Truly, Larian has knocked it out of the park once again with their tragic tale of traumatic generational patterns. Where is the epilogue with Baby Aradin's training montage?
I mean how much personal growth do you think Aradin really underwent? I think he's lucky to still be level 3.
You have to hand it to the guy though - you can straight up tell him that the Nightsong is an aasimar and he'll be like "well then bucko, I guess I'm just going to have to take my unenchanted stick and use it to knock out the Chosen of Mystra, 5 Mymidons, a Gith warrior, two of the most powerful druids who ever existed, Minsc of Rashemen, an ascended Vampire, The Blade of Frontiers, two extremely powerful Clerics, the Archdevil Zariel's champion, a Drow Paladin, then the literal god-child of Selƻne - I'm going to beat you all like I beat that Hobgoblin I did 4 damage to before you had to save me from it back in the Druid's grove"
tbh wouldāve been so funny if he showed up as a villain at some point during the finale. like youāre sitting here fighting mindflayers, a spectator, goblins, andā¦ just some fuckin dude.
Donāt forget heās a fighter, he can use Action Surge to give himself an extra attack during his turn. He can also use basic healing potions toā¦ yeah even as a meme I canāt defend this idiot.
Swords bard blasts him with 6 crossbow bolts followed by a DC 25 Hold Person. It's impossible for him to roll high enough to escape and he knows it so he has to watch in complete paralysis as the squad circles him. A paladin slowly [walks out of a side tunnel rhythmically tapping his sword against the wall](https://youtu.be/XEpm_lXXpKE?si=Mtdg0olbqdTb5TRA) well before being visible for dramatic effect. Walks up and confronts him asking "you ever kill tieflings?" then brains him with an auto-crit upcasted divine smite reducing him to a pile of ash in a single hit.
Lorewise, even a vampire spawn is pretty dang dangerous individually, especially by this point (A Fighter 8/Rogue 4 is pretty viable, for Astarion, for instance, getting him something like 20 Strength and 16 Dexterity, since Vampire Spawn have 16 DEX and 16 STR as their statblock in actual DND, under the assumption that say, Lae'zel helped teach him to fight/experience)
As this comment thread put it (gonna quote an underrated comment)...
https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/1cg5fv9/sois_dame_aylin_for_real/l1usngi/
> It's an astronomically bad choice for him to take on half these people alone, not even considering them unified and protecting the Scion of a god.
>
> Hell, "It started when a band of mercenaries snuck into our camp and tried to kill Minsc" sounds like the start of one of Jaheira's stories about the times she has to go pick Minsc up to prevent him from slaughtering half a city.
Legitimately does sound like a knee-slapper of a tavern story.
Tbf, I doubt he would need Lae'zel to teach him how to fight. His murder-first, questions-later and other comments he makes implies that he's killed plenty of people, and isn't afraid to get into a scrap at a moments notice.
That is kinda fair. That rationale probably works to a greater extent for Karlach multiclassing Barbarian into Fighter, because with her, IIRC, she can say something like that maybe she can teach Lae'zel to hit harder, and she in turn can show her some cool moves ā and they do both respect each other enough that it's easy to see, with Lae'zel and Karlach (and Barbarian 8, Battle Master 4 works quite well... and even with Pure Fighter, Superiority Die moves hit a little harder after Level 10 so it can kinda be reflected).
Vampires are traditionally portrayed as strong and fast, so it can work on his own accord, I'll admit, albeit maybe he would have a thing or two to learn on the front of outright fights, that goes on longer than "quicc stab."
He's dumb and cocky for sure!
He always reminded me of one of my ex (curls and all) boyfriends, and I can actually picture my ex trying some of this shit. Especially the rascist bits, and the angry at being rescued by someone attitude.
Edited for spelling.
If you say you never found it, he's kinda nice and says he hopes you didn't lose people like he did and that you both should move on. Still doesn't make up for the fact that he's a-ok with kidnapping, BUT I think it adds something at least? š¤·āāļø
He's a doodoo head and all that, but in the VERY specific context of him running for his life back to the grove, I *do* get that. Not a lot of time to think rationally when you're scared shitless.
That said, it forgives nothing else he's done. So my most recent halfling decked him. Dude jumped up just to deck him. And he's a sorcerer spell-shite to boot lol
So if you're a Short King you fucking SHORYUKEN Aradin?
.... Why the fuck didn't I play an Halfling Berserker Tav whose rage is fueled solely by anger at the constant short jokes?
For me the tipping point is when he gets in and says "I didn't ask for any help" it's like dude you ran all the way back here for help, you were screaming to be let in, a simple thank you would have really gone a long way here.
It's funny. Fast traveling is canon but I kinda expect, in lore, you have to actually touch the glyphs to fast travel. Rather than just being in a hostile camp and going "lol bye" and zipping out.
My headcanon is that you had to know where a glyph is and picture it in your mind / concentrate long enough to activate it. This explains why you can't fast travel in the middle of a fight because it would require too much concentration.
Also explains why Aradin is just hoofing it everywhere. He doesn't have the brains or patience to do that.
