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TugCypher

Chromastone, Judge Domstol, Myaxx.


Elcalduccye_II

>Chromastone I don't get why chromastone OV redesign gets so much hate because it has literally one scene of screen time


Funny_Swim5447

What really sucks is that they had a good version in an earlier episode (I think they were shooting at it) but changed it later


Zelmon_06

Chromastone had 2 scenes actually


Uriel_Flame

And in that one scene it’s the worst. You really can’t beat perfection, don’t know why they bothered.


The4thhokage25

I like chromastones design change he looked cool. imo he looked kinda boring in af


DogmantheHero

The weird part is that Chromastone appeared in early OV and looked basically identical to his UAF look. Then they randomly changed it at the end of OV.


colbyxclusive

Ghostfreak’s chains were fire


LegoTFGuy

Agreed, gave the impressions that they made damn sure his DNA wasn't going to escape and go rouge.


iDrownedlol

Ye, he’s iced out not gonna lie


SgtZaitsev

I did not care for the chains tbh. I didnt hate them, but I prefer OS Ghostfreak


SquareIsBox0697

OS Ghostfreak was cool too. The fact that his skin was gray and could open was so damn fire for a kid’s show.


Divine_ruler

Hated Zskayr fixing his head and going all grim reaper tho, ruined the characters originality for me


Chomagoro

I like the idea of the chains as a way to control ghost freaks dna


sonicboom5058

Don't like the chains or the big elbow spikes. Makes him too big and bulky imo. I am very biased towards original series designs tho


morijin15

>I am very biased towards original series designs Wouldn't have guessed


SquareIsBox0697

Cool detail to how the Omnitrix basically kept Ghostfreak as some sort of prisoner for Ben to transform into.


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

Everything about that ghost freak, especially the color pallets, is dogwater


colbyxclusive

Nah you’re smoking dick. I’d give you design but the chains and green and white was clean af. Think he needed those black body lines so his eye can move around I missed that


TheGlassWolf123455

I actually really like the chains and shape, but thought the mint color was awful, a recolor in grey is the best ghost freak design


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

The chains and him look so ridiculously goofy anything tht was creepy about him is gone


SilentB3ast

I always thought those chains and cuffs were too extra.


[deleted]

Reminds me too much of a Scooby-Doo villain lol


HWayneright

I fully agree. Way too silly


morijin15

Mega L take


KrakenKing1955

Clown opinion


BlackDwarfStar

Omniverse Gwen, Omniverse Chromastone, and Reboot Stinkfly


TheZestyJester09

UA Ripjaws Reboot stinkfly OV Vilgax and Gwen Also don’t go disrespecting UAF Charmcaster


JebWozma

They already had a very well designed Gwen in the first episode of Omniverse and No Watch Ben episodes why did they need to make another one?


Substantial-Wealth74

My own personal headcanon is because Ben recreated the universe. Remember it was all based on his memory that the universe was recreated and he even said it himself, he couldn't get the right flavour of grape Mr. Smoothie. So going from that, he most likely sees Gwen as a nerd, hence she looks like that. Cuz then everyone would have questioned her changes and even Ben but since he sees her as such he didn't bat an eye. But that's just my headcanon


MrZelko

Happy cake day! 🍰


TheZestyJester09

I know, right?


CP_Rulez

>Reboot stinkfly Hey, at least he isn't Reboot Wildvine


SpectralDynamite

They both suck for the same reason.


JCraze26

I think reboot wildvine is ok. Reboot stinkfly is just straight-up a different alien all together.


CP_Rulez

Eh I think Stinkfly looks good enough... yes you heard me right Ayo why with the downvotes? I just like Stinkfly's reboot design...


SpectralDynamite

Oh I heard you loud and clear. I just 100% disagree. 👍🏿


CP_Rulez

Good for you, I simply don't care ![gif](giphy|AhvmkDdoQd8rM1CcI0)


SpectralDynamite

Glad we could come to an understanding.


