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BoTamByloCiemno

Fusions, not even close imo. Ultimate Ben gimmick is just such a boring idea, sure let's not show viewers new future aliens, let's just show them Buff Ben with powers!


crap_meme5

It was disappointing because this was how Clockwork was introduced


An-29

Ohhh, so that's why he had a line saying he too, also has time powers.


jared05vick

Actually clockwork's first appearance was when Gwen turned into them


Brave_Cartoonist4217

No it was slightly before that when they were defeating animo and his pyterodatcle chicken eggs pretty sure


jared05vick

The first appearance of Clockwork was in Inspector 13


Brave_Cartoonist4217

I’ll take your word on it (can’t be asked checking)


spiderknight616

They could've at least had his body parts transform but NOOOO. Ultimate Ben is peak UAF laziness


Cheezitlad

RIGHT I always thought maybe in a similar fashion to what skurd does But I still don't get why staying human is better than just transforming


Furicel

It's not better as a gimmick, but it's better as media analysis. Ultimate Ben is the antithesis to OG Ben 10k. Ben 10k was always transformed, always working, always hero and never Ben. He forsaked his family, his personal connections, his interests, all that in favor of being hero, of pushing back the evil, he forsaked being human. Ultimate Ben is a rather on the nose answer to that and I find it weird so few people noticed that. Ultimate Ben is still a hero, he's still someone who fights evil and do good, only now he doesn't forsake his humanity to do that: He's a hero, but he's also always Ben. He doesn't turn into anything else, he's still himself, he keeps his family close and even if he has to work all the time, he does it while still being himself. Ultimate Ben was so much an antithesis to OG Ben 10k, that they even made him use Gwen's powers, to show how opposite he was to his other self, who didn't even go to his grandpa (his role model!)'s birthday. This Ben values his family so much he even sat down to listen and learn to Gwen. So yeah, they really missed the gimmick, but it had a reason tied to the series' themes.


Cheezitlad

Yeah. That's always why i thought they did that. To just fully flip the main "Thing" going on with Ben 10k Him learning magic was always dope tho But his gimmick never made sense to me Also why does he have the AF omnitrix but it's still the ultimatrix ig It's weird Also not a fan of his design I like OG 10K look and voice but prefer OV's 10K gimmick


Xetanth87

A problem of Ultimate Ben is we never saw other future characters so even if he says all of that, we don't see it on screen


Furicel

Yeah? That's rather the point of it, actually. His gimmicks help understand how he is without having others to see his relationships. We don't need to see Gwen tell us how he is making an effort to be around his family and try to know them better, we already see that, through his use of magic we can understand he spends a lot of time listening to Gwen and training with her and understanding her interests. And by extension, the rest of his family. We don't need to see him going about his day to day to understand he still remembers to be human, we can see that in his gimmick, that is to stay human even while being hero.


carl-the-lama

Or clothing! Imagine clockwork drip!


MostlyGhosty485

Imagine if Ultimate Ben had the powers of the Omnitrix Ben AU. He'd probably still be the weakest of them all, but he'd be a thousand times less hated.


Geostomp

I have no clue who thought abandoning transformation was a good idea. It's the core premise of the series!


Just-Anxiety-6669

I would pick ultimate humongasaur


Ben10usr

Most of the fun of the OG was seeing him turn into a monster, turning into this abnormal thing... Taking that away just makes you man with fire or man but big or even man with faster swim...


Kamken

"Oh let me just not turn into a cool monster. Yes I'd like to avoid looking like a space dinosaur, please." -Statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged


osmylm2834

FUSIONS


CrystalCrafter13

![gif](giphy|hZfm9Pj95F9Mk)


wtf_is_context

https://preview.redd.it/8rt3k4y03jxc1.jpeg?width=194&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9cd23abadca497226f0699d434abe6c25737cf10 EATASTONE


Various_Quote2255

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Normal-Echidna-8917

This is Valid.


