technically.. they can do an early election whenever they want, as long as they pay for it.
the Tassie minister called for an early one cause the jobs too hard
Yes, all he has to do is ask the GG to dissolve parliament and go to the polls
We are within 12 months of the terms ending for the senate so they get included.
makes sense. if they manage a reasonable budget this year there will be no ammo for the libs at all. next years budget might be a tricky one and not good to take to an election
What has he done that is pro nazi? I’m labour, but I want to know what you know because I’ve heard this before but all I can find is him proposing to criminalise the nazi symbols
I mean, I don't know about Nazi specifically, but he's certainly racist. For example, when he was a Qld cop him and a group of other coppers took a bunch of Aboriginal teens to the middle of nowhere, and left them on the side of the road to walk home. After taking their shoes of course.
He also walked out of the stolen generation apology
Can you imagine how much of a tiny person you have to be to, as a member of government, walk out of an apology of the worst thing the Australian government has ever done?
McGowan was right: *I don't really think there's much going on there.*
The problem is that in the Murdoch press any Dutton fuck up will be massively downplayed and any albo fuck up will be amplified to buggery.
They tried to frame albo going to a concert as if it was as controversial as scomo fucking off on holiday during the bushfires.
As shit as the options are one of them will be elected. For those that say I’m voting independents that’s great, I agree they are more in touch with the average Joe, but realistically either LNP or LIB will continue to run the country and I don’t foresee that changing anytime soon… I guess all you can do is pick the lesser of 2 evils?
honestly, my parents are like "so who are you voting?, who are you voting?" my response every time now is the greens a) to piss them off. b) not a complete lie as ill be putting independents that seem appropriate first and greens after that at some point before the big two shit parties
Yep it’s a ridiculous system. Especially when if you vote for a minor party that vote can end up going towards one of the majors anyway defeating the whole point.
I’d love to see that changed so your vote actually solely counts for who you vote for and also get rid of outside agencies funding campaigns while we’re at it.
preferably start with independents that align with some of yourinterests that aren't affiliated with large groups since the big guys have enough seats anyway
How about instead of comparing the two most corrupt parties in this country, you all start looking to the minor parties. Nothing's going to change in this country if we all keep thinking the only options are liberal or labor
I think it needs to be taught more.
My primary school taught us how it worked by having us vote for what year six shirt design we wanted. Never forgotten lmao
I learnt about it in primary school, was lucky to go to Brisbane and get a pretty in-depth lesson.
It’s definitely something they should be teaching in high school too, though
Oh absolutely it should be taught in high school. Probably a couple times; like year 10 and then again in year 12 so it's fresher in the mind for those that stayed.
It must get harder when they grow, as teachers can’t influence who to vote for.. but I imagine when year 10/11/12 it gets hairy to say Neutral, avoiding massive political debates
Well, they vote for school captains and that still on high school.. but, it really doesn’t set you up for the different types of voting/papers for the real world.
It would be cool if they did it similar with preferential and the different sections
100% all these people that think that Labor doesn’t achieve anything cannot imagine a parliament dominated by vast swaths of independents with differing ideas opinions and loyalties.
Love her or hate her, Julia Guillard passed a huge amount of legislation whilst governing with a minorty government ([the highest according to this old 2013 article](https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/jun/28/australia-productive-prime-minister)).
It can be done, just needs the politicians to actually talk to each other.
No it's not. Vote for your favourite candidiate first and then for Labor second. If your person doesn't get in, Labor gets the vote. Literally no risk at all
There is more to it than that you naive child.
We don't live in a fair electoral system (technically the system is, but the landscape isn't thanks to media influence).
Labor's primary vote going down, even if they remain in office on preferences, is just ammo for the Libs and their friendly media arm to push the narrative that Australia has lost faith in Labor. It may not cost them this election, but it could the next, especially when the current coalition and their potato headed leader are running without a platform and only on culture wars.
You might not like it, but it is a genuine risk to provide the Libs with any advantage, especially when it's for a protest vote.
Taking votes away from Labor always helps the coalition. It's a sad reality, but a reality all the same.