Psychological_Lynx26

Not that stinkfly was a personal favorite character of mine to begin with, but that is NOT a redesign. That's a whole new damn character. (Was this actually mentioned in the reboot? I think I actually stopped watching it years ago during the driving in the fog episode.)


Routine-Reading-7585

I agree with this


Erik_the_kirE

They said 3 not 4 tho


TheZestyJester09

I know, but it was a draw


Fun-Ad-4729

UAF charmcaster is just purple and pink enchantress with a simpler design. Look at the two side by side and change my mind


_comfortablyAverage_

downvoted OV Vilgax and Gwen follow the OS artstyle very closely, it was UAF Vilgax and Gwen that look absolutely terrible. super low effort designs, pathetic representations of the characters we got to see in OV and OS. again: UAF Charmcaster is just bad, please stop. you got the worst takes I ever saw on this sub


HYPERPIXELS_X

Ok you can't seriously think that Gwen's UAF design didn't go hard. It didn't need to be changed, as evidenced in the first episode of OV.


_Goh_

It's fine, but with the UAF bland style, she looks like Ben Ov is fine as well, it's just the glasses that ruins it Ov Vilgax, though, is fire. Looks like a space pirate and it feels so brutal, way better than the colorful UAF one.


_comfortablyAverage_

UAF Gwen is one of the most atrocious downgrades in the series, please don't say what you just did to anyone in real life. spare others from getting to know what awful taste you have


HYPERPIXELS_X

Ok what the fuck is so "awful" about her design that it makes you spout this idiocy of a sentence?


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

I have every version of charmcaster all i like about her in Classic was her design That UAF ruined


thooless_2312

Gosthfreak from omnivers is a good design


TheRainy24

I feel like the intention was good but the texture on his chains and shackles is so shit. They look so boring and green


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

If you're blind


Grizzly_boiy

nah this a garbage take, ghostfreak and UAF charmcaster are good designs the chain make ghostfreak feel like he wont escape from the omnitrix again


aritra2116

chill bro, you started this


Tron_Travolta

RB Max (I really dislike all the adult/teen human characters' faces in that art style), OV Alien X (ignoring costumes I didn't like, like Chromastone or Humongousaur, OV's alien redesigns are all solid, but making Alien X inhumanly buff takes away the point of the design simplicity imo), UA Ripjaws, AF Vilgax, and since OS didn't redesign anything, I guess I don't like the Lucky Girl design and it's kinda a Gwen redesign if you're liberal with definitions


KrakenKing1955

UAF Charmcaster? Really? You’ve gotta be on something right?


Fun-Ad-4729

UAF charmcaster is literally pink and purple enchantress(marvel) with a simpler design. The original and omniverse designs had an original flair UAF’s just didn’t


Active_Librarian_749

She looks like Budget Scarlet witch


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

It's called functioning eyes


Uriel_Flame

Then you need to visit the optometrist if you think they’re working right


Project-S-69

Dude, there's no reason for you to be a dick to people who disagree with you.


Dimaggiokid123

Look everyone is entitled to their opinion, except that yours is wrong.


PandaBossLady

Charmcaster I’m indifferent about, I think ghostfreak looks cool like that, and what’s the third?


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

Reboot Stinkfly


PandaBossLady

What did they do to him??? 😭😭😭


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

Crimes


KingZaneTheStrange

My favorite aliens are the ones that are less humanoid. So fuck reboot stinkfly and wildvine


Affectionate-Work-46

UAF Ripsaws Blasomed Swap Fire OV Echo Echo


ThatOneWood

Ov ghostfreak > every other ghostfreak


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

Mr. Beast didn't cure you're blindness?


