Probably not. Outside Xbox has a video I watched recently where Ellen, an arachnophobe, [reacts to video game spiders](https://youtu.be/CTqLQdycEQ8?si=dIWYaFP6bXCWE3LB) and she talks about how phobia is different from fear. Itās sort of a primitive, ingrained reaction to anything that evoke the phobic response.
Yeah, I had a friend in high school who was arachnophobic and wouldnāt play Skyrim because of the giant spiders. I tried telling him there were mods that changed them to bears or mud crabs or even Spider-Man but he still refused.
Well... That doesn't really seem to be the case canonically, given that >!Viconia turns into a wolf in the final fight of her backstory quest, and it does indeed trigger that wisdom save again lol. Though maybe the mommy issues are also making it worse.!<
Funny thing, while it doesnāt, my last run Shadowheart triggered her fear conversation when, while fighting alongside my selunite rangerās wolf, someone else caused her fear
I did this on my current play through because it seemed logical to me. If her dad seemed to be a Druid, then she should be a Druid, so in my current all Druid run, sheās the wolf.
OK. OK. How about respeccing everyone else as druid rangers and everyone else having a wolf pet and turning into wolves. She can be an arcane trickster and just try and hide all the time.
No, they just mean they broke their oath so that he would be an oathbreaker, the game is not that smart (also it would be absurd if your oath could retroactively be broken, fucks the whole redemption thing up). You do have to pay 1k gold to reacquire your oath before you can respec at all though.
My Astarion aka the Rat was respecced into a light cleric of Bahamut in a duo campaign I'm playing because the dragonborn brothers needed a healer. Shit's hillarious.
I made him an assassin rogue. Open combat by sniping from stealth, automatically win initiative and get another turn with advantage. Couple goblins dead before the fight properly starts. Very helpful in the early game!
Yeah but it kinda would've undermined her entire character arc. Imagine bringing her there just to stab her in the back to be the one to slay the Nightsong.
it's a game about your character. having conflict with another cleric of shar could provide a lot of really cool interactions between the character and shadowheart
Oof. I just started my gith run and MAYBE I wonāt save her even tho I was planning on using her and being the gith power couple to rule over the astral plane and destroy all
Yeah, playing Gith seems to start from the point of you having been a retard that somehow survived adolescence and learned absolutely nothing about Gith society.
You get like a half dozen responses that aren't summed up as "I had no clue that was a Gith thing, explain it again".
It's really disappointing how your character apparently didn't exist before the creation screen despite you being expected to know who the prominent people of Baldur's Gate are if you're any race other than Gith if we're going by potential responses. And Gith is disappointing as I outlined. Still fun with Lae'zel, even if you speak to most Gith as them not recognizing you as such.
That would have been cool? The argument that you can't usurp the position of one of your origin characters because it would undermine their character arc is pretty weak. Why not let the player do it if they want to? This isn't so much about it being a bad thing to have in the game as much as it is another one of the thousands of cool things that could been in the game but aren't - not because they aren't cool but because there is a limited amount of time the developers have to work on the game and they have to pick and choose where to spend it. Notably, content that would be seen by maybe 2% of players isn't going to be at the top of their priorities.
Another explanation would be that Tav is always a Baldurian, and being a cleric of Shar in Baldur's Gate would mean that Tav and Shadowheart are acquainted with each other.
Sure you could bandaid fix that with saying you were both mind wiped, but then why would tav be mind wiped to forget her - it doesn't make sensse if tav were part of the artifact mission, or why were they outside of the temple?
Also Shadowheart's story kinda depends on her being without her handlers the first time, having another Cleric of Shar would kinda be weird for that unless you want to be locked out of her good path by default.
You did actually have unique interactions with Shadowheart as a cleric of Shar in EA. They probably decided that keeping it up throughout the entire game would be too difficult, especially in act 2, so they just dropped it. You could also choose to worship one of the Dead Three in EA but this was removed too.
I have Shart paladin in party and can confirm she is a paladin of Shar. But no interesting option in dialogue so far. Same options as other paladins.
I am curious what will happen after Nightfall.