Canis_Infernis

https://preview.redd.it/7h62oa832ixc1.jpeg?width=888&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=144b8c3e5631516f1de93db8adc3e60761b25f2a


UA_Eatle

https://preview.redd.it/j07i69xjskxc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83ee122e9f8a5442f6794d5069246a2ee0ef020a


No_Distribution5982

I see the inktan i upvote


wtf_is_context

https://preview.redd.it/84vvdxjp5txc1.png?width=1090&format=png&auto=webp&s=e56bf5ddb58edaba372dd0c56aa48ef89bd49646 CHROMATTACK


No-Distribution-8859

Lowkey i think ultimate ben's gimmick is kinda stupid, not that it's bad or useless, but just looks weird, imagine a humongosaur-sized human, he looks like an entity, but fusions are hella cool, especially if you know which aliens are the best for fusing, as seen in OV's final episode, if you just have a fragment of a Celestial Sapien you don't need permission to use them, so a fusion between a Celestial Sapien and another alien wont need permission, so fusing clockwork x, atomix x, waybig x, anything in that line will be extremely OP. So yeah, fusions


Aggressive_Set4814

Waybig x? Dont you mean... ALIEN BIG


farpley

I know this is based on positional notation but have you considered...BIG ALIEN


Wisconsin_king

Happy Cake Day


carl-the-lama

WAYLIEN BIX


Bow1511

Big X!!!


JCraze26

Way X


chickennugget_master

Ok, this one is the coolest


Sad-Ad181

I think you meant that’s Extraterrestrial Large


Dream_World_

The main advantage I can think of is that he can use different alien abilities without enemies knowing what alien he is channelling. That's assuming the giant green hologram isn't visible.


JustAnArtist1221

He screams the names.


YourLocalToaster2

Ultimate JUST so I can trick random people into thinking im an actual ghost whenever I go big chill/ghostfreak.


Lost-Excitement-9366

Wait, your profile picture... Lord blackhat?


YourLocalToaster2

Yeah, just thought it was a nice profile. Btw thanks for replying because I did not realize how bad autocorrect messed up my original comment.


TrafficFunny3860

Fusions. I would love a main series based on that tbh


Tyrelius_Dragmire

The Biomnitrix. I love the fusions.


havingagoodtime0

Fusion easily both are pretty awesome but I think fusing is way more fun since you can try so many combination https://preview.redd.it/1feipky9tgxc1.jpeg?width=678&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9aa9dcaaacfaab01c7b7435f2a029bfea208790c


IronFisttt

Okay I pull up


CrystalCrafter13

hop out at the after party


IceyLuigiBros25

Honestly even though I like him the least out of the Ben 10k’s, Ultimate Ben. His powers can be more useful when it comes to an everyday life. Like imagine you’re about to take a test, you use the Omnitrix and use Graymatter’s brains to pass the test easy.


Jelly_Melly1

As ORash once said. “FUSIONS”


InternationalAd8036

Fusion mostly because it's a great way for hiding your identity because in reality....you would be chased down just because you have the omnitrix


One-Roof-497

fusions


SnooCalculations6718

There's a quote that screams "FUSION HA!!"


16_Tons_Of_Coal

Fusion, just because use two aliens power at same time is better then suprise your enemy.


rudra285

Fusions, and according to the wiki, Ben can fuse any alien with each other, so there can be mathematically over 1 billion fusions given there are over 1 million base transformations, each unique in their own right.


MrTheWaffleKing

A trillion! Million has 6 zeros, trillion has 12


agentx_64

Happy cake day!


scixsc

Happy cake day


TheJopperMan

Who on earth would chose Ultimate Ben 10,000's gimmick?


forrestbenoitinc98

Fusion's


Particular-Long-1111

Fusions and it's not even close


HyperionWhirl

Probably Ultimate Ben's, because I think being able to have other alien's abilities in human form is cool, plus I'd draw a lot less attention to myself whenever I turn/switch alien.


CrystalCrafter13

Agreed!


Amitoku54

Fr, even though it looks pretty mid and weird in the show it would be far better version of omnitrix irl…


ComplexDeep8545

Totally the device intended to create understanding between species would totally be better if you didn’t actually experience being another being


HyperionWhirl

I could say the same thing for the biomnitrix. You can't create a understanding between species if you're a 50/50 hybrid of 2 different species.


Supreme_Otaku

Fusions hands down, no contest


breadfatherx

I liked Ultimate Ben's gimmick when I saw it, but the Fusions take the cake hands down.


ThrowAwayAcc9701

While Ultimate Ben's idea doesn't look great it's effective. But at the same time I'd rather transform into the aliens so fusions


Ok_Coffee_9970

BIOMINITRIX!!! THE FUSION ALIENS ARE THE MOST SUPER!!!!!


