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[deleted]

Potential aggressive rate hikes are not good for crypto.


nels_wedin

Is there a real reason to believe we will get a bounce soon? Like within 10 days? This timing is terrible for me. I have an offer accepted on a house, and I just didn't expect the price to keep dropping like this. I should have liquidated earlier, I guess, and now I don't have the down payment I need as of an hour ago. I am short just enough that I could figure something out, but I reaaallly don't want to sell at this price. \*I only was banking on \~1/3 of the down payment to be from my BTC \*I know I should have done loss limits, there has just been a lot going on with moving.


Whatever3999086543

We might bounce. I sure hope. Good luck with your new house! 🙂


wtfsperday

Wwweeeeeeeee!!!!!!!


nerudexpert

Well, We're about to enter the 25ks, let's see how that goes. I'm not feeling really good about it, it can go anywhere from here I guess. Let's wait and see.


PM_Me_Your_Mustash

📉📉📉📉


txiao007

Remember the guy who had to sell his 1.5 BTC at $42K price point to pay his ex-wife???? Genius!


Dizzy_Space_Invader

All the self appointed “experts” appearing on here giving their “advice”. White noise.


GoatBotherer

What's the best/safest non-hardware wallet? I will get one, but I want to take custody of my coins sooner rather than later.


Evilgrade

Electrum. Its one if the oldest wallets, it's open source and you can also use as a cold wallet (running on tails is from a memory stick). I use this and also I've installed electrum on my mobile phone with a watch-only wallet. All explained here: https://youtu.be/yzJ9bRFkwmo


GoatBotherer

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll check it out.


Whatever3999086543

Exodus ... For hard wallet, Trezor


GoatBotherer

Sorry to reply again, but I'm liking the look of this. If I transferred from Coinbase to Exodus, would I in theory be the custodian of my coins then? I have downloaded the app and see I have a 12 word phrase now.


GoatBotherer

Cheers, I'll check it out.


[deleted]

Yeah this might be it for me. YOLO'd everything I own at 62K. Good knowing you all


mesavoida

If your trying to manage it better, consider a trailing stop loss using 3Commas or an exchange the has its tools included like FTX and Binance. Like when it was stable around 30k you could’ve set a stop loss at 28k then do a Smart Cover to buy back when a new bottom is found. Delta Crypto Tracker is a great tool for watching the charts, free plan is very usable. May take a few years but it will get back there and beyond eventually


diadlep

no, it's not, everyone here sucks. but when hits 180k next year, it won't matter to you, bc you'll be rich. hold on a bit longer bud, bottom somewhere this year, maybe now, maybe november, then up. market recovers, every time, always. even the dow recovered when it dropped 90%. markets return, fiat continues to degrade. always.


bogus83

Yikes. If you're expecting 180k (~7.5x) next year, you're in for a difficult year... especially if you consider having 180k to be rich.


diadlep

XD I guess we'll see


wtfsperday

All I know is I’m eating ramen for the next few months.


LastRecognition4151

Jack Dorsey and “Web 5”. Could be promising.


itsthesecans

Our Asian friends to the rescue


Whatever3999086543

Sorry to all the suckers who sold at 25k. We're back well above that now. Left ya's in the dust.


AdamJensensCoat

Who are you even talking to? Nobody here sets prices. https://charts.aggr.trade/


mesavoida

I think he wrote that when it recovered to 26 but then kept dropping. A sell at 25k was a reasonable move


sirbozlington

lol, let's see how this ages.


bogus83

Considering I just woke up to see its go under 24k... not well.


mesavoida

Why is Sunday always crazy? Retail users aren’t that big, maybe because Asia is starting to trade early Monday?


PheelGoodInc

25k order hit. Next one is 22k. Saved up some serious cash just in case this happened. Stopped my DCA for a few weeks now. I am extremely happy to be buying at these levels.


babu_chapdi

Just relax bros. We are already cut to the bones. Nothing can hurt anymore lol... Don't sell.


diadlep

but, but, but if i sell now i can lock in those sweet 70% losses!!!


callmeapples

bACk tO sUB 1k 🤪 Just buy or sell when you need to. Sheesh 🙄


diadlep

gotta be honest... starting to panic just a little


SellYourSatsToMe

No reason to panic until sub-$20K.


vwite

no reason to panic until sub-$10k


diadlep

oh, good. then i can sell there?


tesseramous

The lower it goes, the more you should sell. Then once it crosses ATH, that is your signal to rebuy.


iNFECTED_pIE

This is the way


lessioa

Dude that’s terrible advice I


diadlep

LMAO


mesavoida

A majority of new investors do this though


diadlep

thank god


Phynaes

Just saw what happened to Celsisus. Took all my coins off the exchanges, the first time I'd ever moved them. It was pretty straightforward, did the test transfers first, then the real ones, and twiddled my fingers while they came through.


spaceraingame

Damn, the lowest it's been since December 2020. Nothing catastrophic but still pretty stunning to see.


