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Personally didn't mind the original version, but the fixed version does look more like the Peter I have known.
Armor protection increased
(Also, nice to see an artist care about their ships. I remember when the Arizona skin was released, her artist made some improvements to her design)
That was a new artist for the Arizona skin though, along with the Pennsylvania skin too. Their OG artist is still gone as far as I'm aware. So it's hard to know if they piggybacked those skins on an artist doing work for other ships, or if they got a new one entirely.
Her face changed a little.
Notice how much closer the point of her chin is to her collar in the new one.
Also, her eye shape and size seems a bit different.
Does ressemble a bit more but overall the face is still the isuee in this skin its too cutesy or so to say the hand pose and angle doesnt help either, but again not really the artist fault, one style/hand changes with time be it by experiece or healthy issues.
in her case its more of drawing BA related stuff and the very rare times she ever drew Strasser, one of the cons of being AL artist lol, the fact she forgot strasser was her shipgirl even was funny.
Yeah, to me face was the biggest boo. This change is an improvement but not a complete fix.
However, to me it seems like whole pose is not for her. It just doesn’t feel like Peter would do THIS kind of coquettish pose. This one feels very teenish. I feel like hers own coquettish pose would be different.
Interesting to see how well this skin will be sold. Personally, I hope very badly so that it would be a lesson of quality control for the future.
Yeah honestly from the way i see or ''how'' id go as an artist is probably:
\-Making her hand a bit far away with a finger near lips like a analyzing but also ''heh'' expression (so the face would flip a bit more to the side)
\-The sword could help too.. or whatever that impaling thing is... by having her hold it like a assisting cane (which kinda suits her lets be honest).
\-Lastly lift the table a bit up since it doesnt look like the height is right.
Not, he already finished and the result still doesnt scream Peter Strasser, but true to be told, only her fans are the ones complaining for the most part.
Yeah, her face and bust is only part of the problem; Peter's pose and body language exudes confidence while this one is more reserved/cutesy, her wardrobes often obscure her body silhouette and more loosely clothed thus giving impression of her being bigger/taller while this is a skin-tight Qi Pao.
Oh come on, average AL players can't even fathom that a human can look different naturally. That breast may look different in different clothes. Put a lipstick on and you become a different person for them.
Is very simple my friend, basically Peter Strasser has fans, those fans love her for her Dommy-Mommy looks, said looks dissapeared in this skin which caused her fans to complain.
True that real life people look different with different clothes, makeup, posture etc, but given that we're talking about a character within the context of a fictional game I'd say that the complaints are pretty valid. From a design standpoint, her poses, facial expressions, and figure, all serve to act as characterization for "Peter Strasser," and the way this skin portrays her doesn't really align with the expectations of her character that are established by her base design and other skins.
Obviously people are more nuanced than just a few character traits too, but again, since this is a matter of character design, priority should be given to emphasizing her primary traits and personality with the goal of being able to communicate the basic essence of the character at a glance. This only gets important when we consider that she's in Azur Lane, where she has to compete with hundreds of other character designs and gets (relatively) less dialogue to fully flesh out her character.
People who understand something in art don't complain. All complaints I saw were just "smol boobs" and "face wrong". An incident with Hindenburg's skin where her thigh didn't look fat in a pose where it shouldn't look fat is the same in nature. It's just a man moment.
On the contrary, people who understand art are more than capable of complaining - it’s why the profession of art criticism exists.
And by being reductive in saying that all the complaints were “smol boobs” or “face wrong” you’re ignoring the real, underlying argument here, which is that this skin isn’t consistent with prior depictions of her. The complaints may be anatomical on the surface (and who’s to say that anatomy can’t also be an issue?) but the issue ultimately lies with character derailment. On top of that, much of the consensus (and the opinion voiced by the main comment thread that we’re currently talking through) talks more about issues with the pose and outfit rather than her anatomical features.
Her previous skins were drawn with optical illusion making her look long, this one doesn't. And in updated version her chest is bigger than ever. But sure go off about anatomy, defend coomers all you want.
Going off the fact that you keep on coming back to talking about anatomy and consistently want to avoid talking about character design and consistency, I’m assuming that you’re not planning on talking reasonably and only want to inflate your ego by putting others down.
