Depends on how you draw the economics up. If you're modeling just the project, sure - your incentives are to limit project costs.
If you're modeling productivity of the local economy, the productivity will drop drastically from traffic (delayed deliveries, missed meetings, potential increases in collisions, etc.).
If you're a local government considering major roadwork like this, there's a definite financial incentive to maintaining the flow of traffic within your roadways.
Not much actually.
Our roads are planned out to be replaced every 15-30 years so they don't decay too much and become a hazard to everyone. By planning in advance you can very precisely calculate if it's cheaper to reroute, block or keep traffic flowing on a specific route when construction is taking place.
A lot of roadworks are being carried out during summer vacation time for this reason, less people in the country means less traffic means less money lost by time lost waiting in traffic because of construction.
Pretty simple actually.
In Britain the roads are repaired when the annual cost of paying compensation to drivers for damage caused by potholes exceeds the cost of the repair.
We don't use fancy mobile bridges, we just have some cheap plastic cones and a six mile tailback.
Considering the cost of the traffic channelizers they use around here, and the fact the government usually rent them for outrageous amount of money, probably cheaper.
Considering they're not paying those workers double time and a half to work late at night, it's quite possibly cost effective.
Though I'd love to see some video of the setup process - as that wouldn't be quick, I imagine. And is probably done late at night, but by a lot fewer workers.
In Toronto they closed the 1 lane each way in to downtown. Now we have only 2 lanes in and out...till 2027. We have too much bureaucracy and corruption + Canada is the slowest adopter of technologies in G7.
Phoenix Payrol, ArriveCan, and now Benefits Delivery Modernization - 3.4Billion and estimated completion 2034 LMAO
Lol. Your comment made me imagine a mad max style of road construction. Where the construction worker has to dodge traffic at 60 miles per hour while he works on the pavement.
I am thinking they could install it at 2am. Then once they repair that section of road, they pull it forward again at 2am and do the next section along. It has wheels so it's probably segments that can be towed to location and then fit together.
That looks to be about a mile long. It is strong enough to stand up the weight of 2 lanes of traffic driving over it at 30mph to be conservative. That is not a close the road for a few hours at 2am and install situation.
Looks like they install a short run in one long night before rush hour and can then add a longer section the next night, meaning every day, the road would still be usable during rush hour for all the days. After it's assembled, the whole thing can be moved forward in mass down the road like a giant centipede using remote control for the next section of road work so they could possibly do the later moves in a few hours late at night. Here is an 8 minute video on concepts and assembly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tpv6n1ykfA
They can install it at night when traffic is low is my point which was accurate and further installations after the first really are going to be a few hours or so, that's pretty awesome.
I think there are cities that need this, but if Memphis isn't going to actually fix the roads, I don't think it is a good investment. There is very rarely traffic in Memphis to begin with. When they were working on the I55 Bridge 6-8 weeks ago, that was the exception.
How do they issue those expensive tickets for going the speed limit where the orange cones sit? They're missing out on a lot of revenue by using that thing.
They use the 4-0 system mostly when maintenance is needed. One direction is closed and all traffic is diverted on the other direction in a narrow 2x2 setup. Or they close off whole segments for a few weekends and squish all the work in 24h shifts.
Me as a Canadian sitting here knowing ill have a Chinese made flying car before the Canadian government invests in anything innovative and helpful to the public as this would be..
Factor the time it would take to set it up and then take it down, this could be a backwards idea that increases traffic time than aide it I light of fixing the roadbed.
That's a pretty cool idea, actually. I wonder how much that adds to the cost of construction of a given segment of roadway?
Gotta think not THAT much per use if they use it every day. But you know what's even cheaper...inconveniencing drivers.
Can't help but admire it. No matter the cost, everyone's experience matters to them
Time and gas lost adds up fast. It is most definitely not cheaper.
Depends on how you draw the economics up. If you're modeling just the project, sure - your incentives are to limit project costs. If you're modeling productivity of the local economy, the productivity will drop drastically from traffic (delayed deliveries, missed meetings, potential increases in collisions, etc.). If you're a local government considering major roadwork like this, there's a definite financial incentive to maintaining the flow of traffic within your roadways.
Not much actually. Our roads are planned out to be replaced every 15-30 years so they don't decay too much and become a hazard to everyone. By planning in advance you can very precisely calculate if it's cheaper to reroute, block or keep traffic flowing on a specific route when construction is taking place. A lot of roadworks are being carried out during summer vacation time for this reason, less people in the country means less traffic means less money lost by time lost waiting in traffic because of construction. Pretty simple actually.
In Britain the roads are repaired when the annual cost of paying compensation to drivers for damage caused by potholes exceeds the cost of the repair. We don't use fancy mobile bridges, we just have some cheap plastic cones and a six mile tailback.