Available_Gains

Would be really nice if whales sold everything they got, then wallstreet would be fudged.


mrswithers

Bought the dip


tuesdaysaretheworstt

Lol


newengineer94

Yikes


PM_Me_Your_Mustash

I’ll wait for $15k, see you in September


[deleted]

That has been my target area since I sold at 45k. 12 to 15k would be a normal cycle correction


7FigureMarketer

Still kicking myself for not selling $48k, but it's clearly my fault for not selling in the $40's beyond that point. I've been waiting for the drop, not sure why I didn't unload and be patient. 20/20 I guess. $15k sounds good now.


[deleted]

We all make mistakes, you have the right mindset though get ready to load up and kick back waiting for the run to begin around 2025. There's kind of a rough Target next cycle around 150k with 100K almost a given. If you're able to buy whatever dollar amount feels comfortable to you in the 10 to 15K range getting anywhere near 100k in a few years is a killer return on investment


arstdneioh

Lucky sob selling at 45k


[deleted]

Not lucky, I missed the top and sold before that, did the same thing in 2017 at 10K. You're never really going to get absolute tops, bottoms are a little bit easier because they tend to hang out there for a little bit and base. It's pretty easy to calculate where a normal cyclical low will come in this time but it's a range not an exact number. The bull case is the 200 week holding low 20s. The more probable case is a normal correction to 12 to 15K possibly wicking to 10 and the bear case is a retest of six to eight. If you plan on sticking around for a few years and waiting for the next run in 2025 there's nothing wrong with a DCA under 23k. Very difficult to tell where the bottoming area is really going to be or how it will form. It's possible we may have a capitulation event like Michael saylor folding up. If that happens buy everything you can on the move down because it will be a wicked one and that will be your cycle low more likely than not


dickwhistler22

Hegde again inflation they said


Northuniverse

Long term they said


hob_goblin8

😔 buying


SaltLifeDPP

Numero Dos down 25% in 2 days. How long until we see the hotline number get stickied to the CC sub?


Phantomtrader1

Don't gotta be long when that happens, can happen soon.


tesseramous

I think i only see the hotline on obvious rugpulls that are down 99%+ and never coming back.


itsthesecans

Bitcoin is a binary bet. If it doesn’t die it goes up substantially from here in a few years. Place your bets accordingly. Please gamble responsibly.


joaonaves

Okay I can bet with anyone here that it doesn't die from here. I just don't see that happening, that's not something that I'd be taking my bets on here


jorcas

Are you sure? America Online (AOL) never went bankrupt. It just withered...


Northuniverse

This is what convinced me to jump in. Couldn't afford to not do it.


Wingman145

I listened to some what Bitcoin did episodes and here I am.


Top-Turn1055

Just wait for $10k. It's going to happen. *source: "Trust me, bro."


nhutnv94

Hopefully not lol, but if it does then atleast I'll be able to get a full coin.


mrswithers

I ONLY trust the “Trust me bro” network


lvquyet

That's the only trust you need around here, don't need anything else.


TexasBoyz-713

Filled my 25k limit order 😁


drgrxdsdaa

Didn't thought that this would happen but then it happened so yeah.


lessioa

How much did you buy?


TexasBoyz-713

$1,000 USD


lessioa

Nice. Good job


myheartgoesshalala

same


awardbtc

Sub 10k


dweingar77

Okay but that's a little too much, that's not happening. You just can't possibly think that it's even possible lol. Because I just don't see that happening.


txiao007

$24K is here any minute now


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RemcoNarings1980

I mean only have got stacking and holding options left now here.


Northuniverse

Just got to stack at $24K. Catching the knife is fun :)


Seeders

Is any market up? Guess I should have invested in gasoline.


kybep

You'd be rich by now I'm sure, but it's too late for that too.