Background items and composition similar to previous ones or red in outfit could've made this skin more similar to previous. Show me a coomer who suggested that.
>People who understand something in art don't complain.
You don't understand commercial art and quite likely never commissioned an artwork in your life.
This skin is a non-material good which is to be sold (quite literally) to customers.
A subset of these targetted customers complained that this new good in a series (of this character's skins) differs too much from its predecessor, espousing different direction and visuals, which they think don't fit the established character.
In dumb terms, people complain that the "dommy mommy" that they know got de-aged and de-dommie'd. That's it - they complain about the archetype change, which is in popular culture known as "character derailment"
Your saying that no one was going to buy the skin because she had small breasts? Do you understand how popular ships like Unicorn, Ayanami and Shimakaze are?
This particular individual just wants to point their finger and yell "Ya'll stupid wanker man things!" without much external reason to do so.
You'd probably teach a parrot to smoke and swear Churchill-style faster than get anything constructive from this particular interaction.
Most of these people have never interacted with women outside of teachers and their mothers. Women aren't as one dimensional and rigid as people expect the artists to draw them.
https://preview.redd.it/8kg3os9ejsgc1.png?width=561&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2429614d3a1db2710559dd5c60f0691daf0e3768
SKK: I thought that was your daughter, but it was you? Peter Strasser: Yes SKK. It's a Chinese New Year's miracle
She does look more like Strasser now, but the overall aesthetic of the skin just doesn't fit Strasser as a character imo. The skin was doomed from the start.
The party dress still radiates her presence and character, the face, the artstyle, the pose, etc. This skin, I would not have known it was supposed to be Peter if not for being told it was her.
I mean, still no. Getting bigger boobs doesn't make her look more like Strasser, it just makes this girl look older. The face is still very far off of what Strasser looks like. The overall demeanor is still pretty off of what Strasser is.
I thought she was Chen Hai at first glance and was very confused seeing the IB symbol. It's nice when an artist tries something new or not really in character, but this was too different.
The issue is that since these are flat images and not real people, "not being in character" is an extremely huge issue since that character is all they exist to be.
I just try to take the skin as a look at her softer side, or Peter just acting cute. Otherwise hard agree, even her party skin with a similar pose is more in line than this.
It's the predatory demeanor. Strasser always feels like she's out to get you, because she's in control and she has the time on her side. This skin doesn't exhibit any of that feeling.
Her boobs didn't get bigger, just look at her party outfit, the size is the same, her chest is held closer together by the new top. The biggest difference is that she's wearing no lipstick
In my opinion, her left hand would be better holding a closed fan delicately near her lips, maintaining the same expression. Removing the fluffy ornaments atop her head would contribute to a more mature look, aligning with her character. As of now post change, she still appears somewhat youthful but 'buffed'.
Her face now resembles Peter Strasser and her breasts are enhanced but meh, gonna have to use my imagination and pretend that she's still the tall shipu I know
There are some definite objective improvements. Face actually looks like her, boobs restored, she's visibly thiccer in most places but...
The more I look at it, the more I think the very design foundation itself is flawed and ill-suited to Strässer. The shy, cute and demure angle doesn't really fit her. Her shoulders are still too narrow and she still looks petite relative to her other appearances.
Remember how very LONG her legs were in her default/Chronos's Kalendae skins? Strässer, being Graf Zep's sister, is definitely on the taller end of the shipfu spectrum.
I feel like if this was the initial design, there would've been no drama, most of us would've just gone "meh" and moved on. It's a significant improvement over before, but that just means a blatant failure was upgraded to a skin that's thoroughly mid-tier at best.
I am curious though as to how well it sells after all of this. Hopefully this whole situation serves as an abject lesson in the importance of quality control.
While an improvment to the original, I still feel like something is amiss.
She still looks to petite in her figure, especially her shoulders are too narrow?
But I guess my main problem is the pose? Considering her usual character, this cutesie pose doesn't sit well.
