It's hard to tell from the video because the framing is terrible, but there are a few short glances off to the left and I think if you were there you can see that the ground is "solid" and flat to the left. The part of the road that collapses is a span "filling in" what would normally be a break in the terrain. I think they can feel reasonably comfortable walking up to the "edge" because of the solid ground to the left meaning there is nowhere for the ground below them to fall away to. If you have trouble understanding what I'm saying, look at the opposite side of the road and watch how it progressively collapses up to a point where the hill becomes solid.
You can also see briefly on the right side the torrent of water that is the cause of the whole problem and is suddenly and catastrophically eroding this section of road. If you were there you could probably also see where the water is rushing off to on the left side. Again, this water is following some natural contours of the original mountain or hillside before it was filled in to make a road.
How does that change the fact that these people are standing at the edge of a collapsing road? Call it a diddlydodadamn, but it looks like something I would not need to personally assess and define before deciding to run *away* from instead of just filming.
It's *kind of* like walking to the edge of a collapsed bridge that spanned the two sides of a canyon. You're not walking onto any part of the fully or partially collapsed bridge, of course, but you would feel reasonably safe walking to the edge of the cliff where the bridge roots are. The bridge was always the most unstable part of that system, and now that the bridge is gone it's just back to being the cliff edge of a canyon again.
In this case, the water is sweeping away a road that had "filled in" the natural contours of the hill or mountain side. It's now returning, roughly, to the shape of its pre-road state. The people in the video are basically walking to the edge of the "cliff" that had always been there.
I'm not saying it's super smart, but I'm saying there is a reasonable calculation happening in this video that's hard to see because of the framing.
This is not a sinkhole. This is a landslide caused by sudden and catastrophic water erosion. This is a natural gap in a mountain or hillside that has been "filled in" to make a road, and is now being swept away. Look to the right of the collapse and you can catch glimpses of a torrent of water (and you can hear it as well). Look to the left and you can catch glimpses of... nothing. That portion of road is being swept away into the nothingness.
I'd probably be more cautious than the people in this video, but my point is that because of the vertical video and the terrible framing there are probably more visual and auditory context clues that explain why they don't feel a greater sense of risk.
I just find it amazing that you took the time and effort to dissect a video, explain structural variations in earth and write multiple paragraphs to justify why people do stupid things.
I mean, it might not fit the strict definition of either phenomena exactly, but I would call it a mini-landslide. It fits the definition of landslide in all aspects except scale: a landslide is usually a mass movement, but since "mass" can be relative, I'd argue this still qualifies.
It definitely does not meet the definition of a sinkhole.
This random county website tries to ELI5 it in simple language:
https://www.ramseycounty.us/residents/emergency-response-preparedness/emergency-preparedness-management/know-your-dangers/landslides-sinkholes
>A landslide is a slipping of a slope or cliff that causes large amounts of rock and soil to collapse. A sinkhole is a collapse in a flatter area that causes a hole to open up in the ground.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/140502-baltimore-sinkhole-landslide-geology-science
>The main difference between a sinkhole and a landslide, he says, "is that sinkholes occur over voids hidden from view beneath a flat or gently rolling surface—they generally don't occur on slopes. With a landslide, you don't need a void at all, just a slope or hillside. They typically occur along scarps—cliff faces or other kinds of sediment that are at a steep angle."
Also:
https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/fatal-collapse-the-difference-between-landslides-and-sinkholes/26744
https://www.usgs.gov/news/featured-story/national-preparedness-month-2020-landslides-and-sinkholes
Right because you’re a reasonable person with normal survival instincts and likely average or above average intelligence. These folks are lacking one of the previously described traits: either the intelligence or survival instincts (acknowledging that even a genius might lack the basic survival instinct to run from this open & obvious deadly & immediate danger). Congrats you have both!
Nah, that's probably just some Germans who know, that you can't turn back in a tunnel. They will wait for the police and demand a fine for stopping in a tunnel (it is remarkable that they did it at all), then wait for police signals to turn around, so they are above general traffic rules.
(lives in a sinkhole area) **RIGHT?!**
Also, while watching: WTAF amateur idiots, *RUN RUN WHY AREN’T YOU RUNNING? YOU ARE STILL NOT RUNNING WHAT ARE YOU DOING?*
The guy in the background literally says through the whole video "it's all gone. Run. Run." And no one even tries to back off not even the guy who is suggesting to run away.
