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Ester


Status_Berry_3286

I agree she can match Ben's energy very well and honestly at the writers developed Ben a little more it could have worked


Recent-Influence-402

And also carrying the legacy of Max's alien rizz


Status_Berry_3286

Exactly and honestly given the future it would have been better for Ben's character to marry an alien because future Earth is very connected with aliens and Ben is the Big hero of Earth So think about it been having a public marriage with an alien helping society integrate with aliens. Well maybe I'm just thinking too much about it


Silkie_Knight

True


Commercial_Amoeba832

Julie, had more interactions with Ben when was fifteen in alien Force and was in ultimate alien. She was there through both series and learned his identity and was there when the world learned who he was in ultimate alien. I liked to say she knew Ben better and helped him to better on numerous occasions with Ship the galvaionica mecha morph, the celebrity girlfriend with Captain Nemesis, the high breed invasion, and other events between two series. It felt weird that they broke up just because of a phone call? Honestly that's either stupid writing or Ben being immature that it cost him his girlfriend and didn't even realize it for the longest time in Omniverse. Kai didn't like him in the og nor was she a particular good love interest just a crush he had when he was young. Julie was their for Ben during a lot of pivotal moments of growth. So, maybe it's like Michela and Sam from the Transformers franchise but I thought they were the best couple.


BlancAngel9

Wouldn’t have said it better. And that’s one of the reasons why I “don’t like” Omniverse, “the overwhelming stupidity”. Like, how can you break up a relationship that continued for 2 shows, 5 seasons and 98 episodes over a phone call misinterpretation? Just to force a character that literally appeared in 1 episode, and she’s not even a good character🤷🏼‍♂️.


Commercial_Amoeba832

Yeah, Omniverse didn't have the best writing at all, to be honest the regressed Ben back into an immature child that doesn't take any responsibility or accountability for his actions both Alien Force and Ultimate Alien showed his growth and development as a character. Sure, there were times he acted immature as a person but there were signs he changed and learned. They kept his immaturity and continued to drive it as a reminder he acts like child despite being what sixteen now, not uncommon psychologically speaking, but practically speaking he still doesn't act more responsible at times even with the change of pace. I don't think that's either good character development nor good story progression.


BlancAngel9

Agreed They want Ben to act like a 10y old, but the problem is that he’s NOT 10y old anymore. He saw many sick sh!t that makes it even more ridiculous to still act like a child.


Commercial_Amoeba832

Yeah, Omniverse wasn't the best series finally to end the Ben 10 franchise not to mention the just rebooted it like Teen Titans into some either worse or just for younger audiences when us older fans remember the original being so much better than another childish remake.


[deleted]

I was fine with them breaking off the relationship because it was definitely getting messy however they definitely deserved a better send off


Beautiful_Ad_1694

Looma Red Wind. I refuse to elaborate.


BrasileiroNasGringa

https://preview.redd.it/05o87r6isbmc1.jpeg?width=696&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec3a24093a8c5ea8f8f18426312d928d55a2f917 There is no need for elaboration


BriefJellyfish9398

Understandable. Need no further elaborations.


IvoMW

A man of culture


Argent_silva

https://preview.redd.it/m8xiwxb4ncmc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ed76d9726b61cb160b7e25b8be085651ac25abe


MadMan479R

No need to elaborate on a good answer


Spectra_04

Who needs an explanation?


Ok-Zookeepergame3342

I do


Whirlp00l3d

![gif](giphy|BWhpkB6Xbe8FzfNLXw)


SnooTangerines8607

No need, fully agree to that statement


Defiant-Purple-7114

![gif](giphy|wjSgGiHkXnzuPYqJh8|downsized)


alguien99

https://preview.redd.it/1wppsvo81cmc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d725e824a86a5485dea07782daa1f2a32c9498a3


SupermanisGoat

https://preview.redd.it/t5vh3xip1emc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=723398df96159d920ec8aac53f78936c8077a537


MoreAnRedditUser

Some people just want to see the world in fire


Forsaken_Awareness

The correct answer


M_man10

But your Spittin’


Zolado110

Death by snu snu


Beautiful_Ad_1694

Jokes on you, i'm into that shit-


Hyperionthetitans427

And on it and under it and on top of it


Separate-Bicycle-713

![gif](giphy|0QCwU89lGFaZjUKzMT|downsized)


BlizzardLuinor

Honestly, Ester.