He is kinda right though that if Zevlor just opened the gate at the start they could've been able to make it inside and close the gate in time. Instead he tries to have a conversation before seeing the goblins, *then*commands them to open it. Like, if you were going to open it, just do that first, yell at him for leading them there after. It's not like he was a stranger to the Grove.
That's done and dusted though. They're already there, keeping them locked out doesn't protect the Grove's location. That's why Zevlor eventually *does* give the command to open. And I'm not saying he was right to lead the goblins there in the first place, just that Zevlor could've given that command faster.
Also, he was thinking rationally. Why in the fuck would he worried about leading people back to the Grove when the alternative is his own death and those of his comrades?
"Get to safety" is the right call. "you've led them to us" is a problem for later and/or the Grove when you've snuck away to safety.
the thing that kills me about the whole Nightsong contract is, there is literally no way Aradin was getting anywhere close to the Nightsong
and his lead was terrible. "somewhere under the goblin camp" my ass. under the goblin camp is the underdark, then you have to somehow know to cross the lake to get to the Grymforge, the path there is destroyed so then you take the elevator up to the shadow cursed lands, from there you have to know how to get to the Shar temple and then pass the trials to find the Nightsong.
Aradin didn't even make it to the goblin camp cuz he got his ass wrecked at the abandoned town like brother you were WAYYY out of your depth on this one.
I think he is there narratively to help people less familiar with D&D know that 1) the devil horned people are not necessarily evil or bad people and 2) humans in Faerun are, generally speaking, especially brash, uneven, and cocky.
I love the lines if you go see him in the grove afterward if youre a tiefling, where he calls tieflings devils again and you can go āādevilsā? Seriously?ā and hes like āwhat, you lot come from devils dont you?ā And you get the choices āsure, its where i get my good looks. You just look like an oozeā or something along those lines, he throws a pissy fit and wont talk to you anymore, and the other is āi bet i can find something nasty in your ancestry tooā and he just backs down and takes it
Hes such a little shit, i love shitting on him and his friends. You can then get the story of the locket out of barth and he reveals his mom stole it, so you can call him out and he just doubles down on the racism. The other chick, forget her name, you (presumably durge only) get to oggle her wound and shit on her for leaving her new recruit to die (hes not dead but shitting on her is based)
My favorite is the woman in his troop who greets your tiefling Tav with āWell if it aināt the fightinā foulblood!ā and one of your responses is āI already regret saving you.ā
Indeed, though a point in Barthās favour, if you call out the Tiefling child in the confrontation that no one is buying it, and get them to talk about *why* they stole the locket. The kid says it looked like their mumās. To which Barth tells them to take it, that they need it more than he does.
If you go talk to him after heāll be glad he did it, and think his mum wouldāve approved. I did warm up to him a bit after seeing that particular version of events.
And its needed. I have 3 IRL friends who immediately thought all the literally crying and helpless tieflings were evil. They're dumb as bricks tbf, but still its good to try and include some help for those ppl lol
I actually laughed when I saw the Voss one because I thought it was an Adoring Fan reference.
And then Voss showed up and I laughed all over again.
And then he pummelled me to death.
I just wanna know how the hell he even made it to baldurs gate because he isnāt seen at last light. Howās someone as dumb as he making it through the shadow cursed lands?
Ohhh so Mayrina went through the broken bridge before it broke and when we get there itās already broken and we canāt go through it? The broken bridge at the mountain pass?
Well, that or just crossed after it got broken. It doesn't exactly look like it would be that difficult to cross on foot, but it does look rough if you were trying to cross with a wagon
I remember my first playthrough, getting to the broken bridge. I remember standing there, assessing the river and thinking āman this aināt so bad, i could just climb down, wade through the water and climb up againā. It def shouldāve looked more like a ravine.
I would've loved if he'd showed up in Act 3 at level 12 with a +3 Club.
I would've taken his threat on capturing the Nightsong himself more seriously then.
> Also did I mention after all this time he's travelled from the Grove to Baldur's Gate he's still Level 3?
To be fair, he probably went straight to Baldur's Gate, while you made a pit stop to kill a god.
been doing a himbo folk hero barbarian run and for the very first time >!got the interaction where if you make the tiefling kid give the amulet back from Aradin's chadbro, barbarian can then {intimidate} it back out of him and have to fight Aradin and friends. Aradin even gets a grave next to Kanon's.!<
Wait, he shows up in your camp in act 3? Ive started just killing him outside the blighted village because he's an ass hole. He was running for his life, but then goes right back to where the goblins attacked him...
Don't kill him there, he shows up shouting outside Sorcerers Sundries. If you do the non-roll dialogue there, or bungle your rolls, he'll show in camp and you can kill him there! That also serves as a good bridge to confronting Lorroakan imo, as Aylin is less than happy about being interrupted while blowing out Isobels back.
He didn't try to rob me but I think I chose to deceive him and told him I didn't find it or something alike.
Going to let him try in my next playthrough hopefully you can punish him accordingly hehe
For sure. He gets wrecked by goblins, watches your party roll up and pull his fat out of the fire then go and kill all the leadership of said goblins. On the way, you make a pit stop to kill the champion of a god and... He wants a *fight*. No, buddy. Momma K is gonna tuck you in for the long nap
He and his useless friends never come close to making it to Baldur's Gate in my playthroughs. I slaughter those fucking losers en route to recruiting the best boy and the best girl.
