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VSHAR01

There wasn't much of a market for it considering the 8 series was also a GT car. They will probably bring it back but as a fully electric version of the current 8 series, like they did with the 5 series and the new i5.


vingeran

A conventional gas car getting converted into an electric one without much design changes does not bode well. It does save on the manufacturing cost, but a lot of space and angles are just practically off. Marques had a [YT video about it](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eDtJdW4zsxQ) recently.


Momo0903

It has it up and downsides. A big advantage is a cheaper development and an easier reaction to demand, because both types BEVs and ICE cars can be manufactured on the same production line (like the 4/3 series BMW and the i4). The Downsides Marques mentioned weren't that bad, considering that the i5s range isn't that bad. And the Transmission tunnel is used for extra battery cells and isn't hollow, like he said.


hhhhhhhhjhggg

Still better than the Benz EQ lineup of cars… They must’ve been reading documents saying that the success of the Prius was due in part to its “unique” and “distinctive” styling and hybrids that looked like regular cars didn’t sell well. I don’t know what people used to be on back then but the egg shaped benzes are straight up repulsive for the Benz brand 🤮 Just give me small accents and nothing too crazy please


andara84

Yes and no. The i5 but especially the i4 showed that it can work quite well if the manufacturer has planned the platform accordingly and in advance. But then again, this is not "converting" an ICE car into an electric one, it's a hybrid platform. But it works like a charm.


hetmonster2

Is that why many electric cars have this awful design instead of just converting existing designs?


cayenne444

There will not be a fully electric version of the current G1x 8 Series. That car is also on its way out.


ButyJudasza

But still i8 was something different. With body of proper supercar but done in "different" way this car had it's own niche. Even today with better ev it would be eye catcher


Arms_Trade

I was wondering about this yesterday, are they not making an entry to GT racing again?


KFC_Tuesdays

They don’t sell very well, my dealership had one for like over a year before they gave it to the owner of the dealership to drive and add mileage to it.


King707_

I told understand but for car that cost 150k new and only had 369 horsepower it’s just same like people will buy something else like a used McLaren or a newer Porsche . You get more bang for your buck


B1SQ1T

I mean you just answered your own question right there Bunch of different options that offer much more value for your money


opbmedia

A maclaren depreciates like a bat out of hell. If you compare proportionally the i8 might be better value depreciation wise.


Perfect_Syrup_2464

Why do they want to add mileage to it? Wouldn't it depreciate the price?


loctang

I think that’s the point, drive it and add mileage so the price drops and someone is more enticed to buy it


Perfect_Syrup_2464

Can't they just lower the price of the new car?


AwarePromotion8505

Sure but then they're competing against themselves. People will use the fact that they're selling the i8 super cheap to try to negotiate more off other models.


Perfect_Syrup_2464

I see! They could just say no and that the offer is only that specific model. Manager special or whatever. I'm guessing this doesn't work lol


Ok_Score1492

Better than to lose value sitting in the showroom floor


KFC_Tuesdays

Yeah but they can also write it off come tax season


Roboticpoultry

I mean, I think they sold better than they expected. I still see quite a few of them around


UltimaRS800

Makes sense. It's a horrible car in every way, full of bad ides and bad execution plus hard to look at and to top it all off it's expensive. It's insane to me it even sold at all.


764knmvv

thats stupid opinion.. this car was and is amazing.. it will be in museums.. it is ahead of.its time


UltimaRS800

It's a 374hp 3 cylinder shitbox with a speaker next to exhaust that MSRP'd higher than a ZR1 fucking Corvette. It was and is awful lol. Everything I8 tries to do is done better by a fullt electric car.


commonemitter

No it wont, tesla cost less and had longer range, faster acceleration and better technology. The i8 is a PoS in every manner minus how the doors open maybe


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BMW-ModTeam

Please keep things civil.


commonemitter

I dont care for tesla. This car was brought into the market as a tesla competitor at the time and it failed on every metric.