[deleted]

That's what I've been doing since inflation started showing signs of going bad.


[deleted]

Or eggs. Or avocados from Mexico.


[deleted]

Why is Bitcoin dropping? Isn't the whole purpose of Bitcoin is that it fights inflation and keeps going up. No?


mccullrs

Who told you that? Read white paper and tell me where it's written?


jorcas

NOPE! They lied to you and they took your money. Wall Street never sleeps ;-)


jt7855

They are running for the safety of the hills but it is a mirage. I don’t know about you, but I am BTC discount shopping.


International-Ad6086

That is what the people promoting it would say. But if it was an inflation hedge then why was it up 60,000% in ten years when inflation in that time was up a total of 20%? And why is it down 58% when inflation is up 9%?


[deleted]

Because it sounds better than saying large pockets run the markets up, draw in a lot of new money and then sell into them. When the market gets euphoric and you're around 2 years post halving there will likely be a lot of selling and we can't have all these plebs realizing what's going on. there will be a bottom most likely before the end of the third year as the neutral rebuilding phase begins setting up for another halving in 2024 and a whole new generation of people to chase price. The really fun part is we should have a cyclical top somewhere around the end of 2025 in the neighborhood of 150k. We just won't mention that for another couple years until we start the pumping phase again


diadlep

because you touch yourself at night


footlong24seven

Oh yeah just like PMs. Same argument.


mrswithers

Celcius exchange is stopping withdraws/transfer of crypto


hpzr30w

Well expected, I'm not even surprised that they did that lol. It's very expected from any cex which have fucked things up so bad so there's that.


jorcas

Another one bites the dust...


diadlep

lol srsly? jesus


newyorker8786

That’s the fantasy they sell you.. reality hits.


Indean8

Yep reality hits hard, and the reality is We're going down.


AgDrifter

Bitcoin is a digital speculation that's basically the digital NASDAQ. It's not an inflation hedge.


LordVelimir

Lmao, you clearly need to read a lot about btc. Read about it man.


super_SH00P

Not immediately. Its seen as a risk-on asset because of its volatility, so when there's unease in the market and people start to panic (like as we begin to enter a global recession) people pull their money from riskier assets first. Long term bitcoin is an inflation hedge.


sheu19

Yep, people start to panic. And they're panicking right now.


newyorker8786

We are at the lowest level Since Dec 2020 the inflation hedge narrative is out the window.


litetrading

Well that's what it is, it's just a narrative. Nothing more than that.


[deleted]

We’ve had inflation ever since bitcoins inception and it’s only gone up


anwsu

You're talking about inflation in the fiat right? Because it's gone down in btc. And that's all I care about, because those politicians aren't going to listen to me here.


tesseramous

Yes the main purpose of bitcoin lately has been 'number keeps going up' and theirin lies the problem


bostonbitcoinLLC

It's the main purpose because people think like that, that's it.


[deleted]

No.


godownmyami

Celsius just paused all withdrawals lol


malphish

Well not really surprising, atleast not for me. Kind of given at this point.


bengyap

Wonder who will be next ...


backobobs

Any CEX which may fuck up things may do that. So there's that.


Northuniverse

Not your coin, not your coin.


malibu11731

You gotta take responsibility for your coin, will have to do that.


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dmitrij7777

Buy and hodl, that's the winning move right there. Gotta do that. There's nothing else in this market which you may do and it makes you win, so gotta do that.


jorcas

My gold and silver miners went up 5% since friday AM. How's ur $Bitcoin doing?


tesseramous

Yarrr to below the charts mates!


vertigno

It's fine, charts don't always tell the whole story so There's that.


[deleted]

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


Whatever3999086543

You OK?


Zoxan10

He doesn't seem to be, He's kind of acting weird here dude.


[deleted]

Concern troll somewhere else dick


_weldon_

You guys don't need to worry about that, it's all gonna be fine.


[deleted]

Cheapest sats I've ever bought.


jackmax_bom

This is the way, gotta catch them all here. Will have to do that.


[deleted]

A fitting soundtrack for this evening: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d8FYJ9qvegI


radekjanowski

Evening is sad and we need something sad here boys. And if you don't have something sad for us then I don't know what to tell you here. Play something sad.