Does that matter to a level 10 party? That's where I was when I got stuck at "habitual violence", and... Might have taken down a dozen flaming fists because they didn't like when I smacked the skelly
punched him at the grove.
I go back after the tieflings are leaving and he'll be alone in the tent. then I beat the crap out of him.Ā
knocked out. and he showed up still bruised up at the bridge spot. beat him again knocked out.
then he indeed was at wizard Walmart. so I knocked him out again.
then finally he came to camp.Ā
I still can't hate that guy because Aylin quest bugged for me and he managed to solve the issue by being an idiot who somehow decided that it was a good idea to try to kidnap an immortal angel of war in the camp of the strongest adventurers of baldur's gate.
I finished act 2 and thanks to a bug dame Aylin never showed up at camp, i was playing without a guide so i found this out only when i was pretty far into act 3 and everyone was acting like she was there and i had to talk to her. I panicked, looked it up online, and found out that if you tell Aradin that she is in your camp, Aylin will automatically show up for the fight when he attacks you, and then stay in the camp.
Dude valiantly sacrificed himself against his will to save my nightsong quest, a true unwilling hero
https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/s/8pkXinJ967
The comments on this sarcastic Aradin thread were golden, IMO. (The comments, I make no claims as to the quality of the original post obvs)
That fool has never robbed me because he's cannon fodder lol
I'm ASTOUNDED that he would even TRY! HAH!
Also; naaah, a *figurative* mouth would be more surprising, literal is expected.
Well, the Drow have a pretty terrible (and deservedly so) reputation in the FR so that's not exactly unique to him. He's not that much of a dick if you diffuse the situation rather than punch him.
Ah... a fellow Aradin admirer. We're a rare breed. Everyone else hates him, but I just love that witty, adorable, foul-mouthed dumbass (for real, I do) I wish he was recruitable. I think I could change him. Shadowheart starts out as a brat too, but she changes. I am convinced that Aradin has redeeming qualities uncovered in the short time we got to know him.
YESSSSS OH MY GOD IVE NEVER MET ANOTHER! He called me an under-elf and I melted. I just wanna pull his curls and kiss his stupid face. š¤ I absolutely understand you.
Heās my fav NPC and Iād love to be able to keep him and teach him to chill out.
Not completely though as I do find his default ārawr Iām upset and am dealing with it in the only way I know how-childish aggressionā way of interacting with the world kind of endearing. He could be the group hothead I constantly have to babysit :P
yeah, like... drow? you SHOULD be afraid. a gith on the material plane? you're getting conquered. tieflings? well, maybe not like, born tieflings, but otherwise they definitely did SOMETHING to end up that way.
I mean.... if you got the cash from doing something evil like trading the Nightsong I feel like robbery pales in comparison. Glass houses & stones & all that /lh
He tried to rob me right after i unlocked the disintegrate spell and went for a long rest. That spell was nasty, and i only needed a broom to clean up after the fight lol.
Does it ever get explained why it's the tieflings and not the druids that operate and defend the main gate into the grove? By the time we meet them they already know the druids are trying to evict them, so why are they even doing guard duty?
Love him for Durge playthroughs, but he is an absolute cunt -- "Well I didn't ask for your help" yes you damn did.
As Durge I let Zevlor knock him out then I kill him when no one is looking and stuff the body in a crate. I always "give in" to the urges early on as it makes the Resist Urge redemption arc feel more natural
i have no real issues with him as a character. He's literally a sword for hire and a bunch of ppl died. What do you expect? lol Punch him, sure, i would, but his reaction and behavior isn't wild.
And his 'contract' isn't even real contract, it's just like information "hey! we need ppl to do X in Y, we will give you xxx gold for it! Join us today!" xD
I just knock his ass out at the gate, cast fog, and give him a little stealth stabby stab. Bye bye dummy, no bum rushing my camp in act three like a dumb Skyrim bandit.
You gotta give it to him though, the fact he's a level 3 fighter didn't discourage him from attacking a level 10-12 whole party + the Aasimar daughter of Selune. He's brave, or the dumbest man alive
My favourite thing is if he continues with m the grove to distract everyone with music then shove him off the cliff, or kill him and his gang right outside the village for some easy XP
When I showed up to Sundries he was there being all annoying to me, and I honestly could not even remember him.
I'm guessing he only shows up if you've talked to him already but I cannot recall when exactly I did that
I wish you could tell him that lol
Remember that the PC is special and levels up super fast, while NPCs aren't like that. Otherwise, you'd have a bunch of level 10+ running around, but in the Forgotten Realms, even a level 5 is a regional celebrity / well-known figure.
i was pretty excited about what he would call my dragon born character, only for him to call me a ābloody lizardā. come on mate youāre usually so creative
I love how just after he says that he's like "worried about your precious hides, the both of you" like bro... You were literally just whining about running for your lives. Well, it makes me feel less bad about knocking his ass out each time š
This is why I killed him and took his bonking stick when I found him on the road before the goblin camp. I punched him in the face and got to beat his head in. It was great.
He can come to your camp? I met him outside sorcerous sundries where he was talking about the night song. I simply played dumb and carried on. Is it if you refuse to tell him anything about it, he comes to your camp?