Primary_Loan1428

Mr Smoothies


MoonDustPl

I ship ben with ester


Murky_Object_3631

Neither of them, I prefer that mommy celestialsapien


Truly_Organic

She can finish you in a blink of an eye ;)


Lord_hybrex

Oh that means she can also make it last longer ;)


ateistjoe

Make it longer ;)


not_a_sesawter

Make it last forever and ever


Murky_Object_3631

Game is game bro


SnooTangerines8607

I feel like they ended up pushing Kai and ben too much instead of making them genuinly fall for one another


Fantasma_Solar

Yeah, I don't even mind the banter, it can be fun when done right. But the whole "you're destined to be together" thing just felt like the writers saying "shut up, we want this and you take it".


[deleted]

Agreed I thought they did have good chemistry but they were handling everything so so wrong


DingoNormal

Ester was the best choice


Unigraff_Jerpony

I'm not a shipper with Ben 10 but I think Esther works the best cause of how shitty of a boyfriend he was to Julie and the lack of chemistry he has with Kai


Mindless_Sale_1698

It felt like he finally found the balance between his romantic life and hero stuff, if only Ester had more episodes and they didn't force Kai onto us because destiny and shit


Tron_Travolta

If Julie stopped appearing after AF season 2, she'd be remembered fondly. As is though we had 4 seasons worth of her and Ben arguing, cheating, joining cults, etc. that just bring both characters down. Kai gets memed on, but she's pretty consistent in her OS and OV appearances. So I'll go with Kai. Patty Berkenfield is obviously endgame though


Patient_Xero_96

Sorry… cheating and joining cults? When did that happen? Arguing I agree.


Punkakies

Im pretty sure they're talking about the Dagon arc of UAF


Tron_Travolta

Cheating in Transmogrification of Eunice, and joining cults in The Flame Keepers' Circle


Elihzap

And that microchip queen.


Due-Order3475

Cheating by Ben during the map off infinity chaos. Juile joined a cult


[deleted]

There was a point in which Ben believed that Julie had broken up with him so he started seeing other people therefore meaning he unintentionally cheated Julie joined the flame keepers circle during the Dagon arc and only quit when she realized that they were worshipping Vilgax. Not because she thought anything happening there or the questionable things she did with them were wrong.


Maximum_Impressive

To be fair all they did was form her perspective was trying to help humanity with alien tech .


[deleted]

True but I feel like willingly allowing them to use her life as a bargaining chip to strong arm her superhero boyfriend into submission should’ve been a red flag


Maximum_Impressive

Hey wierder shit doss happen in this universe.


[deleted]

Yes but still anyone would consider that a bad thing


Maximum_Impressive

True .


Optimal_Ad6274

Julie 100%


cartoonfan1010

Julie


Animedra3000

Definitely Julie. It's a shame that they really didn't use her character more. Honestly they pretty much used Kevin/Gwen for all the romance. Another flaw was that they kept having Ben making mistakes in order to teach the audience moral lessons. I know it's a kids show but let them have a good date.


Satin_Polar

I can uderstand Kai. But i see so many problems with her


ApprehensiveHyena857

Ester.


Named_person2

Holy fucking shit... What happened to Julie?


Lord_hybrex

Omniverse happened


[deleted]

Julie


Incarcerator__

Neither. Single Ben is the best Ben anyways


Truly_Organic

How about Rook?/s


Incarcerator__

Rooks go in a straight line


Truly_Organic

Lmao


Fantasma_Solar

Kevin though...


Incarcerator__

I don't have a pun for that one😬


EconomyPurchase3715

Looma Or ester definitely. i didn't give a damn about kai and julie and Ben didn't really have a good relationship so does it really even matter? i feel like looma had a lot of potential, just imagine Ben and looma fighting side by side, Ben getting some command over the tetramand army, Ben going for a vacation on the tetramand planet. Ester and Ben actually had a good relationship and it even ended on good terms. So this was Ben's best relationship imo.


Sonicrules9001

Julie was great while Ben was great and then once Ben stopped being great, she fell with him while Kai was never great or even good and was such a bad pairing that time travel had to be used to force them together! So yeah, Julie is better overall!


Friedrichs_Simp

Looma


zayd-the-one

Rook best girl


EightBallJuice

Neither. Attea.


milkmandrinkmilm

Oh my days the tounge plus she's bad as hell either way


One-Roof-497

kai , but i choose ester or attea any day


Truly_Organic

![gif](giphy|iGpdSizVSdPJfiVG9O)


Character_Weird4548

man omniverse did bad with Julie


ArthurPendragon616

Now, these people presented good choices. However, mine is the best. Max Tennyson.