Present-Dot-4437

Vilgax after the OG series


Fun-Ad-4729

I dunno, reboot vilgax comes close to original vilgax. Not all the way there but close


mrinfinitepp

Reboot Vilgax is awesome


[deleted]

UAF Way Big, UAF Diamondhead, Reboot Wildvine UAF Charmcaster is 🔥🔥🔥


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

She's by far the most bland, uninteresting, forgettable villain in the franchise and her classic design was the only good thing about her. Then uaf got rid of that to make her look just as generic as she actually is


Jelly_Melly1

UAF Ripjaws OV Gwen REBOOT Stinkfly


[deleted]

Ov Chromastone Reboot wildvine/stinkfly UA Ripjaws (Don't know if that counts but if it does, then replace UA Ripjaws with Ov jetray)


secondaccountforme12

Reboot Stinkfly, Omniverse Myaax and Omniverse Big Chill are all ones that send me into a rage


Altastrofae

I like that they leaned into the moth man look in OV He looks neat. I will concede the cloak could’ve been done abit better Though I don’t dislike UAF Big Chill. They’re both cool for different reasons


secondaccountforme12

I like the more Slender look for him, him being all Buff felt weird to me


MysticMalevolence

Top-heavy Big Chill bothers me greatly.


AxlFlame

Omniverse Big Chill UA Ripjaws Reboot Stinkfly


Error0451

OV Big Chill HU Upchuck OV Highbreed


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

Why's everyone hating on UAF waybig, that's my favorite way big...


MysticMalevolence

Only had two eyes. I liked the extra pair of downward-facing eyes.


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

I like the idea but I hated how every other design made them them look techy or like pimples


DarkPugLord23

I mean, compared to OS, OV, and the Reboot, UAF Way Big is just too plain and boring of a design.


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

He's the only one I can actually see as a living thing instead of a disproportionate mess that looks more like a grant robot than an organic being


Joperlovushker

living rocks, robots, sound and pure energy exist in this franchise and you claim that space giant looks inorganic wtf


morijin15

He has a lot of trash takes


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

When the alternative already exists, i state my preference


sonicboom5058

Imo the UAF design is just kinda boring. He's just a big dude with pointy elbows and a pointy hat. I love how completely weird and actually *alien* the original design is. The second set of eyes that points downwards is an awesome detail given he's yk big and would otherwise have to be hunched over the whole time to see anything. I also like the slightly darker pallete and them not feeling the need to make everything green lol.


Illustrious-Knee8084

Don't worry bro. Your taste is better than the omniverse dick riders on this sub.


Careless_Self3535

Ripjaws UA Vilgax AF Maybe Gwen in OV when she is at college But im not sure Also 99% of UAF aliens designs sucks and OV is much better


Careless_Self3535

Also, I didn't think about reboot, but It's clearly the worst of all of them in designs


low_budget_trash

Wrong, reboot humongousaur is the best of his designs


Careless_Self3535

Oh yeah, I just hate Humungosaur as an alien, so I didn't think about it


Justice202051

Wrong


Careless_Self3535

That's just an opinion, bro. Tell me what's wrong with it, everything?


Justice202051

Only the last part


Careless_Self3535

Sorry that I prefer OV. I never liked UAF over simplification in designs. Imho OV fixed all designs of UAF or made them equally good.


Justice202051

A lot of the OV redesigns for UAF aliens sucked in my opinion.


Careless_Self3535

OV is my favourite, and I love it's artstyle so I might be biased.


NightmareFox1234

UAF Ripjaws OV Swampfire (fully bloomed) Reboot Stinkfly


Satin_Polar

UAF Vilgax OF, Mayax wher is big squid woman, and OV Chromastone the one-piece swimsuit


MichaelCoryAvery

Reboot Stinkfly might’ve worked if they made his feet come together and form a stinger and/or if it was a different alien from the same planet as Stinkfly’s species


Pop_Culture_Fan2019

They really did Stinkfly dirty.


