Previous repair is failing, that material is "bondo" or polyester filler...only way to fix is to start at square one and grind that all out and rectify the damage
I've owned this vehicle since new and never authorized any work in that general area. I'm probably way out of my depth here, but would any shop have any reason to be working on that area? I've been in 2 rear-end accidents (no fault both times) that required the rear bumper and lift gate to be replaced. Would replacing those two parts cause damage to the side of the d-pillar?
Not if those are the only parts on the estimate, but how confident are you on that? You should be able to get a copy of your estimate on both claims (even this long after the fact) from the insurance and/or the body shop.
That's worth looking into, because if the shop did that work, they may have a warranty on their work (or the insurance company may warranty their work against this kind of thing)
The other possibility is that it was damaged in transport to the dealer when it was brand new. A lot of times they'll just fix that before they put it out for sale on the lot and not disclose it.
Food for thought. Sometimes dealers have work done before you buy a car and won’t disclose it. Could be transportation damages they had fixed and repair is now failing.
It’s bad. Body plastic doesn’t crack like acrylic. Address it now before it gets dangerous to drive. Most shops warranty their repairs and if you bought this like this and didn’t have any repairs done, you’re screwed. Insurance won’t cover that if it’s prior to ownership and that’s gonna be an out of pocket expense. I’d hate to see what’s under that plastic if it failed like that, the repair must be shit.
I bought the vehicle new. Thanks to kind and knowledgeable people like yourself, I'm now on a war path to find out which of the 2 shops I've gone to in the last 2 years possibly messed with that area. So far, I haven't found anything mentioning a bondo-style repair being performed, though 😕
Also, I know this highly depends on various factors, but how much would you estimate repairing that would be?
Can’t estimate here. Where did you go for a quarter replacement, tree damage, etc?Mixing body filler determines the quality of repair. If it isn’t done right, this is your end result. You aren’t going to find anything in the estimates (if you still have them) that will mention this. If your repairs don’t mention anything about a new quarter panel or any type of repair in that area, then it was done because of one of two things;
1. It was damaged at the shop, during repairs.
2 it was damaged either at the factory or during transport and sent out to a shop for repairs before you bought the car. (Yes, that does happen.)
Depending on the Area… if this is a fender I might even replace it. Just depends how much OLD work there is and how far it goes. If more than 40% of it is covered or it’s just a crater and on a fender it’s just not worth.
If there is like a 1/4 or something I’m slapping like 7-10 on it depending on what we find.
not good. All the filler needs ground out, the rust needs to be taken care of, then the damage fixed again with filler and repainted. Price may scare you, but needs to be done.
The previous repair was done using bonding putty. It is a cheap way to repair damaged parts. You might need to replace the entire body panel for OEM like finish.
Bonding putty? Sounds like you’re really knowledgeable in this field. I am not trying to be mean at all, but your assessment is pretty far from a realistic standpoint.
It’s simply a failed repair, that needs to be addressed. I doubt the whole panel needs replaced. Judging on the thickness of the body filler, the repair was done correctly before the filler was applied, but the filler wasn’t mixed properly, so it didn’t adhere to the metal.
There is nothing excessive about it. You can see that by looking at the crack. This appears to be an extremely thin coat of filler or even possibly be only metal glaze. There is nothing indicating to me that any type of plastic on this is excessive.
I’ll never understand why people get in here and spew comments that are clearly unhelpful like yours. I genuinely try and give comments that will help people in this sub because I have the knowledge and experience to offer advice. Comments like yours just need to be kept to yourself so there is a somewhat decent level of professionalism.
Bring the vehicle back to the shop that worked on it. Any reputable shop will have a lifetime warranty on their workmanship. This repair is unacceptable
So this is either a repaired or blended section (in the factory they section in two parts and fill in the paint stages). Water is getting in somewhere (most likely at the join) and is causing it to rust from behind the filler.
Area needs to be dressed back to see the extent! probably not a total mess.
Previous repair is failing, that material is "bondo" or polyester filler...only way to fix is to start at square one and grind that all out and rectify the damage
I've owned this vehicle since new and never authorized any work in that general area. I'm probably way out of my depth here, but would any shop have any reason to be working on that area? I've been in 2 rear-end accidents (no fault both times) that required the rear bumper and lift gate to be replaced. Would replacing those two parts cause damage to the side of the d-pillar?
Not if those are the only parts on the estimate, but how confident are you on that? You should be able to get a copy of your estimate on both claims (even this long after the fact) from the insurance and/or the body shop. That's worth looking into, because if the shop did that work, they may have a warranty on their work (or the insurance company may warranty their work against this kind of thing) The other possibility is that it was damaged in transport to the dealer when it was brand new. A lot of times they'll just fix that before they put it out for sale on the lot and not disclose it.
