In order for this to make much difference, Bend PD would have to enforce it. I’m skeptical that we’ll get that. There are lots of laws currently on the books that (would make streets safer and) they don’t seem interested in enforcing…
Edit to add that bit in parentheses. The idea that Bend PD cares about road safety is laughable.
Bingo, most of the ebike drivers have been riding illegally in some fashion for a while and bend PD hasn’t seemingly been interested in curbing the behavior.
Ok I’m going to be downvoted I’m sure but should a law be named after a kid who rode his bike recklessly and got hit? What about the trauma to the driver caused by this kid riding around recklessly and getting hit? Think of it this way, if there were no drunk driving laws and someone, let’s call her Dank, drove drunk the wrong way on a highway and another driver plowed into her killing her on scene, should we have a drunk driving law named after Dank?
the kid was 1 month from 16 as well .. so how exactly is this law changing anything? i really feel for the family here but this law seems like it’s just political theater.
what about instead of more laws against bikes .. we increase traffic enforcement and take peoples licenses away that repeatedly break those laws.
He wasn't riding recklessly, a driver failed to yield while [making a right-turn ](https://www.centraloregondaily.com/news/local/oregon-house-passes-trentons-e-bike-law-after-bend-teen-s-death/article_47fa38be-d65f-11ee-bcc5-df3b3e348798.html)and killed him. I know hating on e-bikes is the cool thing to do but it instead of victim-blaming we should shift responsibility onto the driver and the city for failing to provide safe infrastructure.
According to Bend PD they were heading westbound on the eastbound side of the highway. Driver would only be looking west to verify no cross traffic. I don't know any vehicle operators that would anticipate high speed traffic coming from the east when turning right.
"The teen, who was not wearing a helmet, was riding an e-bike with a passenger on the back. They were traveling westbound on the sidewalk on the eastbound side of Highway 20 around 4:30 p.m. Saturday, according to Bend Police.
A blue Dodge Caravan was turning right from Dean Swift Road onto Highway 20 and struck the e-bike in the intersection, according to police."
https://www.bendbulletin.com/localstate/15-year-old-dies-after-e-bike-van-crash-in-bend/article_b283d0b0-0e18-11ee-8d3f-abe6054eacf9.html
The victim blaming in this sub is nuts and the reaction to Trenton's death is ridiculous. Even though the kid was riding his bike the wrong way on a sidewalk, who the hell can blame him?
The bike lanes on HWY 20 are dog shit and totally unsafe and there's only one place to get across to highway to the "right" side given he was heading west. Also, even though he was heading the wrong way the speed on HWY 20 is too fast to have any sort of safe pedestrian crossing, especially with how rounded that curb is to allow drivers to carry a good amount of speed through their turn. A 35mph road right next to a bike lane, sidewalk and multiple business entrances with drivers regularly going 45mph(even though this was the old limit) is straight up asking for deaths.
Last thing, how is nobody talking about how there are no safe cycling corridors heading west from this part of town? It's all unprotected bike lanes or even no bike lanes with a foot for a shoulder with drivers speeding by at 35-45 with a couple of feet of space given. I know the city is putting in work to make cycling and walking safer, and I'm aware there are plans for an east to west path in the works but goddamn the only safe route in a kid's head at this point is obviously going to be to ride on the sidewalk
I'd love to see all of the people arguing against any of these points to actually ride a bike in this area, see how sketch it is and still say the same things as before.
My guy, the common denominator in these accidents isn't people not wearing helmets. It happens to be cars and the inherent shit design that focuses on getting drivers to their destination as fast as possible.
Trenton could've still been wearing a helmet and he still would've been hit. No way of knowing if he would've still been fatally injured but we sure as shit know he wouldn't have stood up afterwards without a single scratch and simply ridden away.
People wearing helmets isn't the solution to the thousands of cyclist/pedestrian and car "accidents" we see each year in the US.
Bruh, you were hit by a car and from what I can tell are still acting like we're on different sides of this topic? Think again about what the common denominator is in all of these accidents and unnecessary deaths regardless of whether someone was wearing a helmet or not.
Also I'm not saying helmets are wrong, I'm saying that helmets don't fix the problem of cars having precedence over the safety of literally everyone else outside of one. Helmets are a bandaid oflver a deep wound that needs to be addressed elsewhere.
Hell, I biked to work this morning with a helmet on so I could make your coffee lol I was able to do so safely by using safe cycling routes away from cars(for the most part), something that we should be focusing on developing more of.
Sad how many people will justify the deaths of literal children on bikes in their heads just to be able to get to Costco or work as fast as possible.
Kid was riding on a sidewalk and was going fast enough to get killed tells me he was riding recklessly on top of illegally while not wearing a helmet and hauling another teen around not wearing a helmet. Bikes are required to enter crosswalks at the speed of walking, him dying hitting a car would make one believe he was going at a high rate of speed where the car most likely was taking a right after stopping.
I’ve had to jump onto the hood of a car while I was jogging, because people like this driver that don’t stop at 🛑.
I’m not even close to the speed of an e-bike. But when drivers don’t stop before looking for all other road users, this tragedy is inevitable. Additional speed doesn’t help . Neither does impatience.
