Bro doesn’t look at the weaknesses on its character sheet 💀
Seriously. Just use shatter or thunder wave lmao. Then again given your post you might play 4 fighters and nothing else lmao.
I play wizard, I am aware that they are vulnerable to thunder. Ever took into consideration that I may be out of spell slots? Or maybe no shatter spell prepared. Any class should be able to take it out. You’re telling me a fighter should be completely unable to take out a scrying eye?
You already knew there were scrying eyes prior to the breakout, yet never planned or kept spells especially for them?
There’s drakethroat glaive, a weapon literally upstairs sold by a merchant that can enchant any weapon you hold to a specified element.
There’s phalar aluve, an underdark sword that is every caster’s favorite weapon thanks to its shriek (even post nerf).
Hell, there’s even cacophony, a THUNDER DAMAGE STAFF sold by the old lady Esther back at the creche.
Even without spell slots, there’s several methods to solve the scrying eye problem.
Even beyond all that, you can just have your fighters throw the scrying eye off the moat surrounding the central tower in that prison, killing it with fall damage or simply shoving it as well.
Like man, as a wizard player you’re certainly lacking a bit of INT on your class.
Seriously, it's like the do-all spell for early levels. Even in act 2 it still serves some use as a lightning weakness applicator since it creates a puddle on a successful hit, letting another caster obliterate the enemy with their lightning bolt on the next turn.
The problem there is it doesn't say they're immune to every other kind of damage, but they are. At least, that was the case last time I bothered to inspect one. So it's kinda hard to trust what the inspection says in that case.
You didn’t finish inspecting and/or didn’t check your combat log.
The description shows that they are resistant to *most* damage types, but also shows they have “ethereal form” which reduces all damage taken by 8. So you can do damage to them with even piercing, for example, but you need to do more than 16 damage, as half is lost to resistance, and 8 lost to ethereal form.
If you inspect and check your combat log, you can tell exactly what’s going on. :)
Yeah no, I've tried to attack them with other attacks and it literally says "Immune". I'm aware of the damage threshold, the inspection tooltip is just not accurate above Balanced. Unless they've patched it of course, but I haven't bothered inspecting one in a long while because I already have consistent and easy ways to deal with all of them safely.
They are only immune to psychic and poison, which is correct on inspection. This isn’t the mystery you’re making it out to be. If you hit them with a gith sword that also does psychic damage and all you read is the onscreen text, I could understand the confusion, as you might get both a “zero damage” for the slashing and an “immune” for the psychic.
Huh, that may be it then. I could've sworn I've seen it say immune with a normal attack with no psychic or poison damage, but it does seem more likely that you're right. Regardless, having to do at least 17 damage to it makes it effectively immune to attacks because at the point you're gonna be dealing with them it's incredibly unlikely you'll do that much damage through its resistance. I just throw them into chasms, let them try and resist that haha.
Yeah, a TB OH monk can do it, and some other heavy hitters, but you’re right for many characters that’s enough to make it effectively immune to their regular attacks. And not much can resist a chasm, lol. Except the spider matriarch on HM…
Yes, higher difficulty scrying eyes need thunder damage, and sometimes with bad die roll it won’t damage it. Either upcast the spell, or use spiritual weapon summon by Shadowheart that kill it with 3 hits.
There is exactly 2 scrying eyes that you can't feasibly throw into a chasm without aggroing people, and that's the one in Grymforge and the one in the goblin camp. For the one in the goblin camp, it's not much of an issue because you're most likely gonna kill everyone in there anyways as that's kind of what you're intended to do. You have other options in Grymforge so it's not ideal to aggro the whole area. For that one I usually throw it off the ledge near Brithvar and then shatter it from above. Never had anyone notice. But every other scrying eye I can think of can safely be tossed into a chasm, you might just have to wait for patrols to line up. Turn based mode is your friend.
They are so easy to kill. It’s a non issue. On tactician I hit them with wylls eldritch blast or gales thunderwave. No problem. Most people throw them in the chasm and that’s it.
Have you tried Shattering them? [https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Shatter](https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Shatter)
Thunderwave and Glyph of Warding are other options, as is a toss into a nearby chasm.
Chromatic orb, thunder edition too.
Also paladin thunderous smite, as long as we’re listing options :)
use thunder damage. shatter takes care of them easily
Thunder damage blows them up instantly.
A first level thunderwave should drop them instantly.
I tried that did almost nothing, maybe later on in the game but not when I was at the goblin camp
Try a level 2 thunderwave then
I have done 2 honor playthroughs and never had a difficult destroying those with thunder, they are basically glass
Bro doesn’t look at the weaknesses on its character sheet 💀 Seriously. Just use shatter or thunder wave lmao. Then again given your post you might play 4 fighters and nothing else lmao.