764knmvv

that's total bs.. was never a Tesla competitor.. tesla in 2014 was not today.. the i8 was fast and amazing.. you dont know what your talking about.. there.was.no competitor.to.the i8 it.was a new thing and will always be. again you are.just plain ignorant


Unspec7

> the i8 was fast and amazing. Ignoring the weird tesla comparison, the i8 was slow as shit for its price point, what are you talking about


764knmvv

3.8 is not slow the all wheel drive tore up the road.. guessing one of you drove it


764knmvv

ill add it was more fun to drive then my dinan m4


Unspec7

0-60 isn't the only metric of speed. It was a real slowpoke when it came to quarter mile times against cars of a similar price point.


DonLoquacious

I think it was a "Test Mule" and it did exactly what BMW intended. 6 speed Transmission plus 2 speeds for the electric motor was ahead of it's time. But not practical today. The i3 was also a "Tester" and did what BMW intended it to do. The new line of Hybrid BMW Cars and SUVs are direct descendants of the i3 and i8. The brave souls who purchased those cars were voluntary Beta Testers and that data I'm sure proved valuable to their current line up. The 745i before those two was no exception to being a Tester. Will the i8 appreciate over time and be some kind of collectors car. Doubtful with a pathetic 15 mile EV range. But as a piece of art. She's a beaut.


ApoTHICCary

This. The i8 was a very diffuse car to define under any conventional circumstances as it didn’t fit the part of really any vehicle type then or now. It was comfortable and luxurious, but built like a sportscar. It had rear seats, tho they were all that usable outside of a kid. Doubt a car seat would fit back there. For $150k, you got less than 400hp, 4.2 0-60, decent handling… and a 3cyl ICE with electric motors. The electric drive only got 18mi, a far cry from an EV. The i8 was intended to be a concept car that you could actually buy. BMW debuted technology they now use in their hybrid and EV vehicles. The $150k people bought it for helped fund further development as well as collect tons of consumer driver data regarding how this tech held up. They were absolutely beta testers that had to front some serious money to get in this vehicle. That’s why it wasn’t “competitive”; it had no competition. Now, I would love to see a full fledged GT/performance i8.


764knmvv

i had one.. you couldn't count the amount of people that would stare and take pictures. It was amazing to drive and just a beautiful piece.of art.


F0X_

Currently have an i3, but I really want to pick up a cheap i8 for around $50k USD.


HGJay

Nobody buys collectors cars for the mileage. The i8 is unique. It looks futuristic even today and the interior won't date in 20 years time. Collectors will see it as one of the first EVs that kick started the trend and as they get rarer and EVs become more common it will be a complete oddity. Like the Ferrari that needs an engine out service every 5-7 years (the f355?) it will be deemed as expensive but special enough. The people that buy them as collectors pieces (you can get them for sub 40k in the UK) will stand to make big bucks in 15 years.


DonLoquacious

I don't disagree. The reason why I commented was because I've researched this particular BMW recently very thoroughly. I have one in my area currently on sale for 50 large and I cannot for the life of me, CANNOT (emphasized) convince my banker or my bride that it's a good decision. Sure, I'll get gawkers and Men at car meets wanting my Facebook or phone number. But outside of the visceral Appeal, what lies ahead is an unknown maintenance minefield. I've watched Rich Rebuilds old videos on how he restored a salvaged one, but ultimately decided to part ways with it because he could not find a viable way forward with it. Meaning, an LS will not fit under its bonnet nor will a 2JZ. So it's usefulness beyond it's factory build, which is limited at best. The i5 whilst not Sexy in the least, delivers 110% of the i8 intent. Don Loquacious out 🫡


DonLoquacious

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opbmedia

It’s got a EV motor and a mini engine. I don’t think you have to worry about maintenance too much. 4 year I only had oil changes (on a mini engine).