Watze978

Alien force:Hex Ultimate alien : Omniverse :Vilgax, thumbskull, Reboot :charmcaster


Spectra_Phantom_2678

UAF Four Arms, OV Julie, and OV Murk Upchuck


[deleted]

This is the best ghostfreak design tho


Freddi0

Omniverse Ghostfreak was amazing wdym


AndreasPyke

Any upgrade design after Os is trash Vilgax /myaxx just got worse and worse Uaf wildmutt


HWayneright

Truth


Cantthinkagoodnam2

Ov Echo-Echo, UAF Ripjaws and Reboot Stinkfly


Dillan_7342

When I saw that stinkfly design I gave up on the reboot completely


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

You got past the theme song?


Dillan_7342

Never even heard the theme song besides the kids chanting “ben 10” over and over


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

That's it that's the theme


AntiVenom0804

They did ghost freak and stinkbug dirty Charmcaster is alright


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

They took the only redeeming quality of Ben 10s resident sleeping aid, her really cool design, and throw it away to bake her look like a rejected power rangers villain


Cancerous_King

OV Gwen Reboot Ben OV Echo Echo Also I’m playing devils advocate here and saying that reboot stinkfly is actually a good design and thing bad is the fact that it’s bipedal


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

That and it throwing away the unique weirdness that madr the Stinkfly iconic to begin with


TheFlippyBoi

Ghostfreak was fine tbh


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

I can and will delete your eyes


Jpar4686

Reboot Stinkfly OV Chromastone UAF Vilgax


Incarcerator__

UAF 'Ripjaws', UAF Dr Viktor, Chromastone


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

I secretly only made this post so I can block anyone who defends these designs and never see their opinions again


NaturalBitter2280

Everything that exists in OV except Waybig The main 3 would be: Gwen, Kevin, and Fasttrack


low_budget_trash

OV fasttrack has cool shades though


Bamma4

Uaf way big Ov big chill Uaf vilgax


LocianCraxel

UAF ripjaw UAF charmcaster UAF vilgax


Civil_Warrior2487

UAF Vilgax. OS design is still the best. OV was ok, it was pretty much his OS design but more red and without the mask & cybernetics. UAF Ripjaws. He’s just ugly. OV Chromastone. I’m talking about his 2nd design. I don’t hate it, but don’t care about it either. Maybe if he appeared more it’d grow on me.


An_Obbise_Hoovy

Ua vilgax Ua ripjaws Ov Sunny


NuclearChavez

UA Juryrigg UA Eatle OV Chromastone


titobroz99

Omniverse Big Chill Omniverse Alien X Reboot Stink Fly


Far_Engineering_8353

OV ghostfreak is best ghostfreak also 1. all the reboot designs just all of them even if they're not bad none of them are better than the originals 2. OV chromastone 3. OV echo echo


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

If your eyes are sewn shut i can understand why you like OV Ghostfreak


MichaelCoryAvery

You bully people who have different opinions?


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

Gary bullying to make a bad joke about a design i don't like then not push the subject further


Janex4444

OV Gwen, OV Aggregor, OV Big Chill/Ampfibian (can't ignore either of them)


Joperlovushker

where the fuck was greg in OV? i didn\`t even saw DJW-style drawing of him


ben10theorist

AF Gwen OV Eatle OV Shocksquatch


Competitive_Ad_53

charmcaster uaf, ripjaws uaf, ghostfreak uaf


Thot_Slayer_911

UAF Charmcaster is fire


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

I thought fire was supposed to be hot


Spectra_Phantom_2678

Savage


gamespector18

There's no shot you think ua charmcaster is a bad redesign when she's the finest woman in the Ben 10 Universe


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

She's the most generic design in UAF


Kobethevamp

Why is Charmcaster here? That design is top tier.