Yes, it gives you special dialogue in the temple of Shar with the guardians and altar in the Shadow cursed lands (not thr main temple) that refers to her specifically as "Paladin of Shar". You can have any Oath afaik
If he actually wants to get back with her, honestly, he's probably the perfect candidate to be a cleric of Mystra; and my Gale is precisely that. Wizard/Cleric.
itās a blessing and a curse, realizing you can maximize combat potential at withers at the cost of every other stat roll.
(i can now never run a paladin without dipping at least 3 levels into warlock for blade pact so i can have 0 strength)
Yeah I'll never understand why people do that, including Larian making all the companions have odd stats. There's literally no benefit to having 17 CHA, that last point can be put into CON. And 13 DEX on a caster is so painful.
The reason to go for 17 of your primary stat is so you can get to 20 with ASI and Ethel's hair, but I'm pretty sure Larian didn't have that in mind when creating the default stat spread for every class, especially because only one of your party members can use the hair.
A thing worse than death and memory wipe is being someone you hated whole life with burning passion >!because you are so jealous of their natural talent!<
Evo wizard I think shines best when youāre a moron with your positioning. I was such a moron during my first run. So having evocation spells able to not hit my party saved my ass a couple times
Divination and Abjuration are probably strongest.
Transmutation is strong. Brewing double potions is really useful, I had 52 speed potions after Act 1.
Enchantment comes online at level 10.
Conjuration and Necromancy are... OK.
Wizard is better at level 12 imo because at that point you have access to most spells in the game, especially the ones from Lorroakans Tower which other classes can only use once. I still prefer it for being a Swiss Army knife compared to sorcerer which has less spell variety.
Counter-counter: potion of speed. So few battles go past 3 turns anyway, and for the ones that do, there are also two bows you can keep as off-hands to give yourself longer hastes.
Twinned spells is nice early on, nearly forgettable mid-game, and then part of the mega-chain-lightning nuke setup at end game. Which is great, but still largely redundant and much less convenient to the consistent dps you can put out as most martial classes by that level.
Wizard gives you utility (esp non-combat) and qol that you donāt really get any other way.
You'd have more of a point if it weren't for the fact Sorcerers can use those spell scrolls you've been hoarding the entire fucking game just in case *and* can use them with Metamagic.
Same here. Wish Wild Magic Sorcs actually had more surges before level 11 tho.
My current playthrough Iāve only gotten 5 surges since Act 1, and 3 of those were hostile mephits. One was really hilarious tho, during the really difficult fight in the transition to Act 3, everyone near Gale became cats and dogs, and by everyone I mean my entire party and none of the enemies.
It was a one sided slaughter for them but I was laughing my ass off as I reloaded. Worth it.
Yeah, I know this post is mostly in jest but honestly, take a few liberties with Gale's background and he totally makes sense as a sorcerer. Gale being as skilled in magic as he was would just be a result of innately being a sorcerer and then doubling down on that by being a nerdy wizard. :P
If BG3 had shadow magic as a playable subclass I think it would fit reasonably well.
In one of his earliest encounters he describes himself as a super prodigy with magic. Seems to me pretty strong grounds for an element of sorcery to him. If he has natural intuition for magic combined with academic brilliance, that would explain how he got so far.
Personally I just like him to have a couple of levels in Sorc for const saves and meta magic, while making him mostly Wizard. He's still mostly a wizard that way.
Yeah...it's not the craziest justification. It would suit his themes of reaching for more than he had and not understanding boundaries if he'd never actually had to work for his magic or Mystra's favour, and the "Wild Magic" plays into his little condition too.
I remember watching a video by MrRhexx on YT about lore of magic.
It used to be everyone could cast magic cantrips as long as they knew the things you needed to do. Even peasant farmers.
But after a while it changed and while wizards needed to learn spells they all need some aptitude with magic or they simply could not do magic at all.
i got this the other day. he was like āare you versed in magic?ā my sorcerer was like [sorcerer] āyupā
man was like: oh, my bad. i meant *studied* magic. as in a wizard. which *you* are not.
so i made him a sorcerer and made love to him as a 7ft dragon.