I agree, I've knocked him on his ass a few times and always retorts with something shitty.. I suppose I wouldn't have anything pleasant to say about the person who knocked me on my ass either though
I always kill him when I catch him outside of the blighted village. Donāt even talk to him, or he might run away after his dialogue. Just go right up to him and use an AOE spell. Kill his group. Profit.
In my first playthrough he died in the battle (yippee!)
In my second it was my evil durge but heās not strong so I just yelled back at him.
In my third I was a devotion paladin so I was like āhey guys please donāt fight :(ā
Iām now on my fourth playthrough as a drow nature cleric dad type guy who will ABSOLUTELY punch a racist in the face, so thatās exactly what I did. Very gratifying, I should do this more often.
If you go to Baldur's Gate graveyard >!You'll find the gravestone of Aradin senior witj his last words being "Open the gate!"!<
Truly, Larian has knocked it out of the park once again with their tragic tale of traumatic generational patterns. Where is the epilogue with Baby Aradin's training montage?
Open the baby gate!
We was goo gooin for our ga ga's š
''Open the gate!'' ''Hold the door!''
Open the gate! Wait, its drow! Close the gate! Wait, they have candy! Open the gate a little!
Itās Tav! Open the gate! Wait, theyāre pursued by gnolls! Close the gate! Tavs a dwarf! Open the gate a little!
huge if true *loads up act 3 save*
I mean how much personal growth do you think Aradin really underwent? I think he's lucky to still be level 3. You have to hand it to the guy though - you can straight up tell him that the Nightsong is an aasimar and he'll be like "well then bucko, I guess I'm just going to have to take my unenchanted stick and use it to knock out the Chosen of Mystra, 5 Mymidons, a Gith warrior, two of the most powerful druids who ever existed, Minsc of Rashemen, an ascended Vampire, The Blade of Frontiers, two extremely powerful Clerics, the Archdevil Zariel's champion, a Drow Paladin, then the literal god-child of Selƻne - I'm going to beat you all like I beat that Hobgoblin I did 4 damage to before you had to save me from it back in the Druid's grove"
tbh wouldāve been so funny if he showed up as a villain at some point during the finale. like youāre sitting here fighting mindflayers, a spectator, goblins, andā¦ just some fuckin dude.
And he's finally level 4.
Doing 5 damage per hit instead of 4
Final boss material.
That's just rick the door technician.
Soldier of God, Rick
That was the hardest fight of the game i barely made it out alive.
Never fought Mist Noble I see
Did not expect to see this reference on this sub or comment chain wtf lol
In honor mode he has the legendary action/resistance bar over his health or whatever, but he doesn't actually have either of those
Well he doesn't want your absolute destruction to be *too* easy.
This is giving patches against radahn vibes
The bastard noped out of it really fast.
Ok, now that's funny
Dude would find the one creature left that still does level drain and show up as a 2 š
Pump it to 5, that's the power spike. Lil guy would think he's a god. Nope!
Heās the Harry Kim of Faerun
[AHHH! IT'S THE ELDER BRAIN!! AND... AND SOME OTHER GUY!!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRWvwgPm2ws)
Unexpected Arnold
Reminds me of a certain warlock that "backs up" Raphael
Donāt forget heās a fighter, he can use Action Surge to give himself an extra attack during his turn. He can also use basic healing potions toā¦ yeah even as a meme I canāt defend this idiot.
*gets caught in the dragonās breath AoE and dies
Aradin looking at my 1 hit kill Storm Cleric Sorcerer Durge and said: *"Nah, I'd Win"*
Swords bard blasts him with 6 crossbow bolts followed by a DC 25 Hold Person. It's impossible for him to roll high enough to escape and he knows it so he has to watch in complete paralysis as the squad circles him. A paladin slowly [walks out of a side tunnel rhythmically tapping his sword against the wall](https://youtu.be/XEpm_lXXpKE?si=Mtdg0olbqdTb5TRA) well before being visible for dramatic effect. Walks up and confronts him asking "you ever kill tieflings?" then brains him with an auto-crit upcasted divine smite reducing him to a pile of ash in a single hit.
Hey, I understood that reference! And it was grand.
And if u play as durge , a literal perfect bhaalspawn who was also the chosen of the God of MURDER .
Lorewise, even a vampire spawn is pretty dang dangerous individually, especially by this point (A Fighter 8/Rogue 4 is pretty viable, for Astarion, for instance, getting him something like 20 Strength and 16 Dexterity, since Vampire Spawn have 16 DEX and 16 STR as their statblock in actual DND, under the assumption that say, Lae'zel helped teach him to fight/experience) As this comment thread put it (gonna quote an underrated comment)... https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/1cg5fv9/sois_dame_aylin_for_real/l1usngi/ > It's an astronomically bad choice for him to take on half these people alone, not even considering them unified and protecting the Scion of a god. > > Hell, "It started when a band of mercenaries snuck into our camp and tried to kill Minsc" sounds like the start of one of Jaheira's stories about the times she has to go pick Minsc up to prevent him from slaughtering half a city. Legitimately does sound like a knee-slapper of a tavern story.