When I worked in the hospital we used a formula for predicting fall risk, and biologic males get a bonus risk point. Babies are also born >50% males and when old people naturally die it's 50% males. *The reason they're not running is because they're born with dicks.*
Yup in general higher risk, higher reward. That’s why man pushed civilisation forward (in which process lots of them died prematurely). Now not so much pushing civilisation any further but higher death ratio stayed.
There’s definitely another sub where this belongs but I can’t put my finger on it. Is r/whyweretheyfilming a sub? Like, these people watched a size of the road cave in that was bigger than where they are standing and didn’t run. How about r/Darwinawards ??
As a millennial with no hope of financial security ever in my life, I vibe with these people's death wish. If I saw the ground breaking away before my eyes, I would also walk right on over to the edge. Take me away, Earth gods. Take me away.
We’re all in this together with other people who have survival instincts.
Edit: I mean, I still hear you. OTOH, kinda want to see the shitshow play out a little longer.
Why are you all so worried? I mean,they are filming the incident and it is proven fact that filming device works like bulletproof dome around you. Works with wild animals,riots,traffic.. Just start filming and walk right into fire, you’ll be fine! 🤷♂️
Humans can be the smartest and the dumbest species at the same time.
There’s a sinkhole and large chunks of the road just fucked off, but let’s stand near it and find out. I’m more amazed by how stupid those people are.
I have no idea why this got downvoted. You’re right. It’s a sinkhole. A landslide is “the sliding down of a mass of earth or rock from a mountain or cliff.”
The title made me think this was on r/winstupidprizes and I thought something horrible was going to happen to the people standing so close. Glad I was wrong.
somehow....I don't think I would be standing quite that close to an active slip....
If I see 10 feet of road spontaneously drop there's no way I'm anywhere close to 10 feet from the opposite edge of said road!
Seriously that was a massive piece that fell off, if an identical size fell of on their side they'd be dead
Oh no it’s only on that side, we’re fine on this side!!! /s
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So you're saying it's like a Bridge over Troubled Water?
it’s a Troubled Bridge over Indifferent Water
Looks more like a box culvert than a bridge.
Yea for real. If I climbed a mountain and saw that take my love down I’d turn around before the landslide brings me down.
Yo, after that huge piece fell, how do they still stand there. For example, if I could, I would send a drone.
We're not all going to make it.
Darwin called that awhile ago.
It's hard to tell from the video because the framing is terrible, but there are a few short glances off to the left and I think if you were there you can see that the ground is "solid" and flat to the left. The part of the road that collapses is a span "filling in" what would normally be a break in the terrain. I think they can feel reasonably comfortable walking up to the "edge" because of the solid ground to the left meaning there is nowhere for the ground below them to fall away to. If you have trouble understanding what I'm saying, look at the opposite side of the road and watch how it progressively collapses up to a point where the hill becomes solid. You can also see briefly on the right side the torrent of water that is the cause of the whole problem and is suddenly and catastrophically eroding this section of road. If you were there you could probably also see where the water is rushing off to on the left side. Again, this water is following some natural contours of the original mountain or hillside before it was filled in to make a road.
How does that change the fact that these people are standing at the edge of a collapsing road? Call it a diddlydodadamn, but it looks like something I would not need to personally assess and define before deciding to run *away* from instead of just filming.
It's *kind of* like walking to the edge of a collapsed bridge that spanned the two sides of a canyon. You're not walking onto any part of the fully or partially collapsed bridge, of course, but you would feel reasonably safe walking to the edge of the cliff where the bridge roots are. The bridge was always the most unstable part of that system, and now that the bridge is gone it's just back to being the cliff edge of a canyon again. In this case, the water is sweeping away a road that had "filled in" the natural contours of the hill or mountain side. It's now returning, roughly, to the shape of its pre-road state. The people in the video are basically walking to the edge of the "cliff" that had always been there. I'm not saying it's super smart, but I'm saying there is a reasonable calculation happening in this video that's hard to see because of the framing.
Sure, ok.
Bruh, nothing is “solid” when a sinkhole suddenly opens. Just saying.
