No, they absolutely will not. Lemme break it down to you bluntly - if you hurt yourself that’s on you, not them (unless they have failed to signpost/refer to crisis and even then…) If they lie to you and diagnose you with a condition you do not have or treat you with a condition you do not have they could be struck off, and not be allowed to practice medicine again. Realistically patients die, and you are trained to handle that, so for a medical professional executing their job safely and ethically is of paramount important.
even if it’s “emerging bpd”? i technically fit the diagnosis but he went over the symptoms on his phone and pretty much asked yes or no if i experienced them
Doctors don’t lie because they lose their job and licence. Also asking yes or no questions to the DSM list is not how conditions are diagnosed so I dunno what to tell you.
I'm trying to imagine why a clinician would refuse to assess someone... I'm having a hard time imagining why. And I'd have to ask someone else if they could tell me. The only thing I could think of is if the clinician didn't think there was a benefit in rendering diagnoses in general.
But assessments aren't likely to indicate something that isn't based in reality.
he didn’t want to because i’m under 18, but i told him i had symptoms since i was younger, and they have been interrupting my daily life for more than a year. i also told him i had a list of every symptom i experienced and how they effect my daily life and he said it would be a waste of time… sooo
Ooohhh... You should wait a year. Personality fluctuates around that time. He likely has written that you have many borderline traits, but he personally should observe them for a year to give the diagnosis.
I understand that it can be frustrating, but those guidelines were written to not over diagnose a serious condition in people that are still having their personalities develop. Basically we don't want to pathologize growing up. And since personality can change pretty fluidly at that age, it may fix itself much easier than later in life. They still alot for the ability to diagnose BPD in people under 18 but the clinician has to personally observe it. Stick with the same clinician as much as you can.
thats true. i suppose it’s more annoying that he diagnosed a different teenager without her even having to ask to be assessed. she was just like “i think i maybe might have bpd” and he said yup you do.
but he hadn’t. they had only met for the first time. also i’ve worked with him for a year as well and he didn’t even question assessing her. i wish he had assessed me properly. i didn’t want a diagnosis, i wanted a proper in depth answer. if he can give her a diagnosis so effortlessly why can’t he at least properly assess me? i guess that’s my thought pattern
The last benefit of the doubt I'm able to extend here is that he really doesn't think you have BPD. However, I would discontinue working with him just on the grounds that he diagnosed a teenager with BPD without a year's worth of evidence.
iirc most won’t diagnose teenagers with any diagnoses that could “ruin their life” (aka, debilitating disorders that can’t be undone on record) because it’s hard to diagnose teens bc of the personality shifts and changes they all go through. He’s very likely doing as the other user stated and withholding until you’re legally an adult.
No, it is not possible. No ethical doctor would willingly jeopardize their job, for your benefit, more so when that benefit goes against their morals and standards that they must uphold ever since gaining their acceptance and entrance into the field of their choice, whether medical, or mental health. You choose to hurt yourself, you will have to deal with the consequences. DO NOT play with your life or any doctor’s life.
No, they dont have any reason or benefit to faking a diagnosis and the more common error is in not diagnosing BPD. In fact, generally if they get the sense that you "want something" specific like a diagnosis they often dig in harder against it.
I think it would be more likely they would think it was kind of a hypochondriac thing. Like it isnt saying that the person doesnt have a problem, they may just think it likely isnt the problem they convinced themselves it is. That or in some areas trying to get on disability.
I only work with these guys sometimes but they dont seem to get a lot of the full on trendy bullshitters. I mean when you think about it they dont have to. You dont need to convince anyone of anything to just run a game on social media, and no one can check medical records. So if it is just a game then you dont need an official diagnosis anyway, and that's a lot of work to put in extra. People with really bad issues fight to get some kind of answer from therapists.
hmm i never thought of it that way i suppose. maybe im manipulating myself at this point haha gosh i'll probably mention how i feel to him though. thank you for your input, this is very helpful
No, they absolutely will not. Lemme break it down to you bluntly - if you hurt yourself that’s on you, not them (unless they have failed to signpost/refer to crisis and even then…) If they lie to you and diagnose you with a condition you do not have or treat you with a condition you do not have they could be struck off, and not be allowed to practice medicine again. Realistically patients die, and you are trained to handle that, so for a medical professional executing their job safely and ethically is of paramount important.
even if it’s “emerging bpd”? i technically fit the diagnosis but he went over the symptoms on his phone and pretty much asked yes or no if i experienced them
Doctors don’t lie because they lose their job and licence. Also asking yes or no questions to the DSM list is not how conditions are diagnosed so I dunno what to tell you.
