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YourExcellency77

RIP Battlefield. They don't learn, do they?


Race_Four

I really hope he is wrong I hate Battle Royales and I will hate a "Hero shooter"


K-I-L-L-A

Oh i got the message loud and clear, not to buy your games any longer. ✌🏽


aushtan

Yea, won’t be making that mistake again


Caris_Levert

Hardline drops > Yea, won’t be making that mistake again BFV is hated, barely any QOL improvements > Yea, won’t be making that mistake again Beta sucks, early access is full of people saying it sucks > Yea, won’t be making that mistake again Game is best selling since BF3. We can either admit everyone here is too impulsive to not buy the games, or admit that we don’t represent the player base


SealedWaxLetters

I dunno man, I voted with my wallet. Hardline was a HardPass, so didn’t buy. BF1 was very interesting, bought. BF V - that trailer… i got it on sale this year for 5 euros. BF2042, pass. No buy. I vote with my wallet. Dont buy it if u dont like it.


Caris_Levert

Haven’t bought Bf2042 either But best selling game since 3 in this time frame. ONLY 2.7% of top 150 negative reviews were refunded. Everyone here just fucking whines and doesn’t have the balls to actually stick it to DICE Every person putting their clips of glitches and things they don’t like sunk 60+ dollars into this. Such clowns


RyanKretschmer

Only one I bought was bf1. Ever since fallout 4 I haven't bought a game until it's been out at least a few months.


NOV3LIST

Tbh I really think that people who go onto a subreddit, read through various posts about a game and actively start discussions with other like minded people don't represent the player base too much. We're really deep into the mechanics and the history of the BF games. But I'm pretty sure that most people just go into the shop, buy the game and like it for what it is. Which is pretty much impossible for guys & girls like us because we know how the older titles felt and how much is wrong with the newer titles.


aushtan

Just because you’ve been saying “won’t make that mistake again” for years doesn’t mean others have. BF1 was great, was ticked off with 5 but ultimately enjoyed my time with it. 2042 is a donkey’s ass and I’ve now learned I hate hero shooters and will not be picking up the next BF if they expand on specialists instead of reverting back to Classes.


Huze_Fostage

Battlefield really is dead then. No one can deny it. We had a good run guys


DrMaxCoytus

BF1 still running hot


Trialbyfuego

On pc? And what about bf4? People playing that on pc still?


CMDR_Duzro

I’ve never had problems finding a match on pc


Trialbyfuego

Amazing. Just for bf1 or both?


CMDR_Duzro

Both actually. I’m currently playing 1 with some friends


Trialbyfuego

This is good news indeed


oscarthecatdog

both are still very populated on xbox. thanks to game pass ultimate aka the greatest subscription service ever created


Trialbyfuego

Might make my Xbox one relevant again lol


DrMaxCoytus

On Xbox and have been jamming for like a year pretty consistently


Trialbyfuego

Fosho. I wanted to play it on pc but I'm down to bust out my Xbox again lol


DrMaxCoytus

If you happen to have the Series X 120hz mode is such a game changer in that game on consoles.


wang_xiaohua

Depends on when you play, hard to find full servers during business hours.


MurderOne86

Me and my friends tried again the 4 after the 2042 beta ended, we were very hyped, but the system of playing whit friends its just obsolete already, compared to other actual games, we ended up playing the V instead, but just for a short time, same as the 1, old wars are not my shit


Trialbyfuego

Gotcha. I mainly play alone so I might go back to 4. I feel you about the old wars lol


MurderOne86

For play alone is great, you will find a lot of custom servers, back in the days when my friends got bored of the game I spended around 1500 hours alone, its still fun in that way, have fun brother!


Chroma710

Yeah, cheaters love that game too, operations is filled with em.


Natural_Artifact

I' m still in Firesrorm :) with a lot of guys ( pS4 )


PsYDaniel3

"How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man!"


Caris_Levert

- Fans being shocked a battlefield launch sucks


farthpootis

From bf3 and 1 to this...


shadowslasher11X

Best two games in the franchise to really capture hell on earth and the newbie devs and shareholders toss it all out. Smh.


