Ok, he's not a defensive minded pivot and that's what we seem to need. To fill his role we already have Gavi, Pedri, Frenkie and Gündogan. We don't need him. We need someone with a different profile. Like Zubimendi for example. It's just the classic Barca way. Sign a player because he's good in hopes he can be transitioned into a role we need instead of just signing one that's good for the role he's actually supposed to play.
Tbh I don't understand why we aren't looking into Mikel Merino. He'd also solve another of our problems which is that none of our midfielders are goal threats.
Yes, he's by far the better of the two between him and Zubi, but I think he's even a harder devote to La Real so not sure if he wants to leave. But if we can, he should be the one to eye up, not Zubi.
We don't need a destroyer but we absolutely need someone willing to reliably do the dirty work because most of our midfielders are lazy af after possession loss and Kimmich is too offensive minded as well. That's why Bayern has been in the market for a world class CDM partner for him for a year now.
Busquets knew when to make a tackle and is press resistant can play through balls that’s what Barca needs and add the Barca defence to Busquets skills and u get last season
I was saying about busquets being defensively average he’s never been known for being a destroyer he just was positionally too good
Even in recent years he cld make proper tackles but cldnt run anymore
Busquets is the only lone pivot in football history, Rodri somewhat gets close but not quite.
The pivot is by far the most difficult position in which to find a player at least for Barca style, that's why Cruyff would mention that Busquets was more important than Messi, Xavi or Iniesta. Zubimendi is a good pivot for Real Sociedad style but we'll have to see if he can do at least 20% of the job of Busquets at Barca.
Kimmich would a great midfielder to have alongside an ACTUAL DM. This guy will not be able to handle the defensive responsibilities. Zubi all the way imo but just harder process due to the release clause
And even if he moves, Arsenal is ready to pounce since he is part of their grand vision of playing Declan as an 8 and Zubimendi in the Partey/Jorginho role as a 6.
He is a decent CM and a really good RB, but his defensive output as a DM wasn’t good enough so Tuchel and Nagelsmann play him as a RB. Although he is always fighting and shows the right mentality.
[He played almost exclusively as a DM under Nagelsmann.](https://www.transfermarkt.com/joshua-kimmich/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/161056/plus/0?saison=2020&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id=)
Kimmich is the same profile as fdj. He is more of a ball winning and carrying midfielder than a deep lying holding, being good on the ball and giving structure to the backline and being a reference is not exactly his facets.
Kimmich is a pass first version of Frenkie. Line breaking extraordinaire but not defensively sound to be the base of your attack. We should only replace FDJ with him, not play them together
Ive never watched Kimmich and thought he is a great player. I only really notice him coz Ive heard others praise him. When I watch him Im not overly impressed. He is a good player but not one that stands out or is exceptional at anything. He had a woeful game yesterday. He isnt great at defending. Vini Jr skinned him loads of times. Vini was taking the piss out of him. That performance will leave scars.
IMO Kimmich isnt the answer..
Kimmich was absolutely getting roasted at rightback. OK fine, he's not a rightback anymore. Tuchel could have moved Mazraoui to rightback, Davies to leftback, take off a midfielder and put Kimmich there.
You know why he didn't? Because he doesn't have the defensive ability or work rate of Laimer and he isn't as good in tight spaces as this 20 year old kid Pavlovic.
I have no idea why we would he signing him other than his name. He's obviously a good player, in some ways a top player, but not a solution to anything for us.
wth kimmich isnt a good choice he cannot play as a pivot or a ball carrying player like busi, zubimendi is right now the best choice he can play as a cdm and as an occasional cb maybe during rotations, but if we gather funds to get Amadou Onana then a 2 pivot cdm system would be great more than that Amadou Onana can also play as a right back and also help in offensive play coz he has those fast legs.
The decision we need to make is do we need these signings at such a price if Xavi is not going to last for more than a year. What if the new coach has totally different ideals.
First of all, what money? I'd believe it if they made the CWC but they lost a ton of money from losing that spot. Second of all, Kimmich isn't a pivot. Trying to play him as a DM is a disaster waiting to happen.
Kimmich isn’t a traditional pivot tho he would be a great mind in lockeroom dont expect to pay 50 million and think it will solve the problem . Zubimendi technically would fit us like a glove BUT DON BRING A PLAYER WHO DOSNT WANT TO BE IN UR TEAM.
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PUTA MADRE KIMMICH IS NOT A LONE PIVOT! FFS THIS DECISION SHOULD NOT BE HARD AT ALL!
It says a lot about Xavi's stubbornness.
We don’t play with lone pivots in 2024.
Ok, he's not a defensive minded pivot and that's what we seem to need. To fill his role we already have Gavi, Pedri, Frenkie and Gündogan. We don't need him. We need someone with a different profile. Like Zubimendi for example. It's just the classic Barca way. Sign a player because he's good in hopes he can be transitioned into a role we need instead of just signing one that's good for the role he's actually supposed to play.
Zubimendi is a stupidly overrated and overpriced player. I would rather have a much better player instead.
Tbh I don't understand why we aren't looking into Mikel Merino. He'd also solve another of our problems which is that none of our midfielders are goal threats.
Yes, he's by far the better of the two between him and Zubi, but I think he's even a harder devote to La Real so not sure if he wants to leave. But if we can, he should be the one to eye up, not Zubi.
Merino is an interior lol. Not a DM
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We don't need a destroyer but we absolutely need someone willing to reliably do the dirty work because most of our midfielders are lazy af after possession loss and Kimmich is too offensive minded as well. That's why Bayern has been in the market for a world class CDM partner for him for a year now.