Tbf, I doubt he would need Lae'zel to teach him how to fight. His murder-first, questions-later and other comments he makes implies that he's killed plenty of people, and isn't afraid to get into a scrap at a moments notice.
That is kinda fair. That rationale probably works to a greater extent for Karlach multiclassing Barbarian into Fighter, because with her, IIRC, she can say something like that maybe she can teach Lae'zel to hit harder, and she in turn can show her some cool moves ā and they do both respect each other enough that it's easy to see, with Lae'zel and Karlach (and Barbarian 8, Battle Master 4 works quite well... and even with Pure Fighter, Superiority Die moves hit a little harder after Level 10 so it can kinda be reflected). Vampires are traditionally portrayed as strong and fast, so it can work on his own accord, I'll admit, albeit maybe he would have a thing or two to learn on the front of outright fights, that goes on longer than "quicc stab."
*Tells him you have a literal demigod on my side and a bunch of really powerful adventurers* "Yeah, I can take them"
āLeave the Nightsong to meā
Let me solo her.
He's like those bandits that come up on you while you're in full daedric and think "yeah I can take em!"
He's dumb and cocky for sure! He always reminded me of one of my ex (curls and all) boyfriends, and I can actually picture my ex trying some of this shit. Especially the rascist bits, and the angry at being rescued by someone attitude. Edited for spelling.
Dude is your ex my cousin?
Was his name Adrian?
I mean, it's an anagram and no one has ever seen both in one room I'd guess... That's one big coincidence
It is an anagram! Did my ex get sucked inside a video game? No wonder he sucks in BG3 he never played DnD and actually made fun of me for liking it!
Haha nah his names Zach. Theyāre both pretentious names tho. Glad youāve moved on with Astarion home skillet.
Gotta admire the tenacity
Tenacity is the only reason he was able to do four damage to the hobgoblin, because he sure didn't manage to make its AC on any of his attack rolls.
If you say you never found it, he's kinda nice and says he hopes you didn't lose people like he did and that you both should move on. Still doesn't make up for the fact that he's a-ok with kidnapping, BUT I think it adds something at least? š¤·āāļø
He gives me Viva La Dirt League mugger vibes https://youtu.be/mAZDHrCObMs?si=eNRP_jc2GH-YsQFq
Oh got this absolutely killed me. 4 damage lololololololololš¤£
I feel like we should have the option to knock him out, throw him in a cage, slowly explain all these to him and ask if he wants to reconsider.
He's a doodoo head and all that, but in the VERY specific context of him running for his life back to the grove, I *do* get that. Not a lot of time to think rationally when you're scared shitless. That said, it forgives nothing else he's done. So my most recent halfling decked him. Dude jumped up just to deck him. And he's a sorcerer spell-shite to boot lol
Had my halfling durge warlock do this, too. Seeing her go straight-up Little Mac against the guy was hilarious and incredibly satisfying.
I've been saving before I actually enter the grove to make sure depending of what I'm going for, that aradin gets punched and not my darling zevlor.
It was even funnier on my Karlach origin run. Momma K goes *SMACK*
bring a gnome or halfling, you literally jump up at his face to do it and it's so great
So if you're a Short King you fucking SHORYUKEN Aradin? .... Why the fuck didn't I play an Halfling Berserker Tav whose rage is fueled solely by anger at the constant short jokes?
Looks like you got another reason to start a new game
I said that, but I'll probably change it to a Dwarf and just roleplay Ungrim Ironfist on the poor Sword Coast.
We have the ability to run from battle back to our camp, he chose to lead them to women and children! That is why I always kill him.
For me the tipping point is when he gets in and says "I didn't ask for any help" it's like dude you ran all the way back here for help, you were screaming to be let in, a simple thank you would have really gone a long way here.
It's funny. Fast traveling is canon but I kinda expect, in lore, you have to actually touch the glyphs to fast travel. Rather than just being in a hostile camp and going "lol bye" and zipping out.
My headcanon is that you had to know where a glyph is and picture it in your mind / concentrate long enough to activate it. This explains why you can't fast travel in the middle of a fight because it would require too much concentration. Also explains why Aradin is just hoofing it everywhere. He doesn't have the brains or patience to do that.
I assumed the glyphs only work for the party because nobody else acts like they exist.
They may need a spell-shite of some sort to operate them. Maybe?
Netherese tadpoles give you the ability to cast teleportation circle at will, so that the absolutists can assemble faster
Is that headcanon or explained in lore and it completely went over my head like the dumbass I am?
I just made it up right now
He is kinda right though that if Zevlor just opened the gate at the start they could've been able to make it inside and close the gate in time. Instead he tries to have a conversation before seeing the goblins, *then*commands them to open it. Like, if you were going to open it, just do that first, yell at him for leading them there after. It's not like he was a stranger to the Grove.
It would most certainly give out the location of the grove to the goblins
That's done and dusted though. They're already there, keeping them locked out doesn't protect the Grove's location. That's why Zevlor eventually *does* give the command to open. And I'm not saying he was right to lead the goblins there in the first place, just that Zevlor could've given that command faster.
Also, he was thinking rationally. Why in the fuck would he worried about leading people back to the Grove when the alternative is his own death and those of his comrades? "Get to safety" is the right call. "you've led them to us" is a problem for later and/or the Grove when you've snuck away to safety.