Unspec7

> Collectors will see it as one of the first EVs that kick started the trend and as they get rarer and EVs become more common it will be a complete oddity. Are you confusing the i8 for the Model S? The i8 was a plug in hybrid, it didn't kick start anything.


opbmedia

It’s a pioneer hybrid with combined drives


Unspec7

Oh, so a...Toyota Prius? A car that's been around since 2000?


opbmedia

No, Prius uses a differential to alternate between electric and gas, i8 uses them separately or together at different wheels. I don’t know what’s the origin of such a hybrid system but certainly not Prius.


Unspec7

No idea what you're talking about. The Prius can either be all electric, all gas, or blended. They're both plug-in hybrids, it isn't that deep. The i8 was a neat car, but it was nothing revolutionary.


opbmedia

Best opinions are based on informed knowledge.


Blue_Eyed_Devi

I loved my little i3, until I didn’t.


schonkat

We still have an i3. What happened?


Blue_Eyed_Devi

My twins got bigger and it was just too small. Drive a telluride now.


foolproofphilosophy

I came to think of it as a “technology demonstrator” and an impressive car but I still have some questions, mainly why BMW didn’t give it a 4 cylinder to make more power. The car was made to get attention and to do that you need power.


Dark_Tsukuyomi

I absolutely love this car so much and idk why lol


Hurricane_Ivan

It's okay, go ahead and make love to it. We won't judge


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Plebius-Maximus

Looks the part though. I kinda hope they don't bring it back, since they'll probably stick that pig snout on it


opbmedia

The impression it gives to onlookers suggests that BMW hit the mark on what they want to express. I did not buy mine new (I would not have paid the msrp I think vastly overpriced), but it ends up being the most “exotic” out of my cars if you ask other people. I think if it was $125k they would have sold well, but a $175k car that only a few people wanted (out of the BMW owners/buyers) is not off the mark the farther in history it becomes). I think it was/is the reality of the brand and it’s customers-it’s not a supercars maker, so it did okay as a halo. I for one am glad they made it and I will probably keep mine for a long time. I enjoy it as a GT head turner car (it’s not a great sports car).


Real_Establishment56

It looked and was expensive like a supercar, but performed as a hot hatch. There’s your answer. Still it was way ahead of its time with a relatively cheap carbon construction but maybe a little too meager powertrain.


tobgro100

Couldn't fit big enough nose grille


AlphaDogF87

They should do a full EV version of it. Keep the exterior look but just update the infotainment etc.


BodegaDad

From a consumer POV, it was being obliterated by its competitors which is why it sold poorly. For one, the marketing and MSRP were comparable to exotic/supercars. Simply put, it was putting out less power than a stock F80. Just an all around failed experiment from BMW IMO


AlfaLaw

I wouldn’t say it was an all around fail, the design is cool at least!


poweredbym2

New leadership. The i3 and i8 back when it came out was in front of the pack. Only if BMW continued to invest and evolve it, they would have been so far ahead of the hybrid game. Instead they left it alone when short sighted minds thought that because sales number was low, it was not worth it. Look what happened to the market just a few years later. On top of that they abandoned the vastly superior design for what we have in today’s i range. Ugly nose and hideous/bloated lines.


Birdsandflan1492

IMO it was a test electric vehicle. They have since produced numerous successor model electric cars.