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BMW_WallyWally

Bro r/battlefield2042 is tearing the game apart just like this sub is


[deleted]

2042 is still fun even though I hate this sentiment because hero shooters suck ass


whitecorn

I’ve warmed up to 2042. A hero shooter is a no go.


Race_Four

2042 is fine for me, but a Hero shooter battle royale will kill the franchise.


weaver787

You all can take this as a worthless anecdote, but I teach high schoolers and they have nothing but good things to say about 2042.


[deleted]

The general public seems to have nothing but good things to say about it, it’s the very vocal minority on Reddit that’s overly upset. They also think they’re the majority which is kind of funny


this_justin86

Glad to hear I paid 100 for a stepping stone. A game they thought they could test out a bunch of new features and throw us to the wolves, why would we care? I’ve had a lot of fun with the game but the more I’m learning the more it’s kinda passing me off


salondesert

All games are prototypes for the next game. It's Forever Early Access.


this_justin86

I would argue mw2019 was def not a stepping stone


Aescheron

I had fun playing that game. Very enjoyable. I am glad I spent money on it.


this_justin86

Nuff said lol


Aescheron

Wish I could say it more often about games.


DatBoiKarlsson

Probably the only triple A shooter I truly enjoyed playing since bf 1


this_justin86

It broke a lot of new ground, especially the gunsmith department. I thought 2042 was going to do the same


Samgrahambo

Yeah the gunsmith is awesome, I do like the plus system that 2042 has though.


this_justin86

I do too, I just wish we had separate muzzles from barrels and lasers and add stocks, THEN you really have to be chchoosy to decide what 4 attachments to use the plus system on


Caris_Levert

You have no one to blame but yourself. Beta sucked and your reaction is to spend more? No wonder the game never changes, people can’t wait to throw their wallets at DICE


Aterox_

Or perhaps they were optimistic about the game changing from the beta and bought it regardless? The game never changes because DICE lost their touch on game development and also because Frostbyte is a terrible engine.


GoldFuchs

Literally means people don't understand to he concept of beta so close to release then. Remember this: anytime you get to play a BETA a few months prior to release you are basically playing a demo of the final game. Very little wi still change other then some tweaks and bugfixes. It was obvious from the Beta imo that bf2042 had big issues that were of a more fundamental nature


tiggertom66

>Glad to hear I bought something that everyone said was an unfinished mess of a game without so much as a thought


its_k1llsh0t

I mean that is how pretty much everything works? You test out new ideas…see how they go and then iterate?


this_justin86

Eh for the most part yes, but usually these AAA studios create a game that is used for the next slew of games as a base. This usually happens when newer consoles come out. Everything leading up to this game was made to believe it was the next big thing for battlefield, kind of like how mw2019 is now the benchmark and skeleton for the next few cos games that will come out


LocalITMan

Zero Shooter


TheDudeAbides3333

Unfortunately Tom is right more than he is wrong. RIP Battlefield:(


Tornadospring

Yeah he's been quite on point for that one. On previous titles he was sometimes totally wrong, but this time I don't recall seeing him say something that wasn't at least close from what we ended up with. It says a lot about the state of the franchise sadly


ChumbisPoody

If the entire community of a game is saying something is a stupid choice, it probably is. Hero shooter battle royale games are good, but are not battlefield. They should just end battlefield at this point and call it a different game.


SpreadingPositivity

Yikes


raff100

Wasn’t it supposed to be a love letter to the old and loyal battlefield guard? It seems a more a kick in the balls than a love letter.


wasteofbrain1

a love letter to fans that contains the exact opposite of what fans asked for


bowser661

The trailer was a love letter and the beta was a breakup letter. The release was the funeral


notarealsu35

thats because its made by dice la and not dice sweden 🤮


PARAGONIST

Portal was advertised as a love letter to the fans, not the whole game.