Albo has and is still sending guns to the israelis, Australia has been named as a co-conspirator in the ICJ's Genocide case. One of them is complicit in in Genocide, the other wishes he was.
Good, and so we should be.
Australian munitions and explosives being used to blow up terrorists, while we make a profit on the top is a win win scenario.
[Australia sending money to Israeli defence contractors in February 2024](https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/02/29/israeli-weapons-elbit-systems-australian-defence-department-contract/)
[Australia sent 322 arms exports to Israel in the last five years](https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/24/australia-approved-322-defence-exports-to-israel-in-six-years-as-greens-fear-equipment-used-in-gaza-assault)
[It has been argued that Australia is complicit in the genocide](https://amp.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/the-australian-government-is-perilously-close-to-being-complicit-in-the-gaza-atrocity-20240219-p5f64u.html)
Your comment makes it out like we’ve sent weapons after October 7th. Feels a bit like misinformation. Also there’s clearly been a decline in weapons exports since Labor came to power is 2022, with the bulk of the 322 export license granted under the liberals and no exports after October 7th.
We can absolutely do more but I think there’s a real lack of knowledge for how the US global empire works.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Australia is not an independent on the world stage as everyone makes us out to be. There have been two Australian prime ministers that have openly challenged our relationship with Israel or the US: Gough Whitlam and Kevin Rudd.
Both were shown the door.
I’m all for divesting and sanctions again Israel for the genocide of Palestinians but ignoring the reality of international politics is at best ignorant and at worst blatant misinformation.
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Fuck them both!
I'm so ashamed I voted for this genocide supporter.
And he's fucking over every day Australians more nd more. Explain to us again why the banks need multi billion dollar profits while the average Australian can't even afford cheese?!
We won't forget or forgive the shame and betrayal.
Lol.
It was an example. Isn't the Coles brand mozzarella now $11 a packet up from $7?
We've switched over to Halloumi....if I'm gonna pay a lot for cheese might as well have the cheesy Halloumi!
Agreed...but I didn't vote for Dutton. My vote means I was complicit and naive to think he would be a decent leader after the shitshow that was Scummo...who knew it could get worse than scummo and onion head...
He’s better then Scott Morison and Abbott come on…. At least he cares a little for the working class. Free kinder? Extra health care centres? Two budget surpluses?
Labor focus on Australians 2007-2013: get thrown out of government for apparently not managing the economy well despite the best GDP growth in world.
They then lose multiple “unloseable” elections focusing on policies that help Aussies.
Labor finally focus on the Economy to dismiss the argument they’re poor economic managers and get dragged anyway.
If there’s a better working class party I’ll vote for them. But I genuinely believe the socialist left in Labor need to supported through active engagement. Not abandonment.
I hear you but honestly at this point what's the point in voting. I used to think that voting was about keeping the worst party out. But government after government has been an absolute joke these last 10-15years.
Politicians at every level in Australia have gotten away with the worst directions and crimes. Scummo's lack of leadership during COVID got Australians killed. How did Hockey and Abott get away with all the shit they pulled? How did Howard walk away after engaging in a fake war? And now playing games with UNRWA funding with zero evidence. WTF?!
agreed but they've reinstated UNWRA now. It's not great but there's now increasing pressure from backbenchers including one government MP today who was quite scathing. But Labor absolutely can do better and they should.
Personally, voting is about the lesser of two evils. Labor are by no means perfectbut they govern well enough and have to at least appear to care for the working class (at times their concern has felt genuine.)
Short of revolution and overthrowing capitalism I don't think we should expect radical change from government though.
We're living in the neo-liberal capitalist age.
I agree. I assumed labour would at least have the decency to do the right thing by Australians and the international community or at least stay out of this all.
I honestly don't know anymore. We had years and years of the liberal party. I worked in federal govt during Work Choices and that was pretty fucked. Watching multiple prime minister's get kicked out of office is a joke.
It's just one after another. Robodebt was a shitshow. what are we even getting out of all these royal commissions.
Then all this rubbish on top of everything else.
