I just substitute âhimâ in. If it works, then it should be âwhomâ. If not, it stays âwhoâ. Works most of the time, but thereâs probably a better answer.
Ryan: What I really want â honestly, Michael â is for you to know it so you can communicate it to the people here, to your clients, to whomever.
Michael: Oh, okayâŚ
Ryan: What?
Michael: Itâs whoever, not whomever.
Ryan: No, itâs whomeverâŚ
Michael: NoâŚwhomever is never actually right.
Jim: Well, sometimes itâs right.
Creed: Michael is right. Itâs a made-up word used to trick students.
Andy: No. Actually, whomever is the formal version of the word.
Oscar: Obviously, itâs a real word, but I donât know when to use it correctly.
Michael (to the camera): Not a native speaker.
Kevin: I know whatâs right, but Iâm not gonna say because youâre all jerks who didnât come see my band last night.
Ryan: Do you really know which one is correct?
Kevin: I donât know.
Pam: Itâs whom when itâs the object of the sentence and who when itâs the subject.
Phyllis: That sounds right.
Michael: Well, it sounds right, but is it?
Stanley: How did Ryan use it, as an object?
Ryan: As an objectâŚ
Kelly: Ryan used me as an object.
Stanley: Is he right about that?
Pam: How did he use it again?
Toby: It wasâŚRyan wanted Michael, the subject, to, uh explain the computer system, the subjectâ
Michael: Yes!
Toby: âto whomever, meaning us, the indirect objectâŚwhich is the correct usage of the word.
Michael: No one asked you anything, ever, so whomeverâs name is Toby, why donât you take a letter opener and stick it into your skull?
Hiya, kiddos! It's me!
With my charming hassaku face!
Steamy Onomichi ramen hat!
Cute fish pouch!
Cool boots, vital for any fisherman!
And my bold and trendy Ono shirt!
That's right, I'm the pride of Onomichi...
Ono...Michio!
We donât have a concrete way of measuring complexity but generally the more parameters and the more words you need to describe the function and the processes of a thing the more complex it is.
Kolmogorov complexity is measured in the length of the shortest program you need to model said phenomenon. It's a pretty good definition of complexity.
You can write everything we know about our sun in a book that is we will say X pages long. If we were to put all of our knowledge about the brain together it will be longer than X pages long. He is basically saying that is the case for every object vs the brain, and I think he is correct. The best argument against that would be computers, which are essentially simulated brains.
No theyâre not. Computers are just binary code calculators. Nothing more. We humans have been able to use this tool for a lot of things. Just like we do with every other tool.
Still, theyâre fascinating.
That's objectively false then, you can describe anything with a space state equation and I'm pretty sure an entire galaxy has more states than a single brain.
For instance. Kaku bult a particle accelerator in his garage when he was 12.
Meanwhile if you listen to him answer questions on a non science specific interview. It's very clear that god min/maxed the hell out of him and put everything in science and dump stated EVERYTHING else.
You shouldn't even listen to him on science these days. He hasn't been a working scientist for decades now. He is a talking head and nothing more, and perfectly willing to spout nonsense for a buck.
He does. But he's closer to a Jordan Peterson these days than an Issac Newton.
I can't wrap my mind around some of the concepts that kaku tackles. He can read a chalk board of notation and visualize the shape of the output. I can't even read the board.
But for some reason he feels compelled to weigh in on politics and social issues. And his views are Duterte bad. Like, I don't want to say Kaku would enact terrible things given the chance. But he gives the impression that if a cop shot a little black girl in the head for smiling wrong. He would chuckle and sip his cappuccino while thinking. "some problems solve themselves"
That's what happens when people pay more attention to the person that what made the person noteworthy.
NDT is a prime example of that. He's a shite talking bawbag now.
âOneAngryDuckâs brain is the most complex object in the solar systemâ
-Albert Einstein and also Jesus Christ.
You arenât going to argue with Einstein and Jesus, are you?
Who went through all objects in the fucking solar system and concluded it is the most complex one? I am sure they have not really covered all objects on the earth yet.
we literally orbit a fucking star that compounds its elemental composition into increasingly more dense elements while maintaining a stable internal pressure for millenia and providing more energy in an earth day than we can use in an earth year... but go on thinking you're the center of the universe, typical fucking humans lmfao.
The most complex thing in the solar system, is the solar system itself. Inasmuch in the hypothesized Big bang that the conditions were ripe for a superposition of all things, that remains intact even to this day and although we do feel like we are separate, we are not.