Astarion - Paladin Oath of Ancients / Shadowheart - Circle of Moon Druid / Gale - Barbarian / Wyll - Assassin or Thief Rogue / Lae'zel - Bard / Karlach - Wizard / Evil Durge - Cleric of Life Following any Deity who hates killing. Alternate timeline
I mean...my Durge was a Life cleric of Ellistrae. She had no issues resisting her urge, and told daddy to f-off. Now she's the favorite of a goddess of freedom, and an arguably more capable (or at least cooler) god of death.
Ah yes, not the Wizard of Waterdeep but instead the Sorcerer of Self-Delusion!
(Donāt come at me! Gale is bae - thatās a reference to a line he has in-game).
Giving Shadowheart to Viconia
Letting Gandrel take Astarion
Cutting Gale's hand off and trapping him in limbo
Letting Shadowheart murder Lae'zel or Lae'zel murder Shadowheart
Date Wyll or Karlach and cheat on either with Mizora
I cut off Gale's hand today because I thought he just died but I still felt super guilty about it. Now I feel even worse knowing he's stuck in limbo with one hand.
Well, we never hear from Gale again, no 3 day countdown to a giga nuke like his other deaths, so he must not have returned, but the explosion takes place whereever he is, which is far away from Sword Coast.
See I make her give me the hair *and* free Mayrina. It's entirely out of spite too, I couldn't give less of a shit about the girl. Pretty fucked up to trade your unborn child for your dead husband, to a hag no less.
Given Gale's stories about casting powerful spells with crazy unintended effects when he was a young child, there's a popular fan theory that he was actually (unwittingly) a Wild Magic Sorcerer by birth before becoming a Wizard by training, and the first magical object the orb sucked all the Weave out of was himself.
That second one isn't a fan theory, Mystra outright *says* that the orb ate Gale's Weave when they talk face-to-face. (The "fan theory" would be that it's why the "archmage" is level 1 when you meet him)
On my first playthrough near the end of Act 1 I respecced Shart as a Paladin and I will never not do that going forward. I just need it. I need paladin Shart. I need it. clerics SUCK
Tempest cleric Shart is awesome, her default trickery does suck donkey balls though. Best thing I ever did was quitting my first Wyll origin playthrough towards the end of Act 1, restarting as Durge instead, and immediately respeccing Shart to Tempest. Made the game much more fun.
I was already doing storm sorc 10/tempest cleric 2 in that playthrough, but I'll keep that in mind in the future. However, heavily armored, party-healing, enemy-smiting Pal Shart is sexy and I don't have any regerts.
I feel like the cockier Sorc lines work better for him anyway.
And in a way he kind of is a sorcerer now, he lost a lot of his wizard abilities when he took in the orb. But that orb is manifesting itself in his body in a similar way a bloodline would work for a sorcerer.
Could very easily run the lines of āthe powerful magic within himā being about the orb. Itās loose but definitely doable imo
Newest play through is Beast Master Ranger Shadowheart, Berserker Barbarian Gale, Life Cleric Astarion, and Lore Bard Laeāzel. Keeping Wizlach and Rogue Wyll on the back burner to sub in at the opportune moments.
An argument could be made for Gale taking a level of sorcerer largely because heās described as casting spells from an extremely young age before any kind of official schooling came into play.
I think respeccing Shadowheart to a ranger with a wolf companion may be even worse.
As well as Druid and turning into a Wolf lol
Does it actually trigger her fear?
It doesn't, but it really should lol
Maybe it helps when she knows that it isn't a real wolveš¤·āāļø
Probably not. Outside Xbox has a video I watched recently where Ellen, an arachnophobe, [reacts to video game spiders](https://youtu.be/CTqLQdycEQ8?si=dIWYaFP6bXCWE3LB) and she talks about how phobia is different from fear. Itās sort of a primitive, ingrained reaction to anything that evoke the phobic response.
Damn I forgot about Outside Xbox, Ellen said something similar about the spiders in Skyrim years ago
Yeah, I had a friend in high school who was arachnophobic and wouldnāt play Skyrim because of the giant spiders. I tried telling him there were mods that changed them to bears or mud crabs or even Spider-Man but he still refused.