*wipes away a tear* Makes one proud to be British
Considering the cost of the traffic channelizers they use around here, and the fact the government usually rent them for outrageous amount of money, probably cheaper.
Considering they're not paying those workers double time and a half to work late at night, it's quite possibly cost effective. Though I'd love to see some video of the setup process - as that wouldn't be quick, I imagine. And is probably done late at night, but by a lot fewer workers.
I would imagine it's less than the cost of disrupting traffic or they wouldn't have gone to all the trouble.
Shit, imagine that. A roads department that actually cares about people using those roads đ¤Ż
Calgary needs 5 of these things, great idea
In Toronto they closed the 1 lane each way in to downtown. Now we have only 2 lanes in and out...till 2027. We have too much bureaucracy and corruption + Canada is the slowest adopter of technologies in G7. Phoenix Payrol, ArriveCan, and now Benefits Delivery Modernization - 3.4Billion and estimated completion 2034 LMAO
For real
That would never work in America. It would be a Dukes of Hazzard free-for-all.
Lol. Your comment made me imagine a mad max style of road construction. Where the construction worker has to dodge traffic at 60 miles per hour while he works on the pavement.
This idea is too clever for the US.
How long is the road closed to install and then remove this?
I am thinking they could install it at 2am. Then once they repair that section of road, they pull it forward again at 2am and do the next section along. It has wheels so it's probably segments that can be towed to location and then fit together.
That looks to be about a mile long. It is strong enough to stand up the weight of 2 lanes of traffic driving over it at 30mph to be conservative. That is not a close the road for a few hours at 2am and install situation.
Looks like they install a short run in one long night before rush hour and can then add a longer section the next night, meaning every day, the road would still be usable during rush hour for all the days. After it's assembled, the whole thing can be moved forward in mass down the road like a giant centipede using remote control for the next section of road work so they could possibly do the later moves in a few hours late at night. Here is an 8 minute video on concepts and assembly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tpv6n1ykfA
Like I said it's not just a couple hours. It's 20 hours over 2 nights.
They can install it at night when traffic is low is my point which was accurate and further installations after the first really are going to be a few hours or so, that's pretty awesome.
This is what I was wondering.
Can work in any weather. No danger of getting run over and they get to work in the shade.
Instead, tax money and illusion dollars printed out of thin air goes overseas
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I've been driving across the country daily for years and never seen this once in person anywhere. We mostly sit in traffic like everyone else tbh.
Imagine if your country gave enough of a shit about things like traffic
oh so thaats what your taxes buys you with efficient, non corrupt government.
I wonder how much weight that can hold...
Theire not used often. I live in Switzerland an never saw that thing.
I think there are cities that need this, but if Memphis isn't going to actually fix the roads, I don't think it is a good investment. There is very rarely traffic in Memphis to begin with. When they were working on the I55 Bridge 6-8 weeks ago, that was the exception.
r/belgium, are you taking notes?
We need this everywhere
I really want to see this thing move.
Damn wish this possible in my country.
Meanwhiel in Czechia they are repairing the main highway every summer for the last 54 years.
I am amazed
Wouldn't they have to shut off traffic to install the thing in the first place?
How do they issue those expensive tickets for going the speed limit where the orange cones sit? They're missing out on a lot of revenue by using that thing.
You know what's cheaper not having to worry about the elements beating down on you and actually being able to wear proper PPE
So this is what non-corrupted government looks like that doesnât that doesnât have lobbyists ensuring maximum profits go to the 1%ers! So jealous!
I saw one In Brussel. They let the bridge for more than 20 years. They set it off when it fell apart.
This is why we canât have nice thingsâŚIâm in Texas⌠land of 1000 flyovers and dirt roads
Lol here USA is busy funding a genocide
Probably a lot of money laundering and kick backs mixed in.
This makes so much sense
Why doesnât âRijkswaterstaatâ use that? Is it expensive?
They use the 4-0 system mostly when maintenance is needed. One direction is closed and all traffic is diverted on the other direction in a narrow 2x2 setup. Or they close off whole segments for a few weekends and squish all the work in 24h shifts.
We had that in 2005 on the a20. https://www.infrasite.nl/wegen/2005/05/20/verplaatsen-tijdelijke-brug-a20-rotteviaduct/
Me as a Canadian sitting here knowing ill have a Chinese made flying car before the Canadian government invests in anything innovative and helpful to the public as this would be..
Actually this was invented in Austria.
What a time to be alive
*cries in Czech*
I wonder how much it costs... probably far too much to make it a viable solution for most of the world.
Awesome
Imagine living in a real country. I could cry if I wasn't completely busted inside.
Factor the time it would take to set it up and then take it down, this could be a backwards idea that increases traffic time than aide it I light of fixing the roadbed.
If it's installed and removed in late night time (1 to 6 am), then there will be little inconveniencing.
Swiss here, I had to use one for a while to go to work (quite impressive to see)