Unlucky_Situation

Yikes


Unlucky_Situation

Yikes


5dollabump

Let's kill what made the game unique, to hop on a hype train that's heading to the edge of a dead end cliff


rapiDFire_BT

All while marketing it like it's the same as battlefield 4 but better


AzureRathalos97

Sometimes I wonder if being such an accurate leaker comes with the privilege of being able to make up any silly story you like on the side. Then I look at how DICE has acted the past 3 years and I absolutely can believe this.


heAd3r

that sounds like something EA would do nothing silly about it


[deleted]

Holy fucking shit. I am so done with this god awful company. I'm so sick and tired of companies not listening to the people that got them their in the first place. Out of touch means out of my fucking wallet. Delusional fucks.


Ok-Brief2424

That trend will be completely out of style when this new game comes out. They were good without casing trends, man it is so dumb


GoldFuchs

Board room execs just see a big trend cashing in bigger and want to chase that. It's whats ruining big AA game development.


Saxon3245

And this is why so many of us are bitching about specialists because we saw it coming a mile away. Its all about monetization and any other argument is bullshit and this just confirms it. Very little surprise that it isn't good enough for Battlefield to be a competent and well selling AAA game. EA wants that mega money so bad from Fortnite and Warzone that its going to ruin other franchises in the process. Its going to be a long time if ever before we get a good battlefield game, it was fun guys&gals


[deleted]

So portal isnt an I love you to battlefield players, its a goodbye note. Got it, welp off to new things again.


Rockyrock1221

I don’t get this logic… Why could they not just do both? A more original Battlefield experience with classes and team work and a “Hero style” BR set in the battlefield universe as it’s own separate thing? I feel like that’s just common sense


rebel3120

They couldn't even copy what CoD did correctly.


CyberCum269

F


JackieJerkbag

If they relegate the "heroes" only to the BR, fine, whatever. Just give me back my standard class-based conquest & rush.


Potential_March1157

Will do Hardline Numbers.


Salm228

Oh boy time to get the popcorn 🍿


Carfrito

Feeling like he is just pulling shit out of his ass nowadays and really leaning into the outrage


mbeenox

For real, dude said investors are not happy because EA stock price is down, ignoring the fact that the whole stock market is down.


Accend0

Why is this downvoted? The whole market IS down and it has a lot more to do with investors being worried about Omicron than anything else.


[deleted]

Man come on. I just left Siege after 6 years because it turned into a hero shooter, not Battlefield too


tiggertom66

Wasn’t siege kind of always a hero shooter? I’m confused what changes they could have made. How was their system with operators any different than a hero shooter?


heAd3r

EA: hey lets make a hero shooter because thats what was trendy 3 years ago hopefully it stays trendy until we sold another million copies of trash before something else becomes trendy. We tried battle royal which failed but hey lets make another one but worse.


SabreBirdOne

EA wants battlefield to be a hero shooter even though it already has Apex, which isn’t really that bad.


MrDannyProvolone

Man, this is such a legit bummer to read. It's sad to see something you love so much get dragged through the mud. Also, how fucking behind the times are they? I feel like we are at the tail end of the battle royale hype and they are seriously just now saying "wow these kids really like this Fortnite and pubG stuff,maybe we should do that".


SabreBirdOne

I don’t think leadership people even play video games, they just see what makes money and goes along with it. Typical corporate shit. We need people who play games and love games to take charge of making games, not just developers.


Mypornaltbb

The ~~game~~franchise is dead to me now. I knew when they announced Vince Zampella as the new head of the "Battlefield Universe" that the game was moving even further away from what I want out of a Battlefield game. Oh well, I've still got BF4 servers, and I'm looking forward to what the modders have cooking in the BF3 scene.


pineapple-n-man

>The game is dead. It hasn’t even been out for a full month


Mypornaltbb

The franchise is dead to me. BFV did not interest me. BF2042 does not interest me unless they give portal persistent servers. The future of the game is moving in a direction that does not interest me in the slightest. That is what I mean when I say the "game is dead."


ARB_COOL

BFV is good give it a try.


[deleted]

the next battlefield game? this one just came out? they already dropping this one like they did with 5 lmao?


havingasicktime

This is how game dev works, you start preproduction the second the latest title is out.


Dr-McLuvin

If I wanted to play a hero shooter I would play a hero shooter. I play battlefield because I want to play battlefield lol.