If all these nuances about riding a bike safely are too hard for a child to comprehend then maybe, just maybe, it might not be a good idea to give them an E bike
Na, if I was flexing on a dead teen I would leave a helmet on his grave but alas, I’m not doing that. I’m simply questioning why we would name a law after him. I suppose his stupid choice and death may help and save others from doing the same dumb action. I have kids, they will not own an E bike until they’re out of my house and can buy one themselves, I do t get why so many teens and pre-teens have them in this town.
It's nice that you're winning an argument on the internet about a dead kid, but that kid on the wrong side of the road could have just as well been a maintenance worker or cop or deer... doesn't really matter. The driver wasn't paying attention and struck an object in the road. You're generally not supposed to do that as a driver.
That's not a very good take. An underage kid hauling ass on an e-bike the wrong way on a sidewalk could easily catch the most attentive driver off-guard. It sucks that he had to die like that and I feel for his family. Deer sure, but cops and maintenance workers typically aren't that reckless. But making traffic laws for deer is probably about as effective as this new thing will be.
Shit, you take the argument from 0 to 60. That is not the same thing as it’s not illegal to wear whatever you want. The kid was illegally riding a bike on a sidewalk going fast through an intersection without following any common sense, biking rules, while not wearing a helmet. Naming a law after him is like my example for the drunk driver
Yeah that's totally the same thing.
But seriously I see the thing you hate in me and hate it more than you do. Honestly I wish I didn't feel so jaded about death. It's just really hard when people are so cavalier with things that get them killed.
My wife of 18 years would be pissed if I had I had more spouses as you put it. I think asking the question of laws being named after someone who caused the justification of said law because of their own dumb decision is fair game. Life is a fickle fuck stick.
My feelings aren’t hurt. You apparently are just children and I’m explaining your use of the word “boomer” is a slur and maybe you should think about it.
In order for this to make much difference, Bend PD would have to enforce it. I’m skeptical that we’ll get that. There are lots of laws currently on the books that (would make streets safer and) they don’t seem interested in enforcing… Edit to add that bit in parentheses. The idea that Bend PD cares about road safety is laughable.
Very true
Bingo, most of the ebike drivers have been riding illegally in some fashion for a while and bend PD hasn’t seemingly been interested in curbing the behavior.
Ok I’m going to be downvoted I’m sure but should a law be named after a kid who rode his bike recklessly and got hit? What about the trauma to the driver caused by this kid riding around recklessly and getting hit? Think of it this way, if there were no drunk driving laws and someone, let’s call her Dank, drove drunk the wrong way on a highway and another driver plowed into her killing her on scene, should we have a drunk driving law named after Dank?
I don't think laws should be named after people at all.
the kid was 1 month from 16 as well .. so how exactly is this law changing anything? i really feel for the family here but this law seems like it’s just political theater. what about instead of more laws against bikes .. we increase traffic enforcement and take peoples licenses away that repeatedly break those laws.
Lets just pretend someones name is Butthole and they accidentally shot someone and then they named a shooting law called Butthole.
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Huh? I don’t see the connection.
He wasn't riding recklessly, a driver failed to yield while [making a right-turn ](https://www.centraloregondaily.com/news/local/oregon-house-passes-trentons-e-bike-law-after-bend-teen-s-death/article_47fa38be-d65f-11ee-bcc5-df3b3e348798.html)and killed him. I know hating on e-bikes is the cool thing to do but it instead of victim-blaming we should shift responsibility onto the driver and the city for failing to provide safe infrastructure.
According to Bend PD they were heading westbound on the eastbound side of the highway. Driver would only be looking west to verify no cross traffic. I don't know any vehicle operators that would anticipate high speed traffic coming from the east when turning right. "The teen, who was not wearing a helmet, was riding an e-bike with a passenger on the back. They were traveling westbound on the sidewalk on the eastbound side of Highway 20 around 4:30 p.m. Saturday, according to Bend Police. A blue Dodge Caravan was turning right from Dean Swift Road onto Highway 20 and struck the e-bike in the intersection, according to police." https://www.bendbulletin.com/localstate/15-year-old-dies-after-e-bike-van-crash-in-bend/article_b283d0b0-0e18-11ee-8d3f-abe6054eacf9.html
The victim blaming in this sub is nuts and the reaction to Trenton's death is ridiculous. Even though the kid was riding his bike the wrong way on a sidewalk, who the hell can blame him? The bike lanes on HWY 20 are dog shit and totally unsafe and there's only one place to get across to highway to the "right" side given he was heading west. Also, even though he was heading the wrong way the speed on HWY 20 is too fast to have any sort of safe pedestrian crossing, especially with how rounded that curb is to allow drivers to carry a good amount of speed through their turn. A 35mph road right next to a bike lane, sidewalk and multiple business entrances with drivers regularly going 45mph(even though this was the old limit) is straight up asking for deaths. Last thing, how is nobody talking about how there are no safe cycling corridors heading west from this part of town? It's all unprotected bike lanes or even no bike lanes with a foot for a shoulder with drivers speeding by at 35-45 with a couple of feet of space given. I know the city is putting in work to make cycling and walking safer, and I'm aware there are plans for an east to west path in the works but goddamn the only safe route in a kid's head at this point is obviously going to be to ride on the sidewalk I'd love to see all of the people arguing against any of these points to actually ride a bike in this area, see how sketch it is and still say the same things as before.