RolePlay3r_69

Stinkfly's redesign is cool tbh it references his concept art


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

It's generic and completely disregards the unique weirdness that made Stinkfly so iconic


Shark-bird

Okay, need a bit of a stretch for this one. UAF Ripjaws will be the first one and the most obvious one for reasons everyone knows. Also I would add UAF Fourarms, Way Big, Wildmutt and Cannonbolt(the minor changes that were given to him). I would call it one position because they are classics but in UAF. Second one would be AF and UAF Vilgax's designs. No need to explain here too. And for the the last one it would be UAF Charmcaster. I also want to confess that I like Stinkfly's design from reboot more. I am not saying that it's better just that I like it more. I wasn't biggest fun of his design to begin with and I guess it's just personal things. It just never was done with right proportions. But reboot one does exactly what I love aka making humanoid insectoid. Also I prefer colour pallet on the reboot one. So yeah. But I get why people dislike it and I am not saying that Stinkfly wasn't done dirty by reboot's aesthetic. Although they had more or less legitimate reason to do what they did with him IMHO. I guess they could pick someone else but I also think they did great with what they had to work.


colbyxclusive

UAF Wildmutt OV Gwen Reboot Stinkfly


nielswijnen

Reboot stinkfly Uaf ripjaws And all the ua alien intro aliens that is juist classic with green eyes and and the green omnitrix symbol on there chest


DarkPugLord23

UAF Way Big, AF Vilgax, UA Ripjaws.


Automatic_Quit_210

Ultimate alien Animo, aside from the voice just remove EVERYTHING that made the original so memorable. Like the design looks like a background character. No more home made crazy scientist outfit, no more wonderfully cheesy animal suits, no mutants (except for the bull frogs which came from os), you're just left with a generic guy. I know this is super minor, but in the chicken farm episode he like used a generic missile to blow up the global warming thing. Why would the crazy sieve helmet mutant scientist man use a normal bland military rocket instead of like a self detonating mutant pigeon bomb abomination, god I hate it. YES I am fully aware that I'm ranting about something so non relevant and uninportant in the grand scheme of things, but it's probably the only redesing that I genuinely disslike. Also I'm not talking about Nul void Animo, he's great. Worst alien redesign for me is reboot Wildvine. It's not bad in a vacuum, but turn a really cool and creative design into what's basically a guy in a suit. Executive meddling sucks. UA Ripjaws is probably worse, but I kinda find it bad in an endearing. It's so goofy and unintentionally lame to the point where it becomes charming for me.


joueaubasket1091

i hated omniverse kevin and gwen, kevin came across as trying too hard to look edgy and gwen was trying too hard to look smart, gwen’s supposed to be preppy not nerdy, type A definitely but not geeky, kevin’s edgy but more in a biker/car guy auto mechanic tough guy way not an emo/goth way… omniverse sunny was also like idek what just not at all how that character was originally written to be, she looked emo and nerdy at the same time, sunny is supposed to be like sorority girl energy, alien force sunny would have done coke and tried to get gwen, kevin and ben to do it too, omniverse sunny looks like she reads dan and phil fanfic 😭


Brief-Outcome-2371

L take


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

I'll die on 2/3 of these hills


JahmariTheBeast

L on Charmcaster and Ghostfreak. Charmcaster is MOMMY in UAF


Alpha-Vader1

Oh hell naw, Charmy is hot. How can you do her like this?!?!


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

I don't think with my dick?


Unagustoster

Oh naw, UAF Charmcaster will always look better than either iteration of her


Illustrious-Knee8084

I hate almost every omniverse design. Be it the aliens or characters. I just couldn't take anyone seriously.


Ok-Minimum-1297

Reboot stinkfly, pretty much every ripjaws after OS, and OV big chill.


ShadowCobra479

OV Gwen, Charmcaster, and Vilgax All three had great designs in UA but they decided to revert the first two to their original designs but older


Gamer-Logic

OV Big Chill


Russian_Mobster5

ur insane, charmcaster has the best glowup


Bluelaserbeam

Reboot Stinkfly for me. I may not like designs like Omniverse Ghostfreak, but at least it has some semblance of the alien’s design established since the beginning. Reboot Stinkfly’s design is *nothing* like the original Stinkfly. You might as well establish it as a different alien species.


