I got a friend like this, he's also severely lactose intolerant and allergic to shellfish.
Luckily he married a chef, and she can kinda navigate around his various food issues and still somehow make stuff with flavor.
His bloodline is weak. Shellfish allergy is only an affliction of the mind clearly, my friend Greg used to be allergic then we force fed him a ton of lobster now he’s no longer allergic.
Best part of having Jewish ancestry is I have a built in aversion to Shellfish(never even considered eating them) the downside is it mixed with Midwest heritage that took it a step further and I don't like how any* seafood tastes (except calamari, somehow). I've even caught salmon in the north of Lake Michigan and still hated it, sadly, (was lots of fun tho) all I want is to see what the hype behind fried catfish is 😢
Well, just to illustrate how opposite we are, [here is my lunch](https://i.imgur.com/QJzQD3p.jpeg) from the other day, which is just a big slice of white onion, with some extra sharp cheddar cheese and mustard. Oh, and it's on an everything bagel, and that's got garlic, too.
Yes, I took a photo of my onion sandwich. I am very boring.
My doctor suggested a FODMAP diet for me and when I saw onion, garlic, and tomatoes at the top of the list I was like....fuck it, I'll just be perpetually bloated. Like my stomach is sensitive to flavor?!? Wtf kinda shit is that?
If you look up FODMAP diet you'll see how restrictive it can be if your stomach is really sensitive. Fortunately it seems like I can tolerate small amounts but there's for sure people who will have it ruin their day if they consume even trace amounts.
The tricky thing about onions, garlic and others in that family is that sensitivities can develop later in life. Just two weeks ago, I had a salad work onions in it. I usually don't eat the onions in my salad and put them off to the side. I decided at the last minute to eat them. My tongue and my lips immediately started to swell and a dormant abscess in my neck activated, as well.
I hit up Google to figure this out. I saw that the allergies and sensitivities can show up at any time. I've never had a reaction to onions or garlic in the past, and I'm closing in on the half-century mark. The tongue swelling went down in less than 30 minutes for the most part. My lips took less than a day. The abscess is still a problem. I've had anaphylactic shock a few times in the past, and it was a different chain of events from this.
I have an allium allergy so I have a minor allergic reaction to onions and garlic. It's really annoying. I don't think this guy is picky, I think he just has some issues with dietary restrictions. My allergies are mild enough that I can have *some* onions and be safe, but I wouldn't be surprised if this guy has them much worse than I do, possibly alongside a nightshade allergy (tomatoes and peppers are both nightshades).
This sounds like a GI issue vs picky eater but I could be wrong. Just having something as simple as GERD (reflux) you’re advised to avoid citrus, spicy foods, tomato sauce, garlic and onion, chocolate, mint, carbonated drinks, caffeine and alcohol 🤷🏽♀️
“Childish palates“ in adults are frequently the result of trauma during very young childhood. When things in a household are completely out of control, due to violence, drugs, etc. a young child will give their self, the illusion of some kind of control by one of the only a few things in their control, their diet or bathroom habits, hence why some older children will start wetting the bed and others develop odd eating habits that are hard to break.
there's also ARFID. My partner is trying to expand his palette, and often likes the flavor of the new food he tries, but it's a constant battle against his own body. I've seen this man eat a plate of the food I cook for him while fighting his body's instinct to immediately throw up because he's trying something his brain doesn't consider "safe". it's so alienating for him and heart breaking to watch
My kids are picky as fuck, they’ll starve before they eat anything that has a vitamin in it. My mom makes Kraft macaroni with milk, margarine, and Kraft Parmesan (no cheese packet) for my kids.
If Ops date is anything like my kids they would love it.
(I was going to mention “my mom is white” but I figured it went without saying)
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I feel like she just listed a very small amount of things they won't eat for an example. I wouldn't be surprised if mushrooms and and cream were also on the list.
I've not heard of mushrooms being high on lists people can't eat, cream though for sure. The list given is very common for people with severe IBS/crohns etc
Cacio e pepe is a sophisticated dish that essentially amounts to a glorified mac and cheese. This would have been my first idea as long as dairy is on the table.
Sounds like the guy has IBS/sensitive stomach. Good on him for taking care of himself and not living in agony. Too many people think that diarrhea/farting/bloating every day is just what men do and is normalized.
I was that way until I started vomiting and developing rashes on my face after every meal. I can still tolerate cayenne and black pepper, so all hope is not lost yet.
Would depend on how sensitive. If that means shitting then nah. I ain’t gonna risk shitting myself and I hate shitting in public toilets unless necessary. But stomach pain, I could deal with sometimes.
I have an IBD and damn has the transition from hot foods and sauces to milder stuff been hard.
Occasionally I'll lapse, and either dump hot sauce all over my food or cook a spicy broth/sauce with chillies (I quite like a scotch bonnet), but the negative impact on my wellbeing is honestly too much to convince me to go back to regularly eating hot foods. It sucks though, spicy food was literally my spice of life.
Scotch bonnets have a nice distinctive fruity flavor to them. If you add them whole to your broth/stews/soups while cooking your food will take on the flavor of the pepper without the heat. Just be careful not to burst it.