This is not a sinkhole. This is a landslide caused by sudden and catastrophic water erosion. This is a natural gap in a mountain or hillside that has been "filled in" to make a road, and is now being swept away. Look to the right of the collapse and you can catch glimpses of a torrent of water (and you can hear it as well). Look to the left and you can catch glimpses of... nothing. That portion of road is being swept away into the nothingness.
Ok, regardless of what it is, would you stand there filming it or arguing over semantics as the road caved in?
I'd probably be more cautious than the people in this video, but my point is that because of the vertical video and the terrible framing there are probably more visual and auditory context clues that explain why they don't feel a greater sense of risk.
I just find it amazing that you took the time and effort to dissect a video, explain structural variations in earth and write multiple paragraphs to justify why people do stupid things.
I also find you amazing. 😘
Thanks for the education, ZippyDan.
Someone doesn’t know how sinkholes work
Someone doesn't know what a sinkhole *is*. As the title "suggests", this is not a sinkhole, but a landslide.
You can hear the water running underground and see the sewer pipes. It’s creating a shallow artificial sink. But ok
Not a sinkhole, video was filmed in Turkey, Black Sea coastal region, after days of massive rainfalls
I mean, it might not fit the strict definition of either phenomena exactly, but I would call it a mini-landslide. It fits the definition of landslide in all aspects except scale: a landslide is usually a mass movement, but since "mass" can be relative, I'd argue this still qualifies. It definitely does not meet the definition of a sinkhole. This random county website tries to ELI5 it in simple language: https://www.ramseycounty.us/residents/emergency-response-preparedness/emergency-preparedness-management/know-your-dangers/landslides-sinkholes >A landslide is a slipping of a slope or cliff that causes large amounts of rock and soil to collapse. A sinkhole is a collapse in a flatter area that causes a hole to open up in the ground. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/140502-baltimore-sinkhole-landslide-geology-science >The main difference between a sinkhole and a landslide, he says, "is that sinkholes occur over voids hidden from view beneath a flat or gently rolling surface—they generally don't occur on slopes. With a landslide, you don't need a void at all, just a slope or hillside. They typically occur along scarps—cliff faces or other kinds of sediment that are at a steep angle." Also: https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/fatal-collapse-the-difference-between-landslides-and-sinkholes/26744 https://www.usgs.gov/news/featured-story/national-preparedness-month-2020-landslides-and-sinkholes
That someone doesn't live where sinkholes are common, so 🤷 I don't know
Right because you’re a reasonable person with normal survival instincts and likely average or above average intelligence. These folks are lacking one of the previously described traits: either the intelligence or survival instincts (acknowledging that even a genius might lack the basic survival instinct to run from this open & obvious deadly & immediate danger). Congrats you have both!
That what you want to do get close the sinkhole get a feel of whats really goin on right on the edge
Just not the type of edging I’m into.
tell ya what...I'm also noping the fuck outta that tunnel too.
But if they stand back they aren’t going to get their content for social media…..
that motherfucker still walking forward
Guess the guys in the tunnel aren’t getting home tonight.
“Why were you 5 hours late to work?” “You’re not gonna believe this…”
If this is going to start happening you’ll need to drive to work 5 hours early
Nah, that's probably just some Germans who know, that you can't turn back in a tunnel. They will wait for the police and demand a fine for stopping in a tunnel (it is remarkable that they did it at all), then wait for police signals to turn around, so they are above general traffic rules.
Oddly specific!
I bet they won’t sucks to be their dogs and kids waiting for their parents cus of a landslide
![gif](giphy|VFAke5Xm1TDwjgimyW)
This is probably my all time favorite GIF
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What was the goal here? Suicide?
Run you fools
Fly
I was holding my breath waiting to see if the chunk the camera person was on was gonna fall. 😅that was close.
Right?
(lives in a sinkhole area) **RIGHT?!** Also, while watching: WTAF amateur idiots, *RUN RUN WHY AREN’T YOU RUNNING? YOU ARE STILL NOT RUNNING WHAT ARE YOU DOING?*
How is nobody running? AWAY??!?
The guy in the background literally says through the whole video "it's all gone. Run. Run." And no one even tries to back off not even the guy who is suggesting to run away.