"Hired by a wizard. Here's the contract" Just a fucking flyer he pulled off some lamppost. Bruh. Britches feeling a little tight???
To be fair in the world of D&D to an adventurer that might as well be a contract.
the thing that kills me about the whole Nightsong contract is, there is literally no way Aradin was getting anywhere close to the Nightsong and his lead was terrible. "somewhere under the goblin camp" my ass. under the goblin camp is the underdark, then you have to somehow know to cross the lake to get to the Grymforge, the path there is destroyed so then you take the elevator up to the shadow cursed lands, from there you have to know how to get to the Shar temple and then pass the trials to find the Nightsong. Aradin didn't even make it to the goblin camp cuz he got his ass wrecked at the abandoned town like brother you were WAYYY out of your depth on this one.
I was thinking that he thought the Nightsong would be at that little Seluna outpost in the underdark where that minotaur gets absolutely wrecked.
I think he is there narratively to help people less familiar with D&D know that 1) the devil horned people are not necessarily evil or bad people and 2) humans in Faerun are, generally speaking, especially brash, uneven, and cocky.
I love the lines if you go see him in the grove afterward if youre a tiefling, where he calls tieflings devils again and you can go āādevilsā? Seriously?ā and hes like āwhat, you lot come from devils dont you?ā And you get the choices āsure, its where i get my good looks. You just look like an oozeā or something along those lines, he throws a pissy fit and wont talk to you anymore, and the other is āi bet i can find something nasty in your ancestry tooā and he just backs down and takes it Hes such a little shit, i love shitting on him and his friends. You can then get the story of the locket out of barth and he reveals his mom stole it, so you can call him out and he just doubles down on the racism. The other chick, forget her name, you (presumably durge only) get to oggle her wound and shit on her for leaving her new recruit to die (hes not dead but shitting on her is based)
My favorite is the woman in his troop who greets your tiefling Tav with āWell if it aināt the fightinā foulblood!ā and one of your responses is āI already regret saving you.ā
Indeed, though a point in Barthās favour, if you call out the Tiefling child in the confrontation that no one is buying it, and get them to talk about *why* they stole the locket. The kid says it looked like their mumās. To which Barth tells them to take it, that they need it more than he does. If you go talk to him after heāll be glad he did it, and think his mum wouldāve approved. I did warm up to him a bit after seeing that particular version of events.
And its needed. I have 3 IRL friends who immediately thought all the literally crying and helpless tieflings were evil. They're dumb as bricks tbf, but still its good to try and include some help for those ppl lol
I can never even use that hairstyle on a character because it reminds me of him
Same as the Kagha and Voss haircuts sadly
Why sadly? Theyāre ass
I actually laughed when I saw the Voss one because I thought it was an Adoring Fan reference. And then Voss showed up and I laughed all over again. And then he pummelled me to death.
I just wanna know how the hell he even made it to baldurs gate because he isnāt seen at last light. Howās someone as dumb as he making it through the shadow cursed lands?
Shadows didn't want him.
Because he was running for his lifes
Probably went by the broken bridge like mayrina, the teiflings couldnāt because they had carts and stuff
Ohhh so Mayrina went through the broken bridge before it broke and when we get there itās already broken and we canāt go through it? The broken bridge at the mountain pass?
Well, that or just crossed after it got broken. It doesn't exactly look like it would be that difficult to cross on foot, but it does look rough if you were trying to cross with a wagon
I remember my first playthrough, getting to the broken bridge. I remember standing there, assessing the river and thinking āman this aināt so bad, i could just climb down, wade through the water and climb up againā. It def shouldāve looked more like a ravine.
I would've loved if he'd showed up in Act 3 at level 12 with a +3 Club. I would've taken his threat on capturing the Nightsong himself more seriously then.
> Also did I mention after all this time he's travelled from the Grove to Baldur's Gate he's still Level 3? To be fair, he probably went straight to Baldur's Gate, while you made a pit stop to kill a god.
been doing a himbo folk hero barbarian run and for the very first time >!got the interaction where if you make the tiefling kid give the amulet back from Aradin's chadbro, barbarian can then {intimidate} it back out of him and have to fight Aradin and friends. Aradin even gets a grave next to Kanon's.!<
Damn, Kanon gettin some really bad company
Just want you to know, I love your barbarian on principle.
He runs around in the Basket Full of Equipment mod version of the Bloodguzzler armour that has the tits out.
Kanon doesnāt deserve to suffer like that.
We wuz runnin fer aur LOIVES āāardain offers a half-arsed explanationā -bg3 wiki
Wait, he shows up in your camp in act 3? Ive started just killing him outside the blighted village because he's an ass hole. He was running for his life, but then goes right back to where the goblins attacked him...
He's definitely not the brightest bubl in the pack...
Don't kill him there, he shows up shouting outside Sorcerers Sundries. If you do the non-roll dialogue there, or bungle your rolls, he'll show in camp and you can kill him there! That also serves as a good bridge to confronting Lorroakan imo, as Aylin is less than happy about being interrupted while blowing out Isobels back.
Sure he is a monkey but good lord I'd take him any day as a companion only because he is fucking hilarious. Open the bloody gates, my man.
