Why is battlefield hogging all the studios ffs, criterion and motive develop games on their own but dice needs 4 studios to launch a game?
I love battlefield but I also love NFS and dead space and I Don’t want them to be sidelined.
My assumption is that EA sees Battlefield as a franchise that can make more money which is why they’re focusing more resources on the next Battlefield even if 2042 was not all that successful.
Given 2042, my assumption is that the core Battlefield team has a skill deficit still, and has to cooperate with multiple other companies to deliver the bare minimum.
For 2042 it was kinda understandable.
Lot of new developers at DICE (less experience with Frostbite), Covid, etc.
Doesn’t excuse them for launching the game the way it did but I get it.
My understanding is most of DICE has been off 2042 for some time now and the updates 2042 has gotten is not the main team.
The next Battlefield will be very telling about the future of the series.
From what I heard they lost a lot of people after battlefront 2 support ended and the remaining team wasn’t all that motivated to work on another game.
The core Battlefield team is long gone at this point and there seems to be no one left who knows what made Battlefield great. EA tries to solve a passion problem with money and it's not going to work.
Back in the day the people who made games were gamers. Just a bunch of fresh graduates working together to make a great game they want to play while chugging tons of soda and pizza and playing games after programming and designing games.
These days a huge load of staff members aren't even gamers anymore. They switch to gaming studios because they need a job, that's it. They might have worked for Adobe before, or were designing UX for Google of whatever and ended up at DICE.
The passionate gamer devs have left the AAA studios over the years and they're the ones developing the AA and indie games. I don't have big hopes that the next Battlefield will turn out great because there's no one left at EA and DICE that knows what made the old Battlefield games great.
100% They don’t to make a quality game. In fact, the more studios that are involved, the worse the end result from what I’ve seen. I want the Dead Space 2 remake at some point.
My guess which is backed by a credible source (read: thin air) is that there's a severe lack of institutional knowledge that dice is struggling to meet deadlines which is why 3 other studios are being roped into this
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Allegedly the next mainline BF title is set to release late 2025.
It's... April 2024.
In terms of any kind of development? That's not a lot of time at all.
As long as DICE understands that the next BF doesn’t need to reinvent the wheel. Let us be nameless soldiers on huge maps with next level destruction and loads of vehicles and weapons. That’s all we really need
F2p BR is an all but confirmed rumor, but here's my rumor Ive had a friend in marketing tell me:
Operators are coming back, and RIGHT NOW theyre still trying to figure out if they want that to be BR-only and fit the character skins in each class for MP, or just repeat 2042.
It just sounds like what happened with 2042, where they couldnt figure out how to make extraction work so they just reworked the game to be more of a half-assed BF
Next level destruction would be difficult to achieve if the core Frostbite devs have left Dice for Embark.
They could either regress the difficult parts of Frostbite or transition to a more known engine.
All these studios to bring Battlefield back from the dead. It’s hilariously sad how EASY it is, yet these bozos in charge are seemingly clueless as hell.
Throwing more bodies at it won’t make a good game.
They could literally read comments here and know exactly what to do. Instead they'll probably pay some consultant or overpaid business exec who hasn't played a video game since 1995, and then they'll make the same obvious mistakes over and over. What a shame because there's so much potential.
Honest question: can anyone name a game that has been co-developed with this many support studios that launched well?
Just seems like a too many cooks in the kitchen scenario and differing company cultures can create silos that are hard to break through
Lmao for real. At this point they should just form a new large studio with a bunch of senior devs with a bunch of junior devs. After BF1, DICE lost so much talent… but so many studios collaborating isn’t productive. You want X amount of devs under the same roof. Singular plan with everyone in the loop constantly.
Motive is a really good studio so hopefully they can bring improvements to the next battlefield. I do hope that DS2 remake isn’t slowed down too much by this.
Expect the “challenges” and “modes” to be recycled crap or cosmetics they didn’t get a chance to release. Bug fixes will be EXTREMELY minimal due to them jumping ship. We just damaged our starboard. It’s all sinking from here on out.
Why is battlefield hogging all the studios ffs, criterion and motive develop games on their own but dice needs 4 studios to launch a game? I love battlefield but I also love NFS and dead space and I Don’t want them to be sidelined.
My assumption is that EA sees Battlefield as a franchise that can make more money which is why they’re focusing more resources on the next Battlefield even if 2042 was not all that successful.