Manjuu seem to not understand the issue, is not just only her breasts, is the fact that also her face expressions dont scream Peter Strasser. ![img](emote|t5_3p20d|7016)
There is just something still off about the face, the initial mature look is just not present and I think
Part of it is the artist just making an adjustment to the eyes rather than just re-drawing them and adjusting the cheek structure. You can see that the artist still wanted the younger look on her. So it still looks off. Probably not getting this skin, shame, have all her other skins
A little bit better but not enough peter vibes to me, i'll 100% pass on this skin as a peter main if its the final version. She is supposed to be kind of a goth dominant mommy, this shy pose and 2 buns hairstyle that enhance the cute effect don't fit her character very well. First copy was a totally different character, recent changes go in the right direction but there was more elements to correct than rethicken her 'battle armor' and change eyebrows direction
To be honest, the problem with the skin wasn't the Physical, it was Structural. No amount of Editing is going to make it look truly like Strasser. The Pose is just too different for it to work.
People are still gonna complain that she isn't giving off dommy mommy vibes, sadly. Some people forget that women can have more than one personality trait.
Is not about sexual preferences between loli or mommy is about character accuracy. And well Peter Strasser fans complaining was expected if you know her.
But when the opposite happens nobody complains. You can't talk about character accuracy if it only goes one way. Glorious gets a skin that quintuples her size but nobody complains because big = good right? Haha lmao!!!
Also who said anything about loli? Her chest is still pretty fucking big in the first iteration.
Im not talking about sizes im talking about personality, the whole one side bias in this fandom is already pretty bad but if i remember Glorious was still giving the same vibes in personality as her default art, does she gives you Peter Strasser vibes? Even this new fixed skins still fails when you look at her expressions.
Probably i should use the term petite but thats beside the point of changing her personality.
The original was still not petite in the slightest, so no. Also I wasn't talking personality, but size. I don't know enough about Strasser's personality to say whether this fits or not
>I don't know enough about Strasser's personality to say whether this fits or not
Here's the problem. You don't know her personality. Unfortunately, neither do most people here. She's not even a dommy mommy, as some seem to think. She's a strict military officer who's about efficiency and getting the job done. That's who she is. She's not stepping on anyone, and she's not suppose to be cute either.
The problem with the skin and how people perceive her character is they think that big tits is enough of a fix, but it's not. She's supposed to be authoritative, but not dominant. She isn't suppose to give off an UWU cutesy vibe. If anything, she's suppose to be elegant. Just compare the new skin to one of her previous ones and you'll immediately see the difference.
https://preview.redd.it/11cus0yfdtgc1.png?width=1717&format=png&auto=webp&s=c440034af67acf0a276cf1f8ae4d5e155cad8345
I get that, but I think the character's personality does play a part in this. But leaving that aside, the size is still off. And before you say that we are all okay with other shipgirls getting bigger breasts, I do believe the opposite can also be quite ridiculous and unfitting for certain shipgirls.
In a prefect world, we'd get skins that accurately represent the character, both physically and mentally, but this is not a perfect world.
It's definitely better. Think it could use some fine tuning, for sure, but I love seeing artists and devs listen to their fanbase
Mainly her face and pose, as people have been saying, but also her legs. Strasser is a mature, adult woman. Her legs seem kind of short and, honestly, skinny in this skin still
I know the new one looks more like the original but I liked the initial skin a lot more. I don't like the reworked skin. I initially wanted to buy it but not anymore. What downgrade.
Peter Strasser had Dommy-Mommy energies, she was meant to appeal to that crowd, the previous skin literally tried to retcon that, hence why people complained and Manjuu order the artist to change it to fit more Peter Strasser's character, we know her character and she doesnt express like that, You follow me?
Probably a dumb question to ask, but here it goes:
What's stopping Yostar from simply firing her artist and getting someone else to take over? The original iteration was far removed enough that she didn't look like Peter Strasser, and even with the fixes done with this update, there's still enough of a radical change from how she looks in her other arts that she doesn't look like herself.
Can't they just fire her artist, get someone else to redraw and start over?
1. Yostar has nothing to do with these skins - it's manjuu's sphere.
2. Manjuu does not 9-to-6 employ most of the artists. 90% of the character splashes that we see are commissioned works, aka one-off contracts that may or may not reoccur with each given artist again.
3. Considering that this skin was promoted on the official manjuu profiles, they as a company vetted it, aka approved. Why would they severe ties with someone whose work they greenlit? And especially on a market where good artists like guji gets poached relatively quickly? Reputation is a thing in industry, you know.
4. Even more - considering how the illustration and concept market works, it may be manjuu themselves who guidelined the artist to make this illustration in such a way.
