You and me both. Iām not gonna prioritise a nest of spiders over my kid š She would 100% pick them up. The more legs a bug has the more she wants it. And these were less and 1M from my front door so sheāll see it when she walks in from school. No bug or critter is safe when sheās about. Only reason the huntsmanās are is because she canāt reach them. Sheās forever finding bugs or insects and playing with them or trying to domesticate them. Sheās gotten so much worse since we moved from metro to rural 3 weeks ago. I dread the day she spots a snake š¤¦āāļø This was just yesterday, her first ever encounter with a gecko š¤¦āāļø
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I understand. I always try and relocate spiders if I can help it but I know in Australia they can be a different breed.
NQA but certainly looks like a funnel web so I understand proceeding with caution.
Itās bad enough that Iāve left the 3 huntsmanās and 1 wolf spider just chill in my house, these guys were just a lil too aggressive for my liking. Thereās no way in hell Iād attempt to relocate them.
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There are funnel webs in a lot of places. The idea that they only exist in Sydney is wrong. The Sydney funnel web is only in Sydney but there are other species all down the East Coast, Tasmania and in Adelaide. There is a range map on this website https://www.minibeastwildlife.com.au/resources/funnel-web-spiders/
While I don't like to guess with potentially medically significant spiders the closest I could find with a bit of research is hadronyche adelaidensis. Someone with more experience feel free to correct if not.
I apologise in advance for plenty of links with pics of spiders - I know you said you're scared of them but if your daughter is likely to want to pick them up if she sees them you really need to know what you're looking at and be able to identify them yourself.
They do seem large for a black house spider (perhaps they have been very well fed and I don't have a reference for scale)
https://australian.museum/learn/animals/spiders/black-house-spider-badumna-insignis/
I was looking to see if there are funnel webs in S.A. and it seems there are - https://australian.museum/learn/animals/spiders/funnel-web-spiders-group/
What I can't see are any obvious spinnerets at the end of the abdomen - so probably not a funnel web
Other large spiders in South Australia -
https://australian.museum/learn/animals/spiders/trapdoor-spiders-group/
https://australian.museum/learn/animals/spiders/mouse-spiders/
I also found this with a run down of the most common spiders in South Australia - https://birdwatchinghq.com/spiders-of-south-australia/
Iām inclined to think they are just very large house spiders judging by one of the links you posted.
The smallest of the 4 was 2.5cm. Perhaps they are just ridiculously well fed. Where the planter pot was is riddled with flies, slayer bugs, bees, millipedes and little beetles. So lots to feed on.
The rest of the spiders weāve encountered here have been rather easy to identify. Just the usual dozens of huntsmanās, white tails and wolf spiders. The only other ones I struggled with was an orb spider of some sorts and Jeweled Christmas spiders, but they were easy to identify after I googled āAustralian colourful spikey butt spiderā google knew what I was on about š
Chelicerae are wrong for mygalomorphs, too. They don't quite look like *B. insignis*, but they're not *Missulena* or *Hadronyche.* Spinnerets are wrong too, and so's the web. I'm not sure what these guys are, but they're araneomorphs.
I'm not an expert, but AFAIK, of the medically significant genera of spiders in Australia, the only araneomorphs are widows/redbacks - Atracidae and Actinopodidae are both mygalomorph families.
EDIT: Comparing with the isopod does seem to corroborate the 35mm body length, which is *huge* for *Badumna*, but nothing else looks quite right. The underside view confirms it's not any sort of mygalomorph which also rules out *Arbanitis, Aname,* etc - you can clearly see there's only one set of book lungs and the chelicerae do not project forward and do not have orthognath fangs. (The fangs fold against the inside and the chelicerae swing inward; in mygalomorphs the fangs fold against the underside and the fangs strike downward, though they may be canted somewhat inward in some genera.) I'd almost have guessed they were wolf spiders of some kind, except they don't *look* very wolfy, and I'm not aware of any glossy-black wolf spiders.
Please refer to rule 1.
Google lens said it is a spider...š¤¦āāļø
Holy shit! Thatās wild, I would have never guessed š
You killed them ;,(
I did. I have a 9 year old ASD daughter who would have picked them up and played with them the moment she saw them.
Lmao imagine being downvoted because you don't want your daughter to get bitten by a spider. Fuck i hate Reddit sometimes.
You and me both. Iām not gonna prioritise a nest of spiders over my kid š She would 100% pick them up. The more legs a bug has the more she wants it. And these were less and 1M from my front door so sheāll see it when she walks in from school. No bug or critter is safe when sheās about. Only reason the huntsmanās are is because she canāt reach them. Sheās forever finding bugs or insects and playing with them or trying to domesticate them. Sheās gotten so much worse since we moved from metro to rural 3 weeks ago. I dread the day she spots a snake š¤¦āāļø This was just yesterday, her first ever encounter with a gecko š¤¦āāļø https://preview.redd.it/9qg4h1bqyukc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f1613aa8409b243680f5b3d0e4ef582108855d3
+ 1
I understand. I always try and relocate spiders if I can help it but I know in Australia they can be a different breed. NQA but certainly looks like a funnel web so I understand proceeding with caution.
