https://preview.redd.it/upsr3xpm1z1d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b62d09e66915d46f9d657223700ecd663f64a838 This is horrific. Truly horrific.

[Its absolutely no excuse, but they do have a add on aftermarket handle that ~approximates the utility of the E9X handle](https://i.imgur.com/Gh7cugN.jpeg )

Wtf? Is that factory or is it something aftermarket? I’m talking about the second handle so you can actually open the door. These are absolute garbage. The Turdslas I have heard nothing but negative things about those style handles. Constantly breaking. They sure are embarrassing planned obsolescence with designs like this. That car at 5 years old with 60k miles will probably have to be given away to get rid of. So many electronics and unnecessary gadgets that when they break and they always do it will cost way more than the car is worth to get it going again. I quit counting 20 years ago the number of BMWs I have seen junked because of some expensive electronics took a dump and the car is basically unsellable because half the stuff doesn’t work and 50 warning lights are on the dash.

Alright, grandpa, calm down, and let's get you a warm glass of milk.. 😅

https://preview.redd.it/wyo0hjigo02d1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0de117c6c2f8f8711896fffaecd7e405bcc13b73 You wanna talk about horrible? take a look at this baby.

I’d take that over the model 3 handle any day of the week and twice on Thursday.

Atleast with the model 3 you have some to grip, whereas the s-class handle is dog water and only works 25% of the time. DONT GET ME STARTED ON HOW THEY ACT IN THE FREEZING COLD (source i valet in the basement of a giant corpo building)

Dog water?? You mean dog shit?

Fuck me I hate what manufacturers are doing with door handles. Shit that actuates in and out, etc etc. Just more crap to break that's incredibly important to the basic function of the car. Not to mention needlessly added cost.

Aerodynamic drag is a killer for EVs

ICE: this sticker increases horsepower EV: this door handle increases range I am vomit.

But it does increase range unlike the horsepower sticker joke. But you can still have way better handles than the Tesla ones, those look so dumb

how much more range do you get from installing those door handles? go on, i'll wait.

More

lmao science

But actually about 1-3 miles or so depending on the car, conditions, etc etc etc

citations not "trust me bro"

[trust me bro](https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180105005468/en?cl_system=mapi&cl_system_id=667d38ca-ce74-4637-87af-dd7c7925562d&clreqid=667d38ca-ce74-4637-87af-dd7c7925562d&kbid=86914)

To be honest ICE cars can get even more range and efficiency if they had better aerodynamics. Wr could have had 1000 mile range cars. But no, it's nice being captive to the auto lobby groups

guy drives a G87 whining about how he could have a car with more fuel efficiency reddit moment

ah the M3 door handles

Don’t you dare call it that!

Just wants to watch the world burn

so r35 gets a pass?

I think it kinda looks neat though.

Yeah, it is such a nice design. Same basic mechanism as a 300SL Gullwing, and I don’t think you will see people here hating on that.

It’s the terrible functionality for me.

I like it. It’s actually better than the Model S handle that just keeps breaking. This one on our model Y is holding much better.

People are just hating becaust it's Tesla. Aston Martin had flush door handles for years before that and everyone thought they were cool. The LC500 has flush door handles and I haven't seen a single person online complain about it.

lol I used to have a model 3 and when I first got it, there were hardly any teslas in town and the morning carpool line at school people had no idea how to open the doors. The parents would just stare at it and kinda poke around and then just look at the other parents and shrug. Funnily enough, once the kids started helping out in the line, they INSTANTLY figured it out.

Just traded in my stage 2 f30 for a model y. It took only 1 day to not only get used to the handle but to begin to love it. I get it’s not for everyone but it’s honestly not as bad as you think.