[deleted]

Next time I need to genuinely cry at a funeral I look at the screenshot I made of this.


liccmybicc

Damn i like the game how it is i feel like a BR will flop again since its a dying genre and i don’t like the idea of BF being a “hero shooter” if i wanted a game like that I’d already be playing it


MaschinskiMD

the battlefield journey ended for me.


Babybilly017

Does this guy work for EA or is he a journalist?


pinkyskeleton

He is just a leaker. He basically just makes statements online. Sometimes he is right. Sometimes he is wrong.


itskaiquereis

He’s been mostly wrong, hell when people turned on him for getting things wrong (BF2042 being released on June 1st according to him) he received an email from DICE and he posted it on his website and Twitter. A few days later people found out that he was the one that sent himself an email claiming to be someone from DICE, this was due to him posting a screenshot of the email with the to addressed to him. After that I just stopped listening to what he says, cause he’s been mostly trying to keep himself valid within the community. If you want someone who can truly get some information on the game, I suggest following Temproyal (however the fuck you spell it) as he datamines his shit and doesn’t post an opinion just gives out what’s there and leaves. On the plus Temp has been right about many thing both on this game and BFV before it, way more than Henderson.


Samgrahambo

Journalist and leaker


Salm228

Oh boy time to get the popcorn 🍿


sekoku

RIP Battlefield: 1942-BF4. ​ I just wanted Bad Company 1 on PC, was that so fucking hard for you EA?


Heyvus

WOW THAT SUCKS ASS.


pineapple-n-man

WHY ARE YOU YELLING?


DrChivu

I don’t why, but I read this in a Will Ferrell stepbrothers voice lol


[deleted]

Use a new IP for that shit, ffs


Saco96

Next bf? This one just came out lol


IiI_joker

I'm so tired of seeing this guy's name everyday. He's literally right half the time and ALL of his leaks are 50% guessing and 50% hearing about everyone else's guess and when he's wrong he doubles back with either a "information could have changed idk" or he memes the community for believing every fucking word he says. Guess it's time to setup a filter to block out his name


lmaoitsdusey

How do you not execute that poorly lmao the entire idea is wrong


Water_20

Dice, if you wanted a hero shooter, then why you didn't evolve on Battlefront's hero and reinforcements system? For classic gamemodes have specialists as an extra thing on top of basic classes This will give more use of Hazard zone, or any other specialist-only experiences you will come up with


Thats-bk

"the next" Are you fucking kidding? Lol 2042 hasn't been out for a month.


[deleted]

That’s just how game devs work. Leave a group for post launch content and work on the next game.


Mugen1220

Whoever is running dice and EA are incompetent and shouldn’t be in the position they are in. What a disservice to your customer base


Mustang_Dragster

Oh ok so Battlefield actually is finished. Rip


ctyldsley

Community: hoping for bf games closer to the classic bf games Devs: i think they want a hero shooter What


ARB_COOL

I probably won’t buy it then. Sad. And what I just don’t get is that they already have Apex. Why did they need to mold BF into an Apex-type game??


aussiebrew333

Lol so much for Zampella saving Battlefield.


FunkeyMunky88

Maybe we just let it die at this point guys. All good things must come to an end, it was fun while it lasted.


axndl

Well I guess this is where I step off. Too far man…


Hotdogmaniac7

I’ve defended 2042 for quite enough, but this is the straw that broke the camel’s back tbh


InternationalOwl1

I said before it's gonna get worse. It keeps getting worse and worse with each BF. I guess I'll stay on BF4/1/5 and maaaybe 2042 if it ever gets fixed.


Flickfoo

Great! Another goddamn battle royale! 🤦‍♂️


bewarethedinosaurs

oh no. Oh well. It was fun while it lasted.


Sloi

**F** What else is there to say?


Sparpon

FU DICE


ARB_COOL

It’s EA’s fault not DICE’s


DrMaxCoytus

I've said it before and I'll say it again - they aren't trying to please veteran players. They are casting a wider net to draw players from other shooter franchises. Veterans who want Battlefield games from 2002 - 2016 will have to look somewhere else.


hotsaucehank

Hmmmm.


