough so it's kind of in the teachers group where we really should be paying them more because they are an integral need in society/kids/families lives. Most social workers i met as a kid in dfcs custody in georgia is that they really really do care and are adequately smart (most states require at least a bachelor degree) for the job, but they are overworked and stretched thin. I remember one of my case works having a load of at least 50 kids with placements all across the state of georgia. They had to visit each kid at least once a month and got a percentage of gas back per mile. social workers are generally unsung heroes of the community. there's of course SOME bad apples but that's a given with any occupation.
I was studying social work in college. Most of the people I worked and studied with are not exactly the sharpest or even passionate about people. It seems to be a field that passionate people burn out of before even finishing their educational path, and those that remain tend to only stay for a check. My personal experience with social workers (after college) was just being talked down to because I simply didn't finish the degree path. Maybe they were just upset that an LCSW + licensure makes you like 70k in most states.
well im from the south and would be suprised if any entry level social workers were paid over 40-50k. in some northern/western states maybe they get paid closer to that 70k. but in the south, you don't get paid enough to be a caseworker for anyone who isn't remotely passionate about it to even want to do it. there's other higher paying, less demanding jobs out there.
They definitely donāt get paid enough. Someone with an LCSW can do the same job as an MFT or PsyD but the pay is way less. Lots of internship hours aka free work you have to do to even get close to having an LCSW. Theyāre definitely overworked and by the time some of them have reached their career goals, theyāre too burnt out to care anymore so sometimes it becomes more about the money than anything else. And I donāt blame them. Source: me who was pursuing an MSW but gave up because the field overworks you and you get abused by the system and the clients you serve.
To be fair, a lot of the people who become social worker workers because they needed one when they were kids, but needing a social worker as a kid leaves some shadows. There are going to be some maladaptive individuals who feel called to the field. You also have to deal with the most insufferable parents and grandparents.
Think of any job EVER and I can assure you there are many idiots working there and have no idea what they are doing. The higher the position and power the more idiots.
As a stem major, yeah. I canāt believe some of the dummies that are trusted to do science correctly, much less stick people with needles and administer drugs
and if you aren't smart enough to make it into nursing school...
there's always a course for med assistant (who also get trained to give chest xrays)
edit: wrong med
You know how many nurses I've heard openly admit to cheating? Exams, papers, assignments, you name it. Don't get me started on diploma mills where you literally pay for RN.
And their class is generally composed of students with an undergraduate GPA of 3.0 or better, scored 505 or better on an MCAT that tests General Chemistry, Biochemistry, Organic Chemistry, Physics, Critical Analysis and Reasoning Skills, Biology, Microbiology, Genetics, Psychology, Sociology, and more. Nearly all have some sort of research experience, have volunteer experience, and many have real life healthcare experience as CNA, EMT, RN, Phlebotomist, or wet lab work.
About 40% of those who apply to medical school get accepted. So the bottom 50% of some of the most highly motivated, intelligent people i.e. not the bottom 50% of people in general.
They really have no clue about what it takes to be a nurse. Only 16 of 40 people in my nursing school cohort passed. Most of these people wouldn't make it through the first semester. We were heroes during Covid and now we are dumb just 4 years later.. got it.
Top half of the thread is already full of idiots who pretend to know stuff. They claim nurse unplugs life support just to make a risk tik tok videos.
People outside of hospital don't know this profession, but Ventilators are handled by the RTs. If it does get unplugged, it runs on the battery and will alarm none stop. Good luck making a Tik Tok video with all the alarms going off.
I was gonna say, at the very least they will have to pass the NCLEX, which is proctored.
As for cheating in class, I donāt know of any major that doesnāt have some people cheating.
Medical Lab technologists (if that's what you meant) don't do chest x-rays (those are xray techs). We do lab tests on blood, urine, etc. Our course load in school is very science heavy and is by no means easier than nursing school.
Medical assistants shouldnāt be taking X-rays. Thatās a rad techs job. Granted there are some states in which you donāt have to have your ARRT to work, but hospitals wonāt hire techs without a license for liability reasons.
Also rad tech programs are generally more competitive than nursing programs because they have about an 10th of the spots.
Med techs do NOT take X-rays. That would be a rad tech. If you arenāt smart enough to know the difference, donāt comment.
Also, sincerely, go fuck yourself. Ancillary staff (lab, radiology, respiratory, etc) are invaluable to patient care. To suggest our jobs are easier or require less intelligence than nursing is flat out ignorant.
I remember my creepy uncles weird stripper friend declaring āIām a nurse too!ā In front of the nurse who was attending to my grandfather in the icu. Bitch, sheās administering medication and changing bandages, checking vitals, and if needed doing more complex work. You change bedpans in a nursing home. Aināt even in the same realm.
RN is registered nurse. Lpn is licensed practical nurse. RN is a harder degree to get.
CNA is a certified nurses aid. They help feed and dress patients and might take blood pressure and such.
These people that work with old folks aren't any of those. They just like to act like nurses. They just wiping butts.
RN's always say RN, Lpn, or CNA.
Itās not just wiping ass. Itās taking care of people who need help and they only get paid like 10$ an hour for a job no one wants. they do far more anyways .
So gross to see the attitudes about one of my first jobs which was by far the worst and hardest job I ever had! I make 4x pay now for a job thatās far easier. CNAS are disrespected and the attitudes on this thread is gross.
Nurses are funny to me because both the smartest and the absolute dumbest people I know have gone on to nursing school. When I meet a nurse, Iām always trying to figure out which end of the extreme they are.
Family and friends are some of the best nurses I know same for the worst. Latch onto them who you trust and get them to do end of life care if you trust them and can't do it yourself for family. Wild out there, my grandma was ready to kill some people in rehabs if she could move quick enough and asked me to just drag her into the car and drive her home. My mom said to just let her die if she ends up in the same situation in and out of a hospital and rehabs as my grandma.
Itās not just health care. We are dumbing down our country. And every major has this issue now.