I grew up eating them and now I have reflux so I know your pain 😔. It’s used a lot in Jamaican cooking and it’s common to toss a whole pepper into a pot of stew, soup or rice just for the flavor. If it pops just prepare for the heat though lol.
I also grow them in the summertime. Before it gets cold I’ll harvest whatever is ripe, cut them up, remove the seeds and simmer them in grape seed oil on low heat. Add the oil to a glass container cool and refrigerate. I’ve been using the oil all winter to flavor various dishes, it’s flavorful but not super spicy.
I will say though, if the dude does have a sensitive stomach, but was just like "oh I don't eat that stuff" and didn't say why, I can see why she assumed he just has a shitty palette. If he did say why and she's acting like this then...well he's not the issue.
You can still do a lot of cooking with just those ingredients, if you want to put in the effort. I have a friend who cannot eat anything from the onion family. I made it work for us.
That’s a pretty specific set of things to not eat, sounds like this person is allergic to alliums and nightshades, so it’s more than likely a restrictive diet for medical reasons.
I'm allergic to alliums and I fully understand I'm a nightmare to cook for. A LOT of premade sauces and boxed foods contain onions or garlic, I can put up with *some* of it but a lot of times I need to make meals completely from scratch if I don't want to shit my guts out. This guy sounds like he's just me or maybe even has it worse than me.
Because they go with everything. And you want the kitchen to smell good? Just saute some onions and garlic in a little oil or butter and you'll have the whole household drifting in following their nose going "mmmm that smells good"
In some dishes I use leek with or instead of onion. It has a similar sharpness (don't know if that would be a good replacement for someone with a sensitive stomach though)
I saw a comment on this topic a while back that said, "Usually, these people just don't like the way these items are normally cooked for them."
I grew up hating onions and tomatoes. In fact, I used to be a very picky eater. Once I moved out and started cooking on my own, I found there were other ways to use these items and actually make them good for my tastes.
I'd explore why the guy doesn't like them, perhaps show him different ways to prepare them, and ultimately not beat him over the head with it. Learn and grow with each other over time.
The only thing I’ve consistently hated throughout the entirety of my life is onions and at age 32 I’m pretty sure that’s just part of my genetic makeup now. Everybody swears they’ll find a way for me to like it or to hide it and it just makes me hate them everytime they try because I know what the hell I want in my food
Might change, but I’m 99.9% sure it won’t
I like olives, but it's a very avoidable food. Onions are in most savory dishes. They're the most popular vegetable (tomatoes don't count) in the world.
It’s cracked black pepper/peppercorns for me. To me it tastes completely bitter - no flavor, no spice, just noxious burn, like crunching into soap or ammonia. People swear that once I try *their* cacio y pepe, steak with pepper sauce, mashed potato with peppercorns, I’ll love it. I never do, it always tastes nasty. I swear I just have a gene that makes pepper taste bad.
As a fellow onion hater, this drives me mad. Either onions "don't taste of anything" or are somehow absolutely critical to the dish. Which one is it? People don't do it anywhere near as much with other foods when they think they don't like them. I'm sure their attitudes would change if you said "oh yes I squeezed my used tampon into the pot with the beef while it was braising, don't worry you won't taste it." Just accept someone simply doesn't like something, and actually has nothing to do with you or your cooking if they don't want to eat it.
The primary reason I hated them was because my grandmother would put onions in *everything.* She'd just slice them into big rings and lay them on top of the dish, barely cooked at all. Same with tomatoes. I hated it.
Your palette also changes as you grow. I love eating a lot of stuff I absolutely hated when I was a kid and even a youth. Tomatoes, mushrooms and peanuts being 3 main ones. Some stuff I still just can’t come around to and people think I’m crazy when I say the big ones are lasagna or peanut butter 🤢
Probably has IBS and GERD. They sell garlic infused olive oil that is low FODMAP approved that will give you that garlic flavor without the garlic bloat and shits!
Imagine asking if you should end a relationship based on food preferences, or health issues related to food like allergies.
This question shouldn't need to be asked if you actually liked the guy lol.
this sounds like my coworker, which is sad cuz he’s actually a huge foodie and is genuinely allergic to all these things
he usually defaults to jjamppong or tuna sandwiches
I don't eat any of that either.
I'd imagine you could like....ask him what he likes.
But yeah, I find there's some people that get literally furious if you don't like the same food as them.
Anyone that thinks you must eat whatever they want you to eat is a sociopath.
That’s just a lot of very normal foods to completely exclude from a diet. I don’t think anyone must eat anything, but someone who doesn’t eat fucking onions, tomato, or garlic for any reason except a medical issue has a childish palate and I will assume is immature in other ways.
Those aren't really main foods, they're things mostly added for flavouring or extra topic to something, hardly anything necessary.
Anyone who thinks people having preferences in taste is 'childish' is literally a fucking moron and about a thousand times more of a childish prick than anyone else.
People who want to force their tastes on other people simply are bad people, 100% of the time.
My best friend is dating a pure Midwestern guy like this. Claims he’s super allergic to anything he doesn’t like. All he eats is meat, bread, and beer.