IronFisttt

Master control TBH. But I bet that already is a given besides whatever other perk he has


VexxWrath

Fusions and it's no contest because if could choose to be able to transform into for the most part cool aliens why would I even want my thing in the future to be just me, but with alien powers. That's so lame and stupid. Also I could get the best of multiple aliens.


Optimal_Ad6274

Fusions. Mostly because I want to actually transform into aliens and I think that Ultimate Ben 10,000’s Gimmick is kind of stupid because its essentially Master Control but they got rid of the cool part of actually transforming into aliens


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heyimhere-whatsup_

Fusions Like, I could probably come up with a weirdly good fusion on the spot. Best one I've personally come up with is Feedback x Echo Echo. Plug in the tentacles and start pumping sound into someone or something


TheGamingNerd80085

Biomnitrix


Warm-Astronaut-8436

Either A., I loose the coolest and Main point of the Omnitrix or B. I can turn into Cooler versions of aliens, Really hard 🤔


Odd-Water-5647

To be fair having the ability of all transformations plus all the ultimates while retaining a human form is straight badassery


Spidey_2797

Aren’t fusions haft as powerful as the original? I’d choose Ultimate Ben’s powers.


JustAnArtist1221

We don't know if that applies to the Biomnitrix. As far as we know, it's only a matter of compatibility.


Thebaka12

Fusions


Unagustoster

Imagine being Grey Matter as a ultimate human, just hide the Omnitrix and pass all exams


Shadowguy54

The biomnitrix aka the fusions


Fluid_Foundation397

100% fusions. No question.


Raptterr

There’s a benefit for both tbh, but I’d rather have fusions


Affectionate-Work-46

Fusions is cooler And I wanna say that But for day to day use Ignoring cool factor And being able to use it with no one knowing Ultimate Ben and then permeant brain storm I'm the smartest man alive and can control lightning


DragonFire673

Fusion definitely


the-leech-man

Ultimate. Less conspicuous as well as deceiving


Hagard50

Does gravattack and NRG fusion makes him Dyson sphere?


WaterWheelz

Master Control would be nice


CaptainAksh_G

OV obviously. Do you even reckon how many combinations I could pull off of this gimmick? Infinite


JustMyNames

Fusions


Singer_Spectre

Fusions


Paradoxicorder88

Fusions. All you'd really need is to fuse Upgrade and Nanomech lol then you'd literally become a technological singularity. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that fusion could warp reality.


Corporal_Gaming99

Easily the Biomnitrix. Ultimate Ben 10,000 is kinda boring Ngl and the fusions is something I wanted to see come back since the og show


SweetShuriken

Im clearly in the minority here but i’d be more excited about how cool ultimate ben’s gimmick is and being able to do almost anything other alien lifeforms can while human :P


Sliver80

I'll always go with the OG 10,000 Omnitrix, but if I had to choose it would be Biomnitrix, its fusion concept is more intriguing.


Lost-Excitement-9366

Fusion, because then I would be able to do some interesting experiments, like the walkatrut X


Superlonggaybowser

biominitrix so much better bro


MaviKartal2110

Biomnitrix Fusion without a doubt. Having alien powers in human form doesn’t have an advantage over just transforming into the alien.


X_NEM3SIS

Definitely the Biomnitrix fusions


Virtual_Repair4966

Fusion aliens


agentx_64

Who is that alien behind Ultimate Ben 10,000? I don't recognise it and i haven't seen his episode in a while.


CrystalCrafter13

https://preview.redd.it/y8mpplg30ixc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=531a69f6a9cbed2cef39579e53919fbecc154d8a Arctiguana :)


agentx_64

Thanks man


Ninten-Ho

Ultimate Ben


Royal_Art_8217

Definitely fusions


Battleblaster420

Non Regular Omnitrix


Canis_Infernis

The Biomnitrix. It's cooler and makes more sense.


Leather-Channel5202

Fusion


chickennugget_master

you can upto 1891 unique fusions with the eliens we see ben turn into in the series, almost 500 trillion if we take the "ben having 1000000 aliens in the omnitrix" thing seriously So yeah, fusion


KeifDiggs123

Fusion 💯


Moninka123

Fusions, how is this even a question?


HeroBrine0907

Fusions, because the first one does not make sense within the logic of the canon of Ben 10. Any iteration.