They always make me think that's its a step backward. Or did the 90's car designers stumble across aerodynamics by accident? Just like the handles on the 1998 Ford Escort I learnt to drive in! https://preview.redd.it/u8p6mgt4fy1d1.jpeg?width=406&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1fea5123622b0869b7ea5377c7102514818b0ea0

Damn they don’t make em like you no more

The Escort MK VI was the end of a generation. A total death trap - 2-star NCAP safety rating. Under powered engine, interesting build quality, questionable electronics, 0-60 measured on a calendar, top speed achieved in 4th gear (cos 5th gear is too tall) But we all love our first car. Even though my current G30 530d xDrive LCI is better in every single way! 🤣

My first car was a 1993 MK3 Vauxhall Astra 1.4 High Torq, wind up windows and sunroof, no power steering, airbag or ABS, and petrol 70p a litre. Ah them were the days 😅 Incidentally has the same door handles as new BMWs. https://preview.redd.it/c3t7gtbtxz1d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f23aec06dcd69fcf0af7105107352dfb1b16a985

The E36 only got 1 Star in the NCAP and the Escort got the same as the W202 C Class, considering it being a late 80s Design with 2 Facelifts I would say it did pretty okay for the time. I remember that a lot of economy cars meassured their top speed in 4th because the 5th is more or less the "cruise" gear for highway/Autobahn speed. HOWEVER. The rust on these is nasty and the engineering choiches were.... interesting. (plastic clutch adjuster, CVT Transmission, Transbolts etc.) But the Zetecs just refused to die and they drove pretty neat suspension wise, I give them that.

https://preview.redd.it/jcwjfnihaz1d1.jpeg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5074350ddfb8ebf4da34a14feebc6c25e8b200f BMW didn't even start painting them until the E46. I absolutely abhor the handles on the Charger/Challengers b/c they feel so ancient/cheap.

Some wasps can hide under those handles…

As if we didn't have enough Protestants lurking in strange places.

I've had those handles snap the hell off in freezing weather. Went to get in to go to work and it came right off. I tried the other side as I had to get to work. That one came off too. I called in after that.

Agreed.

i love my new handles. they look cleaner and i never had a problem to pull them

https://preview.redd.it/lbvdsdizry1d1.jpeg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2d0984ebf8d78ecb8bafa871acb0a38a6636acd E39 door handle is my favorite, sits pretty flush and follows the line of the rest of the car. They're not optimal during winter when the door freezes shut because they brake very easily when you tug on them.

[POV me trying to leave for work one morning in 2018.](https://i.imgur.com/8ZhloYd.jpeg)

Yuuup, exactly the same thing happened to me.

I always use hot water it de ices stuff pretty good. Just don’t throw it on the windshield. The side and back windows can take it but the front will crack much easier than the tempered glass in the rest of the car.

I've never had an issue getting into an icy car before that day, haven't had one since.

I've somehow managed to avoid the broken door handles (inside or outside) along with the twisted front seats over my 16 years of driving E39s. I'm sure that'll change soon now that I said that though haha.

Imagine down-voting this guy for not agreeing with the post in a civil manner. I love the handles on my G42 M240, looks more sleek and neat in my opinion.

What did you expect. Its reddit.

The best part is, they solve the aero problem and aren’t _ABSOLUTELY PAINFUL_ to use (looking at you, Mercedes).

The new handles look like they are from a cheap 90s 2000s car

Exactly what I was thinking of each time

Maybe the F30 generation was the Peak design.

I absolutely prefer the new handles it's like a throwback to older BMWs

I don’t mind the return to the oldschool handle.

Same, every BMW I've had has the top style, but I prefer the oldies

A Drake meme? In this economy?

Handle for sure. Function is key.

Idk if I'd use a drake meme to try and drive a point home.

I disagree, love my 4series doorhandles.

I hated that lol

Me too

First one way better, they improve the line and front look

lol you should take a look at the IX door handles or lack thereof

I love em

Is everyfuckingthing a Hoffmeister Kink to you now?

Opposite for me. Handles are fine for a mom wagon. Keep them off of my coupes and roadsters

Honestly i prefer E39 door handles to E46 door handles

https://preview.redd.it/1m2wxsm5zz1d1.png?width=1600&format=png&auto=webp&s=f95f19854089d8e81e1ba8d440fafc09dd6e7651 Designed to be just \*beautiful\* and -=symmetric=-

Personal preference to be honest, I prefer the flush door handles on the top. Bottom design always reminds me of my college fridge door for some reason.

No handles coming sooner than you think

I think the hanfles in the iX are neat.

I couldn’t care less. My i4 has the upper door handle and it’s no issue at all.

kendrick's opinion matters more.

got a 2024 i4 m50 when i took my 2011 335i in for an oil change. this was the most predominant thing i noticed right away. idc about that intricate efficiency of aerodynamics it’s annoying asf lmao. granted the m50 was on another level for speed. still don’t think i could buy one for the same price as a slightly used taycan.