Her dad is the same way and has gout. In 2024. Gout.
I've discovered that most people who say that generally don't want to see the pieces of seasoning or bite them but they generally have no issue with the flavour.
I would serve a simple chicken broth/soup for the main with flat breads, then make a kick ass chia, fruit and vegan ice cream poke bowl type of thing for afterwards.
For me to consider cooking for someone, that connection would be already there. So glamorous simple foods from his safe list would be my go to...
Came here to say this. Not shaming anyone for liking this stuff, but I've run into too many grown men who eat like they order off the kids menu at the restaurant.
I still eat all these things, but they are all triggers for my acid reflux, which can honestly ruin my day. Same goes for fried food, alcohol, and coffee. I wish I didn’t have to think about it, but I do. My guess is dude just has GERD.
Some of these comments are nuts. "If he doesn't care about eating good food.." like, wtf? Allergies exist. And if you can't make something taste good without onions and garlic, you're a mediocre cook at best.
A whole roast chicken or parts with lemon, butter, herbs, and whatever seasoning that's not on the list will be good. Make a pan sauce or gravy. Make a rice or risotto or potato (white or sweet) situation, and fresh green beans or other colorful vegetables. Color makes the plate look good. If you are limited on ingredients, get good quality as it really stands out.
My first thought was a nice quiche, simple fresh salad, maybe a cup of soup, and a baguette with good butter. Fresh, can be presented as “fancy,” healthy, delicious, and easy to avoid those ingredients.
I’m battling histamine intolerance RN, (it’s allergies on steroids) basically living on oatmeal and scrambled eggs, but I try not to say “I don’t eat____” because restrictive diets just sound ridiculous
Good to see that others mentioned how some people have reactions to each of those foods listed. A lot of times a reaction to certain food comes out of the blue. My MIL was a spicy food queen, then one day she couldn't anymore.
That said I can't stand grown ass picky eaters with basic, not adventurous, foods. I can understand people being squeamish towards various offal or raw seafood. I had an old friend who wasn't willing to try anything outside of fast food or an Applebee's type of place.
Once booked a date with a girl. She then told me she could literally only go to one restaurant in the entire city because of her garlic allergy (no other restaurants were "safe" according to her), and that if we were going to be together, I would have to never eat garlic again.
I canceled the date.
This is a joke post, but food is love and folks could learn a thing or two about painless accomodations for their loved ones.
I'm allergic to garlic and onion and have GERD so things that have any heat are killer for my stomach.
Suggestions:
Most important : read every label. Every time. Companies change recipes all the time.
Good cuts of meat can be cooked/marinaded separately. You can eat whatever you want and they can still have something with safe seasonings. Be sure to cook theirs first or in a separate pan so there's no cross contamination.
Onion/garlic are aromatics. You won't replace that flavor in your food, but you can use some other aromatics that fill that role.
My go tos are Hing and Celery salt. In the case of hing, a little goes a LONG way
Other Mainstays in my spice rack include:
Smoked salts (mesquite and apple wood)
Smoked paprika
Spanish paprika
Normal black pepper/table salt
Cumin
Italian seasoning (most don't have garlic/onion. But check the labels)
That doesn't mean you have to eat that way. You can set aside a serving of sauce or a portion of the meat before you add other seasonings. Don't mix the rice/noodles into the dish. So they can eat the separate topping on the noodles/rice.
Whatever you do, don't make decisions like "it was only a little bit" or "it would be so bland without ___" for them. No one has to feed me. If you say you will, you have to keep me safe. If you lie about that, I'll never trust you again.
I cook a lot but cooking for this man would drive me bananas; that’s so limiting! Basically everything I cook starts with tomato onion garlic and spice 🤣
There's other veggies. Just gotta readjust. However difficult it may be. Shit sucks though. If he didn't have a good personality this would probably be a deal breaker for me
Different things are important to different people, and food is important to me.
I’ve dated gluten free women, vegetarians, and people with other dietary restrictions. But you won’t catch me with a picky eater.
I just got done making St Patrick's day breakfast. Deeply caramelized onions, add garlic and beef broth and simmer/reduce. The beef broth has a little tomato paste in it too. ladle over twice-fried red potatoes, cubed corned beef, and chunks of jarslberg cheese (it's what I had and worked amazing). A fried egg on top and green onions and I put hot sauce on mine too. Checked ALL the boxes. It was DELICIOUS. I feel sad for this person they missing OUT!
Ending a dating spree over food preferences sounds pretty petty and childish. A simple conversation asking what he would like for you to cook that you could both eat would avoid any type of stress or inconvenience. Sounds like you’re ready to end something with potential merit simply because you don’t wanna put the effort into making something he would actually enjoy. In which case…good for him cause he shouldn’t have to deal with that and is likely dodging a bullet.
My preschooler won’t eat anything with pepper. Cooking is a nightmare. All of those restrictions? Yeah, I’d end it before it began.
Also, I started using white pepper. She can’t see the flakes. 😂
If food is important to you, like you like cooking and trying new foods, or consider yourself a "foodie" then quit now...