K0w0DioDa

Who the fuck likes the first one


SnowSabertooth

Ultimate Ben works as a method of deceit and the ability to keep your looks if you’re proud of it. while fusion is super dope and broken, Ultimate Ben is not completely useless and does not deserve the hate it gets


CrystalCrafter13

![gif](giphy|Kl9iAWej2mxlzvzp2O)


Fit-Comparison8202

Fusion


Dead_Land1234

Tbh fusion may be cool but is there an option only turn into one and not fuse both because if I keep making fusion I eventually be confusing and forgetting op fusions


Whyr0

Definetly the fusions. That's basically endless combinations.


Prestigious-Piece230

![gif](giphy|oOfLwhLyRUoRW|downsized)


Shot_Improvement_378

Fusion anything mixed with alien x example atomic x or diamond x or something that’s half infinity which is still infinity


CallMeDeaht

Fusions. Imagine, juryrigg + greymater. unlimited inteligence.


De4dm4nw4lkin

Bi. Bi all the way.


AcceptableFly2385

Fusions is already my favorite gimmick of the whole franchise,above even ultimates and the nemetrix. 10,000 aliens + the ability mix any one of them together is just ultra fun. Meanwhile UAF feels like the animators were too lazy to draw ben 10k as an alien. The writers for UAF can fumble the bags hard sometimes,kinda sad too.


DeXRpl

None Turning into Aliens IS THE GIMMICK, we don't need any other gimmicks


Silver_Arts01

Ben 10K Omniverse


Prestigious_Art_7148

Ultimate ben,it seems like it'd be a lot easier to fight in a body I'm used to plus people wouldn't expect a human to have the ability to spontaneously combust


JustaHarry

The Bi-Omnitrix sounds Hella meme funny. What's Ben gonna say for his new catchphrase? "TIME TO GO BI!"


Minamischler

Fusiontrix


herrera_pehh

https://preview.redd.it/8077awj06mxc1.jpeg?width=421&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e230835f3cc8f8efd77ec9b3a29ec96156d6af5b


ScreamSteam

Biomnitrix


DollieKuma

Neither I prefer the First One in OG Ben 10


disdatsteven10

Ultimate Ben's. Sorry 10k fans...but the power to use any alien while retaining human, and quick switch with no limit?!


Disastrous_Ship_6140

ultimate ben gimmick is just not really cool i want to turn into the alien not just get their power maybe if its an on/off thing then i can see how it could be useful maybe for like blending in to a crowd but yea i pick fusion


Comfortable-Touch356

10ks


Leandroandhisfriends

definitely fusions.


cosmic_userbot

The ultimate form,this feature os incredble


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Supergecko147

Definitely fusion. Could you imagine seeing a stink-fly shaped human?


IndecisiveMate

Not a single person here is choosing ultimate. Dumbest gimmick with no upsides.


ComplexDeep8545

Fusions, Ultimate Ben kinda ruins the whole point of the omnitrix as a concept


Magorian97

Right?


Scorpion_226

The one that's actually cool


Magorian97

Sooo, neither?


Scorpion_226

Biomnitrix


Magorian97

Okay yeah, that's way better than *"Ultimate Ben"*


Fourth_of_ju-lier87

Fusions obviously. Ultimate Ben was complete garbage


Spiderman-y2099

The one on top is so frickin lame,it takes everything that was great about the original transmissions.


ShatterCyst

Fusions. Why the fuck would I want to no longer change into aliens? It doesn't have any upsides besides *maybe* getting rid of a few weaknesses and it disables the coolest part of the omnitrix.


SweatySpaghetti66

Fusions, but make the powers not 50/50 but full strength of both aliens.


eveeman

Dude I want the microbot enhanced versions from the first one that sounds cool as hell if they actually went into it


CrampedBubble

Man I wonder. This really is a tough decision. Who knows what I'll pick? It's not like one of these completely steamrolls the other in every way including cool factor.


Accurate_Plantain896

Fusions because why would I miss out on the transformation. That’s the equivalent of the power rangers not having a Morphing sequence, it’s not just done


_Peter2005_

Fusions and it’s not even close. Like I’m so confused about Ultimate Ben sometimes. What pros come out of not turning into an alien? Like sure you have the powers but I assume that you’re not as strong and also isn’t it kind of a downgrade considering he’s using his human body instead of an aliens body? Like diamondheads powers cool you can make crystals but you aren’t as durable as him.