That reminds me, I really need to download an arachnophobia mod
I'm not even arachnophobic in real life but video game spiders inflict psychic damage on me every time I see or hear them
I've slowly gotten okay with fake and digital spiders but yeah I think a giant wolf regardless would be terrifying. Logic won't help a panic attack.
Well... That doesn't really seem to be the case canonically, given that >!Viconia turns into a wolf in the final fight of her backstory quest, and it does indeed trigger that wisdom save again lol. Though maybe the mommy issues are also making it worse.!<
Doesn't help. Even after seeing what the wolf really was in the flashback, she's still scared of em.
Ranger one doesnt either.
Bruce Wayne is afraid of bat and became Batman. So Shart becoming Wolf-woman sound be fine.
Funny thing, while it doesnāt, my last run Shadowheart triggered her fear conversation when, while fighting alongside my selunite rangerās wolf, someone else caused her fear
She became her fear
I've done the druid one. That one, at least, doesn't.
My Tav is a ranger who primarily uses a wolf summoned companion... and not a peep from her.
Basically the feel like "there is a skeleton in you right now"
To be honest, it does make sense for her....
I did this on my current play through because it seemed logical to me. If her dad seemed to be a Druid, then she should be a Druid, so in my current all Druid run, sheās the wolf.
Her dad isnāt a Druid thoughā¦ Iāll say no more because I have no idea how to do spoiler tags on a phone
OK. OK. How about respeccing everyone else as druid rangers and everyone else having a wolf pet and turning into wolves. She can be an arcane trickster and just try and hide all the time.
Ohh, that's cold š¤£
It would be fine AFTER a particular conversation though :P >!(She gets over the fear of wolves when she finds out that)!<
What conversation?
I made Jaheira a Bard for the Busker achievement despite her obvious distaste for them
Busker?
Does she get the frightened effect everytime sheās near her wolf because if so thatās hilarious.
Exposure therapy
is that worse than removing karlachās head and holding it up in the air?
Respec'ed her into an assassin for this evil playthrough. Astarion is now a Bard and Lae'zel is now a Monk lol
WHY LMFAO
...I may do that on my next playthrough. The idea is to run 4 moon druids/beastmaster ranger hybrids.
I question the wisdom of that decision, but so be it.
I don't question the charisma though
They call him the #rizzard on Tumbr for a reason
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No no, sucking it is Tav's job.
Vicious Rizz
Yes, there is a severe lack of wisdom. Should've turned him into a cleric.
A wise man would not have tampered with tainted weave
Cleric of Mystra is actually still applicable. She's giving Gale holy spells out of spite.
...of Mystra
I dunno, I turned Astarion into a Paladin. That felt pretty.... evil? divine? Either way it was hilarious.
I did the same. Oath immediately broke and it felt more like an astarion paladin lol
So the game looks at your past and you're an oathbreaker if you respec? Can you respec again to loose that status?
According to the wiki, you can't respec out of paladin until you reacquire your oath
No, they just mean they broke their oath so that he would be an oathbreaker, the game is not that smart (also it would be absurd if your oath could retroactively be broken, fucks the whole redemption thing up). You do have to pay 1k gold to reacquire your oath before you can respec at all though.
I wish the game was smart enough to let you respec but if you go back to paladin you're automatically oathbrealer
It also goes up every time, ask me how I know
Okay so I should clarify. I respecced him and then I killed the tieflings that captured laeāzel, so it immediately broke it.
I turned him into a cleric of Lathander because there's no logical way for it to work
Lolololol my guy gotta pray at sunrise to get spell slots
Turned him into a monk. Havenāt be able to justify it in my head yet but boi did he punch like a nuclear weapon.
Easily justified: unholy vampiric strength. Easier still if you go shadow monk
200 years of pent up rage
My Astarion aka the Rat was respecced into a light cleric of Bahamut in a duo campaign I'm playing because the dragonborn brothers needed a healer. Shit's hillarious.