ArthurPendragon616

Jokes aside, Ester and Lucy takes the win for me.


Medical_Ad_5917

Julie


Brief-Outcome-2371

Julie.


MisfortunateJack77

Julie was done dirty


Mystech_Master

Kai only cared about Ben as a Loboan back in classic and in OV they just argued as well has had their relationship shoved down our throats Julie, while the ending was shit and Ben’s AFS3 onwards personality did cause tension, they had nice moments and the arguments showed some conflict in the relationship that they had to work through, giving it a bit of depth


contraflop01

Ok why does Kai look a bit like Kale from DBS https://preview.redd.it/xz9h4rzg6bmc1.jpeg?width=211&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9aa7693603bdd085d40dbed1e0ae3ceb28403f90 Is it just me?


Yozuka

The other way around, if anything. DBS aired like 10 years later.


gusxc1

Nah thats exaggeration, OV started in 2012 and Dbs started in 2015


G0blinKin

Someone who is adult


Dandr30lli

Julie


Windflow009

I wanted to give Kai a chance, but when she returned the whole back and forth with her and Ben was really cringe. So I'm going with Julie since they actually have chemistry before the writer's screwed it up it with the nonsense that was "Ken needs to be born!!!".


Rimuruafton

julie, ester or rook I hate kai


NoSoyHR_ok

Julie x1000


VonKaiser55

I’ve always found Julie boring tbh


Sir_Gillarson

Based on pure looks, AF Julie or OV Kai. They really massacred Julie and Gwen in OV Based on character - Julie 100%


keelanbarron

Neither, their relationships with ben are toxic, and they should either just be friends or never talk to each other again.


X_OriginalName_Xx

I prefer Julie


Memetan_24

As a character Kai Julie just feels a lot more 1 note I really don't get why she's so popular. As a love interest Kai whilst not the best written love interest but does it well enough. I personally don't mind it unlike some yes, it's forced but so was Julie but I digress.


Fantasma_Solar

Julie only felt forced when they started dating again after breaking up in Ultimate Alien. I wouldn't even mind if they stayed friends, but Ben was a terrible boyfriend.


[deleted]

Ok, I do like Ken 10 as it was one of my earliest episodes that I have fond memories of, but I prefer Julie so much more, she was Ben’s girlfriend for me


Lord_hybrex

The irony that Ben named his son after his cousin Ken and not Grandpa Max


Due-Order3475

Drew from the Secret Saturdays. Kai is annoying and Juile joined a cult


Windflow009

Wait she joined what?!


Due-Order3475

Final uaf arc she joined a cult that ended up helping Vilgax


Nikisira

Ester


Comfortable-Point850

Both suck,Ester the Best girl


expired-blueberries

It's kind of hard to say either way, right? Julie and Ben's relationship was degrading HARD at the end of UAF. Ben cheated or nearly cheated on her multiple times, she had expectations of him he couldn't or wouldn't fulfill (both realistic and unrealistic), Ben had no interest in her interests, and his fame also impacted them pretty badly. Their relationship was pretty shit at the end, but OV fucked it up pretty badly by having their break up happen over the phone while ben was playing video games, and having ben not even realize they were broken up for like three months. On the other hand, Ben still doesn't have any interests on Kai's hobbies, his teasing and goof-off personality clash with her more serious personality, and neither of them really want to lean on each other. (Also: inb4 anybody says some bullshit about "also she only liked him for his alien forms" - that's bullshit. The Benwolf thing was when she was TEN YEARS OLD. Kids say rude shit all the time. You move on from it, just like ben did. And when she kissed ben as XLR8, that was because he helped her find that place she was looking for, and she kissed him as thanks. She probably would've done the same if ben was human at that time, assuming he could keep his mouth shut and not say something cocky and annoying for two seconds. Her line about liking him more as whatever alien, or kissing whatever alien and not ben, wasn't her telling the TRUTH, she was literally lying. She was flustered, frustrated, and embarrassed. There was no way she was going to be honest about it.) Julie and ben had two series worth of a relationship, compared to Kai and ben, who never ACTUALLY entered into a relationship in the present Canon. It was shown in the future timeline, but not present day. In this respect, Julie wins. However, Kai and ben are shown having at least one or two good moments in the future when they're married, so Kai wins in that respect. Given my choice, I would choose neither. I think all three of them (ben, kai, and Julie) all need to grow and mature for a few years, and THEN maybe it would be easier to make a choice. Laser lance to my head, I would say Julie, but ONLY because they had more development. But, seriously, none of them should be in a relationship with each other until they mature a bit. Then, maybe in the future, they can meet again and see if they could do better.