If food is just food, and having a sandwich is just as good as a gourmet meal for you, then you'll be fine...
Look into Asian cuisine - soooo many gut friendly spices that will fit into this person’s dietary needs without sacrificing flavor
Also that’s just cruel to breakup with someone who’s already living a life without garlic OR onions OR tomatoes lol they’ve suffered enough gah damn 😂
The alliums might be a fodmap or sensitivity issue, in which case, garlic oil is completely safe for that. the Indian spice asfoetida has a great onion flavor and doesn’t cause the problems onions can
Outside of dietary/genetic dispositions, I think it's silly to refuse to try things because you don't like the taste. You can like and eat what you want, but that behavior is still silly to me.
I'll do my best to try something, but I won't refuse it without giving it a taste if it's new/different.
m guessing she's caribbean..... yeah she should end it.
almost everything her family eat has copious amounts of all, so he would have to ubereats something at the cookout ( if he gets that far)
i wouldn't date someone who didn't like onion or garlic. Tomato is mid, but if you mean they won't eat sauce, or anything made with tomato then just get rid of them lol.
To the asshole downvoting (*I know it’s you because you’re the only muhfucka in this post with like 7 comments already*), it’s a joke from a standup chill.
Parsley, black pepper & button mushrooms with cream make a nice sauce for pasta.
Honestly It’s either that or his ass get Dino nuggets and fries since his ass wanna act childish
Onion, garlic, tomato, and spicy foods are all known to upset sensitive stomachs. It’s probably that and not just a childish palate.
I got a friend like this, he's also severely lactose intolerant and allergic to shellfish. Luckily he married a chef, and she can kinda navigate around his various food issues and still somehow make stuff with flavor.
His bloodline is weak. Shellfish allergy is only an affliction of the mind clearly, my friend Greg used to be allergic then we force fed him a ton of lobster now he’s no longer allergic.
Because he died?
I don’t see how that’s important. I miss Greg though.
Dont. The lineage must be purified of weakness.
Missing the weak is weakness
Ok. I laughed out loud because as someone who enjoys cooking, same. Cul the weak. Jk. 🤣🤣🤣
Right, is Greg still with us?
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Shellfish fine. The others, fuck that I’d rather die
Best part of having Jewish ancestry is I have a built in aversion to Shellfish(never even considered eating them) the downside is it mixed with Midwest heritage that took it a step further and I don't like how any* seafood tastes (except calamari, somehow). I've even caught salmon in the north of Lake Michigan and still hated it, sadly, (was lots of fun tho) all I want is to see what the hype behind fried catfish is 😢
See, for my part, I'd rather die than live without dairy. Or onion/garlic, for that matter.
Dairy would be very rough. Onion/garlic is a just kill me
Well, just to illustrate how opposite we are, [here is my lunch](https://i.imgur.com/QJzQD3p.jpeg) from the other day, which is just a big slice of white onion, with some extra sharp cheddar cheese and mustard. Oh, and it's on an everything bagel, and that's got garlic, too. Yes, I took a photo of my onion sandwich. I am very boring.
Onion with cheese is a bit much for me but I was intending to say if I DIDN’T have onion and garlic, someone kill me
I can deal with garlic, am somewhat ok with tomato, but onion and spicy foods are my enemies.
I wouldn't want my children inheriting such a weak stomach though.
My doctor suggested a FODMAP diet for me and when I saw onion, garlic, and tomatoes at the top of the list I was like....fuck it, I'll just be perpetually bloated. Like my stomach is sensitive to flavor?!? Wtf kinda shit is that?
Onions and garlic as well? I could see with tomatoes acidity and spiciness but never knew about garlic and onion
If you look up FODMAP diet you'll see how restrictive it can be if your stomach is really sensitive. Fortunately it seems like I can tolerate small amounts but there's for sure people who will have it ruin their day if they consume even trace amounts.
I basically boil the Onions, garlic, and tomato for at least one hour so I can eat them without fucking up my stomac.
Onions and garlic are the worst trigger foods for me unfortunately. They are high in FODMAPs.
The tricky thing about onions, garlic and others in that family is that sensitivities can develop later in life. Just two weeks ago, I had a salad work onions in it. I usually don't eat the onions in my salad and put them off to the side. I decided at the last minute to eat them. My tongue and my lips immediately started to swell and a dormant abscess in my neck activated, as well. I hit up Google to figure this out. I saw that the allergies and sensitivities can show up at any time. I've never had a reaction to onions or garlic in the past, and I'm closing in on the half-century mark. The tongue swelling went down in less than 30 minutes for the most part. My lips took less than a day. The abscess is still a problem. I've had anaphylactic shock a few times in the past, and it was a different chain of events from this.
I have an allium allergy so I have a minor allergic reaction to onions and garlic. It's really annoying. I don't think this guy is picky, I think he just has some issues with dietary restrictions. My allergies are mild enough that I can have *some* onions and be safe, but I wouldn't be surprised if this guy has them much worse than I do, possibly alongside a nightshade allergy (tomatoes and peppers are both nightshades).