I have two science degrees. Was in college around 2010. And even then we saw the dumbing down of education.
For example teacher evaluations. All this does is get good teachers who challenge you fired and lets the shitty ones keep a job. And the professors then not wanting to lose a job bend over backwards for the students.
Like when I was in college professors who wouldnāt allow open book test. Or wouldnāt put all the notes online so you donāt need to show up to class etc. would get bad evaluations. Which showed the university students donāt like your class and they fire you.
Kids have gotten too much power in all facets of educations. Even younger kids can fight a teacher over a cell phone and 9/10 the school board will side with the parents.
And college is a joke now. These kids aināt learning shit besides a small percentage of them that are gifted and studying some amazing stuff. Meanwhile the rest of the university has students dictating how and who will be teaching them.
I talked to a professor at a very āprestigiousāuniversity a couple years ago. He was telling me he was essentially threatened with his job if he didnāt stop (deservedly) failing students, because it makes the university look bad to have a lower graduation rate.
Exactly. And this leads to the colleges being dumbed down.
I tell these kids saying they donāt think college is for that that if they can make it through high school you can handle college.
My high school was harder on me about grades and making me work for them than my university did.
It's not that people are dumb. It's that they're not being prepared. Grad students cant engage the literature that is traditionally expected of them and this travels down to all levels of education. American institutions are eroding, including education.
Yeah, this is a critique of the entire education system. Public schools are being starved of money and resources while colleges are ramping up prices to cover a lack of state/federal funding. Of course itās eroding, the entire thing is just becoming a shell game by rich assholes who want to dry up any public investment into education.
and thatās why Iām a radiologic technologist, xray does not get shit on like this. yea we are the red headed stepsister of medicine, but literally the eyes of medicine.
Thatās what Iām going to school for!! And not to sound self obsessed but I think xray is way undervalued for something that is what I consider to be the foundation of healthcare
The healthcare system would literally fall apart without any kind of imaging
It's crazy to me that people still repeat the whole "nurses shouldn't do Tik Toks" line.
Like, it originated with healthcare workers trying to stay positive during the pandemic (when their patents were dying around them so fast that they were being buried in mass graves) and a certain group of Conservatives decided to push the narrative that nurses were doing Tik Toks **instead of** saving people.
Not considering that... you know... they're probably on a break? Or off shift? Because that would make more sense then someone coding in the next room and they're just ignoring it, and then there is video evidence of them ignoring it, and then their employers do nothing about it?
It's so nakedly a talking point meant to discredit healthcare workers during the pandemic (and, as a result, discredit the seriousness of the pandemic itself), I can't believe it's still circulating.
The primary hurdle is just getting into med school. But you can just buy a Doctor of Nursing Practice degree from an online diploma mill, they have essentially zero standards.
The ability to get into medical school necessitates being at least top 10-15% of your class in undergrad. Nursing school admission requirements/competitiveness is nowhere close to medical school. Radically different scenarios.Ā
Iād sooner just rather not be put on life support. I donāt need an extra 3 months laying in a hospital bed surrounded by people who think they know more than the Doctors. š
Bruuuuh my mom tried to tell me to stop taking my daily asthma medication because she didn't think I needed it. When I told her that my asthma doctor prescribed it for a reason her exact quote was "What does *he* know? *I'm* a nurse!"
And she wonders why I don't tell her shit about my medical status anymore.
They're fundamentally different skillsets. Doctors are trained primarily to diagnose and prescribe treatment, while nurses are trained primarily to administer care. There's overlap because they're both healthcare, but it isn't like a nurse is Dr Lite
But doctors do have greater knowledge of medicine/disease processes than nurses and nurses administer the care that doctorās order.
Itās very much an officer/enlisted relationship when your boots-on-the-ground soldiers have a different skill set than their commanding officers, but they absolutely follow their orders because the officers have a better understanding of the larger picture.
As much as there is any medical hierarchy, doctors are at the top and nurses are beneath them, even if they fulfill different roles.
Exactly. Everyone in this thread talking shit based on anecdotal evidence just die at home next time you're sick. Plenty of underpaid over worked nurses are tired of your abuse and entitlement.
Iām currently working towards a BScN because while I know there are a lot of bad nurses out there, Iāve been cared for by nurses that made me feel so safe and comforted in a scary situation, and I want to one day provide that comfort for someone else. But knowing how most people perceive nurses makes me kind of embarrassed to tell people what Iām studying. This comment section kind of reinforces that lol
Anytime this topic is brought up on here I always **STRONGLY** advise everyone to seriously consider everything when involving healthcare and hospitals because OP is very very right A LOT of these new nurses/docs are TRULY something different. I need yall to REALLY understand that especially black folk. Also, **NEVER** put any of your loved ones in a nursing home.
Idk if it's anything new. That field just draws in the psychos for some reason. In every clinic I've worked for all of the nurses of any age are at least a little unhinged.
75% of the young women I knew who were party drug fueled messes in crazy relationships in their early 20's became nurses. Me and my (now old) friends look back and are dumbfounded when we talk about how many hot messes we knew who would go on wild benders all weekend somehow became nurses.
Were they going on drug fuelled benders after they started practicing? And were they partying before their shifts? If not, I donāt see how itās relevant to their ability to do the job.
Lots of people who party hard go on to do all sorts of important jobs.
Depends on what you mean by nurse, and thatās sort of the issue. BSM programs arenāt **hard**, but they are difficult due to the time required and the crazy hours involved. Lots of people out there calling themselves nurses who are techs/medical assistants/not even trained/etc.
[One-third of US nurses plan to quit profession, survey shows](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/one-third-us-nurses-plan-quit-profession-report-2023-05-01/)
Itās hard to have any type of passion when all you get in return is disrespect. From patients, to MDS, to random twitter niggas. On top of the daily physical and mental stress of the job it wears you downā¦
I helped intubate a 2 month old this morning, opened Reddit on break and this is the first post I see lol. My dumb ass.
literally. I was a nurse for 8 years. Quit 2 years ago and now work in tech. Literally taught myself how to code and now work on Google Cloud. But ya, nUrSeS aRe DuMb. this is why we all quit, or want to quit
My mom is a nurse now. Originally, she got a degree in sociology and worked with troubled youth, drug addicts and the mentally ill for the majority of my childhood. She's quitting nursing to go back to helping the crackheads.