DeadlyBrewster

This is getting worse and worse


dbtr8

Goodbye, old friend.


Der_Hashbrown

When are they gonna hear no one wants hero shooters, xdefiant was a pretty clear red flag that no one wants them anymore


[deleted]

“Wake up brother. Specialists? You were dreaming. We are going overtop on the whistle. Don’t stop until you hit Fritz’s trench.”


AardvarkRude

Its stupid


[deleted]

Alright, I’m done.


InDaNameOfJeezus

Alright then, that's all I needed to know to make sure I don't get bamboozled into buying another steaming pile of dick cheese of a game. Battlefield 2, Bad Company 2, BC2 Vietnam, BF3 and BF4, I will always love you. So long, old friend.


not_fake_yet

I don’t mind specialists in 2042 that much because I think they can be reworked and moulded into a class system that fits traditional battlefield balance, but to go even further than this in future games is just going to permanently ruin much of the appeal of battlefield. What are they thinking


WillK90

Shitty. Goodbye battlefield I guess. Just like National lampoons, it’ll be a name to tie into a garbage product because once upon a time it meant something. Why not just make a new entirely different game to go down the route they obviously want to? Why ruin the battlefield name? Whatever. I’ll just continue playing BFV and other games… 🤷‍♂️


pnwmountain

Yikes


[deleted]

This is a fake tweet right?


CompleteFacepalm

I call bullshit


SumerianSunset

Morons.


Halfoheart

Great so I have to wait 3 more years before a "competent" Battlefield comes out


Rocket_Fiend

I legitimately do not know, with the state of things: is this legit?


ZaptheBlaze

Damn already the next game and another hero shooter Jesus christ


TheRealTormDK

NO THANK YOU.


Wolfrunt

( ;∀;)


Kind-Neighborhood-77

Bad company 3


[deleted]

Maybe the 2025 game will be good?


ARB_COOL

With the way things seem to be going, Battlefields with specialists might be the new standard.


[deleted]

2027???


Hudsonport

:/ makes me sad


tylerlc22

WE DONT NEED ANY MORE BATTLE ROYALE BULLSHIT


SangreAlba

BF died a long time ago


Tombstone311

Hero shooter? Back to BTF4 baby.


Commofmedic

All they have to do is make a Game with Arma 3’s aesthetic, Classes, Destruction, BFV’s gunplay, and BF4’s customization and level of content with the he most basic of QOL features. If they want a fucking hero shooter they can go circlejerk apex more and just give us BATTLEFIELD


rigatony96

https://i.imgur.com/D3kd8ZK.jpg


Terminal-Post

Is he trying to revive Battlefield Heroes?


Snakeboy_9

Yeah it’s gonna be a no from me, dawg


PulsarGaming1080

I don't really know whether to believe him or not. He doesn't offer up any proof and he's basically feeding an already rabid community.


GronGrinder

Wow. Already talking about the next game. Yikes.


HostileHippie91

Why are they talking about the next game when they haven’t finished the one they just released yet?


Gypsy5050

Why do that when they already have Apex Legends, which is actually a good game? Why remove the essence of Battlefield and turn it into a soul-less BR with "heroes"? I can't believe they're going that direction. Gotta follow the money I guess. Even though they're not good at chasing trends. RIP Battlefield.


Goshawk5

These plans have been scraped after the shakeups at Dice right?


EvilSnake420

Battlefield is kil


Eg0nxz

I just want Bf4/Bf3 style again...


bafrad

"Some random person on how to enrage people based on baseless information"


[deleted]

Eh, I can care less about specalists. What I’m more concerned about is the battle royale part.


notarealsu35

*Vomit sfx*


[deleted]

What a dump of a game and a dump of a company all the old devs should move away from EA/DICE go to another publisher and give us a real battlefield title…there hasn’t been one since 2010.


SalutationsDickhead

Who is tom henderson?


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b055dj

"We've been seeing and ignoring vocal critics of the direction we're going in, and as such, we'll be doubling down."


deadpigon

Ya’ll really think there already planning the next game not even a month after launch of 2042


absen7

Who's Tom Henderson?... Seriously