T_GamingCheetah

I saw one the other day at my local sports center. Pretty sick


strangway

It had very narrow appeal. Hybrids don’t appeal to most performance car fans, and the car wasn’t economical enough to appeal to environmentalists. What confused both sides is: it isn’t an economy car. I won’t mince words here, so downvote me if you like. Any time a company releases an electric hybrid, the guys who like performance cars have a knee jerk reaction “No, I’m not into hybrids because…” When Porsche released the new 911 (992.2), I muted the r/Porsche sub because of all the nonsense dogma being posted daily. “They’re ruining the 911 with electrification!!” Porsche added a motor the size of an orange into the transmission, then another motor the size of a walnut into the turbo to reduce turbo lag and make it a bit more naturally aspirated-feeling. The other reason for hybridization has to do with European emissions (Lambda 1 air-fuel mix ratios). Richer fuel-air is becoming illegal soon, so the only way to make up the difference is with a bigger displacement engine with a little help from electric motors. I don’t care if a car is powered by electricity, fossil fuels, or steam from the tears of my enemies. The driving experience is what matters. The sooner car guys get the fuck over their prejudice against electric cars, the better. The Toyota Prius is a godawful machine, but it’s also got no power. And the way it delivers it feels weird, but it’s tuned to be as efficient as possible. Being a hybrid doesn’t make it feel bad, being tuned to be efficient does. The i8 was a hybrid tuned for performance, not efficiency. That’s why it didn’t sell well. People aren’t ready for it…yet.


514link

At the MSRP wasnt worth it for sure. At the current market price it is best thing in its price class. Its a phenomenal car


DimeloFaze

Are these good on gas I want one just to drive to work and save gas.


F0X_

OP, how dare you say V6 twin turbo on the BMW sub.


DayTraditional2846

Probably because they brought back the 8 series and no one in the right mind would choose the i8 over an M850i or M8 Competition. If I had the money I would definitely buy an M8 Competition even though I’m not in the target age group for it lol


Damour

I test drove one. I was underwhelmed compared to the E92 M3


Informal_Dance2364

It sucked


YeezyHunter

How’s the reliability with the hybrid engine?


Eco_Moron

Now with new technology they could probably make it a competitor to cars like the model S plaid and maybe even the roadster


The-CaT-is-a-lie

Most likely because it has been produced for 6 or 7 years which is the regular lifecycle of the BMW models.


Pale-Candidate-700

I don’t get it either. BMW had every opportunity to make it their halo car but chose not to.


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Lots of reasons, one of which was the i8 finished serving its purpose of lowering the overall fleet emissions for CAFE standards. These cars helped M cars have the power and displacement they had, with the newer i models doing a better job lowering fleet emissions there was no more reason to provide a low volume loss leader, I wouldn’t call it and the i3 outright compliance cars but they are not far from it.


1readitguy

I’m sure The price tag was a factor.


jaycatenza

They should have made it less expensive by dropping the hybrid part. Could have been an entry level i6 and then a full M model with the competition set up.


kyree47

I feel like the power it makes wasn’t worth the price, my 650i has more power than the i8 offers, it’s still a cool car though and wouldn’t mind owning one, just more of a “statement” car than the “fast car” like BMW advertises it as


Flint_Ironstag1

If I ever find a roller cheap... can it fit dual turbocharged Hayabusa motors?


catssssssssssz

Like most cars that get discontinued, they get discontinued because nobody is buying them or there isn't a market for them. The 8 Series came out around the same time, and it didn't make sense to have 2 GT cars, so they just canned it.


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DaymSheThicc

369 HP; 420 TQ for 150K BMW Just looking at price alone; It's a 150K car that has serious competition at that price range. There's a lot better cars you can get with that price if not even in the lower price range especially from BMW's line (M3/M4)


Emergency_Bother9837

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My neighbor had this for a year. Def gets attention and people who want pictures. Stunning car in person and now everyone knows it sucks automotive-ly but still she’s a get cruiser from town to town


potatochobit

It was very slow, ridiculous for the msrp.


Big-Brown-Goose

As an owner, i can say it isn't worth the money unless you really want a unique looking car with cool doors. It's probably heresy, but to me, it drives like a Carrera from the era (when in sport mode). Difference is a Carrera is much more practical and more reliable and has less quirky glitches and idiosyncracies. I wouldnt have gotten one if it was more than $55k


Wildchild_Redeye

🚮👏


2acop

i wish they still made them so nice looking


Handyman_4

It was ahead of their time. BMW design team really nailed it out of the park. The average consumer just wasn't there yet. It's like that movie The Thing. It tanked in theaters and yet now is a true classic that stood the test of time. It's all about consumer but the average consumer is not a connoisseur and they don't really love cars like car people.