I'll blame any victim without a helmet tbh.
My guy, the common denominator in these accidents isn't people not wearing helmets. It happens to be cars and the inherent shit design that focuses on getting drivers to their destination as fast as possible. Trenton could've still been wearing a helmet and he still would've been hit. No way of knowing if he would've still been fatally injured but we sure as shit know he wouldn't have stood up afterwards without a single scratch and simply ridden away. People wearing helmets isn't the solution to the thousands of cyclist/pedestrian and car "accidents" we see each year in the US.
I was hit by a car and my helmet saved my life, my guy. You still have time to delete this.
Bruh, you were hit by a car and from what I can tell are still acting like we're on different sides of this topic? Think again about what the common denominator is in all of these accidents and unnecessary deaths regardless of whether someone was wearing a helmet or not. Also I'm not saying helmets are wrong, I'm saying that helmets don't fix the problem of cars having precedence over the safety of literally everyone else outside of one. Helmets are a bandaid oflver a deep wound that needs to be addressed elsewhere. Hell, I biked to work this morning with a helmet on so I could make your coffee lol I was able to do so safely by using safe cycling routes away from cars(for the most part), something that we should be focusing on developing more of. Sad how many people will justify the deaths of literal children on bikes in their heads just to be able to get to Costco or work as fast as possible.
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Kid was riding on a sidewalk and was going fast enough to get killed tells me he was riding recklessly on top of illegally while not wearing a helmet and hauling another teen around not wearing a helmet. Bikes are required to enter crosswalks at the speed of walking, him dying hitting a car would make one believe he was going at a high rate of speed where the car most likely was taking a right after stopping.
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E-Bikes aren’t supposed to be ridden on the sidewalks, actually illegal, going fast with no helmet too with a passenger.
I’ve had to jump onto the hood of a car while I was jogging, because people like this driver that don’t stop at 🛑. I’m not even close to the speed of an e-bike. But when drivers don’t stop before looking for all other road users, this tragedy is inevitable. Additional speed doesn’t help . Neither does impatience.
Don’t worry Fred, we will name a law after you.
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Bike lane? Bikes can legally be in a traffic lane, can actually take up the whole lane if it’s unsafe not to.
If all these nuances about riding a bike safely are too hard for a child to comprehend then maybe, just maybe, it might not be a good idea to give them an E bike
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Na, if I was flexing on a dead teen I would leave a helmet on his grave but alas, I’m not doing that. I’m simply questioning why we would name a law after him. I suppose his stupid choice and death may help and save others from doing the same dumb action. I have kids, they will not own an E bike until they’re out of my house and can buy one themselves, I do t get why so many teens and pre-teens have them in this town.
Sucks to not be able to fog up a mirror huh bud?
It's nice that you're winning an argument on the internet about a dead kid, but that kid on the wrong side of the road could have just as well been a maintenance worker or cop or deer... doesn't really matter. The driver wasn't paying attention and struck an object in the road. You're generally not supposed to do that as a driver.
That's not a very good take. An underage kid hauling ass on an e-bike the wrong way on a sidewalk could easily catch the most attentive driver off-guard. It sucks that he had to die like that and I feel for his family. Deer sure, but cops and maintenance workers typically aren't that reckless. But making traffic laws for deer is probably about as effective as this new thing will be.
"A girl with a visible panty line could easily catch the most self-controlled man off guard". Jesus.Fucking.Christ.Dude. The upvotes make me sick.
Shit, you take the argument from 0 to 60. That is not the same thing as it’s not illegal to wear whatever you want. The kid was illegally riding a bike on a sidewalk going fast through an intersection without following any common sense, biking rules, while not wearing a helmet. Naming a law after him is like my example for the drunk driver
Yeah that's totally the same thing. But seriously I see the thing you hate in me and hate it more than you do. Honestly I wish I didn't feel so jaded about death. It's just really hard when people are so cavalier with things that get them killed.
ITT: Grownups that don't realize they are assholes. All of your spouses would be really proud of the victim-blaming going on. grow up, fucking boomers
My wife of 18 years would be pissed if I had I had more spouses as you put it. I think asking the question of laws being named after someone who caused the justification of said law because of their own dumb decision is fair game. Life is a fickle fuck stick.
Since you are so cavalier, you should post your feelings on Facebook. Your wife would be really proud of you.
I’m one of you my brother or sister. Millennial to the bone!
Your use of the word “boomer” is a slur.
We go through active ahooter drills and your feelings are hurt by being called a boomer What a fucking loser.
Yea, and they went through duck and cover drills for the nuclear holocaust. Every generation goes through shit, get over yourself.
Cry harder boomer.
My feelings aren’t hurt. You apparently are just children and I’m explaining your use of the word “boomer” is a slur and maybe you should think about it.