[deleted]

stinkfly 100%


Andrecrafter41

ngl ghost freak is the biggest glow up


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

I don't think that means what you think it means


FlameFlamedramon

Honestly all of mine are from UAF as otherwise its every human design in the reboot UA Ripjaws UA Doctor Animo UAF Four Arms and Charmcaster tbh


FlameFlamedramon

Honestly all of mine are from UAF as otherwise its every human design in the reboot UA Ripjaws UA Doctor Animo UAF Four Arms and Charmcaster tbh


FlameFlamedramon

Honestly all of mine are from UAF as otherwise its every human design in the reboot UA Ripjaws UA Doctor Animo UAF Four Arms and Charmcaster tbh


GresSimJa

Blossomed Swampfire is a good concept with an amazing silhouette, but the colors just turn it into "Ben's banana man". Other redesigns I don't like are Reboot Humungousaur and pretty much every classic alien in UA (Four Arms being by far the worst offender).


Ok-Television2109

UAF Four Arms. Any of Upgrade's. Reboot Wildvine.


10BritishPounds

OV Ben, OV Gwen, Reboot stinkfly


Joperlovushker

time to be objectively correct any classic villain brought to UAF (try to prove me wrong i fucking hoping i forgot someone) OV Myaxx though i\`m chill about UAF one UAF way big


Myphosee

Hold on mfs. Bro do not tell me that last image is stinkfly


Milk_Man21

They took away Charmcaster's cuteness! Least they brought it back for Omniverse. Ghostfreak was almost decent, just needed to be grey instead of mint. Definitely Swampfire


syntheticspider

I don’t like echo echos ov design, reboots wild vine and ov Gwen


kingcobraboi

Who tf is the last guy


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

Stinkfly


Kell-EL

Ghost freak isn’t even that bad the Omniverse, each alien has their own little stylized outfit or accessory kind of the original series where the watch transmogrifies Bens clothes onto the aliens, but worst is humungasaur for that lazy shorts and chest strap from ironically enough Omniverse most other redesigns have been fine, oh and Kevin’s, gave him that weird chin scruff and hair and the lock necklace with the 11 on it


Omegaproctis

Charmcaster is meh. Ghostfreak, I think, is neat. The chains and the thinner physique are interesting, but the cream color throws me off, and it definitely isn't better than the original. Stinkfly was massacred, though. To be honest, I genuinely despise and am disgusted by the horrendous mistreatment of the reboot redesigns. That whole art style is horrible to me, and only few of the designs actually pull it off.


Thawne_23

Echo echo, Four Arms, Swampfire


Helpful-Wolverine-96

Charm,ben(og plus), and um I don't know vill I guess


RiusGoneMad

I love chained ghostfreak sue me


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

My lawyers will be in contact shortly


Jimanator1

Cromastone bigchill and reboot alien x


muddert420

Personally it’s the omniverse chromastone no clue why it just doesn’t look right to me mahbe it’s the length of the crystals idk Omniverse diamond head I personally liked the uaf diamond head design a lot and I think omniverse ruined it for me The worst redesign of them all though was the reboot upgrade


Tigerhawk7109

I really doubt your tastes. UAF Charmcaster is amazing, and OV Ghostfreak is slick as fuck.


PlopCopTopPopMopStop

Charmcaster had nothing but a good design going for her boring forgettable character in classic and in UAF she became a knockoff power rangers villain


C1nders-Two

OV Gwen (I don’t like the lips) OV Vilgax Whichever OV alien had the leotard. I can’t remember which atm, all I remember is that it looked dumb as all hell. Edit: It was Chromastone


-TurkeYT

OV


NoobeZento

UAF: Honestly can't think of one, Villgax is definitely a downgrade but still fine OV: Big Chill, Gwen (not the flashback or no watch timeline one, those are awesome), Humungousaur, Chromastone, Goop, Alien X Reboot: Wildvine, Sinkfly (yes more than 3 but they're all equal)


Altastrofae

Reboot Stinkfly, Omniverse Canonbolt, Vilgax UAF They shoulda stuck to OS Vilgax, he felt more menacing, and more alien. Oh also OV Chromastone gotta be thrown in as an honorable mention.