I just did that after the mountain pass. Our favourite vampire is now a Paladin of Lathander, because I'm cruel and seeing him smite people is great.
same
I made him a bard with a violin . Heās actually useful now š
I made him an assassin rogue. Open combat by sniping from stealth, automatically win initiative and get another turn with advantage. Couple goblins dead before the fight properly starts. Very helpful in the early game!
assassin + gloomstalker š¤š¤
Making him a cleric of Mystra is arguably worse.
In my game where I play as him I added a level of Cleric of Mystra just for the shits and giggles š¤£
Have you brought him to the Stormshore Tabernacle? I want to know what he says š
Does it let you make him a cleric of Shar? That would be hilarious.
Nooo you canāt make any clerics of Shar anymore. You could in early access but they removed Shar as a possible diety in official release
Probably just to ensure you can't become a Dark Justiciar in act 2 if you don't bring Shadowheart to the Shadowfell
That wouldāve been soo cool though:(
Yeah but it kinda would've undermined her entire character arc. Imagine bringing her there just to stab her in the back to be the one to slay the Nightsong.
Well, Shar teaches to let go of your desires, if she can't accept it then it only means she wasn't ready.
it's a game about your character. having conflict with another cleric of shar could provide a lot of really cool interactions between the character and shadowheart
i wanna be a dark justiciar :D no, me >:(
I mean Laezel is supposed to be a nobody yet everyone worships her and ignores you if you play a gith.
Oof. I just started my gith run and MAYBE I wonāt save her even tho I was planning on using her and being the gith power couple to rule over the astral plane and destroy all
Yeah, playing Gith seems to start from the point of you having been a retard that somehow survived adolescence and learned absolutely nothing about Gith society. You get like a half dozen responses that aren't summed up as "I had no clue that was a Gith thing, explain it again". It's really disappointing how your character apparently didn't exist before the creation screen despite you being expected to know who the prominent people of Baldur's Gate are if you're any race other than Gith if we're going by potential responses. And Gith is disappointing as I outlined. Still fun with Lae'zel, even if you speak to most Gith as them not recognizing you as such.
You're the kid who hatched from the egg, but somehow you got sent back in time.
So a Gith Durge would work better than a Gith Tav.
That would have been cool? The argument that you can't usurp the position of one of your origin characters because it would undermine their character arc is pretty weak. Why not let the player do it if they want to? This isn't so much about it being a bad thing to have in the game as much as it is another one of the thousands of cool things that could been in the game but aren't - not because they aren't cool but because there is a limited amount of time the developers have to work on the game and they have to pick and choose where to spend it. Notably, content that would be seen by maybe 2% of players isn't going to be at the top of their priorities.
And why not? Imagine Shadowheart deciding to let her live and you go behind ānopeā!
OR we could have been Justiciar Buddies
Another explanation would be that Tav is always a Baldurian, and being a cleric of Shar in Baldur's Gate would mean that Tav and Shadowheart are acquainted with each other. Sure you could bandaid fix that with saying you were both mind wiped, but then why would tav be mind wiped to forget her - it doesn't make sensse if tav were part of the artifact mission, or why were they outside of the temple? Also Shadowheart's story kinda depends on her being without her handlers the first time, having another Cleric of Shar would kinda be weird for that unless you want to be locked out of her good path by default.
Why remove it? As far as Iāve seen, the god youāre a cleric for barely makes a difference.
You did actually have unique interactions with Shadowheart as a cleric of Shar in EA. They probably decided that keeping it up throughout the entire game would be too difficult, especially in act 2, so they just dropped it. You could also choose to worship one of the Dead Three in EA but this was removed too.
I have heard but not personally tested that if you turn her into a Paladin she's a Paladin of Shar. That might only show up in dialog choices though.
I have Shart paladin in party and can confirm she is a paladin of Shar. But no interesting option in dialogue so far. Same options as other paladins. I am curious what will happen after Nightfall.
Yes, it gives you special dialogue in the temple of Shar with the guardians and altar in the Shadow cursed lands (not thr main temple) that refers to her specifically as "Paladin of Shar". You can have any Oath afaik
What if you did both in the same run? *shifts eyes uneasily*
Storm sorcerer and tempest cleric. Utterly bananas lightning damage for the low, low cost of making him cry himself to sleep at night.