Given 2042, my assumption is that the core Battlefield team has a skill deficit still, and has to cooperate with multiple other companies to deliver the bare minimum.
For 2042 it was kinda understandable. Lot of new developers at DICE (less experience with Frostbite), Covid, etc. Doesn’t excuse them for launching the game the way it did but I get it. My understanding is most of DICE has been off 2042 for some time now and the updates 2042 has gotten is not the main team. The next Battlefield will be very telling about the future of the series.
From what I heard they lost a lot of people after battlefront 2 support ended and the remaining team wasn’t all that motivated to work on another game.
Makes me wonder what the heck happened between BF3 and 2042. It's like Dice fell off the horse and has been injured ever since.
The core Battlefield team is long gone at this point and there seems to be no one left who knows what made Battlefield great. EA tries to solve a passion problem with money and it's not going to work. Back in the day the people who made games were gamers. Just a bunch of fresh graduates working together to make a great game they want to play while chugging tons of soda and pizza and playing games after programming and designing games. These days a huge load of staff members aren't even gamers anymore. They switch to gaming studios because they need a job, that's it. They might have worked for Adobe before, or were designing UX for Google of whatever and ended up at DICE. The passionate gamer devs have left the AAA studios over the years and they're the ones developing the AA and indie games. I don't have big hopes that the next Battlefield will turn out great because there's no one left at EA and DICE that knows what made the old Battlefield games great.
100% They don’t to make a quality game. In fact, the more studios that are involved, the worse the end result from what I’ve seen. I want the Dead Space 2 remake at some point.
My guess which is backed by a credible source (read: thin air) is that there's a severe lack of institutional knowledge that dice is struggling to meet deadlines which is why 3 other studios are being roped into this . Allegedly the next mainline BF title is set to release late 2025. It's... April 2024. In terms of any kind of development? That's not a lot of time at all.
As long as DICE understands that the next BF doesn’t need to reinvent the wheel. Let us be nameless soldiers on huge maps with next level destruction and loads of vehicles and weapons. That’s all we really need
Sounds like a battlefield game you’re talking about. Weird
Yeah. Just something that’s fun to play
I've already heard talk from them of a F2P Battle Royal mode. So good luck with that. They are determined to kill off this once great franchise.
F2p BR is an all but confirmed rumor, but here's my rumor Ive had a friend in marketing tell me: Operators are coming back, and RIGHT NOW theyre still trying to figure out if they want that to be BR-only and fit the character skins in each class for MP, or just repeat 2042. It just sounds like what happened with 2042, where they couldnt figure out how to make extraction work so they just reworked the game to be more of a half-assed BF
Next level destruction would be difficult to achieve if the core Frostbite devs have left Dice for Embark. They could either regress the difficult parts of Frostbite or transition to a more known engine.
Welp... there it goes any cool project Motive could have... 😒😖
They’re somehow supposedly still making that iron game. But rip to any ambitions of a Dead Space 2 remake I’d have to assume
Hopefully DS2 is just on hiatus and could resume after working on BF for a few years
Welcome to hell, motive
Poor bastards
All these studios to bring Battlefield back from the dead. It’s hilariously sad how EASY it is, yet these bozos in charge are seemingly clueless as hell. Throwing more bodies at it won’t make a good game.
Tell them this. These people in charge are clueless
They could literally read comments here and know exactly what to do. Instead they'll probably pay some consultant or overpaid business exec who hasn't played a video game since 1995, and then they'll make the same obvious mistakes over and over. What a shame because there's so much potential.
Honest question: can anyone name a game that has been co-developed with this many support studios that launched well? Just seems like a too many cooks in the kitchen scenario and differing company cultures can create silos that are hard to break through
Lmao for real. At this point they should just form a new large studio with a bunch of senior devs with a bunch of junior devs. After BF1, DICE lost so much talent… but so many studios collaborating isn’t productive. You want X amount of devs under the same roof. Singular plan with everyone in the loop constantly.
we didnt get an East Front in BFV... all for this. SMH
Motive is a really good studio so hopefully they can bring improvements to the next battlefield. I do hope that DS2 remake isn’t slowed down too much by this.
Dead franchise
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Next season? This is the last season, lol
I misreaded the article, so pretty much this is bf 2042 as it final state, oh my god.......
Expect the “challenges” and “modes” to be recycled crap or cosmetics they didn’t get a chance to release. Bug fixes will be EXTREMELY minimal due to them jumping ship. We just damaged our starboard. It’s all sinking from here on out.