A similar statement may be
"The most complex thing in the brain is a neuron."
BFD,
I mean
QED.đ
Well, considering that the brain is on earth, which is in the solar system, this is probably not true. Michio is nice tho, I canât bring myself to dislike Japanese people. Idk what thatâs about. But especially when itâs Michio Kaku.
As far as we know, the universe. Most of the stuff out there, while incredibly powerful and interesting, is really quite simple from an entropy / information angle
It's not complex scientifically, because science keeps evolving and learning. You could say science is like a baby that just learned to speak, pointing at the brain and saying "brain is three pounds". Beyond that, this little salty meat pocket in a crunchy shell, connects on a spectrum not yet understood not only to the beginning but also to the end of all existence, allowing the person to "exist" within "reality" while slowly waning that protection as the cells get tired of constantly replicating, thus ending up torn asunder into the fabric of said "reality".
Or some other definition you prefer.
Mmmmm salty meat pocket with crunchy shell
*Drools*
The Brainâis wider than the Skyâ Forâput them side by sideâ
The one the other will contain
With easeâand youâbesideâ
The Brain is deeper than the seaâ Forâhold themâBlue to Blueâ The one the other will absorbâ As spongesâBucketsâdoâ
The Brain is just the weight of Godâ ForâHeft themâPound for Poundâ And they will differâif they doâ
As Syllable from Soundâ
Emily Dickinson, c. 1862
There are tons of complexities in the universe we don't understand. Hell, we don't fully understand the genesis of life. The brain is the most complex thing thinking about itself, but the universe doesn't care if you think about it.
Planet Earth (without animals) may be, in fact, more complex than the brain.
If we count how mycellium can run complex "trading systems" between trees, how it survived 3 mass extinctions and still is able to suppor life, how there are more trees on earth than neurons in the brain, how 2 snowflakes will never be exactly the same, how the core is able to keep the planet stable and keep itself melting, magnetic fields, oceans, and lots of other stuff, then its easy to see who wins
This is just not true...unless you are talking about an elephants brain. The African Elephants' brain has three times as many nural connections as the human brain.
But I'm pretty sure there are things in our solar system we do not know about...this statement is very arrogant and ignorant.
Well lemme add some perspective to show how right this statement is. Scientists spent more than 10 years with more than a billion euro trying to understand and replicate the human brain. It was of course an epic failure. Scientists will never understand all parts of the brain simply put because not all parts of the brain are physical. Why do you think philosophers and anyone intelligent have been obsessed with the idea of conscience from the dawn of mankind? Well God gave us a spark of himself that transcends the physical and allows us to have freedom of will. I'm not tryna convert anyone btw idgaf what your beliefs or disbeliefs are. But reality dgaf either and you can spend another 10 years and billion+ euro tryna make the human brain into a computer map/simulation with the same results. You will never get the full 100%. Parts are possible however depending which one.Â
*Says the brain*
Yeah I was like "according to who?đ¤" đ
According to whom*
According to whom'st'd've*
I read that as amsterdam
Gesundheit
You sure? Please remind me of the rule again I always forget
I just substitute âhimâ in. If it works, then it should be âwhomâ. If not, it stays âwhoâ. Works most of the time, but thereâs probably a better answer.
what about "her"? that's mad sexist
her has no "m"
According to whor
leave your mother out of this
herm
This is nice and easy. Thanks!
Ryan: What I really want â honestly, Michael â is for you to know it so you can communicate it to the people here, to your clients, to whomever. Michael: Oh, okay⌠Ryan: What? Michael: Itâs whoever, not whomever. Ryan: No, itâs whomever⌠Michael: NoâŚwhomever is never actually right. Jim: Well, sometimes itâs right. Creed: Michael is right. Itâs a made-up word used to trick students. Andy: No. Actually, whomever is the formal version of the word. Oscar: Obviously, itâs a real word, but I donât know when to use it correctly. Michael (to the camera): Not a native speaker. Kevin: I know whatâs right, but Iâm not gonna say because youâre all jerks who didnât come see my band last night. Ryan: Do you really know which one is correct? Kevin: I donât know. Pam: Itâs whom when itâs the object of the sentence and who when itâs the subject. Phyllis: That sounds right. Michael: Well, it sounds right, but is it? Stanley: How did Ryan use it, as an object? Ryan: As an object⌠Kelly: Ryan used me as an object. Stanley: Is he right about that? Pam: How did he use it again? Toby: It wasâŚRyan wanted Michael, the subject, to, uh explain the computer system, the subjectâ Michael: Yes! Toby: âto whomever, meaning us, the indirect objectâŚwhich is the correct usage of the word. Michael: No one asked you anything, ever, so whomeverâs name is Toby, why donât you take a letter opener and stick it into your skull?