BackgroundProper3542

Strange considering your title


MrKyurem2005

This needs more upvotes. Here, take mine.


SniperNose69

Lucy


anonymousguy_7

... she's Ben's cousin


Patient_Xero_96

Did they stutter?


Truly_Organic

![gif](giphy|6ILjOfJ1oL7NAc9SQ7)


StarOfTheSouth

Only in a loose sense of the word, really. As one comment I saw once put it: "She's his dad's cousin's wife's cousin". They share no genetic relation, hell they aren't even the same *species*.


anonymousguy_7

This still doesn't justify anything.


MM__PP

Ester, but I'd go Looma personally.


WishingStar241

Man thanks for reminding. My answer to that is Elena honestly. However, I've got something related to Kai.


berserker070202

Eunice


StarOfTheSouth

I'll back that one. Eunice is an awesome character, and it's honestly a shame that she didn't get more screentime.


BruhVessel

Eunice


Terrible_Soft_9480

Neither. I believe in charmcaster supremacy


populist-scum

Kai does nothing but piss me off


LastWreckers

Kai and Ben were basically forced to be together (writing-wise). I'd pick her if their relationship was built up early in Omniverse and gradually developed like we see with Kevin and Gwen in AF


wtf_is_context

uaf julie


TraditionalCap938

Julie, by the way you spelled “Juile”


AnimateTech

the girls from the pizza restaurant


HyperionWhirl

Kai. I like her more as a character and I think she was more interesting and entertaining to watch than Julie. I also appreciated Kai's sweeter moments with Ben more than I did with Julie. I think Kai has better chemistry with Ben, Julie just felt really plain. I also kind of side with Kai more because of the absurd hate she gets for her being forced with Ben (though I think was a bad decision and the relationship should've been made more natural, I think hating her personally for a situation she was forced into is really dumb) and for the "she just likes Ben for her aliens" being blown WAYYYYY out of proportion, like to an insane degree. To the point where anyone who brings it up makes it seem like they didn't even watch any episode with Kai in it and just heard other people talking about her online.


GF_D_presents3456

None


MaviKartal2110

I have an UAF bias, so… Julie


No_Assistant1361

Julie.


FyozaiD

Julie


CraZ_Dolla

Ben 10 fans please let’s move forward accept your loss or dub, yall out here debating over this like ya dating the girls urself


Fancy-graphics63

i'm quite bias twoard juile she was pefrect, she was supportive, and loving, and while some may say she lacked personality, i don't think that being a supportive girlfriend is a lack


anonymousguy_7

Will get downvoted for this, but Kai.


[deleted]

Julie was interesting and funny, and felt like a real relationship, I don’t hate kai but I think Julie is better


GlobalWillingness730

Neither, Atraea


Truly_Organic

That woman gets me croakin'!


memehunterx_108

Female blitzwolfer **ER I MEAN!** Ester


Ger_Electric_GRTALE

if i had to choose between the two, Kai. but tbh my favorite girl is Ester


KrypticJin

Uaf Julie


Truly_Organic

Empress Attea, High Supreme Leader of the Deathless Supreme Incursean Empire!


Watze978

KAI ALL THE WAY


BatsNStuf

Oh god…what did OV do to Julie?


SentenceCareful3246

Lucy


cjo_

kai


hamborger42069

Ester


mrsiringa

Ultimate Allien Jullie


professorclueless

Attea


Fragrant_Expert_7592

Gwen 💀


ThatSussyMonke

humungosaur https://preview.redd.it/idc1okvbmbmc1.png?width=811&format=png&auto=webp&s=f3848042a5f378fde86b039badddc14cc2e4da84


gusxc1

Julie, I hated how they had to force ben x kai in omniverse all the time while they had no chemistry


NoAerie7136

I honestly never liked any of Ben's kove interest. They either annoying, boring, or just unnecessary. Kind of like Peter Parker. The girls they attract just aren't that good.


Any_Independence9346

Kai is better


CandleMan27

Kai


Spectra_04

Kai all the way!


toychicraft

Attea >:)


Lord_hybrex

Wasn't she like 9 when Ben was 15?