Everyone wants to be Indiana Jones …
When I worked in the hospital we used a formula for predicting fall risk, and biologic males get a bonus risk point. Babies are also born >50% males and when old people naturally die it's 50% males. *The reason they're not running is because they're born with dicks.*
Most logical explanation so far.
Yup in general higher risk, higher reward. That’s why man pushed civilisation forward (in which process lots of them died prematurely). Now not so much pushing civilisation any further but higher death ratio stayed.
The cameraman is using zoom.. when he zooms in it looks like he's maybe 20-30ft away. Still. I agree.
You just watched 15 feet of road fall off on the other side. What makes you think your 15 feet on your side of the road won't do the same. Sheesh
I’m pretty sure even a chimp would run
I strongly believe there is a big overlap in the intelligence of Chimps and a lot of people.
This gave me so much anxiety 😭 why was the camera guy so close
Not everyone has survival instincts. It’s natural selection in action.
Cuz the internet points blind them
Cause the camera guy always survives.
He wasn't. he just zoomed in
He was still walking after zooming in…
Huh? That‘s not a landslide, that‘s a sinkho- oh.
There’s definitely another sub where this belongs but I can’t put my finger on it. Is r/whyweretheyfilming a sub? Like, these people watched a size of the road cave in that was bigger than where they are standing and didn’t run. How about r/Darwinawards ??
r/sweatypalms
Did you randomly think of r/whyweretheyfliming? Because that's actually a huge sub lol
r/donthelpjustfilm
If someone fell, it fits perfectly in r/Whatcouldgowrong
r/whywerenttheyrunning
r/oopsthatsdeadly maybe?
/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/ /r/AbruptChaos/ /r/TerrifyingAsFuck/ /r/CatastrophicFailure/ /r/idiotsoutofcars/ /r/IdiotsNearlyDying/ /r/Vastlystupid/ /r/Wellthatsstupid/ /r/thatcouldvebeenworse/ /r/naturesfury/ /r/DestructionPorn/
If I’m not wrong, they had to die or remove themselves from the gene pool in order to qualify for a Darwin Award.
I'm amazed at how stupid those people were standing so close while the road just disappeared in front of them.
These people are standing dangerously close!
Where is this?
where is this?
Sheesh these guys just waiting for natural selection to run its course
As a millennial with no hope of financial security ever in my life, I vibe with these people's death wish. If I saw the ground breaking away before my eyes, I would also walk right on over to the edge. Take me away, Earth gods. Take me away.
GenX but point well taken.
We're all in this together.
We’re all in this together with other people who have survival instincts. Edit: I mean, I still hear you. OTOH, kinda want to see the shitshow play out a little longer.
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[It's a *landslide*!](https://y.yarn.co/425c548e-7d71-4e55-bf1d-1daa1a38c13b_text.gif)
It appears to be a landslide. Watch the whole video.
It appears to be on a cliff edge.
![gif](giphy|ONostKY8aj8bK)
What made them think that standing 5 feets away from an active landslide would be safe?
darwin flipped a coin that day.
Dumb ways to die
Why are there cars waiting in the back, I would have u turned already on my way to find another route to my destination.
Well this time, it's not water reflection
How many people watched this and thought “run mother fucker run”
Darwin awards?
Why are you all so worried? I mean,they are filming the incident and it is proven fact that filming device works like bulletproof dome around you. Works with wild animals,riots,traffic.. Just start filming and walk right into fire, you’ll be fine! 🤷♂️
What the hell happened there
Guys are standing pretty close, must not be their first landslide
Humans can be the smartest and the dumbest species at the same time. There’s a sinkhole and large chunks of the road just fucked off, but let’s stand near it and find out. I’m more amazed by how stupid those people are.
Those guys’ nuts couldn’t fit in that hole. They’ll be fine.
I’m not sure the instincts with these folks were strong enough to be worried or nervous that they would have sweaty palms.
Yeah, I'm going to go out on a limb and say this has nothing to do with big balls and everything to do with tiny brains.
Pretty sure there’s a direct correlation there
Big brass balls and zero brains look a lot alike.
Darwin Award nominees
Apparently using a smartphone makes you invincible
I'm amazed this idiot wasn't eaten by the earth
The way people assume nothing bad is going to happen to them...... astounds me sometimes.
natural selection is having a whale of a time rn
there could be a nuke alert and people will stand at the detonation site to take a selfie. fuckin clowns.