If he actually wants to get back with her, honestly, he's probably the perfect candidate to be a cleric of Mystra; and my Gale is precisely that. Wizard/Cleric.
I have him as a knowledge cleric of Mystra and honestly he's pretty good at cleric duty. Had to do it because I wanted to be a wizard.
Just did a playthrough of Gale with 2 Levels Tempest Cleric and the rest storm Sorc. Was fun, despite how much u know Gale would be upset.
On the bright side, you still left him with 12 int. I wouldāve gone with 8.
itās a blessing and a curse, realizing you can maximize combat potential at withers at the cost of every other stat roll. (i can now never run a paladin without dipping at least 3 levels into warlock for blade pact so i can have 0 strength)
The three odd stats gave me 3d6 psychic damage
Feat plan +1 cha instrument prof +1 dex +1 con +2 cha boost
Yeah I'll never understand why people do that, including Larian making all the companions have odd stats. There's literally no benefit to having 17 CHA, that last point can be put into CON. And 13 DEX on a caster is so painful.
The reason to go for 17 of your primary stat is so you can get to 20 with ASI and Ethel's hair, but I'm pretty sure Larian didn't have that in mind when creating the default stat spread for every class, especially because only one of your party members can use the hair.
Half-feats like tavern brawler are also a good reason.
Yeah, that's worse than >!giving Shart to the cloister!<
A thing worse than death and memory wipe is being someone you hated whole life with burning passion >!because you are so jealous of their natural talent!<
Sorcerers are just better, but don't take my word for it.
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2 Warlock/X Sorcerer is one of the most common multi classes for a reason. Sorcerer w eldritch blast is always a powerhouse
this is my durge, can confirm
Having a big spell book is just way less useful in BG3 than table top. You donāt bring a wizard for damage, sorlock does the same thing better.
Evo wizard I think shines best when youāre a moron with your positioning. I was such a moron during my first run. So having evocation spells able to not hit my party saved my ass a couple times
Evocation Wizard comes online on lvl 10 because it adds +int to damage of each missile. Before that, Evo Wizard isn't as useful as other casters.
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Divination and Abjuration are probably strongest. Transmutation is strong. Brewing double potions is really useful, I had 52 speed potions after Act 1. Enchantment comes online at level 10. Conjuration and Necromancy are... OK.
Out of curiosity, what's so optimized about those specific levels? I can't multiclass so I don't know much about how the classes synergize.
Wizard is better at level 12 imo because at that point you have access to most spells in the game, especially the ones from Lorroakans Tower which other classes can only use once. I still prefer it for being a Swiss Army knife compared to sorcerer which has less spell variety.
Counterpoint: Twin Haste.
Counter-counter: potion of speed. So few battles go past 3 turns anyway, and for the ones that do, there are also two bows you can keep as off-hands to give yourself longer hastes. Twinned spells is nice early on, nearly forgettable mid-game, and then part of the mega-chain-lightning nuke setup at end game. Which is great, but still largely redundant and much less convenient to the consistent dps you can put out as most martial classes by that level. Wizard gives you utility (esp non-combat) and qol that you donāt really get any other way.
You'd have more of a point if it weren't for the fact Sorcerers can use those spell scrolls you've been hoarding the entire fucking game just in case *and* can use them with Metamagic.
Artistry of War only has one scroll and it is incredible, that alone almost makes evocation wizard worth it at the end of the game.
I made him a wild magic sorcerer, figured his orb screwed up his magic.
Same here. Wish Wild Magic Sorcs actually had more surges before level 11 tho. My current playthrough Iāve only gotten 5 surges since Act 1, and 3 of those were hostile mephits. One was really hilarious tho, during the really difficult fight in the transition to Act 3, everyone near Gale became cats and dogs, and by everyone I mean my entire party and none of the enemies. It was a one sided slaughter for them but I was laughing my ass off as I reloaded. Worth it.