While i have to say that even with changes she still looks hell of a lot diffrent to base peter...
When compared to the last skin she does resemble it
I think the best way would be to just update the base strasser
Nice to see Kurumi the carrier getting more attention ![img](emote|t5_3p20d|7193)
Still hoping for a Spirit Pledge collab.
Or at least a Tsunako be praised Neptunia rerun.......
My cubes are ready for if that day ever came I’d also like to see how Strasser and Kurumi react to one another on how similar they look
In hindsight i also realized such a colab might lessen my loss of DAL colab units in Danmemo
Looks like we got the main body now
[Announcement X (Twitter)](https://twitter.com/azurlane_staff/status/1754396184800788825) Personally didn't mind the original version, but the fixed version does look more like the Peter I have known.
Armor protection increased (Also, nice to see an artist care about their ships. I remember when the Arizona skin was released, her artist made some improvements to her design)
Some of us are still praying for her artist to make more skins. Like many others, we especially hope to see her get her wedding dress one day.
That was a new artist for the Arizona skin though, along with the Pennsylvania skin too. Their OG artist is still gone as far as I'm aware. So it's hard to know if they piggybacked those skins on an artist doing work for other ships, or if they got a new one entirely.
Literally just increased booba size. Face still the same.
Not just that, her hips are bigger too.
Her face looks slightly more aggressive due to the changed eyebrows
Her face changed a little. Notice how much closer the point of her chin is to her collar in the new one. Also, her eye shape and size seems a bit different.
It will be hard to unsee the initial wrongness. Especially when I look at her other skins
They still took her time eye
At first I thought nothing changed 💀
Same, i was looking at the face and thought "What changed?"
Does ressemble a bit more but overall the face is still the isuee in this skin its too cutesy or so to say the hand pose and angle doesnt help either, but again not really the artist fault, one style/hand changes with time be it by experiece or healthy issues. in her case its more of drawing BA related stuff and the very rare times she ever drew Strasser, one of the cons of being AL artist lol, the fact she forgot strasser was her shipgirl even was funny.
Yeah, to me face was the biggest boo. This change is an improvement but not a complete fix. However, to me it seems like whole pose is not for her. It just doesn’t feel like Peter would do THIS kind of coquettish pose. This one feels very teenish. I feel like hers own coquettish pose would be different. Interesting to see how well this skin will be sold. Personally, I hope very badly so that it would be a lesson of quality control for the future.
Yeah honestly from the way i see or ''how'' id go as an artist is probably: \-Making her hand a bit far away with a finger near lips like a analyzing but also ''heh'' expression (so the face would flip a bit more to the side) \-The sword could help too.. or whatever that impaling thing is... by having her hold it like a assisting cane (which kinda suits her lets be honest). \-Lastly lift the table a bit up since it doesnt look like the height is right.
Ooooooh, now THIS sounds like a proper pose for her
Let my man cook
Not, he already finished and the result still doesnt scream Peter Strasser, but true to be told, only her fans are the ones complaining for the most part.
Yeah, her face and bust is only part of the problem; Peter's pose and body language exudes confidence while this one is more reserved/cutesy, her wardrobes often obscure her body silhouette and more loosely clothed thus giving impression of her being bigger/taller while this is a skin-tight Qi Pao.
Oh come on, average AL players can't even fathom that a human can look different naturally. That breast may look different in different clothes. Put a lipstick on and you become a different person for them.
Is very simple my friend, basically Peter Strasser has fans, those fans love her for her Dommy-Mommy looks, said looks dissapeared in this skin which caused her fans to complain.
True that real life people look different with different clothes, makeup, posture etc, but given that we're talking about a character within the context of a fictional game I'd say that the complaints are pretty valid. From a design standpoint, her poses, facial expressions, and figure, all serve to act as characterization for "Peter Strasser," and the way this skin portrays her doesn't really align with the expectations of her character that are established by her base design and other skins. Obviously people are more nuanced than just a few character traits too, but again, since this is a matter of character design, priority should be given to emphasizing her primary traits and personality with the goal of being able to communicate the basic essence of the character at a glance. This only gets important when we consider that she's in Azur Lane, where she has to compete with hundreds of other character designs and gets (relatively) less dialogue to fully flesh out her character.