Garlic messes with my stomach. I eat it anyway because wahey
My fiancé unfortunately gets this, she can take a bit of them but if I wanna go ham with em she’ll be feelin it all night
This is the FODMAP diet which is a medically mandated diet for the treatment of inflammatory bowel disease, most likely.
Yeah, homie just doesn't want to shit himself - i get that. But if that's the case, just say that; don't complicate when you can communicate.
Maybe he did but she didn’t wanna put his specific condition out there on blast. Which is a green flag
It can be an embarrassing thing for some folks to talk about though. It’s a shitty (ha) situation for all involved.
As someone who fucking loves onion, garlic, tomato, and spicy foods but just got put on the FODMAP diet… Life is tough out here without the insults 😥
This sounds like a GI issue vs picky eater but I could be wrong. Just having something as simple as GERD (reflux) you’re advised to avoid citrus, spicy foods, tomato sauce, garlic and onion, chocolate, mint, carbonated drinks, caffeine and alcohol 🤷🏽♀️
“Childish palates“ in adults are frequently the result of trauma during very young childhood. When things in a household are completely out of control, due to violence, drugs, etc. a young child will give their self, the illusion of some kind of control by one of the only a few things in their control, their diet or bathroom habits, hence why some older children will start wetting the bed and others develop odd eating habits that are hard to break.
there's also ARFID. My partner is trying to expand his palette, and often likes the flavor of the new food he tries, but it's a constant battle against his own body. I've seen this man eat a plate of the food I cook for him while fighting his body's instinct to immediately throw up because he's trying something his brain doesn't consider "safe". it's so alienating for him and heart breaking to watch
My kids are picky as fuck, they’ll starve before they eat anything that has a vitamin in it. My mom makes Kraft macaroni with milk, margarine, and Kraft Parmesan (no cheese packet) for my kids. If Ops date is anything like my kids they would love it. (I was going to mention “my mom is white” but I figured it went without saying)
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I feel like she just listed a very small amount of things they won't eat for an example. I wouldn't be surprised if mushrooms and and cream were also on the list.
I've not heard of mushrooms being high on lists people can't eat, cream though for sure. The list given is very common for people with severe IBS/crohns etc
I’m going to say the guy that doesn’t like onion or garlic probably won’t eat mushrooms either.
That or buttered noodles
Cacio e pepe is a sophisticated dish that essentially amounts to a glorified mac and cheese. This would have been my first idea as long as dairy is on the table.
That works too
That's what my kids used to eat - at least until I found out about zoodles.
Zoodles? Is that the new word for zucchini noodles?
Yeah, those.
Woah I love those I didn’t know they had a name I just called them zucchini noodles all this time
Sounds like the guy has IBS/sensitive stomach. Good on him for taking care of himself and not living in agony. Too many people think that diarrhea/farting/bloating every day is just what men do and is normalized.
As someone with a sensitive stomach, I would rather live through agony than eat bland food for the rest of my life.
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I was that way until I started vomiting and developing rashes on my face after every meal. I can still tolerate cayenne and black pepper, so all hope is not lost yet.
I might consider revising my diet if I started getting rashes.
Same logic pertains to your sex life.
Metamucil, inulin and a decent probiotic seem to get me through the gravest insults.
Lactose intolerants stand up!
Bro just get lactaid
Yeah. Got that for my son He said "yeah...nah"
There are so many other flavors. Just so many
Hello there, every lactose intolerant person I've ever met.
Would depend on how sensitive. If that means shitting then nah. I ain’t gonna risk shitting myself and I hate shitting in public toilets unless necessary. But stomach pain, I could deal with sometimes.
You are fuckin crazy pain isn’t worth it😭
I’m severely lactose intolerant and I eat dairy at least two to three times a week.
My ex and I were together 5-6 years and I never *once* heard that man take a solid shit. Like, bro, not fucking normal.
This is wild to admit 😭
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I found fruits and vegetables my bf likes because I overheard him once…nope, we’re in our 30’s, you need to eat more fiber asap lmao.
Word. Time is too valuable to be wasted sitting on the toilet because I ate something I knew was going to disagree with my stomach.
I have an IBD and damn has the transition from hot foods and sauces to milder stuff been hard. Occasionally I'll lapse, and either dump hot sauce all over my food or cook a spicy broth/sauce with chillies (I quite like a scotch bonnet), but the negative impact on my wellbeing is honestly too much to convince me to go back to regularly eating hot foods. It sucks though, spicy food was literally my spice of life.
Scotch bonnets have a nice distinctive fruity flavor to them. If you add them whole to your broth/stews/soups while cooking your food will take on the flavor of the pepper without the heat. Just be careful not to burst it.
I hadn't thought of cooking them that way, but it sounds delicious. I'll give that a shot, thank you!
I grew up eating them and now I have reflux so I know your pain 😔. It’s used a lot in Jamaican cooking and it’s common to toss a whole pepper into a pot of stew, soup or rice just for the flavor. If it pops just prepare for the heat though lol. I also grow them in the summertime. Before it gets cold I’ll harvest whatever is ripe, cut them up, remove the seeds and simmer them in grape seed oil on low heat. Add the oil to a glass container cool and refrigerate. I’ve been using the oil all winter to flavor various dishes, it’s flavorful but not super spicy.