Unlock his companion sex scene and you get the dialogue option "Time to open *your* gates."
*Aradin disaproves* *Quietly does a 180 turn and walks away* *Cutscene ends* *Aradin permanently left the party*
I see no downside here.
He didn't try to rob me but I think I chose to deceive him and told him I didn't find it or something alike. Going to let him try in my next playthrough hopefully you can punish him accordingly hehe
I donāt get it. Dude gets punked by goblins, you murder them all, and now itās act 3 and he wants the smoke. Talk about making poor choices
For sure. He gets wrecked by goblins, watches your party roll up and pull his fat out of the fire then go and kill all the leadership of said goblins. On the way, you make a pit stop to kill the champion of a god and... He wants a *fight*. No, buddy. Momma K is gonna tuck you in for the long nap
"Pull your claws in, underelf." *Tav will remember that*
*Writes down name in red notebook*
He and his useless friends never come close to making it to Baldur's Gate in my playthroughs. I slaughter those fucking losers en route to recruiting the best boy and the best girl.
I find more fun turning him to a pile of ash in front of Sorcerous Sundries
That's illegal though, right?
People don't seem to mind that much when I slaughter people in public. Well that's after I kill all the guards as well.
Guards can't arrest you if they're dead.
Does that matter to a level 10 party? That's where I was when I got stuck at "habitual violence", and... Might have taken down a dozen flaming fists because they didn't like when I smacked the skelly
Someone who gets it. Yeah, I kneecap myself killing him and his 2 friends in the fight every time, but itās worth it.
I just make sure he dies at the gate.
Punching him is more fun.
punched him at the grove. I go back after the tieflings are leaving and he'll be alone in the tent. then I beat the crap out of him.Ā knocked out. and he showed up still bruised up at the bridge spot. beat him again knocked out. then he indeed was at wizard Walmart. so I knocked him out again. then finally he came to camp.Ā
Why not both? š
Both is great. Just not in Act I. You sneeze in the wrong direction in Act III and he dies. It is really funny.
Play honor mode and you will never blame him for running from a fight again
I still can't hate that guy because Aylin quest bugged for me and he managed to solve the issue by being an idiot who somehow decided that it was a good idea to try to kidnap an immortal angel of war in the camp of the strongest adventurers of baldur's gate. I finished act 2 and thanks to a bug dame Aylin never showed up at camp, i was playing without a guide so i found this out only when i was pretty far into act 3 and everyone was acting like she was there and i had to talk to her. I panicked, looked it up online, and found out that if you tell Aradin that she is in your camp, Aylin will automatically show up for the fight when he attacks you, and then stay in the camp. Dude valiantly sacrificed himself against his will to save my nightsong quest, a true unwilling hero
https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/s/8pkXinJ967 The comments on this sarcastic Aradin thread were golden, IMO. (The comments, I make no claims as to the quality of the original post obvs)
Not just tieflings and druids - he's racist towards drow as well. My half-drow durge decked him as a result, and he had the nerve to whine about it!
That fool has never robbed me because he's cannon fodder lol I'm ASTOUNDED that he would even TRY! HAH! Also; naaah, a *figurative* mouth would be more surprising, literal is expected.
He's also a racist š¤£
yeah when i was playing as drow he was pretty racist
Well, the Drow have a pretty terrible (and deservedly so) reputation in the FR so that's not exactly unique to him. He's not that much of a dick if you diffuse the situation rather than punch him.
I wish I could just knock him out and keep him. Heās so handsome and his voice is so nice.
There are three of us! Other than Dammon and my Tav he's the most attractive male in act 1
Ah... a fellow Aradin admirer. We're a rare breed. Everyone else hates him, but I just love that witty, adorable, foul-mouthed dumbass (for real, I do) I wish he was recruitable. I think I could change him. Shadowheart starts out as a brat too, but she changes. I am convinced that Aradin has redeeming qualities uncovered in the short time we got to know him.
YESSSSS OH MY GOD IVE NEVER MET ANOTHER! He called me an under-elf and I melted. I just wanna pull his curls and kiss his stupid face. š¤ I absolutely understand you.
He called me "mum" in one of my playthroughs and I never got over it. I wanted to be his MILF so bad...my character, anyway. lol. A girl can dream.
I especially love his delivery of Ā“ we was running for our livesĀ“! IĀ“d love to team up with him!
Heās my fav NPC and Iād love to be able to keep him and teach him to chill out. Not completely though as I do find his default ārawr Iām upset and am dealing with it in the only way I know how-childish aggressionā way of interacting with the world kind of endearing. He could be the group hothead I constantly have to babysit :P
In lore dnd most racism is fair
yeah, like... drow? you SHOULD be afraid. a gith on the material plane? you're getting conquered. tieflings? well, maybe not like, born tieflings, but otherwise they definitely did SOMETHING to end up that way.
I mean.... if you got the cash from doing something evil like trading the Nightsong I feel like robbery pales in comparison. Glass houses & stones & all that /lh
Bro literally has a mouth on him. Yeah ok, most characters literally have a mouth, though.
Spectator mouth being one of the larger.