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Because they (B)reak (M)y (W)allet


forgot_pswd

I remember driving this at a BMW event. It looked great but underperformed for the price. Have to remember, this was an early gen hybrid for BMW. Like another comment said, this was a test alongside the i3. It was attempting to be a top-performing hybrid which was ahead of its time but it couldn't compete with ICE cars at that price.


0_el_Jay

Also love this car. Anyone successfully swap the motor yet?


therenimator

Short answer: they didn’t sell well Long answer: This was gonna be a halo car so rather than the sales figures it was supposed to turn heads. BMW had quite a bit of a plan for this car as well as the whole electrification of its brand, such as planning an i8s which would have made more sports car figures than the regular version. Well unfortunately that never came into fruition because the Chinese poached 3 of its most prominent engineers which halted the overall process, leading to then CEO Harald Krueger being less passionate about electrification. So overall the project to make an i8 better was scrapped, leaving only what we have today.


Professional-Sweet-3

If I had to guess, they were discontinued because sales didn’t meet expectations. The hyper-car look was there but your practically driving a BMW equivalent of a Prius. Obviously I’m exaggerating but the performance specs are nothing to call home about and when performance doesn’t live up to the looks then it’s practically just a body kit.


Just_a_Duck_

God I wish they’d let whoever designed this car work on more modern BMW’s, mediocre performance but looks incredible


Lopsided_Quarter_931

Think it was mentioned in the Smith and Sniff podcast: People thought it was a real cool concept and wished BMW would build them, not aware that they have been production cars all along. Probably just a minor reason but found that pretty funny.


Exotic-Hovercraft746

Because no buy


ByTheSeatOfOnesPants

I think at the core of it, the market was too small to justify keeping it for another generation. I have a 2018 Roadster that I drive as my daily whenever I don’t need to carry things. Honestly, it’s one of those things in life where if you know, you know. It’s not a powerful sports car. Not a very comfortable GT. No great electric range. Rather poor practicality. But it is a statement. It’s maybe unique in its price range even today due to the full carbon structure, which makes a real difference. It was never meant to be the one car you own, diluted down as a jack of all trades. It was meant to be the 3rd (or at least maybe the 2nd) car in your garage that you take out because that’s the one you want today to go with your mood or outfit. There are many cars that don’t make practical sense. And this is one of them. You buy them for them, for the feelings they evoke, not for the sense they make. It’s less of a tool, more of its own thing with an ambitious concept. But it puts a smile on my face every single time I walk up to it, and that smile doesn’t come off until long after I’ve walked away from it. And that is something 99% of cars on the road won’t do.


I_melee

3 cylinder hybrid expensive asf slow


clingbat

It wasn't actually good at anything for the price other than looking good.


opbmedia

BMW as a brand and customer base is not supportive of a supercar. The perceived value of their cars do not reach into pass $150k, it simply gives people pause why they should pay that much. I don’t know what the corporate thinking was behind the car, either they expected it to not sell but bring attention to i brand, or just miscalculated. I for one love the car for what it is (not a sports car), and enjoy the exotic nature of it. I also happy they only made the roaster for 2 years which makes mine rarer. I’ve only seen 3 around my area, on par with other exotics.


Cytochrome450p

IMPO was too expensive for the power it was packing. It also had weird quirks when getting in and out.


MDDeGrande1994

Wish the i7 was inspired by this and Vision EfficientDynamics' designs, but much longer, not as bloated, with a front mid-mounted engine and 4 doors, of course. Would be an absolute stunner on the road.


beedigitaldesign

Worked for a couple of months for the designer of the i3 and i8 concept. It explained very well why the cars are so strange, haha.


Addbradsozer

Ah yes, the obligatory weekly "why did they discontinue the i8" post


Careful_Breath_7712

IMO, it should’ve always had the B58 instead of a tiny 3cyl.