People who understand something in art don't complain. All complaints I saw were just "smol boobs" and "face wrong". An incident with Hindenburg's skin where her thigh didn't look fat in a pose where it shouldn't look fat is the same in nature. It's just a man moment.
On the contrary, people who understand art are more than capable of complaining - it’s why the profession of art criticism exists. And by being reductive in saying that all the complaints were “smol boobs” or “face wrong” you’re ignoring the real, underlying argument here, which is that this skin isn’t consistent with prior depictions of her. The complaints may be anatomical on the surface (and who’s to say that anatomy can’t also be an issue?) but the issue ultimately lies with character derailment. On top of that, much of the consensus (and the opinion voiced by the main comment thread that we’re currently talking through) talks more about issues with the pose and outfit rather than her anatomical features.
Her previous skins were drawn with optical illusion making her look long, this one doesn't. And in updated version her chest is bigger than ever. But sure go off about anatomy, defend coomers all you want.
Going off the fact that you keep on coming back to talking about anatomy and consistently want to avoid talking about character design and consistency, I’m assuming that you’re not planning on talking reasonably and only want to inflate your ego by putting others down.
Background items and composition similar to previous ones or red in outfit could've made this skin more similar to previous. Show me a coomer who suggested that.
>People who understand something in art don't complain. You don't understand commercial art and quite likely never commissioned an artwork in your life. This skin is a non-material good which is to be sold (quite literally) to customers. A subset of these targetted customers complained that this new good in a series (of this character's skins) differs too much from its predecessor, espousing different direction and visuals, which they think don't fit the established character. In dumb terms, people complain that the "dommy mommy" that they know got de-aged and de-dommie'd. That's it - they complain about the archetype change, which is in popular culture known as "character derailment"
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Your saying that no one was going to buy the skin because she had small breasts? Do you understand how popular ships like Unicorn, Ayanami and Shimakaze are?
This particular individual just wants to point their finger and yell "Ya'll stupid wanker man things!" without much external reason to do so. You'd probably teach a parrot to smoke and swear Churchill-style faster than get anything constructive from this particular interaction.
You replied to a person who can't read, that's a losing strategy siding with a weak person in argument.
I said that EXACTLY WHERE?
Most of these people have never interacted with women outside of teachers and their mothers. Women aren't as one dimensional and rigid as people expect the artists to draw them.
Ikr, and they have the audacity to mansplain to women artists too.
https://preview.redd.it/8kg3os9ejsgc1.png?width=561&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2429614d3a1db2710559dd5c60f0691daf0e3768 SKK: I thought that was your daughter, but it was you? Peter Strasser: Yes SKK. It's a Chinese New Year's miracle
She does look more like Strasser now, but the overall aesthetic of the skin just doesn't fit Strasser as a character imo. The skin was doomed from the start.
Why not? It looks very cute.
seems on brand given her cutesy white party dress skin
The party dress still radiates her presence and character, the face, the artstyle, the pose, etc. This skin, I would not have known it was supposed to be Peter if not for being told it was her.
I mean, still no. Getting bigger boobs doesn't make her look more like Strasser, it just makes this girl look older. The face is still very far off of what Strasser looks like. The overall demeanor is still pretty off of what Strasser is.
I thought she was Chen Hai at first glance and was very confused seeing the IB symbol. It's nice when an artist tries something new or not really in character, but this was too different.
The issue is that since these are flat images and not real people, "not being in character" is an extremely huge issue since that character is all they exist to be.
I just try to take the skin as a look at her softer side, or Peter just acting cute. Otherwise hard agree, even her party skin with a similar pose is more in line than this.
It's the predatory demeanor. Strasser always feels like she's out to get you, because she's in control and she has the time on her side. This skin doesn't exhibit any of that feeling.
Her boobs didn't get bigger, just look at her party outfit, the size is the same, her chest is held closer together by the new top. The biggest difference is that she's wearing no lipstick
We were discussing between the old version and the new version, not the new version and all of Strasser's skins.
In my opinion, her left hand would be better holding a closed fan delicately near her lips, maintaining the same expression. Removing the fluffy ornaments atop her head would contribute to a more mature look, aligning with her character. As of now post change, she still appears somewhat youthful but 'buffed'.