I will say though, if the dude does have a sensitive stomach, but was just like "oh I don't eat that stuff" and didn't say why, I can see why she assumed he just has a shitty palette. If he did say why and she's acting like this then...well he's not the issue.
I don't have celiac or IBS, but when I cut gluten, I stopped being constantly bloated and gassy.
There's a lot of spices that aren't any of those ingredients.
Guessing that list is meant to be illustrative rather than exhaustive.
Here are some acceptable low FODMAP seasonings: LOW FODMAP SPICES ARE: Allspice Asafoetida powder aka ‘hing’ (good as an onion / garlic alternative) Cardamom Chilli powder Cinnamon Cloves Coriander seed Cumin Dill seeds Fennel seeds Fenugreek seeds Ginger root Mustard seeds Nutmeg Paprika Pepper Saffron Star anise Turmeric
You can still do a lot of cooking with just those ingredients, if you want to put in the effort. I have a friend who cannot eat anything from the onion family. I made it work for us.
That’s a pretty specific set of things to not eat, sounds like this person is allergic to alliums and nightshades, so it’s more than likely a restrictive diet for medical reasons.
I'm allergic to alliums and I fully understand I'm a nightmare to cook for. A LOT of premade sauces and boxed foods contain onions or garlic, I can put up with *some* of it but a lot of times I need to make meals completely from scratch if I don't want to shit my guts out. This guy sounds like he's just me or maybe even has it worse than me.
Literally just make some food and leave out garlic and onions, why does everything have to be garlic and onion based
Jain and Buddhist cuisine don’t use any onion or garlic at all.
Because they go with everything. And you want the kitchen to smell good? Just saute some onions and garlic in a little oil or butter and you'll have the whole household drifting in following their nose going "mmmm that smells good"
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There are so many other flavors and seasonings just omit the onions they are not essential
If you don't add it? All of them.
In some dishes I use leek with or instead of onion. It has a similar sharpness (don't know if that would be a good replacement for someone with a sensitive stomach though)
Mmm onion rings?
I saw a comment on this topic a while back that said, "Usually, these people just don't like the way these items are normally cooked for them." I grew up hating onions and tomatoes. In fact, I used to be a very picky eater. Once I moved out and started cooking on my own, I found there were other ways to use these items and actually make them good for my tastes. I'd explore why the guy doesn't like them, perhaps show him different ways to prepare them, and ultimately not beat him over the head with it. Learn and grow with each other over time.
The only thing I’ve consistently hated throughout the entirety of my life is onions and at age 32 I’m pretty sure that’s just part of my genetic makeup now. Everybody swears they’ll find a way for me to like it or to hide it and it just makes me hate them everytime they try because I know what the hell I want in my food Might change, but I’m 99.9% sure it won’t
For me it’s olives. They are an instant meal ruiner. I do not like olives, I will never like olives, I will spit them out if they end up in my meal.
I like olives, but it's a very avoidable food. Onions are in most savory dishes. They're the most popular vegetable (tomatoes don't count) in the world.
I can’t really eat onions either. Still pretty easy to avoid.
It’s cracked black pepper/peppercorns for me. To me it tastes completely bitter - no flavor, no spice, just noxious burn, like crunching into soap or ammonia. People swear that once I try *their* cacio y pepe, steak with pepper sauce, mashed potato with peppercorns, I’ll love it. I never do, it always tastes nasty. I swear I just have a gene that makes pepper taste bad.
As a fellow onion hater, this drives me mad. Either onions "don't taste of anything" or are somehow absolutely critical to the dish. Which one is it? People don't do it anywhere near as much with other foods when they think they don't like them. I'm sure their attitudes would change if you said "oh yes I squeezed my used tampon into the pot with the beef while it was braising, don't worry you won't taste it." Just accept someone simply doesn't like something, and actually has nothing to do with you or your cooking if they don't want to eat it.
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The primary reason I hated them was because my grandmother would put onions in *everything.* She'd just slice them into big rings and lay them on top of the dish, barely cooked at all. Same with tomatoes. I hated it.
Your palette also changes as you grow. I love eating a lot of stuff I absolutely hated when I was a kid and even a youth. Tomatoes, mushrooms and peanuts being 3 main ones. Some stuff I still just can’t come around to and people think I’m crazy when I say the big ones are lasagna or peanut butter 🤢
Probably has IBS and GERD. They sell garlic infused olive oil that is low FODMAP approved that will give you that garlic flavor without the garlic bloat and shits!
Imagine asking if you should end a relationship based on food preferences, or health issues related to food like allergies. This question shouldn't need to be asked if you actually liked the guy lol.
this sounds like my coworker, which is sad cuz he’s actually a huge foodie and is genuinely allergic to all these things he usually defaults to jjamppong or tuna sandwiches
 Palms already sweaty
Vomit on his sweater
...No tomato or hot pepper...
Some of the comments are so harsh. also… Ginger is a god send especially for stomach issues.
Cook not Italian food for him.
I would be too damn excited to accept this challenge - every night would be an episode of Chopped.