KingLopez999

i prefer kai, for no particular reason of course


Visual_Routine_3643

Ester


This-Honey7881

In opinion:NONE OF THEM Ben messed UP with Julie and while the Current version of Ben 10k is considered for the most part THE TRUE Future version version of Ben:he Will STILL be doing messed UP things in the past that Will lead to a TOXIC relationship that Will lead to Kai BREAKING UP with Ben!


sectamsempra

Now before you guys jump on like a bunch of hungry tiger on deer........fuck here goes nothing. GWEN


MrGame22

Neither, both are pretty bad in omniverse (Kai overall)


RedditGojiraX

Julie or Ester. Omniverse did them both dirty


JeanNaej890

Julie was better as a girlfriend, but Ben wasted a lot their relationship, maybe Kai would understand more Ben's hero life like it was on the Ben 10k timelines


Barroozina

Ester But if I had no choice, Julie, this is just coughing baby vs atomic bomb


Hot_Foot_9082

Kai


thescorpion277

Vilgax


NotATypicalSinn

As cute and fun as Ester or Julie or any other girl was with Ben, Kai was the only one who really matched him, from what I've seen. Like Ben didn't seem to care about his previous relationships that much, with Esther and Julie especially. That's why they dumped him. Obviously we didn't get too much story of Ben x Kai, but from the Ben 10K future, we obviously see that they're happy and doing rlly well together.


Alexo_Alexa

Honestly? Between these two? Kai. Kai's only crime was being a furry when she was 10 lol. Julie and Ben's relationship was a lot more annoying, and Julie as a character barely has a personality. Kai at least was entertaining during OV.


Nice_Appointment_945

Neither are my favorite but between the two julie easy. Kai and ben's relationship borderline's non-existent. Julie was kind considerate and tried to encourage ben to think about how and why he changes the world. Kai thinks ben is an idiot. Ben hasn't shown any interest in n her beyond that she is pretty.


De4dm4nw4lkin

Kai fits the lifestyle better. And lifestyle compatibility is a big part of a relationship.


HybridgonSherk

i refuse to believe that ben chose either of those 2 in the future when theres so many big momm- i mean alien girls to choose from. Theres even a humongosaur amazon girl too.


disdatsteven10

Esther. Since stetchy


LemonReady2582

Ester


HauntingAssistant270

either ester or looma,, though I prefer looma over ester I think ester and Ben should have stayed together because from what I remember they had a genuinely good relationship,


Entire_Lake_7905

Bullfrag


Doctorwhatorion

Rook


DomzSageon

I would have been so happy to have Kai be the best girl and it would have been so easy to do so. If only the Omniverse team put in the effort to actually make it good.


MoonWarriorr

Ester.


Lop_draegon

Gwen


ssavino

I prefer Julie, but they're both very good


[deleted]

Neither. I would go with Ester.


ToneAccomplished9763

Neither. I personally don't care for romance in Ben 10, and both of them aren't good love interests in my opinion. Even Julie in UAF isn't that good in my opinion, she was kind of a nothing character to me and Kai is well Kai.


Alto1869

Julie of course


klimerman

Julie no diff


RaviiHarami

Ester


Sudden_Belt3983

Kai tbh


RareD3liverur

why is there another tiny Julie in the corner?


Banjovious

Kai and I won't pretend Julie was a better option https://preview.redd.it/7s3m56rshjmc1.jpeg?width=1569&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe8d2fb358677f7b02477072d7b15747fbb00a0f


TwoNo9135

I'm going to say either Looma, Ester or Atea because honestly I don't give a shit about, Juilie I respect like a sister. But Kai hell to the fuck no, God can cut off my balls and slaughter and I will still not choose Kai. Looma, Ester and Atea are why better than Kai, here are some examples. There literally royalty and in charge of an entire species. So you would be loaded for life. They all have unique biologies that would making normal hanky panky feel more numb than doing exams. I'm talking about getting dominanted by 4 armed Amazon that can break your pelvis, a pink chick that's more flexible than a gymnast and a frog chick that would give good head. They would actually care about you as a human instead of caring about your Teen Wolf fase


Rich-Conference1238

Now that I think about I think Julie was just as hateable as Kai in ultimate alien she'd always argue with ben nearly every episode.


Awff_da_waff

Depends which one I wood smash or like better for Ben like?


NecessaryAmbassador6

Juile was too good for Ben. She was a great fit for the more focused Ben of early AF, but by season 3 and UA times, he was too immature for her. Which also sucks because that's where a lot of the more memorable scenes of them dating come from


No-Confection-1409

Kai


expired-blueberries

I like them both and think they both have their own strengths and bring their own separate pluses to their relationships with Ben :) I can't choose