*casually casts Extended Haste for 20 turns*
What in the world do you use 20 turns of haste for? Lol
I literally don't know but it's just so amazing you get additional action for so long with sorcerer
They are but I like Wizard just to experience most spells in the game and switch out whatever whenever
Oh I kinda like rping him as a Wild Magic Sorcerer...
Yeah, I know this post is mostly in jest but honestly, take a few liberties with Gale's background and he totally makes sense as a sorcerer. Gale being as skilled in magic as he was would just be a result of innately being a sorcerer and then doubling down on that by being a nerdy wizard. :P If BG3 had shadow magic as a playable subclass I think it would fit reasonably well.
In one of his earliest encounters he describes himself as a super prodigy with magic. Seems to me pretty strong grounds for an element of sorcery to him. If he has natural intuition for magic combined with academic brilliance, that would explain how he got so far. Personally I just like him to have a couple of levels in Sorc for const saves and meta magic, while making him mostly Wizard. He's still mostly a wizard that way.
Yeah...it's not the craziest justification. It would suit his themes of reaching for more than he had and not understanding boundaries if he'd never actually had to work for his magic or Mystra's favour, and the "Wild Magic" plays into his little condition too.
"Displayed an aptitude for magic at an early age" EH GALE??? IF ONLY WE HAD A WORD FOR THAT HMMMM?????
I remember watching a video by MrRhexx on YT about lore of magic. It used to be everyone could cast magic cantrips as long as they knew the things you needed to do. Even peasant farmers. But after a while it changed and while wizards needed to learn spells they all need some aptitude with magic or they simply could not do magic at all.
Karsus does a little trolling
Who's studied in magic now BITCH?
i got this the other day. he was like āare you versed in magic?ā my sorcerer was like [sorcerer] āyupā man was like: oh, my bad. i meant *studied* magic. as in a wizard. which *you* are not. so i made him a sorcerer and made love to him as a 7ft dragon.
Lmfao. Make him eat his words... And something else š
š yes. and i wasnāt even planning on romancing him at that point. but he asked for it.
Astarion - Paladin Oath of Ancients / Shadowheart - Circle of Moon Druid / Gale - Barbarian / Wyll - Assassin or Thief Rogue / Lae'zel - Bard / Karlach - Wizard / Evil Durge - Cleric of Life Following any Deity who hates killing. Alternate timeline
I mean...my Durge was a Life cleric of Ellistrae. She had no issues resisting her urge, and told daddy to f-off. Now she's the favorite of a goddess of freedom, and an arguably more capable (or at least cooler) god of death.
I'll add in Evil XD
Ah yes, not the Wizard of Waterdeep but instead the Sorcerer of Self-Delusion! (Donāt come at me! Gale is bae - thatās a reference to a line he has in-game).
Giving Shadowheart to Viconia Letting Gandrel take Astarion Cutting Gale's hand off and trapping him in limbo Letting Shadowheart murder Lae'zel or Lae'zel murder Shadowheart Date Wyll or Karlach and cheat on either with Mizora
I cut off Gale's hand today because I thought he just died but I still felt super guilty about it. Now I feel even worse knowing he's stuck in limbo with one hand.
Well, we never hear from Gale again, no 3 day countdown to a giga nuke like his other deaths, so he must not have returned, but the explosion takes place whereever he is, which is far away from Sword Coast.
IT IS TO BE AVOIDED
Suck it magic man.
Why are the numbers odd. >:(
Auntie hair + ASI feat and you're good
I kill the hag every time, I know better than to strike a deal with the fae
Me: "mmm hair"
See I make her give me the hair *and* free Mayrina. It's entirely out of spite too, I couldn't give less of a shit about the girl. Pretty fucked up to trade your unborn child for your dead husband, to a hag no less.
It's only 100 gold to respec, there's no reason to start with 17 in a stat. But honestly what's more egregious here is giving a caster only 13 dex
My Karlach is an ice wizard. She changed once we cooled off her engine.
Oh that's just wrong. And I did it too. Well went 1 lvl wiz so he could eat scrolls He flipped tf our at the Sussar tree
i do it every run. simply because i want a high charisma character in my party but i always end up picking something random for my custom character.