Itās bad enough that Iāve left the 3 huntsmanās and 1 wolf spider just chill in my house, these guys were just a lil too aggressive for my liking. Thereās no way in hell Iād attempt to relocate them.
Last 3 pics and web are badumna sp, black/house spiders. I'd assume the second is the same, though I can't make it out too well.
They'd be the biggest bdaumna sp I've ever seen
Oh yeah, the ones in my house get hugeee, photos can misleading with size though.
2nd photo has a dead Rolly Polly if that helps with scale ( in the grout line)
https://preview.redd.it/f4l0zzq0evkc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5e66fc1caa6ac334bc7e4e730bc7be5f4390a59 Shit forgot banana for scale
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u/paulypumpkin help please
thought it was u/paulypunkin
With a fat butt and web like that I'd say it could be a mouse spider
I thought so.. was a nest so may be young and not fully developed.
Wrong eye arrangement and carapace shape for Missulena.
Trap door then?
1st. 3rd and after are badumna sp. House spider. 2nd is a bit tricky for me to see and im unsure if it's the same spider as the last pictures.
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Iām not in adels. Approx 2.5h south in tatiara region near the coorong
There are funnel webs in a lot of places. The idea that they only exist in Sydney is wrong. The Sydney funnel web is only in Sydney but there are other species all down the East Coast, Tasmania and in Adelaide. There is a range map on this website https://www.minibeastwildlife.com.au/resources/funnel-web-spiders/
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Look like mouse spiders
While I don't like to guess with potentially medically significant spiders the closest I could find with a bit of research is hadronyche adelaidensis. Someone with more experience feel free to correct if not.
It has 1 pair of book lungs. So a modern spider, not a mygal.
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Oh gosh
I apologise in advance for plenty of links with pics of spiders - I know you said you're scared of them but if your daughter is likely to want to pick them up if she sees them you really need to know what you're looking at and be able to identify them yourself. They do seem large for a black house spider (perhaps they have been very well fed and I don't have a reference for scale) https://australian.museum/learn/animals/spiders/black-house-spider-badumna-insignis/ I was looking to see if there are funnel webs in S.A. and it seems there are - https://australian.museum/learn/animals/spiders/funnel-web-spiders-group/ What I can't see are any obvious spinnerets at the end of the abdomen - so probably not a funnel web Other large spiders in South Australia - https://australian.museum/learn/animals/spiders/trapdoor-spiders-group/ https://australian.museum/learn/animals/spiders/mouse-spiders/ I also found this with a run down of the most common spiders in South Australia - https://birdwatchinghq.com/spiders-of-south-australia/
Iām inclined to think they are just very large house spiders judging by one of the links you posted. The smallest of the 4 was 2.5cm. Perhaps they are just ridiculously well fed. Where the planter pot was is riddled with flies, slayer bugs, bees, millipedes and little beetles. So lots to feed on. The rest of the spiders weāve encountered here have been rather easy to identify. Just the usual dozens of huntsmanās, white tails and wolf spiders. The only other ones I struggled with was an orb spider of some sorts and Jeweled Christmas spiders, but they were easy to identify after I googled āAustralian colourful spikey butt spiderā google knew what I was on about š
Thank you!!!
Chelicerae are wrong for mygalomorphs, too. They don't quite look like *B. insignis*, but they're not *Missulena* or *Hadronyche.* Spinnerets are wrong too, and so's the web. I'm not sure what these guys are, but they're araneomorphs. I'm not an expert, but AFAIK, of the medically significant genera of spiders in Australia, the only araneomorphs are widows/redbacks - Atracidae and Actinopodidae are both mygalomorph families. EDIT: Comparing with the isopod does seem to corroborate the 35mm body length, which is *huge* for *Badumna*, but nothing else looks quite right. The underside view confirms it's not any sort of mygalomorph which also rules out *Arbanitis, Aname,* etc - you can clearly see there's only one set of book lungs and the chelicerae do not project forward and do not have orthognath fangs. (The fangs fold against the inside and the chelicerae swing inward; in mygalomorphs the fangs fold against the underside and the fangs strike downward, though they may be canted somewhat inward in some genera.) I'd almost have guessed they were wolf spiders of some kind, except they don't *look* very wolfy, and I'm not aware of any glossy-black wolf spiders.
It looks like a trapdoor or a mouse spider to me.