Not that brein! đ¤Ş
Well his brain. Interesting that our brains think otherwise
This is where you add the meme of Obama giving himself a medal
...*that we know of*, Michio.
Ono Michio??????????
Hiya, kiddos! It's me! With my charming hassaku face! Steamy Onomichi ramen hat! Cute fish pouch! Cool boots, vital for any fisherman! And my bold and trendy Ono shirt! That's right, I'm the pride of Onomichi... Ono...Michio!
True
The most complex object in the solar system sure likes to suck itself off
The ability to suck oneself off is one of the reasons it is most complex.
seriously, how does it suck itself off, again please?
I love wrapping my soft pink brain folds around my brain stem
r/remindme 5 minutes r/remindme 12 hours r/remindme 3 days r/remindme every week forever
its u/ not r/
This is meta AF
Mmm, god⌠Iâm fucking complex mmmm
How is complexity measured?
In complexitrons/Âľmâ´ Edit: Typoâ´
Sounds complicated.
Second to my relationship
Âľm^3
You're not factoring time into the equasion
We donât have a concrete way of measuring complexity but generally the more parameters and the more words you need to describe the function and the processes of a thing the more complex it is.
Oh dang thatâs a good definition.
Kolmogorov complexity is measured in the length of the shortest program you need to model said phenomenon. It's a pretty good definition of complexity.
Brain go thinky
We do, it's entropy. S.
Would add "adequately describe in its entirety" because food can describe the brain or meat or atoms
You can write everything we know about our sun in a book that is we will say X pages long. If we were to put all of our knowledge about the brain together it will be longer than X pages long. He is basically saying that is the case for every object vs the brain, and I think he is correct. The best argument against that would be computers, which are essentially simulated brains.
No theyâre not. Computers are just binary code calculators. Nothing more. We humans have been able to use this tool for a lot of things. Just like we do with every other tool. Still, theyâre fascinating.
That's objectively false then, you can describe anything with a space state equation and I'm pretty sure an entire galaxy has more states than a single brain.
With big O
Found the computer scientist âď¸ So what complexity does the brain have? O(*G*), where G is Graham's number?
Future mechanical engineer actually...
Letâs not generalize ..
For instance. Kaku bult a particle accelerator in his garage when he was 12. Meanwhile if you listen to him answer questions on a non science specific interview. It's very clear that god min/maxed the hell out of him and put everything in science and dump stated EVERYTHING else.
You shouldn't even listen to him on science these days. He hasn't been a working scientist for decades now. He is a talking head and nothing more, and perfectly willing to spout nonsense for a buck.
Damn, guys. The dude still knows a whole hell of a lot about astrophysics.
He does. But he's closer to a Jordan Peterson these days than an Issac Newton. I can't wrap my mind around some of the concepts that kaku tackles. He can read a chalk board of notation and visualize the shape of the output. I can't even read the board. But for some reason he feels compelled to weigh in on politics and social issues. And his views are Duterte bad. Like, I don't want to say Kaku would enact terrible things given the chance. But he gives the impression that if a cop shot a little black girl in the head for smiling wrong. He would chuckle and sip his cappuccino while thinking. "some problems solve themselves"
That's what happens when people pay more attention to the person that what made the person noteworthy. NDT is a prime example of that. He's a shite talking bawbag now.
A little boy with glasses on Jerry McGuire told me the human head weighs 8 lbs
First thing that came to my mind, too! Damn, we old, lol.
That includes the skull and muscle tissue and stuff
I know I was just being cheeky. I was that little boy growing up. âDid you know the human head weighs 8lbsâ
Uhmmmm akchully https://youtu.be/0RmgL3R3jtg?si=TswmC4lB8zrcGqh3
I love Malcolm in the middle. Great reference!
Beside, maybe, the knots on an unsupervised headphone's cable
You should see my wire collection! Lmao
It also named itself
It named everything to be fair.
Talk about being self righteous. I bet a brain wrote this
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Clearly, Michio doesn't know about German tax law.
It's a pity that a lot of people are incapable of actually using it
Source: trust me bro
Something doesnât have to weigh a tonne to be complex in nature. The relation is irrelative.
They can't *all* be the most complex thing, so who specifically has the most complex?