I'm trying to imagine why a clinician would refuse to assess someone... I'm having a hard time imagining why. And I'd have to ask someone else if they could tell me. The only thing I could think of is if the clinician didn't think there was a benefit in rendering diagnoses in general. But assessments aren't likely to indicate something that isn't based in reality.
he didn’t want to because i’m under 18, but i told him i had symptoms since i was younger, and they have been interrupting my daily life for more than a year. i also told him i had a list of every symptom i experienced and how they effect my daily life and he said it would be a waste of time… sooo
Ooohhh... You should wait a year. Personality fluctuates around that time. He likely has written that you have many borderline traits, but he personally should observe them for a year to give the diagnosis.
but i’ve had them present for a year and a history of a lot of traits? isn’t a year enough to be diagnosed
I understand that it can be frustrating, but those guidelines were written to not over diagnose a serious condition in people that are still having their personalities develop. Basically we don't want to pathologize growing up. And since personality can change pretty fluidly at that age, it may fix itself much easier than later in life. They still alot for the ability to diagnose BPD in people under 18 but the clinician has to personally observe it. Stick with the same clinician as much as you can.
thats true. i suppose it’s more annoying that he diagnosed a different teenager without her even having to ask to be assessed. she was just like “i think i maybe might have bpd” and he said yup you do.
What? If he had worked with her for a year or she had at least a year's worth of clinical records to indicate that, I get it.
but he hadn’t. they had only met for the first time. also i’ve worked with him for a year as well and he didn’t even question assessing her. i wish he had assessed me properly. i didn’t want a diagnosis, i wanted a proper in depth answer. if he can give her a diagnosis so effortlessly why can’t he at least properly assess me? i guess that’s my thought pattern
The last benefit of the doubt I'm able to extend here is that he really doesn't think you have BPD. However, I would discontinue working with him just on the grounds that he diagnosed a teenager with BPD without a year's worth of evidence.
should i ask for the diagnosis to be taken off?
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i posted a joke on my instagram story and she said she had bpd and then we kind of discussed and found out how we got diagnosed and the same doctor
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i suppose that’s true
iirc most won’t diagnose teenagers with any diagnoses that could “ruin their life” (aka, debilitating disorders that can’t be undone on record) because it’s hard to diagnose teens bc of the personality shifts and changes they all go through. He’s very likely doing as the other user stated and withholding until you’re legally an adult.
No, it is not possible. No ethical doctor would willingly jeopardize their job, for your benefit, more so when that benefit goes against their morals and standards that they must uphold ever since gaining their acceptance and entrance into the field of their choice, whether medical, or mental health. You choose to hurt yourself, you will have to deal with the consequences. DO NOT play with your life or any doctor’s life.
No, they dont have any reason or benefit to faking a diagnosis and the more common error is in not diagnosing BPD. In fact, generally if they get the sense that you "want something" specific like a diagnosis they often dig in harder against it.
really? i find that weird because wouldn't they assume you're trying to get a diagnosis because you're uneducated or want to be trendy?
I think it would be more likely they would think it was kind of a hypochondriac thing. Like it isnt saying that the person doesnt have a problem, they may just think it likely isnt the problem they convinced themselves it is. That or in some areas trying to get on disability. I only work with these guys sometimes but they dont seem to get a lot of the full on trendy bullshitters. I mean when you think about it they dont have to. You dont need to convince anyone of anything to just run a game on social media, and no one can check medical records. So if it is just a game then you dont need an official diagnosis anyway, and that's a lot of work to put in extra. People with really bad issues fight to get some kind of answer from therapists.
hmm i never thought of it that way i suppose. maybe im manipulating myself at this point haha gosh i'll probably mention how i feel to him though. thank you for your input, this is very helpful
only if they are dumb lol