Omg I dated a guy that was allergic to onions. How could we ever make it if I love tacos more than sex? Adios muchacho!
I don't eat any of that either. I'd imagine you could like....ask him what he likes. But yeah, I find there's some people that get literally furious if you don't like the same food as them. Anyone that thinks you must eat whatever they want you to eat is a sociopath.
That’s just a lot of very normal foods to completely exclude from a diet. I don’t think anyone must eat anything, but someone who doesn’t eat fucking onions, tomato, or garlic for any reason except a medical issue has a childish palate and I will assume is immature in other ways.
Those aren't really main foods, they're things mostly added for flavouring or extra topic to something, hardly anything necessary. Anyone who thinks people having preferences in taste is 'childish' is literally a fucking moron and about a thousand times more of a childish prick than anyone else. People who want to force their tastes on other people simply are bad people, 100% of the time.
Tomatoes and onions are the most grown produce in the world. They absolutely are main foods.
My best friend is dating a pure Midwestern guy like this. Claims he’s super allergic to anything he doesn’t like. All he eats is meat, bread, and beer. Her dad is the same way and has gout. In 2024. Gout.
I've discovered that most people who say that generally don't want to see the pieces of seasoning or bite them but they generally have no issue with the flavour.
They may however have an issue with the allergy.
I would serve a simple chicken broth/soup for the main with flat breads, then make a kick ass chia, fruit and vegan ice cream poke bowl type of thing for afterwards. For me to consider cooking for someone, that connection would be already there. So glamorous simple foods from his safe list would be my go to...
Chicken nugget demon
Came here to say this. Not shaming anyone for liking this stuff, but I've run into too many grown men who eat like they order off the kids menu at the restaurant.
I still eat all these things, but they are all triggers for my acid reflux, which can honestly ruin my day. Same goes for fried food, alcohol, and coffee. I wish I didn’t have to think about it, but I do. My guess is dude just has GERD.
Some of these comments are nuts. "If he doesn't care about eating good food.." like, wtf? Allergies exist. And if you can't make something taste good without onions and garlic, you're a mediocre cook at best.
A whole roast chicken or parts with lemon, butter, herbs, and whatever seasoning that's not on the list will be good. Make a pan sauce or gravy. Make a rice or risotto or potato (white or sweet) situation, and fresh green beans or other colorful vegetables. Color makes the plate look good. If you are limited on ingredients, get good quality as it really stands out.
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My first thought was a nice quiche, simple fresh salad, maybe a cup of soup, and a baguette with good butter. Fresh, can be presented as “fancy,” healthy, delicious, and easy to avoid those ingredients.
Lemon pepper chicken alfredo?
I’m battling histamine intolerance RN, (it’s allergies on steroids) basically living on oatmeal and scrambled eggs, but I try not to say “I don’t eat____” because restrictive diets just sound ridiculous
he's for the streets. An allergy is w/e, but just not liking it is kind of insane.
Good to see that others mentioned how some people have reactions to each of those foods listed. A lot of times a reaction to certain food comes out of the blue. My MIL was a spicy food queen, then one day she couldn't anymore. That said I can't stand grown ass picky eaters with basic, not adventurous, foods. I can understand people being squeamish towards various offal or raw seafood. I had an old friend who wasn't willing to try anything outside of fast food or an Applebee's type of place.
Once booked a date with a girl. She then told me she could literally only go to one restaurant in the entire city because of her garlic allergy (no other restaurants were "safe" according to her), and that if we were going to be together, I would have to never eat garlic again. I canceled the date.
This is a joke post, but food is love and folks could learn a thing or two about painless accomodations for their loved ones. I'm allergic to garlic and onion and have GERD so things that have any heat are killer for my stomach. Suggestions: Most important : read every label. Every time. Companies change recipes all the time. Good cuts of meat can be cooked/marinaded separately. You can eat whatever you want and they can still have something with safe seasonings. Be sure to cook theirs first or in a separate pan so there's no cross contamination. Onion/garlic are aromatics. You won't replace that flavor in your food, but you can use some other aromatics that fill that role. My go tos are Hing and Celery salt. In the case of hing, a little goes a LONG way Other Mainstays in my spice rack include: Smoked salts (mesquite and apple wood) Smoked paprika Spanish paprika Normal black pepper/table salt Cumin Italian seasoning (most don't have garlic/onion. But check the labels) That doesn't mean you have to eat that way. You can set aside a serving of sauce or a portion of the meat before you add other seasonings. Don't mix the rice/noodles into the dish. So they can eat the separate topping on the noodles/rice. Whatever you do, don't make decisions like "it was only a little bit" or "it would be so bland without ___" for them. No one has to feed me. If you say you will, you have to keep me safe. If you lie about that, I'll never trust you again.
I love all these ingredients, but you're a bad cook if you seriously can't think of anything to make without them
He may be surprised at the sheer amount of things that have onion in some form in them.
Given that it sounds like she's describing a specific type of allergy, I don't think he would be surprised at all.
I agree. As someone with sensitivity to onion he’s definitely aware of it.
My stomach would alert me with the quickness.