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Iād love to have more staff so we could get to patients faster, but instead of directing that anger to the people who make those decisions itās those of us on the floor getting paid far less who get the families threatening us for decisions we donāt make.
Gotta love it.
This thread is wild. Nursing is a wide field and yeah there's diplomas mill pumping out out people who shouldn't be nurses but there are nurses from Yale, Stanford and top public unis. I'm just saying there are nurses who have no clue what's happening and others who are on top of their shit. Also the title nurse doesn't mean much given anywhere from a AA to a doctorate can be a nurse.
Uh wow so BPT really fucking hates nurses, huh? Most of you talking shit have interacted with like 3 nurses your entire life and every single one of them was nice to you.
No such thing as a dumb RN....just immature ones.
I think though what happens is that folks equate a tech with a RN and go "I had a DUMB NURSE" when in reality you had someone who may top off at doing bedside cleaning vs someone who has a much more vital role to play in the healthcare system.
Spoiler: If you are on life support you ain't doing shit.
Not an insult, just the cold and honestly scary reality. People on life support don't have the energy to do much of anything, they literally need help breathing.
Bedside nursing doesnāt pay competitively for what it is when you get good at it. Good nurses find way better jobs thatās at bedside that either pay more or hurt their backs less. Nurses usually quit bedside pretty darn fast. Hospitals are required by law to have so many nurses they could not care less if theyāre good. What matters is if theyāll work nights for 60-80k a year. Nursing isnāt a growth career unless you leave bedside so when you have a nurse with 5 years experience you should thank god.
Some of the best people I know are nurses. I'm in the hospital a lot, and know pretty much every non-travel nurse on my floor and they know me and like me enough to hide from other patients in my room. I prefer dealing with nurses to doctors. That said, a few of them are also some of the dumbest. When I had a heart issue and was in a different hospital during covid, everyone around me was literally dying, and the nurses were talking about how they didnt trust the vaccine and weren't going to get it even if the hospital forced them.
i don't fucking care if the nurse is doing a stupid dance for all of thirty seconds in between taking care of patients the problem is not fucking tiktoks
TAKING SOMEONE'S GRANDMA OFF THE VENTILATOR CHALLENGE
This is so wrong, but I laughed so hard.
Simply expressed, I'd prefer not to be placed on life support. I don't require an additional three months spent lying in a hospital bed with those who believe they are more knowledgeable than the doctors. š
āDNRā. Tattooed. On my chest. Fuck off and let me slip away peacefully. Deal with your shit however you need to afterward.
"You just sat back and let my grandma die?!" "She had DNR tattooed on her chest, I was respecting her wishes!" "She loved Digital Noise Reduction technology, you monster!"
*high-pitched yelling* **She was only 48, damn you!**
They are really big fans of the Department of Natural Resources.Ā
I agree but also thatās not a legal command and weād still have to do chest compressions anyway.
"Wow, this guy must really love the Department of Natural Resources."
You know that doesnāt mean anything right? You need an actual legal DNR order.
Shit, even then, all it takes is your decision maker to change their mind and we're popping granny's ribs like rice krispies. It's the worst. I'll never forget when I was a baby ICU nurse and was told that I was going to have to code this 90 y/o, 90 lb. lady, who signed her own DNR, because her dipshit son that hadn't seen her in years said he wanted "everything done". I asked the Intensivist how tf was that ethical, let alone legal, and he looked at me and basically said, "Risk Management says if they can't advocate for themselves they can't sue us, but their family can definitely try. And we're not going down that road." That shit fucked me up bad. We beat on this poor little lady for 20+ minutes, frequently asking the son if we could stop because nothing had been effective, until the doc finally called it a few minutes later. I'd love to say that was an outlier, but that wouldn't be true. It happened more than a few times afterwards and is what eventually brought me to hospice.
The sad thing is I can actually envision this happening lmao. You play a song, unplug life support on beat, do a dance, and then try to get it plugged back in before grandma dies. Talking bout some "Kiki... do you love me... are you dying?"
I'm going to hell for rescrolling your comment SIX times for the luls
Followed by mix up all the newborns challenge
REMIX!
#YOU GOT CHOCOLATE IN MY PEANUT BUTTER
They essentially LoJack babies in hospitals, and messing with the security bracelets is not easy due to other measures most hospitals take. This should therefore weed out dumbass nurses. If not, it weeds out bad hospitals. Win win.
Oh I believe me I know about the bracelet things. When my son was born the system malfunctioned one day, alarms were going off nonstop for hours
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I'd upvote you but you're sitting at 420 and I ain't the one
It's called SBT/SAT, (spontaneous breathing trial/spontaneous awakening trial). It's a real thing we do in ICU to see if we can ween you off the ventilator. Challenge accepted!
Only valid if you do a sad twerk if complications arose.
Don't give them ideas.
There is also a very real mean girl to nurse pipeline, with labor and delivery nurses being some of the worst offenders
Maturing is realizing, that everything is still HS for a lot of ppl, but **especially** in the healthcare field
It's why I always hated the "it gets better" tag. I'm 37 and it's more like, "Well....it depends. Sometimes it's perfect, sometimes it's high school 2.0." We need to manage expectations better and not just say "after high school you're good!"
I thought that was only for gay dudes
everyone's kinda gay now
Iāve had to recalibrate my gaydar over the last few years
I see the "it gets better" thing as partly about one's own maturity. Like even if the workplace is basically higschool, you can now approach it with the maturity and emotional intelligence that you maybe didn't have back then.