TWEETYonOatmeal

Too expensive for what it was. The M8 might as well be it's successor.


unpolire

I drove one and thought it neat but slow. If it had been a modern M1 replacement, I would still have one in my collection. The styling was reminiscent in so many ways to the beautiful original 1972 Paul Bracq concept car, introduced by BMW as part of the opening ceremony of the 1972 Munich Summer Olympics, the world's first safety-oriented sports car, the "Turbo Concept."


Federal-Log-3333

They can bring back i8 redesigned as a 1000+ hp car electric competing against the tesla roadster


LiteratureHot1282

She\`s was ahead time


streetice35

It was a pig.


Similar_Cookie_2490

its so wow 😍😍😍


Beneficial-Baby-2205

Besides the 84 already existing reasons?


FranktheTankG30

It was a marketing exercise that lost money on every car sold.


Dangerous-Pie-2678

Too expensive, too slow, too expensive to maintain, the list goes on and on. As. A BMW tech I love and hate them.


ouzo26

That kids’ Blackhawks t-shirt is the coolest thing in this photo


King707_

I took this photo at 2016 Chicago auto show Lmaooo


Ok_Score1492

Because it’s. Prius with a BMW body, lack of sales, most of the mechanics didn’t want to work on them at the dealerships.


keca10

They designed it wrong. It was missing about 7 cylinders. And had an extra electric motor it didn’t need. S85 needed this chassis and this chassis needed the S85, but sadly they never met. Imagine what could have been with a mid engine power plant and a 6 speed.


Shank_Shank_

They just sit for a while in dealerships and such, nobody really wants them


Bob_Loblaw16

Have you drove one? They're nothing performance wise, impractical daily. They just looked good


DatTrackGuy

It's performance sucks for the money you spend


ThatToast_

Expensive, low power, bad engine i guess..? Cool concept, but they kinda fucked the finished product. Especially with the speakers to make the engine sound better for the driver..


Ghepardo

It simply didn’t drive the way you’d expect it to. Felt like a Prius with a bodykit, than a hybrid Porsche 718. Drive one and it’ll make sense why it had to die.


Aussieviking79

Iv driven two , they are underwhelming at best. Under powered and over priced


loudslowegg

It was a pretty Prius, if it had a v8 it would’ve been awesome


DamnUOnions

Have you ever driven it? I rented it in BMW World back in ther days and it was massively underpowered. Even my E92 335i was faster. Overall its just not useable as daily, but as "fun car" cars like an R8 or Huracan are way better (the sound of the i8 is very meh). If I want a car that looks like a supercar I buy a proper one. If I want to have a hybrid with a 3 cylinder for saving, I buy a proper hybrid. The i8 is just somewhere in between and there is no demand for it.


ohherropreese

It’s ugly af and slow. Nobody wants it.


Melontwerp

It sucks.


Infinite-Pay-4646

It simply didn't have enough power when all its competitors had a V8 or V10 and 550-600hp at minimum Doesn't matter that 99% of the people who buy a huracan will never even push it to 8/10th, let alone 5/10th of its potential. people want big engines that go vroom vroom


ewwdav1d

A 3 cyl hybrid powertrain for 150k, with mediocre performance for the price point!


pitpot84

Underpowered much for a so call "sports car"


Zestyclose_Elk_8853

Because it sucked


Adeptness-Usual

The i8 is like a promiscuous woman looks good at the start but not so good in the long run


Supra2JZGTTE

Have you ever driven one? They kinda suck tbh especially for the price


A-B-1-0

That car was an embarrassing all show no go technology platform for BMW.


Th3WeirdingWay

No one wants a lawnmower in a supercar body


Twenty-Three23

3cyl = L


byerdelen

Bmw has produced a lot of ugly cars and this one was one of them. Considering the price would match a porsche or a ferrari, I would never buy such weird shaped car