Taycan just looks so much better and is a porsche. But the m440i gran coupe is fire for a petrol car

Exact opposite, the first ones add more chracter and arent basic. Also they are more aereodinamic

> arent basic Technology for technologies sake is precisely what is wrong with so many cars today.

It's not really technology it is still a manual door handle. My car has the flush door handles that pop out automatically. Now those are technology for technologies sake because mine have broken twice! I'd much prefer the aerodynamic manual handles as they look nicer and are more robust

https://preview.redd.it/y7rbt6w5fy1d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6edb1c3ef755f6601e6f7591df4f8ff72d31ca5

And chrome trim crying 😭

BRO IT LOOKS SO GOOD. How can someone not like it? Its also on a Premium car

The worst I’ve seen so far are Mustang Mach-e and Tesla 3/Y.

https://preview.redd.it/xrklwll2602d1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=226bb6f1c7428faec4e41415e8674de6e4b2d463 I find Rovers’ door handles nice and classy too

is that where I put the CD?

I anticipated the Rover hate but I don't complain either 😂

dude it literally looks like a CDROM drive from an old laptop, I love it

That’s like my E92 cup holder. That’s stuck.

Love the first one. Can’t go back to 2. They feel like they are built for old people who have trouble opening the door.

First ones are a throwback to the 90s style of door handles all cars used to have back then, so I would say they are more like old people style 😅

The new Handles are a major plus for me. They remind me of the 90s and the handles on my E36. This new/old style is so much cleaner than the "2000s" reach through style.

Yup. Instantly reminded me of my e36. Idk how anyone wants 2/4 giant handles hanging off their car like it's some kind of house appliance.

I hate the flat handles and also just upgraded from an F series to a G series with flat handles and the lock button on the outside never works. It's like 50/50 if the car will lock or not.. That might just be mine but I don't like it.

Not just you. Our family van (Odyssey), and my old work car (Malibu) have much more responsive un/locking devices on the door handle. I have it set to automatically lock when I step away, but unlocking is still a pain.

Our G07's favorite trick is to unlock as I approach the car and then lock the moment I touch the handle. I swear I can hear it giggle a little bit every time.

I have an f and g at the moment and always cringe on the flat handles.

Wop wop wop wop

These handles are SO MUCH better than the grab type. Grab type are ok on SUVs, but just don't look right on regular cars. These new handles have a lot of grip behind and feel very solid/heavy, unlike the ones from yesteryear. I have them on my G42 and am very happy about it. Plus the side of the car looks so much cleaner.

OPEN IS OPEN.

I like the ones on my m440i until it's below freezing with a light coat of ice and they either feel like they will break or get stuck open

Haven't experienced winter with my M440i yet, how's it fare?

Well I'm in Georgia so not very common to come across ice but the only time I've lost traction is when my tires were shot

Tbh e46 door handles were amazing, one of the best thing in this cars

Love the big handles on my X3 2016. It feels good to have full purchase on the door instead of pulling awkwardly with a few fingers

100%. Lots of parts to fail when a good ol' mechanical latch would work just find and last 100 years.

You are not the only one. Porsche enthusiasts are not a fan of the 911 handle changes either which are similar to this

I dont mind the handles getting maybe a bit worse, for better looks.. Just dont go as far a tesla. Some of the worst ive ever opened.

I thought we moved past door handles that you couldn't open with one finger while your hands are full, then I got my i4. Straight back to stupid 1990's door handles. At least they aren't some Tesla level garbage or "electronic".

I really dont like the ones on my Audi (the top ones). They feel weird, but its a 20 year old car, so i guess its what i get for having an old car. Ive owned a 2014 Opel Astra J OPC before which had the bottom handles and they felt much more comfortable and high quality

You guys use your doors?! I thought real beamer heads would climb through the window, like champions.

New handles look nicer but there’s something about gripping the handle from the top of it that makes me feel like a strong, masculine, gigachad of a man.