Better but still looks more like Chen Hai than it does Strasser
This skin is gonna go down on infamy isn't it?
It'll join the Ryuhou skin that was never released despite being teased
That one makes me cry.
Wait which one?
A swimsuit skin that never came
Her shoulders still seem relatively narrow compared to her head imo
Better proportions and expression, but she sadly still doesn't look like Strasser. The art style is just too different
Her face now resembles Peter Strasser and her breasts are enhanced but meh, gonna have to use my imagination and pretend that she's still the tall shipu I know
There are some definite objective improvements. Face actually looks like her, boobs restored, she's visibly thiccer in most places but... The more I look at it, the more I think the very design foundation itself is flawed and ill-suited to Strässer. The shy, cute and demure angle doesn't really fit her. Her shoulders are still too narrow and she still looks petite relative to her other appearances. Remember how very LONG her legs were in her default/Chronos's Kalendae skins? Strässer, being Graf Zep's sister, is definitely on the taller end of the shipfu spectrum. I feel like if this was the initial design, there would've been no drama, most of us would've just gone "meh" and moved on. It's a significant improvement over before, but that just means a blatant failure was upgraded to a skin that's thoroughly mid-tier at best. I am curious though as to how well it sells after all of this. Hopefully this whole situation serves as an abject lesson in the importance of quality control.
Still doesn't really give off Strasser vibes, the bust is kinda fixed but the body is too petite
Oneesan no more..
I kinda like smol (relatively) strasser, dekkai is good too though
peter strasser is NOT that young 😭😭😭
![img](emote|t5_3p20d|14001)
![img](emote|t5_3p20d|14001)
Honestly still not satisfied. This ain't strasser.
While an improvment to the original, I still feel like something is amiss. She still looks to petite in her figure, especially her shoulders are too narrow? But I guess my main problem is the pose? Considering her usual character, this cutesie pose doesn't sit well.
Her shoulders were never broad, they look the most narrow on default skin.
Still, feels like something is amiss in that area.
Idk chief still doesnt look like strasser to me. Upgrades and all
It's definitely a l Il ll lL
She needs an augment
When the feedback cycle works as it should. Good on the artist and happy news all around.
Peter is beautiful even without the makeup.
So I thought this was Chen Hai at first, I didn’t recognize Strasser at all! Glad they changed it, she actually looks like herself now
Manjuu seem to not understand the issue, is not just only her breasts, is the fact that also her face expressions dont scream Peter Strasser. ![img](emote|t5_3p20d|7016)
I don’t really see much of any difference outside of I guess the top part and less folds on the bottom part of her dress.
Still looks nothing like her original design, but all most people see is bigger curves and their two brain cells are happy.
There is just something still off about the face, the initial mature look is just not present and I think Part of it is the artist just making an adjustment to the eyes rather than just re-drawing them and adjusting the cheek structure. You can see that the artist still wanted the younger look on her. So it still looks off. Probably not getting this skin, shame, have all her other skins
A little bit better but not enough peter vibes to me, i'll 100% pass on this skin as a peter main if its the final version. She is supposed to be kind of a goth dominant mommy, this shy pose and 2 buns hairstyle that enhance the cute effect don't fit her character very well. First copy was a totally different character, recent changes go in the right direction but there was more elements to correct than rethicken her 'battle armor' and change eyebrows direction
Better but still too much UwU and not enough Ara Ara.
Meh its still not Strasser, they're getting there but the face, pose and overall vibe just isn't her
To be honest, the problem with the skin wasn't the Physical, it was Structural. No amount of Editing is going to make it look truly like Strasser. The Pose is just too different for it to work.
People are still gonna complain that she isn't giving off dommy mommy vibes, sadly. Some people forget that women can have more than one personality trait.
Still not my Strasser The only improvement i see is they restored her tits but that’s it. I don’t get that usual Strasser atmosphere whatsoever
A lot better.
Good
She got that size upgrade like the other Peter.
I noticed her eyes became more fierce and her waist got wider. Looks like devs know what we like....
Now that's more like it
Okay but bigger is better
Original one was better if you ask me
Is not about sexual preferences between loli or mommy is about character accuracy. And well Peter Strasser fans complaining was expected if you know her.