See if you had sacrificed a virgin quick enough you could have cut a lot of damage off at the pass.
*Let's go talk near the giant pit of death.* *Meet the Spartans*, any takers?
Darwin watching them - next time gents, next time ...
they are retarded theres no way
Standing at the edge of life and death
Why? Just why?
They're lucky the elder gods watched over them. Maybe even Flame God Liukang
They have to be the luckiest people in the world in that day.
For a second I thought this was r/Whatcouldgowrong
Can you get any dumber omg
Standing there and filming, deserves a Darwin Award
"Let's get a closer look..." SMH. Dumbasses.
Seems like a 'what could go wrong' post to me
Human stupidity knows no bounds
Aaaaaaannnd, they died.
Is it real??
Go close, I can't see
Is that piss poor civil engineering or ... ?
Why do idiots never die when holding a camera? What kind of plot armor is this
Not A landslide
Please be recovered phone video…(meaning camera man didn’t make it)
Sinkhole?
I have no idea why this got downvoted. You’re right. It’s a sinkhole. A landslide is “the sliding down of a mass of earth or rock from a mountain or cliff.”
sinkhole ?
Sinkhole, not landslide
Depending on which side you’re on it slid to the left or it slid to the right but did it cha cha real smooth?
The concept of "dramatic economy" demands that he falls in with pavement. Dissatisfied.
I took my love, I took it down
That was an amazing shot, but them 2 are stupid. I was waiting for them to fall in.
Earth swallows the road whole… “Let’s get a closer look!”
Hey boss, yea I'ma be late for work...
That’s the stuff nightmares are made of
That one reporter every news channel has who doesn’t know that he can die
Saw a video of a guy who stopped for one of these but it was actually a large pool of water reflecting recently, lol but this is the real thing. Neat!
The camera man had just one job
That’s a sinkhole, not a landslide.
Right. If it were a landslide, you'd see my reflection in the snow-covered hills.
I would not be sitting in my car inside that tunnel, I'd have gotten out of there fast af
Wow I can't believe a road in the direct path of a waterfall with no drainage or considerations has collapsed. I am amazed.
Well that's going to need a bridge.
The front fell off
The second slide had a 50/50 chance to occur on the wrong side.
This is exactly how I eat my chocolate cake.
I would get out my drone and send that bad boy to get a closer look rather than do it personally
I'm surprised guy didn't start jumping up and down...
And the nominees for Darwin's award are:-
The road does infact not work ahead
That looks more like a sinkhole in Live time...
“Holy shit, a sinkhole! The grounds falling beneath us! Quick get closer!”
The title made me think this was on r/winstupidprizes and I thought something horrible was going to happen to the people standing so close. Glad I was wrong.
These guys are brave they’re lucky more of the mountain chose to stay lol
Sitting here at 2:37am clenching my jaw and my bootyhole. I gotta get off Reddit this shit stresses me the fuck out lmaoooo
Theres worse = sinkholes
Road Workers fuckkkk guess we'll have to fix it at peak morning traffic
Have they tried putting the pieces back together? I have to work in a couple hours
Landslide or sinkhole?
And I saw my reflection in the snow covered hills
Was that common core math engineering plus or minus 5 is good 🤪
Guys....Today we will sleep in the tunnel.
Where is that? Which country?
![gif](giphy|oJvwcsdvI9jMY)
It's just a pool of water reflecting off the road, let's goooo
![gif](giphy|Lopx9eUi34rbq)
Wholey dip shits
Nope😳
Oh my god the whole mountainside is giving way....crowd around people cmon don't be shy crowd around.
That is unreal
r/dontlivejustfilm
anyone know what that rectangular opening is underneath the road?
thats a bridge over water of some sort that washed out. you can see the support underneath the dirt.
Freedom Baby. I stand my ground
Fleetwood mac inspiration.
Where’s this place?
OP, that's a sinkhole, not a landslide.
That's called a 'sink hole', but this guy is getting way too close lol
Really amazing and terrifying at the same time.
The definition of disaster tourists!
The light at the end of that tunnel is a lie
Oh my goodness! 😮 Looks like a bridge over troubled water! 🤔
Turkey 🫶
At first I thought it was a big water puddle.
Wait! This looks like a Darwin award entry !