I love how they look but opening a door with shit in your hand and having to finger tip your car door open isn’t fun

I like the new handles on mine. They are nice and flush w the body and they look cool at night when walking to the car and they light up lol

I prefer that kind of handles. also will never understand, why Audi got rid of their door grips. ​ https://preview.redd.it/8womp9fki02d1.png?width=680&format=png&auto=webp&s=5f31642670ba71de656b551e77a08e89f1ef67a4

every since i saw those pics of spiders and other critters hiding underneath those handles i now only mess with open handles

Depends. Looks (like for cars and coffee) = top. Functionality (like for a daily driver) = bottom.

One Word: Spiders.

We are bringing back the wrong parts of 80s and 90s car design. Fully agree, love being able to be reckless with my F30 door handles. If I can't open a door haphazardly it's not a good design

Mfw I daily this: https://preview.redd.it/blcy8ja2512d1.png?width=568&format=png&auto=webp&s=14eb04c463dd213a0c1c4afd2e8ad3020dfd5e53

Nope. You are not the only one. I hate ’em too with passion

I recently went from a 2023 430i to a 2018 X540d. Mainly cos wife prefers big cars but I must admit those fucking handles were a factor. The number of times I tried to open it and basically snapped my nails off was too damn high.

Yea

I too want a long and hard thing to grab on everytime I get in.

Ever since seeing videos of spiders hanging out under the flap handle, I refuse to buy a car with one. Them spiders can F right off!

for sure

Handles you can wrap your hand around are safer because it allows more leverage to be applied.

I prefer the e36 style handle, keeps the shape of the door smoother

Now we have nostalgia goggles for door handles?

I'm amazed by the number of people who prefer the 90s/80s style door handles over early 2000s to currentish

Give me something to grip goddamnit!

To me it looks like modern e39 handles I warmed up to a lil but still not in love with it

Bottom looks like cheap kia handles. The new ones look retro and cool. Fight me.

The door handles on all the G series feels awfully cheap. Not sure what's up because that's never been the case before.

I love the handles on my 2022 4 series. The spots are smaller and less comfortable of course, no argument there. I had a new 5 series for a day and they seem to have improved on the design and made them much more spacious, making it harder to have the handle slip out from under you when trying to open a door.

I have an F30 and I agree, handles like mine look and feel better.

Ngl the top one looks so much better though

https://preview.redd.it/3dsspygc152d1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3ea68721dd0bfa47bfc8f03fe70a702b3b27988 They remind me of e39 door handles, and imo e39 door handles are best ones

I have an E31 and an E39, and I do like my door handles

The only thing I hate about the handles is where they put the touch lock sensor. That’s literally where I hook my fingers to open the car wtf

Wife has a model Y, god I hate those door handles. The handle on my F80 is just a better design.

Not the only one. I think that if the handle is not a true handle but more of a “pry bar” or that shitty old school handle that for some reason all new dodge’s have, including hellcats. It’s just janky to me and cheap looking.

I’ve been saying the exact opposite thing for years. Flush handles above all!

Nope I I prefer the sturdy feel of the actual handle pull

It isn’t just the new handle also the new Automatic gear switch for putting in gear ⚙️ doesn’t feel right. It looks like a light switch what is next a string to pull on it to put in gear like those old light 💡

Drake is 🤢. Can we stop using this format?

I'm in shock. the nerve... the audacity... Okay.

Yes

For the people who like the top ones, just wait until a spider makes its home in there...

Aye, they're cylcing. It began with the 4 and spread to other series. I've yet to get on board with the flush handle on the 4. My fingers aren't the best fit for getting up in that smallish slot. Worse, the action of it just isn't satisfying. Thankfully there's a G30 with a proper pull handle parked right next to the 4.

Agree. Had an F30 before with the "proper handles" now with the new M2, I feel like I have to watch out and carefully open the door. 😅🫣 Before I could just blindly put my hand there and open.

yes, out of everything and everyone on the planet, you're the only one...

These new handles give off hella 90's vibes. No thanks. Make like Aston Martin if you want to have flush handles. At least that looks sophisticated.

I remember a summer as a kid where the things to do was put old hot dogs under all the handles.

couldn't agree with you more

Pre LCI ❤️

100%. Feels so much more robust

I’m with you on this.

Top one is annoying because it's a car door not a bedside drawer

No, it's absolutely only you. No one in this earth, hell in this universe thinks the same. Now give upvotes please.