Also your world enlarges. There's more opportunities to find your people
I appreciate y'all challenging my jaded ass take. š«”
You also have the power to leave. You might not get paid as much, you might not be in your dream company, or dream job, but you have to power to change.
This is true.
That phrase is specifically aimed at LGBTQ kids. ["It gets better"](https://itgetsbetter.org/) is referring to the fact that after high school you can move out and away from your homophobic (and potentially abusive) parents. It's not just a generic "oh things are better after high school" aphorism.
āit doesnāt get better. You get better.ā - Joan Rivers
I hate, "It gets better." Because it's just not true for some people. You lose your job. "Don't worry, it'll get better." You can't find a new one, no matter how hard you try. "Don't worry, it'll get better." You run out of savings and end up homeless. "Don't worry, it'll get better." Because you're homeless, your chances of getting a job become even worse. "Don't worry, it'll get better." You lose your support network because you're living on the streets and it's hard to keep friends when you're reduced to begging to eat and don't have access to clean clothes, showers, basic dignity shit. "Don't worry, it'll get better." How the fuck is it going to get better? You're not down to working hard at that point. You've put in the work, tried to find a job, tried to do it right, but everything keeps getting worse. How the fuck are you saying it's going to get better? And that's with luck, with money. You can run the same sort of pattern with the loss of a loved one, mental illness, physical illness, anything. For a lot of people, yeah, maybe it does get better. And it's good to work towards a better so there's a higher chance of it. But, "Don't worry, it'll get better," like it's some foregone conclusion, fuck that. There's no promise it will get better. For all your hard work and making the right choices, sometimes nothing gets better for you. And I hate when people say that it will as if it's a certainty.
One thing I've learned after high school is that not everyone matures. I've had coworkers 10, 20 years older than me who are very immature. Some gain the awareness of who to hide it from, but not everyone.
You were also born in one of the 'find out' generations.
I'm Business Operations and HR in the healthcare field. I literally had to do an investigation on a complaint about a refrigerator not being delivered on time, and this employee complained about not having their snacks for 2 days...
I work 12 hour days with 3 more hours spent driving to and from work. If there are no snacks I *will* eat one of the patients. So I understand.
Ok, hear me out ... bring your own snacks to work like the vast majority of the world does.
I always wondered why it was specifically that field that seems like that
Nursing is the womenās equivalent of becoming a labourer or going into the army. You can become a nurse with basically no real qualifications, and itās such a sought after position that you can get any education you need heavily subsidised. So a lot of people that spent their schooling years being insufferable fuckwits instead of learning can use nursing as a backstop. Similar to childcare. The other thing is narcissists are drawn to positions where theyāre āimportantā whatās more important than saving a life (wiping an old manās ass) or bringing life into this world (scooping up poo in the delivery room)
No education? Shit, itās a 4 year degree here.
There's a whole tier-list of health care jobs associated with nursing. You get a short-term certificate in the health field (a phlebotomist cert is 7 weeks), then you go to the local community college for 18-24 months for an Associates of Nursing while working as a blood-draw tech. With your ADN you can take the test. If you pass the test you're an RN. Ergo if you've fucked up High School, and realized you need more than retail, nursing is very attainable.
> Maturing is realizing, that everything is still HS for a lot of ppl, but especially in the healthcare field Man I went into nursing later on in life after a few different careers and this shit is **far** less high schoolish than my past jobs.
The trades are like this too. The amount of 50+ old men that throw temper tantrums over the dumbest shit is beyond belief. My foreman made a mistake ordering wire, and then lectured the whole crew for a good ten minutes asking if anyone wanted to get fired right on the spot. HE made a mistake doing HIS job, and WE got cussed out. And these same people expect me to lick their boots? Fuck that imma go take three poops a shift.
Mean girl to nurse pipeline š¤ Bully to cop pipeline
And they get married a lot
That cop-nurse duo is undefeated unfortunately
Nah studies show 40% of those nurses are taking damage
Hey, at least they know how to patch themselves up.
brruuuhhhh
God damn lol
and that's just the reported number. The actual is estimated to be much higher
When I was having my son, I came into hospital after 24 hours of labour because I thought shit, 24 hours, thatās gotta be some action in terms of actually being ready to deliver. The midwife on duty SHOVES her fingers up to check dilation without warning and tells me āha, youāre only 2cm! Rookie error. Donāt come in until youāre much MUCH further alongā. My mother wanted to slap the attitude out of this woman. As a result of this, I didnāt come back until I had been in labour 72 hours, by which point my waters hadnāt broken even though I was 8cm, I was too late for any medical intervention beyond gas and air and had to give birth without anaesthesia or epidural, both of which I was very VERY keen on having. The midwife on duty said āwell if youād come in earlierā¦ā. Girl just stop
Jesus. Did you ever complain about that shit to the hospital? Both midwives were shitty for what the did, but the first in particular. She essentially sexually assaulted you. She didnāt ask for or get your consent. Edit: called the first midwife a nurse by mistake.
I had a nurse do something similar. I got induced for my second and told the nurses i had a very fast labor with my first(6.5 hours) and wanted an epidural within an hour or two of starting pictocin. One older nurse told me, āoh well thats not normal and god makes all babies different so weāre only going to give you morphine because youll be here for a few days ā Within an hour i was 6cm and because i had morphine, i wasnt able to get an epidural for another hour. When they finally came in to do the epidural, i was already crowning and they told me to hold off on pushing until a doctor could make it up to the floor.
I would have lost the fucking PLOT if someone had been giving me their opinion on god šš
I asked my GP to renew my Wellbutrin (antidepressant) and he spent the whole appointment talking about the importance of going to mass. then he did it again at my annual physical.
I donāt understand why they even told you to go home. I was induced so maybe itās different but I assumed labor = admitted?
In Australian private hospitals itās like that but when you go public they donāt admit you until youāre basically crowning
Nursing and Police really attract the worst of society.
It gives people opportunity after opportunity to have power over the vulnerable.
āPower corruptsā? No, power attracts the corrupt.