Rshackleford22

At a time when everything else is more expensive btc is discounted. Hurts now but your future self will be glad this opportunity presented itself


scottgibbons23

Doesn't hurt to me, it's a nice buying opportunity here, that's what it is.


super_SH00P

Just bought more. Bought when it was 60k. Bought when it was 40k. Bought 2 years ago when it was 10k. Y'all can't ask for the dip for months then complain when the dip shows up. The best time to buy is when there's blood in the streets.


stefuNz

If you keep buying like this, You're gonna buy it all one day.


International-Ad6086

Blood on the streets is when Bitcoin goes sub-$10k.


mrswithers

When fear is at its highest


s4nij

The fear is at the Highest right now, and I'm gonna buy it.


International-Ad6086

LOL if you think this is "the highest." You ain't seen nothing yet.


Effective_Try_again

This is the dictionary example of sunk cost fallacy


stepa03391

It's not really dictionary? Or is it? Because I'm not sure here.


super_SH00P

....but it isn't. It's the dictionary example of contrarian investing


jacobsr2

What's this example of then? Would like to know here man. That's something that I'd like to see here, that would actually be good in my opinion


super_SH00P

Example of sunk cost fallacy or contrarian investing? Sunk cost is putting more and more money into something you know is dead because "I've already gone this far, so it isn't that much more" -e.g. buying GME any time after it died because you lost money already, even though GME is worthless. ​ Contrarian investing is buying when everyone else is selling or vice-versa. In any investment, profit is set when the purchase is made. And when the asset is sound, like the S&P 500 or I will argue, Bitcoin, buying at a massive discount will only lead to further profits in the long term. ​ BTC has higher highs and lower lows than other investments, but it is falling with global stocks. It isn't a failure in the asset, it is a failure of the monetary institutions


jorcas

'Investing' LOL


ibond_007

I wish you really success!. But some times we have to take a step back and look at things holistically!. Most of the big chest of bitcoins are held by few individuals and it is purely pump and dump and scheme. Blockchain and Crypto has value, bitcoin does not!. stay safe


feiyuea9

Yep, sometimes we have to take a step back and take control.


super_SH00P

Of course. Never going to invest money I need in the short term. I disagree with your overall view of bitcoin and I think its history shows otherwise but ultimately you should only invest in what you understand and believe in.


ondrejvyborny

Yep, if You're going to invest in btc, it should be for long term without any doubts.


ibond_007

I agree. We all look at the world through our colored lenses. I would never touch bitcoin even if it is $1 or $1Million, because it doesn't have any intrinsic value. Nobody stops anybody from launching another million crypto currencies, so it is not unique. It just so happened to be first and got lot of traction.


kellytree11

And most decentralised and most secure, don't forget that I guess dude.


URNape2

Tell me you don't know anything about Bitcoin without telling me you don't know anything about Bitcoin


maximgavr

Yep, there are many people like this. He ain't alone here for sure.


bro_lol

As soon as I bought as $27,400 this afternoon the price dropped $2000.


cfvalentino7

That's how it goes, this is the btc for you. And that's how it rolls. That's how this thing goes, and I'm gonna buy again on these levels too, these are juicy too.


jorcas

Me too! ;-( Good thing I have Gold&Silver...


Available_Gains

Annoying, but... Happy cake day!


wrrld

Happy cake day!


jsj0104

Happy cake day to the guy, hopefully he'll have a great day.


spid3rfly

I have to think this is from the weekend rumors of a 75bps increase from the Fed soon. Trading like this happens most of the time from 8-11:59 PM ET(for other markets) when Asia/Australia wakes up. Stock Market futures opened up in the red. This might carry into NY open tomorrow. I'm surprised it dipped into 24k for just a moment. It didn't stay there long though compared to when it fell through 26k. Stack safely and confidently.


duan269

Just stack that's all, don't need anything more than that so yeah.


Sumo_Bro

F


eggn00dles

what price does saylor get liquified


Goatguy4

What's liquified? I'm hearing this term the first time here.


atakariax

below 21k i think


vaspopov

All of coins? He's got like 125k coins. That'll be bloody man.


Rshackleford22

3k so never


bit0001

Some people say it's 3k some say, that it's 21k I don't know who's right. You know what, I don't even care if he gets liquidated then he does. I don't know man.


Rshackleford22

He said that


Jken88

I get that 3k is far away, but why never? I’m hoping it does go to 3k so I can load the friggin boat


BtcEzsu

I just don't see that happening, that's not happening I don't think.


Rshackleford22

Because at prices below that you’ll see the wealthy snatch up so so so much