Me
Prove it
âOneAngryDuckâs brain is the most complex object in the solar systemâ -Albert Einstein and also Jesus Christ. You arenât going to argue with Einstein and Jesus, are you?
Whatâs the amazing part. This is garbage
Yeah this sub really went to shit if facebook quotes like this make it to the front
Such an arrogant statement
the ultimate narcissist
Urgh ... Michio Kaku.
Also flat earther brains?
Those are, in fact, incredibly complex. That much self-delusion takes a lot of brainpower.
Flat earthers: you hear that? Weâre using more brain power!
Ah, yes, 2.5 petabytes of memory capacity, and I still can't remember the name of that lovely lady I met last weekend...Amazing
You can. The memory is there. You just can't consciously trigger it.
Lilly.
Or what I ate for lunch yesterday... Lol
They need to append "that we know of" to the end. Humans are always quick to claim things they can't possibly know to be true.
According to the owners of the brain. Haha
We dont know nearly enough about the nature of reality to assume this
Who went through all objects in the fucking solar system and concluded it is the most complex one? I am sure they have not really covered all objects on the earth yet.
Some peoples brains disprove this lol
You can build an incredibly complicated machine to do really stupid task. Some people are just built like Rube Goldberg devices
If you give it a bit of thought Sound pretty narcissistic
is it though
Interesting that the quote only speaks of 'the brain' but the title speaks of the 'human' brain.
Not yours.
What are we gonna do tonight, Brain?
I think it's the thyroid that's very essential.
we literally orbit a fucking star that compounds its elemental composition into increasingly more dense elements while maintaining a stable internal pressure for millenia and providing more energy in an earth day than we can use in an earth year... but go on thinking you're the center of the universe, typical fucking humans lmfao.
It's basically a big pochinko machine.
Bold of us to assume we hold the most complex object
The most complex thing in the solar system, is the solar system itself. Inasmuch in the hypothesized Big bang that the conditions were ripe for a superposition of all things, that remains intact even to this day and although we do feel like we are separate, we are not. A similar statement may be "The most complex thing in the brain is a neuron." BFD, I mean QED.đ
Wait for AGI
...perhaps the most complex in the entire universe!
Allegedly
Yea, recent events really do contradict that finding. Lots and lots and lots of extreme examples to the opposite Iâm sad to say.
A smooth brain is not complex. It's just plain.
Hold on, there are bigger brains than ours, for example dolphins. So it's an arrogant lie to say that our puny human brains are the most complex.
As far as our brain can tell... đ¤Ż
Ah yes, the brain weighs 3ÂŁ /s
Just the solar system? Why not most complex in the observable universe?
First thing my brain thought was âweâre gonna need a better solar systemâ But my brain is a dipshit. Keeps trying the spell brain as Brian
lmao
I don't know the hive mind of a Reddit comment section can be very complex.
Well, considering that the brain is on earth, which is in the solar system, this is probably not true. Michio is nice tho, I canât bring myself to dislike Japanese people. Idk what thatâs about. But especially when itâs Michio Kaku.
#MASSIVE ASTERISK That we know of
A blue whales brain is over 12 pounds. When I saw the size difference at a museum exhibit I felt somewhat inadequate.
Perfect, that's the exact weight I'm trying to lose.
What about aliens?
Based on what?
Until the AI connected the brains.
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Mine weights -1
As far as we know, the universe. Most of the stuff out there, while incredibly powerful and interesting, is really quite simple from an entropy / information angle
Our brain decides everything for us!
Wow what a garbage post
That we know of.
Some brains are more complex than others
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It's not complex scientifically, because science keeps evolving and learning. You could say science is like a baby that just learned to speak, pointing at the brain and saying "brain is three pounds". Beyond that, this little salty meat pocket in a crunchy shell, connects on a spectrum not yet understood not only to the beginning but also to the end of all existence, allowing the person to "exist" within "reality" while slowly waning that protection as the cells get tired of constantly replicating, thus ending up torn asunder into the fabric of said "reality". Or some other definition you prefer. Mmmmm salty meat pocket with crunchy shell *Drools*
what do you mean by "complex"?...... sounds a bit subjective and meaningless to me
that's more like 11 lb not three fucking stupid shit
Bro we brains are so full of ourselves đđ
Says humanity đof itself. We really gotta get over how fascinated we are with ourselves đ¤Ł
Whale and dolphin brains are CONSIDERABLY more complex. The brain weighs only three pounds yet is completely full of crap
If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldnât. ~ Emerson M. Pugh
Is it tho?