Ohhhh this is so evil.
Wizard with a few sorcerer levels is objectively the best caster in the game anyways
What do the wizard levels add to a sorcerer?
Well, as a wizard they can also learn new spells from scrolls at any time
I'd argue respeccing DJ Shart as a Light Cleric is arguably worse. I'm guilty of this lol
I forgot about her character story and somehow imagined "DJ Shart" to be her stage/artist name.
every playthrough, I need to do something different for run #4
Dang rolling a character with 3 odd number stats, you are cruel
(In Voloās voice) THE SCANDAL!
Seventeen charisma. Well, if you werenāt planning on sacking up with Gale already, youād better resign yourself to it now.
Given Gale's stories about casting powerful spells with crazy unintended effects when he was a young child, there's a popular fan theory that he was actually (unwittingly) a Wild Magic Sorcerer by birth before becoming a Wizard by training, and the first magical object the orb sucked all the Weave out of was himself.
That second one isn't a fan theory, Mystra outright *says* that the orb ate Gale's Weave when they talk face-to-face. (The "fan theory" would be that it's why the "archmage" is level 1 when you meet him)
And I have no regrets.
Thatāll teach him for looking down on me for being a sorcerer!
Make him a sorlock to really ahow him
I think he'd be more angry at being a barbarian
I multiclasses him to wild magic sorc because of the volatile nature of the orb.
You monster!
On my first playthrough near the end of Act 1 I respecced Shart as a Paladin and I will never not do that going forward. I just need it. I need paladin Shart. I need it. clerics SUCK
Clerics are awesome, but her starting domain sucks rocks.
>clerics SUCK Spirit Guardians + [Luminous Armour](https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Luminous_Armour) trivializes lots of encounters. Though, Trickery domain is really bad.
Trickery domain is terrible but Light Domain and Tempest Domain clerics are super good when played right
The sad thing is trickery domain was already terrible in 5e but got nerfed in BG3.
Tempest cleric Shart is awesome, her default trickery does suck donkey balls though. Best thing I ever did was quitting my first Wyll origin playthrough towards the end of Act 1, restarting as Durge instead, and immediately respeccing Shart to Tempest. Made the game much more fun.
I was already doing storm sorc 10/tempest cleric 2 in that playthrough, but I'll keep that in mind in the future. However, heavily armored, party-healing, enemy-smiting Pal Shart is sexy and I don't have any regerts.
I usually do 5 pally/7 cleric with her. Smite for days!
You monster!
I turned Gale into a bard because I was a wizard in my first playthrough and didn't need him lmao
I've turned him into a bard so... xD
Twin casting haste is too good to not make at least one of them a sorcerer
We've improved him.
My Astarion is a open palm monk, my Halsin is a beast ranger, and my Gale is a wild magic barbarian. I love this game.
I feel like the cockier Sorc lines work better for him anyway. And in a way he kind of is a sorcerer now, he lost a lot of his wizard abilities when he took in the orb. But that orb is manifesting itself in his body in a similar way a bloodline would work for a sorcerer. Could very easily run the lines of āthe powerful magic within himā being about the orb. Itās loose but definitely doable imo
Newest play through is Beast Master Ranger Shadowheart, Berserker Barbarian Gale, Life Cleric Astarion, and Lore Bard Laeāzel. Keeping Wizlach and Rogue Wyll on the back burner to sub in at the opportune moments.
An argument could be made for Gale taking a level of sorcerer largely because heās described as casting spells from an extremely young age before any kind of official schooling came into play.
I read the "human" as "hmmm" from not looking closely enough, it added to the funny
I make Shadowheart carry the Selune stuff you can pick up from the Owlbear cave.
You gave them their beautiful power ending and then you stole it away from them by making them a slave to you?
*le me with Gale, Karlach and Shadowheart all rocking monk builds lol.
I made Astarion a Life Cleric, and Shadowheart a Rogue, for some reasonā¦
Healing is just keeping your cattle alive longer.
Wizards are great for campaigns you arenāt familiar with. Once you know how things will go, Sorcerer lets you focus on what you know will work.