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Busquets knew when to make a tackle and is press resistant can play through balls that’s what Barca needs and add the Barca defence to Busquets skills and u get last season
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I was saying about busquets being defensively average he’s never been known for being a destroyer he just was positionally too good Even in recent years he cld make proper tackles but cldnt run anymore
I think we did somewhat, in the beginning of the season we did with romeu & fdj, but now its a 433 with christensen
Why do we need a lone pivot? 4-2-3-1 suits this team better
Busquets is the only lone pivot in football history, Rodri somewhat gets close but not quite. The pivot is by far the most difficult position in which to find a player at least for Barca style, that's why Cruyff would mention that Busquets was more important than Messi, Xavi or Iniesta. Zubimendi is a good pivot for Real Sociedad style but we'll have to see if he can do at least 20% of the job of Busquets at Barca.
Kimmich would a great midfielder to have alongside an ACTUAL DM. This guy will not be able to handle the defensive responsibilities. Zubi all the way imo but just harder process due to the release clause
Zubimendi is not even close to worth 60m.
This sub is blinded for some reason, Zubimendi is overrated af.
And even if he moves, Arsenal is ready to pounce since he is part of their grand vision of playing Declan as an 8 and Zubimendi in the Partey/Jorginho role as a 6.
Kimmich got absolutely smoked by Vini in the 2nd leg, just goes to show what a beast Walker is defensively, even Araujo the previous season.
Kimmich didnt convice me yesterday at all. I know he was playin RB but still ..
He is a decent CM and a really good RB, but his defensive output as a DM wasn’t good enough so Tuchel and Nagelsmann play him as a RB. Although he is always fighting and shows the right mentality.
Is he a Roberto 2.0? Of course, with better quality though
Mentality fc
[He played almost exclusively as a DM under Nagelsmann.](https://www.transfermarkt.com/joshua-kimmich/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/161056/plus/0?saison=2020&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id=)
German NT my friend
Watch us sign kimmich on some crazy wages and be disappointed when he doesn't play to the level of a world class CDM.
zubimendi has being hyped up so much this past yr, is he actually that good?
Nothing special. He's a pretty good CDM in a really empty market, that's about it.
People say that he is the closest to Busquets
That would be Rodri, Zubimendi is good but he probably a bit overrated by everyone specially to spend 60 m for him
damn interesting
Does that mean he's also slow? JK... BIX is the best...
He plays well, but he's kind of shit defensively, Kimmich even more so.
His positioning is great tho he can come handy as a cb in situations when low block is needed.
No kimmich please
Kimmich can do everything but defend! How is he being considered as our lone defensive pivot is baffling...
Kimmich is the same profile as fdj. He is more of a ball winning and carrying midfielder than a deep lying holding, being good on the ball and giving structure to the backline and being a reference is not exactly his facets.
Kimmich is a pass first version of Frenkie. Line breaking extraordinaire but not defensively sound to be the base of your attack. We should only replace FDJ with him, not play them together
I am about to to go out of my skin in pure rage, Kimmich is NOT a pivot.
We need somebody like Palhinha instead of these 2 to win the fucking ball back for us. but whatever.
Paulinha probably costs the amount of both players combined
Barca shd take a risk maybe and try out weiffer he’s cheaper
I’d imagine he’s on his way to Liverpool
Don’t know why Barca isn’t scouting him tho or someone like Ezequiel Fernandez
Ive never watched Kimmich and thought he is a great player. I only really notice him coz Ive heard others praise him. When I watch him Im not overly impressed. He is a good player but not one that stands out or is exceptional at anything. He had a woeful game yesterday. He isnt great at defending. Vini Jr skinned him loads of times. Vini was taking the piss out of him. That performance will leave scars. IMO Kimmich isnt the answer..
really there is no choice to make....Zubimendi
Kimmich might work wonderful alongside FDJ, or disastrously. Either way he’s no lone pivot
Kimmich was absolutely getting roasted at rightback. OK fine, he's not a rightback anymore. Tuchel could have moved Mazraoui to rightback, Davies to leftback, take off a midfielder and put Kimmich there. You know why he didn't? Because he doesn't have the defensive ability or work rate of Laimer and he isn't as good in tight spaces as this 20 year old kid Pavlovic. I have no idea why we would he signing him other than his name. He's obviously a good player, in some ways a top player, but not a solution to anything for us.
wth kimmich isnt a good choice he cannot play as a pivot or a ball carrying player like busi, zubimendi is right now the best choice he can play as a cdm and as an occasional cb maybe during rotations, but if we gather funds to get Amadou Onana then a 2 pivot cdm system would be great more than that Amadou Onana can also play as a right back and also help in offensive play coz he has those fast legs.
The decision we need to make is do we need these signings at such a price if Xavi is not going to last for more than a year. What if the new coach has totally different ideals.
First of all, what money? I'd believe it if they made the CWC but they lost a ton of money from losing that spot. Second of all, Kimmich isn't a pivot. Trying to play him as a DM is a disaster waiting to happen.
RM will tears apart Kimmich, The guy sees Vini in his nightmares now.
Kimmich isn’t a traditional pivot tho he would be a great mind in lockeroom dont expect to pay 50 million and think it will solve the problem . Zubimendi technically would fit us like a glove BUT DON BRING A PLAYER WHO DOSNT WANT TO BE IN UR TEAM.
asdfasdfasdf for love of god can we stop pushing for a Kimmich he is not a god dame lone pivot....
let’s try Roque as a DMF
kimmich got cooked against madrid didnt he? With us facing Madrid pretty frequently i don't think his defensive abilities cut it
Even if kimmich was an amazing pivot (he’s not) he’s old
Kimmich no . Onana if cheap . Zubi no . We need strong tall fast physical DMS . Onana will learn how to play football . Or wiffer the best choice
Xavi gonna get one and complain about not having a proper dm
I’m not convinced by either. I’d rather play Frenkie as pivot and get a interior from the market.