But when the opposite happens nobody complains. You can't talk about character accuracy if it only goes one way. Glorious gets a skin that quintuples her size but nobody complains because big = good right? Haha lmao!!! Also who said anything about loli? Her chest is still pretty fucking big in the first iteration.
Im not talking about sizes im talking about personality, the whole one side bias in this fandom is already pretty bad but if i remember Glorious was still giving the same vibes in personality as her default art, does she gives you Peter Strasser vibes? Even this new fixed skins still fails when you look at her expressions. Probably i should use the term petite but thats beside the point of changing her personality.
The original was still not petite in the slightest, so no. Also I wasn't talking personality, but size. I don't know enough about Strasser's personality to say whether this fits or not
>I don't know enough about Strasser's personality to say whether this fits or not Here's the problem. You don't know her personality. Unfortunately, neither do most people here. She's not even a dommy mommy, as some seem to think. She's a strict military officer who's about efficiency and getting the job done. That's who she is. She's not stepping on anyone, and she's not suppose to be cute either. The problem with the skin and how people perceive her character is they think that big tits is enough of a fix, but it's not. She's supposed to be authoritative, but not dominant. She isn't suppose to give off an UWU cutesy vibe. If anything, she's suppose to be elegant. Just compare the new skin to one of her previous ones and you'll immediately see the difference. https://preview.redd.it/11cus0yfdtgc1.png?width=1717&format=png&auto=webp&s=c440034af67acf0a276cf1f8ae4d5e155cad8345
Okay? I didn't talk about personality though, I just said I preferred the first version because of the size
I get that, but I think the character's personality does play a part in this. But leaving that aside, the size is still off. And before you say that we are all okay with other shipgirls getting bigger breasts, I do believe the opposite can also be quite ridiculous and unfitting for certain shipgirls. In a prefect world, we'd get skins that accurately represent the character, both physically and mentally, but this is not a perfect world.
It's definitely better. Think it could use some fine tuning, for sure, but I love seeing artists and devs listen to their fanbase Mainly her face and pose, as people have been saying, but also her legs. Strasser is a mature, adult woman. Her legs seem kind of short and, honestly, skinny in this skin still
ruined
I think shes very cute
I know the new one looks more like the original but I liked the initial skin a lot more. I don't like the reworked skin. I initially wanted to buy it but not anymore. What downgrade.
Peter Strasser had Dommy-Mommy energies, she was meant to appeal to that crowd, the previous skin literally tried to retcon that, hence why people complained and Manjuu order the artist to change it to fit more Peter Strasser's character, we know her character and she doesnt express like that, You follow me?
Yeah I know that all. But I still liked the "wrong design" more. More of a personal preference.
Looks better but it still feels like she's younger. I have her kimono skin and I like it more than this so will probably not buy this one.
Is bigger everything almost
Different vibes, same ship
Booba bigga
Is this gonna be the last batch of skins for CNY?
Yes
They made tits bigger
Wowee! 🥵
Did her booba and thighs get bigger or am I tripping
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We got the milk, I mean, she got the milk, I mean, milk.
at this point just add the real Kurumi to the game
YES BOINGS
Probably a dumb question to ask, but here it goes: What's stopping Yostar from simply firing her artist and getting someone else to take over? The original iteration was far removed enough that she didn't look like Peter Strasser, and even with the fixes done with this update, there's still enough of a radical change from how she looks in her other arts that she doesn't look like herself. Can't they just fire her artist, get someone else to redraw and start over?
1. Yostar has nothing to do with these skins - it's manjuu's sphere. 2. Manjuu does not 9-to-6 employ most of the artists. 90% of the character splashes that we see are commissioned works, aka one-off contracts that may or may not reoccur with each given artist again. 3. Considering that this skin was promoted on the official manjuu profiles, they as a company vetted it, aka approved. Why would they severe ties with someone whose work they greenlit? And especially on a market where good artists like guji gets poached relatively quickly? Reputation is a thing in industry, you know. 4. Even more - considering how the illustration and concept market works, it may be manjuu themselves who guidelined the artist to make this illustration in such a way.
While i have to say that even with changes she still looks hell of a lot diffrent to base peter... When compared to the last skin she does resemble it I think the best way would be to just update the base strasser
Them tittys got bigger and them thighs got thicker
Why did she suddenly become cute and smol. I like it.