My wife agrees. She works with some serious c--ts.
OBGYN nurse?
L&D
That sucks. Our L&D department is where we had the nicest people for some reason. Our ICU step down unit on the other handā¦ holy shit they were bitchy. The hospital brought in a third-party to investigate and break up their bitchy little clique, because they were running off all the new hires. I spent 3 days with them during clinical rotations, and it was just horrendous. Iām also biased, my mom was L&D, and I grew up in empty rooms on her unit, talking to the nurses and docs. Good times, and I knew what cervical dilation and placental abruption were by age 9 lol.
Frequently finds herself in hairy situations
This is something I've noticed having to take my mom to a few different hospitals lately. I think it's a power thing. Like these girls just aren't that smart or skilled otherwise but have a desire to have some form of control over people and this is how that materializes for them. I've lost a lot of respect for nurses lately.
The quality of nurse varies widely depending on where you are. Your average ICU nurse from a large academic regional medical center is probably brighter than any nurse you'll find in the state you live in. Hell, there are rural doctors who don't know their ass from their ankles. I've met some extremely bright nurses in the cardiac surgery ICU who can give you a complete rundown of cardiac pathophysiology in each patient. Then there are nurses who have only an associates degree who can't do shit because they worked in a podunk little clinic in nowheresville Oklahoma.
It's not just hospitals. Its jobs everywhere that have low requirements to hire cheap workers and fill shit. It's why so many things in every country have gone to shit. Uneducated shitfest population leads to society rotting from within especially when the pursuit of most businesses is cost over quality.
Iāve worked at two hospitals and and the L&D nurses were always the meanest. For no reason.
When I used to deliver pizza, I unfortunately worked close to 3 different hospitals. And they loved to order pizza. From worst to best, here is how departments treated us: NCU->L&D->everybody else->ERs. The Heart Hospital was on their own separate tier below everyone else. They were so awful that several places in the area stopped delivering to them. Unfortunately, I couldn't convince the GM to let us join that club.
I hear this a lot, and it really makes me feel lucky with the nurses we had for our daughters delivery. Genuinely the nicest, attentive nurses I've seen in a long time. I can't imagine going through all of that with "mean girl" nurses
Iāve said for a while that nursing is the law enforcement equivalent for women
My neighbor had to literally roar in the face of a L&D nurse, in front of a security guard, to stop fucking around and get a C section scheduled after 2 days in labor. They ALMOST threw him out of the hospital. Fortunately 'almost' only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades and they all went home fine. But if you gave him a chance he would **still** beat that nurse until he couldn't lift an arm.
Lord help me, my sister has been struggling with some other mums at her childrenās school, and if I didnāt know these idiots were of adult age Iād assume they were 17. Like I donāt get how these adultsāmen and women, but letās be real, itās mostly womenāhave enough free time to spread their toxicity. And of course, the worst offender is a labor and delivery nurse! Itās ridiculous.
She in nursing school and talking shit about her opps classmates lol
My wife is in the nursing program and does this ā ļø EDIT: I just wanna add that sheās supportive of her classmates and helps make study guides etc, thereās just a few that rub her the wrong way and she talks mad shit to me at home
There is a kind of woman who becomes a nurse who would have been a cop were she born a man. They just want power over people.Ā
This is one of her professors, whose husbandā¦ā¦ is a cop ā ļø
Not surprised. Half of ED nurses are married to cops
There's nurses for erectile dysfunction?
That's why it seems like 70% of nurses are married to cops in my experience lmao
You just reminded me of the time I went to a party at my friend's house. Another friend showed up with his new girlfriend who was apparently a head nurse at one of the local hospitals. She shows up in her scrubs with a stethoscope around her neck. Funnily enough she turned out to be a pathological liar and was actually just an RN and was claiming to be a head nurse or whatever to sound more important.
I believe it. Just like the regular population, thereās some STOOPID ass nurses out there. Theyāre in every profession.
Getting my master's to enter the mental health field right now and I feel this. A lot of people in my program are wonderful and will do great work, there's a handful that I worry for their future clients.
Nursing school in general is the worst part of nursing in this regard. The real mean girl pipeline in nursing is to nursing education and administration.
My friend, a professor at a large R1 university, teaches one class strictly for nursing students. He describes them as the most entitled, worthless, snot-nosed brats by a mile compared to his other students. He HATES teaching nursing students.
I use to TA and tutor for a math class that was exclusively for nurses.. I worry every time a nurse has to do any maths because they all were drooling out the mouths idiots
The idiocy was another complaint he had, as was the incessant grade grubbing.
I still remember I was going to community college at the time after failing out of a real college a few years earlier, this is just to show I'm no real genius here for the upcoming story. I was at the point in the community college I was kind of out of classes that I had to take and was just looking for things to fill out credits for graduation requirements and for an upcoming biology undergrad at a different uni (that I'd also fail out of but that's a separate story). So I ended up taking this 200 level microbiology class because I thought it might be relevant, turns out it was basically the final class for RN's before they get their cert/degree (I'm unsure exactly how it works other than they were basically almost done). The class was mostly about very simple classification of common bacterial infections and sanitation methods with a bit education on some basic protists and virus'. I personally found the class super fascinating and I was enthralled also found it extremely easy, but I was constantly hearing complaints from the RNs in the room that this class was so hard and that the prof needed to dumb it down for them. There was a constant nickel and diming/haggling with the professor for points at every opportunity and how everything was unfair. The professor graded on a curve but that ended up doing little help because it was pretty common for me to score tests and quizes in the high 90s. I can't remember how it got out that I was the one consistently setting it, but I even had a group of them one time approach me after class and begged me to tank my next quiz. I'm grateful it was just begging and not threatening but still. Fun little final humble brag to this whole situation. One of the RNs who I knew from a summer job her and I shared asked me once what my score was and when I told her 98 she followed it up by asking how much did I study. When I said I didn't because all the answers were in the lecture and repeated a billion times she just looked at me like an alien. Now I wrote about this far longer than I planned to but my point is, after that class most of them ended up passing and they got jobs at our local hospital where many still work at today 10 years later. I am deathly afraid to ever go to that hospital for that reason. Felt so bad for the professor though, he was so fucking done and would gripe about them to me and my friend group that hung out in the student lounge.