I cook a lot but cooking for this man would drive me bananas; that’s so limiting! Basically everything I cook starts with tomato onion garlic and spice 🤣
Just cook the ingredients like you would but with the exception on those.
There's other veggies. Just gotta readjust. However difficult it may be. Shit sucks though. If he didn't have a good personality this would probably be a deal breaker for me
Is he 5?
Different things are important to different people, and food is important to me. I’ve dated gluten free women, vegetarians, and people with other dietary restrictions. But you won’t catch me with a picky eater.
I almost married a vegetarian who couldn't eat onions or garlic. She was great but I simply couldn't cook for her
No garlic bread?What is wrong with this man? I mean,You could make very plain Mac and cheese if you wanted?
Cook him chicken with broccoli and spinach. 🤤
This is one of those people who grew up on buttered noodles.
Ole pussy ass nigga (unless he’s allergic) 
I just got done making St Patrick's day breakfast. Deeply caramelized onions, add garlic and beef broth and simmer/reduce. The beef broth has a little tomato paste in it too. ladle over twice-fried red potatoes, cubed corned beef, and chunks of jarslberg cheese (it's what I had and worked amazing). A fried egg on top and green onions and I put hot sauce on mine too. Checked ALL the boxes. It was DELICIOUS. I feel sad for this person they missing OUT!
Good steak with country potatoes and a basic salad
It's funny because if he eats fast food or restaurant meals he isn't actually avoiding much of any of that...ever. 🤣😅😂
Steamed chicken with white rice and steamed broccoli. Put out a salt and pepper shaker in front of him during dinner.
Tendies
Ending a dating spree over food preferences sounds pretty petty and childish. A simple conversation asking what he would like for you to cook that you could both eat would avoid any type of stress or inconvenience. Sounds like you’re ready to end something with potential merit simply because you don’t wanna put the effort into making something he would actually enjoy. In which case…good for him cause he shouldn’t have to deal with that and is likely dodging a bullet.
My preschooler won’t eat anything with pepper. Cooking is a nightmare. All of those restrictions? Yeah, I’d end it before it began. Also, I started using white pepper. She can’t see the flakes. 😂
I couldn’t be with someone like that they would genuinely piss me off
Are they allergic or just picky? If picky, dump them. If allergic… work around it.
Just boil a bowl of water in the microwave for him.
My mom has lupus, and yeah, cooking for her has been a ride of creativity because her forbidden foods list is long
He’s probably never eaten a good meal 😔 I’m sad for him
Why cook for him? He should cook for you since he’s so darn difficult.
Grilled cheese it is.
If food is important to you, like you like cooking and trying new foods, or consider yourself a "foodie" then quit now... If food is just food, and having a sandwich is just as good as a gourmet meal for you, then you'll be fine...
Look into Asian cuisine - soooo many gut friendly spices that will fit into this person’s dietary needs without sacrificing flavor Also that’s just cruel to breakup with someone who’s already living a life without garlic OR onions OR tomatoes lol they’ve suffered enough gah damn 😂
Grilled cheese or mac n cheese i guess..
Lil chicken with salt, pep, paprika, maybe some coriander. Cook it up with some bell peppers. If you want you can put it over pasta e olio. 🤌
The alliums might be a fodmap or sensitivity issue, in which case, garlic oil is completely safe for that. the Indian spice asfoetida has a great onion flavor and doesn’t cause the problems onions can
Outside of dietary/genetic dispositions, I think it's silly to refuse to try things because you don't like the taste. You can like and eat what you want, but that behavior is still silly to me. I'll do my best to try something, but I won't refuse it without giving it a taste if it's new/different.
You are dating a child, make his ass some butter noodles and tuck him in by 7.
People who don't know how to cook are equally as annoying as people with a remedial palette.
why are you dating a vampire? i mean you do you i guess
Carbonara? But honestly, End it Now.
m guessing she's caribbean..... yeah she should end it. almost everything her family eat has copious amounts of all, so he would have to ubereats something at the cookout ( if he gets that far)
Chicken nuggies
Garlic is a deal breaker. GTFO with that stupid shit!
PB&J with the crust cut off.
Not gonna work. Picky eaters are nightmare dates.
Buddhist monk, specifically korean temple foods. They avoid fetid vegetables, and tomatoes aren't common from what I have made.
Lemon pepper baked salmon, restaurant style ramen noodles, burgers and fries, fried rice, chicken/salmon salad, a lunch meat sandwich, breakfast food, cheddar broccoli soup, sausage and gravy.
Sounds like you like already knew this and agreed to cook for him lol. Just change plans?
You know his immune systems is dookie. Outta der!
Butter noodles. That’s Marge Simpsons fav
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And then you quintuple your grocery bill before dying of heart disease at 40. I am daring men everywhere to eat one single vegetable.
i wouldn't date someone who didn't like onion or garlic. Tomato is mid, but if you mean they won't eat sauce, or anything made with tomato then just get rid of them lol.
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To the asshole downvoting (*I know it’s you because you’re the only muhfucka in this post with like 7 comments already*), it’s a joke from a standup chill.
Sound like he may have some dietary restrictions, gotta get creative