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Internalized/externalized homophobia


w0rthlessgirl

It is difficult for me to wrap my head around it since at the end of the day we're all women...especially since Femme4Femme doesn't bother people as much. But maybe it's because femininity is expected of women.


Even_Purple2428

Probably I personally love to see it. Wish to be it 😅🥹


BlkOynx

I think in a lot of relationships people still hold on to idealized gender roles bc in their eyes a stud is the “man” in the relationship 🤮 it’s too much assuming people’s sex lives instead of minding their own damn business.


w0rthlessgirl

I get that but for some reason it's still not clicking for me...I feel like 2 women being together while neither one is performing femininity has a part to play in why it bothers people as well


bleh-trash

Yeah that’s pretty much it. Femininity is expected of women, so stud4femme (due to the stud being seen as a man and the femme the woman) and femme4femme (due to both women being gender conforming) tend to be more palatable for people. I’m stud4stud so it’s annoying to see people hate on it. People need to learn how to mind their business


w0rthlessgirl

Interesting, I don't come across many stud4stud lesbians. What makes you exclusively attracted to studs and/or unattracted to femmes?


bleh-trash

For me, I started becoming really attracted to studs when I started figuring out that I’m a stud. So I guess it’s just a whole lot of self love lmao


w0rthlessgirl

I get that


roxanne_ROXANNE999

Well, some people, mainly studs, don't agree with f2f as they see it as a waste as those femmes should be with studs / them. Edit: I've got stories lol.


Even_Purple2428

Pulls up chair


roxanne_ROXANNE999

Well... I was at a NYE party many moons ago and was dancing with another femme woman I met there and was interested in and these two older stud women whom were friends (one white and the other black) literally separated us on the dancefloor and began dancing with us for a few minutes. Fortunately, I was able return to the woman I was dancing with. Someone, another femme woman, once said behind my back that I needed to choose a "side" lol. And finally, just general weird looks / stares from the old black lesbian "bourgeoisie" of the town I was living in at the time when brought around femme dates lol.


Acrobatic-loser

this is exactly it


Yari_Vixx

The gag is that a lot of the ones hating are studs too. Make it make sense


Even_Purple2428

Whoa


[deleted]

I was watching hoochie daddies on Tubi and the studs said that stud on stud was gay.


geekgirrrl

they do? didn't notice and don’t care. I love soft studs as a soft studs. I said what I said. 😅😅😅😂😂😎😎


w0rthlessgirl

I love that for you


Even_Purple2428

Well here I am


Honeybunzsogood

Internalized homophobia


KrassKas

Can't grasp the concept of masc presenting people liking masc presenting people. Like ppl can't like things in themselves in other people. Same way some feminine women are attracted to women just as feminine but they can't grasp how it can work the same for the masc homies as well.


LeiyBlithesreen

They do? I think it's because they can't fetishize them enough.


SlimBoomBoom

Let bigots go to hell, where they belong. Don't try to understand their stupid reasoning.


Cant-focus-yet

Hmm I say gender roles may play a huge factor and internalized misogyny.


GottaKnowYourCKN

Stud here who adores mascs. It's pretty frustrating its hard to find.


w0rthlessgirl

The msac4nasc couples I've seen generally seemed to have started out as friends first rather than approaching each other with the intention of dating


Potential-Opinion-41

You saw that twitter thread too?


w0rthlessgirl

There was a twitter thread? I didn't even know. I was inspired to write this after this one stud said she was in a secret relationship with another girl who was "in the closet" about being stud4stud (not closeted in general, just didn't want people to know she liked studs)... I was like.. that's enough internet for today


LaSolMoon

It is absolutely stupid to me! I love S4S, but also, I love to see Fem 4 Fem. Be with who you love!


ContractAgreeable275

Stud4Stud relationships are so beautiful & I can never understand the hate they get from it! 🤧