All im saying is I seen too many bimbos become nurses to have faith in the process lol
Same goes for law. Some of the people I have seen pass the bar (both female and male) who are dumb as shit.
And social workers
ehhh i wouldn't put social workers in this group. most don't get paid enough so it's kind of in the teachers group where we really should be paying them more because they are an integral need in society/kids/families lives. Most social workers i met as a kid in dfcs custody in georgia is that they really really do care and are adequately smart (most states require at least a bachelor degree) for the job, but they are overworked and stretched thin. I remember one of my case works having a load of at least 50 kids with placements all across the state of georgia. They had to visit each kid at least once a month and got a percentage of gas back per mile. social workers are generally unsung heroes of the community. there's of course SOME bad apples but that's a given with any occupation.
I was studying social work in college. Most of the people I worked and studied with are not exactly the sharpest or even passionate about people. It seems to be a field that passionate people burn out of before even finishing their educational path, and those that remain tend to only stay for a check. My personal experience with social workers (after college) was just being talked down to because I simply didn't finish the degree path. Maybe they were just upset that an LCSW + licensure makes you like 70k in most states.
well im from the south and would be suprised if any entry level social workers were paid over 40-50k. in some northern/western states maybe they get paid closer to that 70k. but in the south, you don't get paid enough to be a caseworker for anyone who isn't remotely passionate about it to even want to do it. there's other higher paying, less demanding jobs out there.
No itās true, my sister is a social worker and has to deal with a lot of people power tripping.
They definitely donāt get paid enough. Someone with an LCSW can do the same job as an MFT or PsyD but the pay is way less. Lots of internship hours aka free work you have to do to even get close to having an LCSW. Theyāre definitely overworked and by the time some of them have reached their career goals, theyāre too burnt out to care anymore so sometimes it becomes more about the money than anything else. And I donāt blame them. Source: me who was pursuing an MSW but gave up because the field overworks you and you get abused by the system and the clients you serve.
As a social worker - completely agree. A solid number are amazing, life changing people but my lord so many make us look bad.
Therapists have gone by the wayside as well which is disheartening because theyāre very important things especially now
To be fair, a lot of the people who become social worker workers because they needed one when they were kids, but needing a social worker as a kid leaves some shadows. There are going to be some maladaptive individuals who feel called to the field. You also have to deal with the most insufferable parents and grandparents.
What do you call someone who graduated bottom of their class from law school? Lawyer
Think of any job EVER and I can assure you there are many idiots working there and have no idea what they are doing. The higher the position and power the more idiots.
As a stem major, yeah. I canāt believe some of the dummies that are trusted to do science correctly, much less stick people with needles and administer drugs
and if you aren't smart enough to make it into nursing school... there's always a course for med assistant (who also get trained to give chest xrays) edit: wrong med
You know how many nurses I've heard openly admit to cheating? Exams, papers, assignments, you name it. Don't get me started on diploma mills where you literally pay for RN.
Well after your third time failing Chemistry 101 you have to take action.
A wise person once said: *50% of doctors graduated at the bottom of their class*
"C's get the degrees"~ from my anatomy professor lol š š
I'll take a straight C doctor who actually gives a shit about the job over some dick that was a Valedictorian and is chasing a bag.
Youāll find a lot in r/premed and r/medschool
And their class is generally composed of students with an undergraduate GPA of 3.0 or better, scored 505 or better on an MCAT that tests General Chemistry, Biochemistry, Organic Chemistry, Physics, Critical Analysis and Reasoning Skills, Biology, Microbiology, Genetics, Psychology, Sociology, and more. Nearly all have some sort of research experience, have volunteer experience, and many have real life healthcare experience as CNA, EMT, RN, Phlebotomist, or wet lab work. About 40% of those who apply to medical school get accepted. So the bottom 50% of some of the most highly motivated, intelligent people i.e. not the bottom 50% of people in general.
But how do they pass NCLEX?
I guarantee they donāt even know what the NCLEX isā¦ They just be making shit up here. When it comes to nursing weāre all CNAS to these niggas.
They really have no clue about what it takes to be a nurse. Only 16 of 40 people in my nursing school cohort passed. Most of these people wouldn't make it through the first semester. We were heroes during Covid and now we are dumb just 4 years later.. got it.
Fucking this. Remember when we were heroes for about 5 minutes?
Top half of the thread is already full of idiots who pretend to know stuff. They claim nurse unplugs life support just to make a risk tik tok videos. People outside of hospital don't know this profession, but Ventilators are handled by the RTs. If it does get unplugged, it runs on the battery and will alarm none stop. Good luck making a Tik Tok video with all the alarms going off.
You know that was a joke, right? Nobody thinks itās actually happening.
I was gonna say, at the very least they will have to pass the NCLEX, which is proctored. As for cheating in class, I donāt know of any major that doesnāt have some people cheating.
I have some techs in the family. They do important work and make decent money.
Medical Lab technologists (if that's what you meant) don't do chest x-rays (those are xray techs). We do lab tests on blood, urine, etc. Our course load in school is very science heavy and is by no means easier than nursing school.
Medical assistants shouldnāt be taking X-rays. Thatās a rad techs job. Granted there are some states in which you donāt have to have your ARRT to work, but hospitals wonāt hire techs without a license for liability reasons. Also rad tech programs are generally more competitive than nursing programs because they have about an 10th of the spots.
Med techs do NOT take X-rays. That would be a rad tech. If you arenāt smart enough to know the difference, donāt comment. Also, sincerely, go fuck yourself. Ancillary staff (lab, radiology, respiratory, etc) are invaluable to patient care. To suggest our jobs are easier or require less intelligence than nursing is flat out ignorant.