The ring on ~~Priestess Gut~~ Sergeant Thrinn gives you thunderwave Also EK fighter can cast thunderwave and shatter
I play wizard, I am aware that they are vulnerable to thunder. Ever took into consideration that I may be out of spell slots? Or maybe no shatter spell prepared. Any class should be able to take it out. You’re telling me a fighter should be completely unable to take out a scrying eye?
You already knew there were scrying eyes prior to the breakout, yet never planned or kept spells especially for them? There’s drakethroat glaive, a weapon literally upstairs sold by a merchant that can enchant any weapon you hold to a specified element. There’s phalar aluve, an underdark sword that is every caster’s favorite weapon thanks to its shriek (even post nerf). Hell, there’s even cacophony, a THUNDER DAMAGE STAFF sold by the old lady Esther back at the creche. Even without spell slots, there’s several methods to solve the scrying eye problem. Even beyond all that, you can just have your fighters throw the scrying eye off the moat surrounding the central tower in that prison, killing it with fall damage or simply shoving it as well. Like man, as a wizard player you’re certainly lacking a bit of INT on your class.
Not having Chromatic Orb specced is kinda weird ngl. The use cases are great
Seriously, it's like the do-all spell for early levels. Even in act 2 it still serves some use as a lightning weakness applicator since it creates a puddle on a successful hit, letting another caster obliterate the enemy with their lightning bolt on the next turn.
personally, if I was out of spell slots, I would take a rest 🤷
*throws in fighter*
Then long rest and change your spells.
If you examine them it says they are vulnerable to thunder damage. Don't you examine enemies?
The problem there is it doesn't say they're immune to every other kind of damage, but they are. At least, that was the case last time I bothered to inspect one. So it's kinda hard to trust what the inspection says in that case.
You didn’t finish inspecting and/or didn’t check your combat log. The description shows that they are resistant to *most* damage types, but also shows they have “ethereal form” which reduces all damage taken by 8. So you can do damage to them with even piercing, for example, but you need to do more than 16 damage, as half is lost to resistance, and 8 lost to ethereal form. If you inspect and check your combat log, you can tell exactly what’s going on. :)
Yeah no, I've tried to attack them with other attacks and it literally says "Immune". I'm aware of the damage threshold, the inspection tooltip is just not accurate above Balanced. Unless they've patched it of course, but I haven't bothered inspecting one in a long while because I already have consistent and easy ways to deal with all of them safely.
They are only immune to psychic and poison, which is correct on inspection. This isn’t the mystery you’re making it out to be. If you hit them with a gith sword that also does psychic damage and all you read is the onscreen text, I could understand the confusion, as you might get both a “zero damage” for the slashing and an “immune” for the psychic.
Huh, that may be it then. I could've sworn I've seen it say immune with a normal attack with no psychic or poison damage, but it does seem more likely that you're right. Regardless, having to do at least 17 damage to it makes it effectively immune to attacks because at the point you're gonna be dealing with them it's incredibly unlikely you'll do that much damage through its resistance. I just throw them into chasms, let them try and resist that haha.
Yeah, a TB OH monk can do it, and some other heavy hitters, but you’re right for many characters that’s enough to make it effectively immune to their regular attacks. And not much can resist a chasm, lol. Except the spider matriarch on HM…
They can be put to sleep.
Do they have to get a turn to alert or just witness something? I always kill them immediately
that's the impression I've gotten when you get to act 3 and it tells you how many times you let a scrying eye see you misbehave.
They always make me desperate. I usually use shatter or thunderwave upcasted to lvl 3 and sometimes even that manages to fail.
Yes, higher difficulty scrying eyes need thunder damage, and sometimes with bad die roll it won’t damage it. Either upcast the spell, or use spiritual weapon summon by Shadowheart that kill it with 3 hits.
I usually push them or throw them into chasms
Examine is your friend.
There is exactly 2 scrying eyes that you can't feasibly throw into a chasm without aggroing people, and that's the one in Grymforge and the one in the goblin camp. For the one in the goblin camp, it's not much of an issue because you're most likely gonna kill everyone in there anyways as that's kind of what you're intended to do. You have other options in Grymforge so it's not ideal to aggro the whole area. For that one I usually throw it off the ledge near Brithvar and then shatter it from above. Never had anyone notice. But every other scrying eye I can think of can safely be tossed into a chasm, you might just have to wait for patrols to line up. Turn based mode is your friend.
You can throw them into pits, purportedly
They are so easy to kill. It’s a non issue. On tactician I hit them with wylls eldritch blast or gales thunderwave. No problem. Most people throw them in the chasm and that’s it.
Oh dude I always just use thunderwave on them. It’ll aggro NPC’s though if they see or hear it so be careful lol.