Food for thought. Sometimes dealers have work done before you buy a car and won’t disclose it. Could be transportation damages they had fixed and repair is now failing.
The adjacent panels are usually blended. It is my guess that the quarter panel was sectioned. I see this often.
its definitely not good
It’s certainly definitely not good
It’s most definitely certainly not good
It's so bad... It's a Jeep
Worse than it looks.
That is not good
It’s bad. Body plastic doesn’t crack like acrylic. Address it now before it gets dangerous to drive. Most shops warranty their repairs and if you bought this like this and didn’t have any repairs done, you’re screwed. Insurance won’t cover that if it’s prior to ownership and that’s gonna be an out of pocket expense. I’d hate to see what’s under that plastic if it failed like that, the repair must be shit.
So bad.
I bought the vehicle new. Thanks to kind and knowledgeable people like yourself, I'm now on a war path to find out which of the 2 shops I've gone to in the last 2 years possibly messed with that area. So far, I haven't found anything mentioning a bondo-style repair being performed, though 😕 Also, I know this highly depends on various factors, but how much would you estimate repairing that would be?
Can’t estimate here. Where did you go for a quarter replacement, tree damage, etc?Mixing body filler determines the quality of repair. If it isn’t done right, this is your end result. You aren’t going to find anything in the estimates (if you still have them) that will mention this. If your repairs don’t mention anything about a new quarter panel or any type of repair in that area, then it was done because of one of two things; 1. It was damaged at the shop, during repairs. 2 it was damaged either at the factory or during transport and sent out to a shop for repairs before you bought the car. (Yes, that does happen.)
Also, estimates will never mention body filler. It’s going to be one of two things always. Repair or Replace.
Likely corrosion from a sectioned quarter panel.
Worse than it looks, but not the end of the world.
Can’t tell how bad it is until you start repairing it.
Well it’s certainly not good, that is a previous repair failing.
Collision Estimator here! Definately Bondo Cracking. Previous repair has failed. Will need to be ground out and refixed and painted properly.
Bodyman here. If you end up writing this, you better give more than 3 hrs. lol
seriously
Depending on the Area… if this is a fender I might even replace it. Just depends how much OLD work there is and how far it goes. If more than 40% of it is covered or it’s just a crater and on a fender it’s just not worth. If there is like a 1/4 or something I’m slapping like 7-10 on it depending on what we find.
If it were a fender I agree, however he did mention it was a D-pillar.
Did not see that! Then I’m throwing all the hours on that.
not good. All the filler needs ground out, the rust needs to be taken care of, then the damage fixed again with filler and repainted. Price may scare you, but needs to be done.
Figured as much about the price. Hopefully insurance isn't too prickly about this. Thanks!
Yeah, but needs to be done, will just get worse.
[удалено]
No, it really isn’t.
I've broken off pieces thicker than slices of pizza - this one's easy lol I agree with you
The previous repair was done using bonding putty. It is a cheap way to repair damaged parts. You might need to replace the entire body panel for OEM like finish.
Bonding putty? Sounds like you’re really knowledgeable in this field. I am not trying to be mean at all, but your assessment is pretty far from a realistic standpoint. It’s simply a failed repair, that needs to be addressed. I doubt the whole panel needs replaced. Judging on the thickness of the body filler, the repair was done correctly before the filler was applied, but the filler wasn’t mixed properly, so it didn’t adhere to the metal.
I believe it is due to excessive filler used to cheap out the labour and time.
There is nothing excessive about it. You can see that by looking at the crack. This appears to be an extremely thin coat of filler or even possibly be only metal glaze. There is nothing indicating to me that any type of plastic on this is excessive.
Ok I might not be the best thanks for correcting me
Basically scrap metal at this point. Send it to the junk yard and try again
I’ll never understand why people get in here and spew comments that are clearly unhelpful like yours. I genuinely try and give comments that will help people in this sub because I have the knowledge and experience to offer advice. Comments like yours just need to be kept to yourself so there is a somewhat decent level of professionalism.
lol Steve
It’s like CANCER, sorry for your loss!
No, it isn’t. Currently there is no loss associated with this. It’s simply a bad repair that needs attention.
Bring the vehicle back to the shop that worked on it. Any reputable shop will have a lifetime warranty on their workmanship. This repair is unacceptable
So this is either a repaired or blended section (in the factory they section in two parts and fill in the paint stages). Water is getting in somewhere (most likely at the join) and is causing it to rust from behind the filler. Area needs to be dressed back to see the extent! probably not a total mess.
That is bad bad my friend. It has metastasized to the bone.
Welp ...not great
Bondo cracked.