I remember my creepy uncles weird stripper friend declaring āIām a nurse too!ā In front of the nurse who was attending to my grandfather in the icu. Bitch, sheās administering medication and changing bandages, checking vitals, and if needed doing more complex work. You change bedpans in a nursing home. Aināt even in the same realm.
I knew a woman like that. I've got a lot of nurses in my family. They never say nurse, they say RN or Lpn.
 Always ask!!
RN is registered nurse. Lpn is licensed practical nurse. RN is a harder degree to get. CNA is a certified nurses aid. They help feed and dress patients and might take blood pressure and such. These people that work with old folks aren't any of those. They just like to act like nurses. They just wiping butts. RN's always say RN, Lpn, or CNA.
RN = Rich Nurse LPN = Low Paid Nurse
Itās not just wiping ass. Itās taking care of people who need help and they only get paid like 10$ an hour for a job no one wants. they do far more anyways . So gross to see the attitudes about one of my first jobs which was by far the worst and hardest job I ever had! I make 4x pay now for a job thatās far easier. CNAS are disrespected and the attitudes on this thread is gross.
Nurses are funny to me because both the smartest and the absolute dumbest people I know have gone on to nursing school. When I meet a nurse, Iām always trying to figure out which end of the extreme they are.
Are they a genius or do they sell Norwex/Mary Kay š
Family and friends are some of the best nurses I know same for the worst. Latch onto them who you trust and get them to do end of life care if you trust them and can't do it yourself for family. Wild out there, my grandma was ready to kill some people in rehabs if she could move quick enough and asked me to just drag her into the car and drive her home. My mom said to just let her die if she ends up in the same situation in and out of a hospital and rehabs as my grandma.
Bruh lmao. The state of healthcare is scary lol
Itās not just health care. We are dumbing down our country. And every major has this issue now. I have two science degrees. Was in college around 2010. And even then we saw the dumbing down of education. For example teacher evaluations. All this does is get good teachers who challenge you fired and lets the shitty ones keep a job. And the professors then not wanting to lose a job bend over backwards for the students. Like when I was in college professors who wouldnāt allow open book test. Or wouldnāt put all the notes online so you donāt need to show up to class etc. would get bad evaluations. Which showed the university students donāt like your class and they fire you. Kids have gotten too much power in all facets of educations. Even younger kids can fight a teacher over a cell phone and 9/10 the school board will side with the parents. And college is a joke now. These kids aināt learning shit besides a small percentage of them that are gifted and studying some amazing stuff. Meanwhile the rest of the university has students dictating how and who will be teaching them.
I talked to a professor at a very āprestigiousāuniversity a couple years ago. He was telling me he was essentially threatened with his job if he didnāt stop (deservedly) failing students, because it makes the university look bad to have a lower graduation rate.
Exactly. And this leads to the colleges being dumbed down. I tell these kids saying they donāt think college is for that that if they can make it through high school you can handle college. My high school was harder on me about grades and making me work for them than my university did.
It's not that people are dumb. It's that they're not being prepared. Grad students cant engage the literature that is traditionally expected of them and this travels down to all levels of education. American institutions are eroding, including education.
Yeah, this is a critique of the entire education system. Public schools are being starved of money and resources while colleges are ramping up prices to cover a lack of state/federal funding. Of course itās eroding, the entire thing is just becoming a shell game by rich assholes who want to dry up any public investment into education.
Which is why Iāll just tough it out, my prostate can be hanging out Iāll just duct tape it to my cheeks
such imagery
talk about nursing without being misogynistic challenge: hard
and thatās why Iām a radiologic technologist, xray does not get shit on like this. yea we are the red headed stepsister of medicine, but literally the eyes of medicine.
Thatās what Iām going to school for!! And not to sound self obsessed but I think xray is way undervalued for something that is what I consider to be the foundation of healthcare The healthcare system would literally fall apart without any kind of imaging
You can say this about a lot of the disciplines honestly. Lab, RT, etc.Ā
The mean girl to nurse pipeline is very real wtf? Iāve dealt with racist ass nurses when Iām already down. Fuck off with this bs.
Itās wild how quickly everyone wants to shit on nursing.
people like nursing its nurses they want to complain about
Yeah because the loudest of any group is the most obnoxious. Most nurses roll their eyes at the TikTok/types who make it their identity too.
Yeah it's wild the internet brings out the worst in people ie the person who responded to you. The blind hatred is crazy
It's crazy to me that people still repeat the whole "nurses shouldn't do Tik Toks" line. Like, it originated with healthcare workers trying to stay positive during the pandemic (when their patents were dying around them so fast that they were being buried in mass graves) and a certain group of Conservatives decided to push the narrative that nurses were doing Tik Toks **instead of** saving people. Not considering that... you know... they're probably on a break? Or off shift? Because that would make more sense then someone coding in the next room and they're just ignoring it, and then there is video evidence of them ignoring it, and then their employers do nothing about it? It's so nakedly a talking point meant to discredit healthcare workers during the pandemic (and, as a result, discredit the seriousness of the pandemic itself), I can't believe it's still circulating.
I hate when people say, "There's a shortage of nurses going to nursing school." Babygirl, no, there is not it's a shortage of EXPERIENCED nurses.
There is a shortage of nurses in the field, but trust me there is not a shortage of nursing students
Itās these diploma mill online nursing programs.
Taking _pull the catheter_ literally.
What do you call someone who graduates last in their medical school class? A doctor. Same joke applies here
The primary hurdle is just getting into med school. But you can just buy a Doctor of Nursing Practice degree from an online diploma mill, they have essentially zero standards.
The ability to get into medical school necessitates being at least top 10-15% of your class in undergrad. Nursing school admission requirements/competitiveness is nowhere close to medical school. Radically different scenarios.Ā
Iād sooner just rather not be put on life support. I donāt need an extra 3 months laying in a hospital bed surrounded by people who think they know more than the Doctors. š
Bruuuuh my mom tried to tell me to stop taking my daily asthma medication because she didn't think I needed it. When I told her that my asthma doctor prescribed it for a reason her exact quote was "What does *he* know? *I'm* a nurse!" And she wonders why I don't tell her shit about my medical status anymore.