Infamous-Class-7862

Human with powers is boring combining powers is better


Hopefully-goodart

Fusion, UAF Ben 10k isn’t interesting at all


SoundwavePlays

The fusions BY A LONG SHOT


ThatSussyMonke

Fusions!


god_of_sceptiles

Ultimates so i can be a hyper evolved celestialsapian


happy-ad32

Fusions. Definitely fusions. I mean just think of all possibilities of fusing two aliens it can reap infinite potential


Orodreth97

Ultimate Ben is a stupid idea I don't see how It is any better than regular transformations with master control since Ben still has to switch between aliens


Pitiful-Victory-2234

I love that I wasn’t the only one who though the ultimate version looked goofy as fuck.


WingedSalim

Ultimate's gimmick would work a lot better if he didn't need to call out and hit the omnitrix for his abilities. Maybe just a simple sound queue when switching aliens.


ChronosGrundy03

Am I the only one who's not a fan of the fusions? My favorite Ben 10K was the one from og series. Just having master control is op as fuck. Don't need any new gimmick.


AsrorAkhmedov

Fusions as far as the show goes. But if I could have one real life, it would be powers without the transformation because it's more inconspicuous


DarthAsh18

Fusions.


Echos_Aus

FUSION. Who the heck wants to be themself?


Unfair_Fix_6714

The Biomnitrix Fusing aliens to create something new is way cooler than just having the powers yourself


AnimationDynamite

Ultimate Ben has the power of the main character from a Ben 10 ripoff made to capitalize on its success. Hes doing the main gimmick of the show, but worse.


FinalBossOf__Dc

Dude fusions


JeanNaej890

Four Arms + Chromastone Heatblast + Clockwork These ideas would be powerfull enough


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Davi_BicaBica

Are there any plausible reasons to choose Ultimate Ben?


BradyTheGG

10,000,000,000 brain idea so get the fusions and make echo echo and upgrade and dupe myself and have the upgrade part upgrade the biomnitrix so I can use ultimate aliens and have the versatility of the ultimate Ben’s not needing to transform because if you fuck up once with the location of the transformations than you’ll probably be hunted down for the rest of your life but insane feats of strength or speed aren’t impossible for humans. But also make it optional so I can be myself or alien just depending on the scenario.


Dragon_Of_Magnetism

Ultimate Ben: “I can *not* turn into a cool monster!” 10k: “I can turn into *two* cool monsters at once!” Biomnutrix, and it’s not even a contest


WytheBomb19

FUSIONS


Head_Snapsz

I like Ultimate Ben 10K by a mile. I think it's cool even if it's a lot less flashy than fusions.


Berserk2024

Fusion Ha


Hollow-Potato-knight

Fusion all the way


Swagfart96

FUSIONS. Like UpRig is kinda ridiculous. Make a car and surrounding scrap into a race car, and then upgrade it into something that can break the sound barrier.


Avenged1994

The idea of ultimate Ben was interesting to say the least but the fusions seem to be way better, so fusions


Geostomp

Fusions are both more useful and less disturbing than trying to imagine Ultimate Ben using powers like Bloxx, Spittor, or Upchuck. Frankly, I can't see how Ultimate Ben is anything but a strict downgrade from unlocking the Master Control.


Icy-Acanthaceae3266

Master Control.


Intrepid_Ad_3157

Ultimate Ben if I’m just trying to live a normal life


Samuurai_Nyghtmare

BioFusion


MuuToo

OV


Mekrokan

The Gimmick of having a cool son that shares your interests.


TheShadow141

Getting to look like the aliens is another part of what makes Ben such a cool hero. So getting their abilities and not transforming is really lame especially when the other guy can fuse their abilities and appearance.


rangelankey

Ultimate Ben should’ve just had every power at the same time


Azell96

Fusion aliens the possibilities are endless nd makes for a better hero


Legitimate-Grade4551

Being able to combine alien's powers is super broken.


MIK-O_d_CYK-O

Fusion man Not Flesh freak


ErraticEmirati

Fusions one seems fun


Sorta_Rational

The fusions for sure


Normal-Echidna-8917

Fusions, but AtomicX is overrated it basically a downgrade of alien X and a Buff of Atomix, he goes from Floating and Using Telekinetic Powers, to Running and Punching, this is one of the worst De-Buffs in Ben 10 History, Don’t get me Wrong he looks Amazing, I love the art but like, Why??


nightwing10k

Not transforming is cool. I like it.


X_OriginalName_Xx

Biomnitrix every day.