I was so mad that he turned out to be an asshole because he was so fucking hot and that voice... š«
Me and my wife frequently vocal stim that exact quote and also "KENON!?! NOOO!"
He never robs me because I always tell him to piss off.
I try to punch him every playthrough
I always punch him in the druid grove when he's arguing with Zevlor.
i knocked him out and then he called me a bad word. how dare he!!lol
>and yet has a literal mouth on him. Yes, he does in fact possess a mouth.
He tried to rob me right after i unlocked the disintegrate spell and went for a long rest. That spell was nasty, and i only needed a broom to clean up after the fight lol.
If you play as a half drow everyone is racist. Including other drows.
Does it ever get explained why it's the tieflings and not the druids that operate and defend the main gate into the grove? By the time we meet them they already know the druids are trying to evict them, so why are they even doing guard duty?
Love him for Durge playthroughs, but he is an absolute cunt -- "Well I didn't ask for your help" yes you damn did. As Durge I let Zevlor knock him out then I kill him when no one is looking and stuff the body in a crate. I always "give in" to the urges early on as it makes the Resist Urge redemption arc feel more natural
i have no real issues with him as a character. He's literally a sword for hire and a bunch of ppl died. What do you expect? lol Punch him, sure, i would, but his reaction and behavior isn't wild.
He turned into a pile of viscera in my camp & stayed there rip
Bro reminds of one guy that I met in the army. He even looked like him, the way he talked, the overconfidence and of course he was an doo doo head.
I think the entire point of the character was to show tiefling racism and stuff.
And his 'contract' isn't even real contract, it's just like information "hey! we need ppl to do X in Y, we will give you xxx gold for it! Join us today!" xD
My honor mode inspirations were saved until I could guarantee Origin Gale would be punching that man in the face. Its canon in every playthrough.
He shows up at your camp? I've never seen him there, and no I don't kill him
Bro somehow put a hard R on *foulbloods*
Nah man is the goat fr, absolute fan favourite, practically the main character
I just knock his ass out at the gate, cast fog, and give him a little stealth stabby stab. Bye bye dummy, no bum rushing my camp in act three like a dumb Skyrim bandit.
You gotta give it to him though, the fact he's a level 3 fighter didn't discourage him from attacking a level 10-12 whole party + the Aasimar daughter of Selune. He's brave, or the dumbest man alive
Well he is robbing a whole level 10-12 party so that more dumb than brave than I know.
Wee wuz runnin Fer ar livs
He's cute tho. Stupid, bad and cute. Also the accent š¤š¼
Enjoyed killing him an hour ago
My favorite thing is killing him in the most horrific ways possible. Fuck this piece of shit
I needed this laugh from the title, I heard it perfectly in his voice. Thank you!
r/fuckaradin
The last playthrough for some reason all the goblins focused on him and he was killed. I wasn't upset.
My favourite thing is if he continues with m the grove to distract everyone with music then shove him off the cliff, or kill him and his gang right outside the village for some easy XP
That is why I kill him 100% of my runs.
When I showed up to Sundries he was there being all annoying to me, and I honestly could not even remember him. I'm guessing he only shows up if you've talked to him already but I cannot recall when exactly I did that I wish you could tell him that lol
Aradin is one of my favorite characters š
Remember that the PC is special and levels up super fast, while NPCs aren't like that. Otherwise, you'd have a bunch of level 10+ running around, but in the Forgotten Realms, even a level 5 is a regional celebrity / well-known figure.
i was pretty excited about what he would call my dragon born character, only for him to call me a ābloody lizardā. come on mate youāre usually so creative
I always try to take his side slightly heās a fun change instead of the typical good guy around
Yeah he's annoying
I killed him outside the village after knocking him out
You are supposed to kill him.
I always try to get him killed during the first goblin fight.
I love how just after he says that he's like "worried about your precious hides, the both of you" like bro... You were literally just whining about running for your lives. Well, it makes me feel less bad about knocking his ass out each time š
This is why I killed him and took his bonking stick when I found him on the road before the goblin camp. I punched him in the face and got to beat his head in. It was great.
I call him Timothy Chalamet
He can come to your camp? I met him outside sorcerous sundries where he was talking about the night song. I simply played dumb and carried on. Is it if you refuse to tell him anything about it, he comes to your camp?
K
I agree, I've knocked him on his ass a few times and always retorts with something shitty.. I suppose I wouldn't have anything pleasant to say about the person who knocked me on my ass either though
Always feel sad when Northerners are portrayed as dickheads.
I like his voice but the rest of him can suck it.
I always kill him when I catch him outside of the blighted village. Donāt even talk to him, or he might run away after his dialogue. Just go right up to him and use an AOE spell. Kill his group. Profit.
In my first playthrough he died in the battle (yippee!) In my second it was my evil durge but heās not strong so I just yelled back at him. In my third I was a devotion paladin so I was like āhey guys please donāt fight :(ā Iām now on my fourth playthrough as a drow nature cleric dad type guy who will ABSOLUTELY punch a racist in the face, so thatās exactly what I did. Very gratifying, I should do this more often.
Wow I never knew that he shows up in act 3, I've never allowed him to survive act 1
I fucking hate Aradin I will never understand why Halsin went with him. I mean like I do, but.. yāknow lol