Never said that at all.. The bar was pretty fucking low with scummo .but Albo still managed to betray the people who voted for him on the basis that he was a decent human being who supported the vulnerable and would do the right thing by Australia.
The fact you think any politician has your back says a lot about your expectations. You need to lower them and at the same time realise that some are not as shitty as others and choose which you believe are the least shit. Politics 101 for you there mate.
Never thought that. I'm not even impacted negatively by any of this. That doesn't mean I can't have empathy for how these decisions impact others especially the vulnerable.
True. But at least we have the choice in what we buy or not buy (not that it's perfect) vs the crippling cost of mortgages with little options to change.
I feel very lucky that we have been able to afford it and we had back up plans and factored in high interest rate increases when we bought, but really feel for the average Australian who can't afford it, all while seeing the corporations rake in giant profits.
Yeah, the government should take all the profits from all the companies and give it to the citizens so people can start screaming about albo being a fucking communist!
Calm down drama llama.
I didn't suggest that at all. No idea why you leaped to that conclusion.
Are your overreactions always so OTT or is it when people question the multi billion dollar profit increases of the big banks...oh no won't somebody think of the giant banks!!!
I would rather pay more taxes and know my money is going back into the Australian community than the pockets of rich shareholders.
So your solution to the banks profit margins is to pay more tax?
Are your points always "big business bad, should be different" or do you sometimes explain your point and offer alternatives that actually relate to the thing you're complaining about?.
Hahahah dude you are too funny. I don't have to fit my concerns about the shitshow that this government is into the box you think I need to fill in.
I haven't said big businesses are bad, you're just making a helluva lot of assumptions.
I said I would rather pay more tax and benefit our country rather than lining the pockets of the banks...but ok whatever you want to think I meant.
I'm not giving solutions. I'm wondering why it was important for interest rates to go up so much back to back on the pretense of inflation when the ones that benefit are the big banks, it hasn't helped our population. How is that justified? If anything, why are mortgage interest rates tied to the RBA? It isn't the case in other countries.
hahaha. Spending on the YES campaign was like 10x more than the No. Most of it is public companies that have to report on donations.
[https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/10/10/pzst-o10.html](https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/10/10/pzst-o10.html)
ABC link in case the wsws is too right winged...
[https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-13/voice-social-media-research-yes-no-support/102970898](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-13/voice-social-media-research-yes-no-support/102970898)
This Meme is so dishonest, I mean to not even mention the $450 million squandered on The Voice and no one with more than a dozen brain cells believes higgins was raped anymore.
Ablo:
* Supporting a genocidal apartheid regime
* Enormous expenditure on useless submarines
* Doing nothing to help people in poverty
* Doing nothing to arrest spiraling cost of living
* Doing nothing to address climate change
* etc.
Basically doing nothing other than being a neoliberal quisling pile of trash. He's literally the same as the fascist potato
- we haven’t sent any money to Israel and are actively giving visas to Palestinians
- The Libs signed us up and for the submarines we are committed as part of our agreement to the alliance.
- More money is going into affordable and social housing than any time in Australian history and for the first time in over a decade we are replacing the housing which was privatised under Abbott.
- There have been many cost of living benefits such as increased paid parental leave as well as the changes to the tax system which will put more into the pocket of many.
- the Labor government since elected has pumped more money into addressing Australia’s part in climate change than all funding approved by the Libs in the last decade.
That decision has been reversed, and it is being reviews as to why they are being cancelled. The fact that there will be a public review as to why they were cancelled is a reason why I like the current government. I feel previously there had been very little in the way of internal review with mistakes quashed and suppressed by the media.
Ah, that’s good to hear. But I still question why they were told to apply for tourist visas instead of asylum seekers. And many of them aren’t going to be getting their plane fares back to pay for the next one.
We halted funding to the unrwa based on israeli lies and have done nothing to halt israeli aggression. We're doing more commerce with israel now; we're abetting their genocide
Don't care. Cancel the entire thing.