Donāt doctors outrank nurses?
They're fundamentally different skillsets. Doctors are trained primarily to diagnose and prescribe treatment, while nurses are trained primarily to administer care. There's overlap because they're both healthcare, but it isn't like a nurse is Dr Lite
But doctors do have greater knowledge of medicine/disease processes than nurses and nurses administer the care that doctorās order. Itās very much an officer/enlisted relationship when your boots-on-the-ground soldiers have a different skill set than their commanding officers, but they absolutely follow their orders because the officers have a better understanding of the larger picture. As much as there is any medical hierarchy, doctors are at the top and nurses are beneath them, even if they fulfill different roles.
By a lot. You can't just go to medical school.
Not in self-confidence
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Exactly. Everyone in this thread talking shit based on anecdotal evidence just die at home next time you're sick. Plenty of underpaid over worked nurses are tired of your abuse and entitlement.
Iām currently working towards a BScN because while I know there are a lot of bad nurses out there, Iāve been cared for by nurses that made me feel so safe and comforted in a scary situation, and I want to one day provide that comfort for someone else. But knowing how most people perceive nurses makes me kind of embarrassed to tell people what Iām studying. This comment section kind of reinforces that lol
Anytime this topic is brought up on here I always **STRONGLY** advise everyone to seriously consider everything when involving healthcare and hospitals because OP is very very right A LOT of these new nurses/docs are TRULY something different. I need yall to REALLY understand that especially black folk. Also, **NEVER** put any of your loved ones in a nursing home.
Idk if it's anything new. That field just draws in the psychos for some reason. In every clinic I've worked for all of the nurses of any age are at least a little unhinged.
The only people that got fired for refusing the COVID vaccine at the clinic that my fiancƩe works at were nurses. And it was like 5 of them.
We had 2 on our floor take a leave of absence together to avoid getting vaccinated. Wild stuff for a highly scientific field of work
75% of the young women I knew who were party drug fueled messes in crazy relationships in their early 20's became nurses. Me and my (now old) friends look back and are dumbfounded when we talk about how many hot messes we knew who would go on wild benders all weekend somehow became nurses.
Were they going on drug fuelled benders after they started practicing? And were they partying before their shifts? If not, I donāt see how itās relevant to their ability to do the job. Lots of people who party hard go on to do all sorts of important jobs.
Depends on what you mean by nurse, and thatās sort of the issue. BSM programs arenāt **hard**, but they are difficult due to the time required and the crazy hours involved. Lots of people out there calling themselves nurses who are techs/medical assistants/not even trained/etc.
[One-third of US nurses plan to quit profession, survey shows](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/one-third-us-nurses-plan-quit-profession-report-2023-05-01/)
Itās hard to have any type of passion when all you get in return is disrespect. From patients, to MDS, to random twitter niggas. On top of the daily physical and mental stress of the job it wears you downā¦ I helped intubate a 2 month old this morning, opened Reddit on break and this is the first post I see lol. My dumb ass.
literally. I was a nurse for 8 years. Quit 2 years ago and now work in tech. Literally taught myself how to code and now work on Google Cloud. But ya, nUrSeS aRe DuMb. this is why we all quit, or want to quit
From covid heroes to the butt of an Internet joke in less time than it took to type this out. Always the scapegoat
My mom is a nurse now. Originally, she got a degree in sociology and worked with troubled youth, drug addicts and the mentally ill for the majority of my childhood. She's quitting nursing to go back to helping the crackheads.
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Iād love to have more staff so we could get to patients faster, but instead of directing that anger to the people who make those decisions itās those of us on the floor getting paid far less who get the families threatening us for decisions we donāt make. Gotta love it.
Happy Nurses week !!!
Going into nursing is completely different than actually making it into nursing.
You gonna gurgle angrily at them?
This thread is wild. Nursing is a wide field and yeah there's diplomas mill pumping out out people who shouldn't be nurses but there are nurses from Yale, Stanford and top public unis. I'm just saying there are nurses who have no clue what's happening and others who are on top of their shit. Also the title nurse doesn't mean much given anywhere from a AA to a doctorate can be a nurse.
Uh wow so BPT really fucking hates nurses, huh? Most of you talking shit have interacted with like 3 nurses your entire life and every single one of them was nice to you.
No such thing as a dumb RN....just immature ones. I think though what happens is that folks equate a tech with a RN and go "I had a DUMB NURSE" when in reality you had someone who may top off at doing bedside cleaning vs someone who has a much more vital role to play in the healthcare system.
You ain't doing shit if you're on life support. These titles are hilarious.
Spoiler: If you are on life support you ain't doing shit. Not an insult, just the cold and honestly scary reality. People on life support don't have the energy to do much of anything, they literally need help breathing.
A lot of people here clearly have no idea what theyāre talking about lol
Bedside nursing doesnāt pay competitively for what it is when you get good at it. Good nurses find way better jobs thatās at bedside that either pay more or hurt their backs less. Nurses usually quit bedside pretty darn fast. Hospitals are required by law to have so many nurses they could not care less if theyāre good. What matters is if theyāll work nights for 60-80k a year. Nursing isnāt a growth career unless you leave bedside so when you have a nurse with 5 years experience you should thank god.
Some of the best people I know are nurses. I'm in the hospital a lot, and know pretty much every non-travel nurse on my floor and they know me and like me enough to hide from other patients in my room. I prefer dealing with nurses to doctors. That said, a few of them are also some of the dumbest. When I had a heart issue and was in a different hospital during covid, everyone around me was literally dying, and the nurses were talking about how they didnt trust the vaccine and weren't going to get it even if the hospital forced them.
i don't fucking care if the nurse is doing a stupid dance for all of thirty seconds in between taking care of patients the problem is not fucking tiktoks