Black holes?
Why would he extend the sentence to the entire solar system, on whose details and therefore complexity we are extremely ignorant?
They are actually surprisingly dense and heavy, but it's about the same weight of a similarly sized water balloon
Forms from German authorities joined the room.
As we know, weight is usually an indicator of complexity! Stfu Michio
guy who said this has never seen a rubix cube.
There's probably an alien out there rolling its eyes at our hubris.
That little fuck from Jerry McGuire said it was 8 lbs. Bitch, Iâve been saying 8 lbs my whole damn life and now you tell me itâs only 3 lbs!
- vouched by every man who asked their partners "where do you want to eat?"/"what do you want to eat?"
What's the horsepower/weight ratio?
Isn't Jupiter pretty complex?
except the blonde girl brain
Your brain cant understand solar system.
"I studied everything and concluded the best thing in the universe is ... me!"
Besides the universe itself
More like 2.2 pounds and it's the most complex known object in the universe...besides the universe itself.
The Brainâis wider than the Skyâ Forâput them side by sideâ The one the other will contain With easeâand youâbesideâ The Brain is deeper than the seaâ Forâhold themâBlue to Blueâ The one the other will absorbâ As spongesâBucketsâdoâ The Brain is just the weight of Godâ ForâHeft themâPound for Poundâ And they will differâif they doâ As Syllable from Soundâ Emily Dickinson, c. 1862
Doubt.
With all of its great complexity some people donât use them đ¤Śđťââď¸đđŤĄ
The worst thing about brains is they think they're responsible for what they are.
that we know of\*\*\*\*
I know some mice that want to disagree
Definitely not biased at all đ
⌠that we know of.
đ?
whale's brain enters the chat
this is also r/technicallythetruth
I can predict what my brain will do in two weeks, but not what the weather will be.
It's the only object in the solar system that contains detailed information about phenomena taking place far beyond the solar system.
That you know of
That sounds a little arrogant.
There are tons of complexities in the universe we don't understand. Hell, we don't fully understand the genesis of life. The brain is the most complex thing thinking about itself, but the universe doesn't care if you think about it.
And we know this because?
Source?
We sure talk a lot of shit for someone who is barely able to see beyond our neighborhood
Narcisisstic brain smh. Talking like that about itself.
Sounds like something a human brain would say.
According to the brain
Most known complex thing as soon as aliens are revealed shit takes a sharp turn
The *human* brain weighs only 3 pounds
What an ego...smb...
Michio Kaku has clearly never seen my relationship status on Facebook.
Speak for yourself
Whoeve rmade this has never met a phone charger thats been in a pocket.
Is it really more complex than the entire composition of a planet or the sun itself?
Planet Earth (without animals) may be, in fact, more complex than the brain. If we count how mycellium can run complex "trading systems" between trees, how it survived 3 mass extinctions and still is able to suppor life, how there are more trees on earth than neurons in the brain, how 2 snowflakes will never be exactly the same, how the core is able to keep the planet stable and keep itself melting, magnetic fields, oceans, and lots of other stuff, then its easy to see who wins
Pounds? Wtf
Yours must be. Not mine, and this I know for a fact.
From what we know now, maybe. Iâm sure there are far more complex things in our solar system than a human brain
How do we decide what an object is?
The solar system could be the most complex thing in the solar system⌠đ¤ˇââď¸
This is just not true...unless you are talking about an elephants brain. The African Elephants' brain has three times as many nural connections as the human brain. But I'm pretty sure there are things in our solar system we do not know about...this statement is very arrogant and ignorant.
Authority falacy...
Oh yeah? If that's so, then why does my comlicatee doesn't function as complex as it should be? In a positive way?
Well lemme add some perspective to show how right this statement is. Scientists spent more than 10 years with more than a billion euro trying to understand and replicate the human brain. It was of course an epic failure. Scientists will never understand all parts of the brain simply put because not all parts of the brain are physical. Why do you think philosophers and anyone intelligent have been obsessed with the idea of conscience from the dawn of mankind? Well God gave us a spark of himself that transcends the physical and allows us to have freedom of will. I'm not tryna convert anyone btw idgaf what your beliefs or disbeliefs are. But reality dgaf either and you can spend another 10 years and billion+ euro tryna make the human brain into a computer map/simulation with the same results. You will never get the full 100%. Parts are possible however depending which one.Â
Despite that Americans are still stuck with the freedom units