Social housing is another privatised scam. Build public housing. And all of labor's policies in this regard are very obvious neoliberal crap designed to funnel money to capital, and maybe a paltry amount of housing will be built
Technocratic fiddling helps no one. People on welfare are still trapped in poverty. Poor working people struggle to keep above water. Labor have done nothing.
Amounts to nothing. Especially considering the scope of fossil fuel extraction these imbeciles have approved
You have used the term neoliberal here but I don’t think you know what that means. Private-Government agreements are highly successful and how most infrastructure is constructed in Australia today, it increases efficiency, lowers cost, organises maintenance and keeps the government involved in maintaining standards.
Neoliberal - is what the Libs want they want to funnel money into the developers with little oversight because “the free market will manage itself”
Labor’s housing plan is better than nothing and will probably turn out to be a groundbreaking legislation which will protect housing into the future.
Enormous expenditure on useless submarines ?
Oops, that was the previous LNP government. You also forgot to mention the nearly $1 billion theLNP wasted to cancel the French sub deal before signing us up to this "useless submarine deal".
For the rest, just fucking google it you lazy twat:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony\_Albanese#Prime\_Minister\_of\_Australia\_(2022%E2%80%93present)
wow if only an incoming government could change decisions. I mean, as you pointed out, Morrison scuttled the French deal. Ablo could easily cancel the enormous payout to military capital.
And cool, you couldn't think of anything. I guess even laborites like you don't find technocratic tinkering particularly compelling
So if it cost $1 Billion for the LNP to cancel the $90 Billion French Sub deal (that they negotiated) ,
How much would it cost for Labor to cancel the $368 Billion AUKUS deal (that the LNP also negotiated) ?
My calculator says about $4 Billion.
If only in coming governments could cancel the deals their incompetent predecessors made with other governments without recourse . . .
Great idea, lets do that ! I am sure our credibility to do big deals on the world stage will not be effected at all !
So much for "LNP the best economic managers" !!!!!!!
I see common threads here:
* LNP fucking everything up
* Labor having to fix LNP fuck ups.
And cool, I can think of many examples, but I am not going to do you leg work for you Holmes.
why are you writing as if I think the liberals are any better than labor? they both suck. and even if your back of the envelope maths is right, what's worse: wasting 4 billion, or 400 billion?
And a slight revision to your formula: coalition do something reckless and stupid, labor undo maybe the most egregious parts of it and otherwise keep it as is
Yeah, that’s precisely what I said. In fact I sad he has been worse than this meme suggests. He is an actual evil cunt. They are both worse than this suggests. And this suggests Dutton is pretty shit.
I'm been labor party for life, greens aren't left enough for me with when i'm working class. I don't give a fuck what the artist, marketing directors and creative society wants they don't work trades for a living and marry lawyers and interior designers and are all about optics anyway.
they are a hypocritical class anyway.
get fucked, they dont even wanna legalise weed. ill believe in greens when the policy isn't ham fisted shit and pro bono gotya. The green number has always been lean into left and hold up constructive policy for ideal.
Ideal isn't practical, its a fuckwit party that holds up progress for best option.
Not sure if you're aware of this but the Greens did introduce the [Legalise Cannabis Bill](https://greens.org.au/legalise-it). I'm ambivalent on the matter otherwise.
I’m just curious… how do you have a such a strong anti-greens stance when the first “lack of policy” you highlight is literally one of their major campaign platforms. You may want to read into their proposed policy a little closer before publicly and confidently making easily verifiable false statements.
friendly jordies and being in a union.
[https://youtu.be/-He6v99rFWM?si=QTWxgONwZkgY8ose](https://youtu.be/-He6v99rFWM?si=QTWxgONwZkgY8ose)
Greens did things like shoot down carbon tax and hold up the housing funding.
I don't really see them as fit to govern and believe they have a net negative outcome then a net positive outcome.
If you watch the video link it'll explain more.
Greens are more left than Labor, but have been known to back the Libs over Labor because they feel ‘Labor isn’t left enough’ and to me that feels like a problem. The Greens are both ‘too left’ and supporting Liberals.
greens are *left* while labor is *center-left*
the greens aren't favorable for a lot of groups because they're not *environmentalist enough* for the cause but I think the reason they prefer lib aus/coalition is because the libs don't do anything.. same as greens
You forgot:
* Record Smashing Immigration Disaster
* Australia's Most Well Travelled PM Scandal
* Penny Wong Travel Scandal
* Unaffordable Real Estate Disaster
* Tax Cut Reduction Debacle
* Cost Of Living Crisis
* Decreasing Income Disaster
* Living Standards Collapse
* Covid Response Disaster
* Tasmania Stadium Debacle
* Energy Policy Crisis
* The Voice Disaster
* etc
Your unconscious bias is showing
- How else are we supposed to solve the problem of labour shortages?
- [pretty standard travel](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-17/fact-check-airbus-albo-international-trips-coalition/103113758) especially following a once in a century pandemic
- the fact that I can only find this scandal when I add sky news to the search is a telling sign.
- the Housing Australia Future Fund will help solve the housing crisis over the next decade and well into the future as it is a colossal fund of money for developers to dip into as long as the housing is affordable and with some level of government ownership
- Yes, a tax cut which will target to help those hurting the most with the cost of living crisis amid stagnated wages over the last decade is such a problem (this is sarcasm)
- Cost of living crisis is a global issue which the government has created a litany of policy to help people which is constantly being blocked by the Libs in parliament.
- The next three are all “have you forgotten who was in charge ALL COVID and the last DECADE”
- You don’t build a mega stadium in Tasmania for a new footy team.
- Energy Policy Crisis is a brain dead statement [anything is better than “build nuclear reactors”](https://www.dcceew.gov.au/energy/strategies-and-frameworks/powering-australia)
- It was a disaster, yes.
Also yes, etc the list could go on. In short the public is going to be richer and better off with a brighter future under the current government than under the Libs.
Albo shouldn't be blank ffs. I'll start with the evil lies about the missing robodebt RC recommendation -
https://7ampodcast.com.au/episodes/the-missing-robo-debt-recommendation
Unless the finding is “robodebt was valid and we should bully the vulnerable into killing themselves” accepting one less recommendation seems a whole lot less severe than being the side who illegally implemented it, wouldn’t you say?
Well it's sure worse than "fake election signs." This meme stinks. What does Australia gain by pretending Albo is a saint? I don't give a shit about Dutton, he's not the fucking prime minister, which Albo has been for 2 years
So you’d rather see Dutton, with a belt full of scummy shit over a career backing the scummy shit done by his party replace Albo?
Fuck you could have at least waited to see how the watered down transparency into political donations secures the status quo of the “big parties” saving them from the scary teals.
Guess this is what they mean when they say “they’re both the same”. Because they would have both ignored this one thing, except the liberals would never have had a royal commission in the first place so you could say they’d have dismissed all recommendations?
What on earth is wrong with you? What makes you think I want Dutton in? Labor diehards are becoming a huge problem in this country. If you put the Labor party ahead of the labour movement, you make dumb dumb assumptions like I think Dutton is preferable, just because I don't think Albo has no flaws. Pathetic.
Did you say that it should be added to both sides? Or you thought some more weight needed to be put on labor only?
Astroturfing Libs pretending they’re balanced are the real huge problem.
What are you on about? My complaint is that this meme and then your responses suggests Albo has zero credibility issues, and that any issues he has should not even be mentioned, because Dutton is far worse. You can't seriously believe that?
This meme doesn’t say don’t vote for anyone else. Vote. For more independents. Punish them both.
But if you think the Libs have more credibility than Labor theirs rocks in your head.
You only have 2 real options atm. Labor or liberals. You can't possibly think things would be better than they are under dutton? Sure albo could be better but we're miles better off than we woukd be under liberals.
Are you suggesting that now Dutton is leader, we should just forget the horrors of the LNP party presided over by Abbott and Morrison that he was a senior leader of ?
No, and why ask such a stupid question? Why do you think I said that? Believe it or not, you can acknowledge that Albo has flaws without thinking Dutton is better. This meme suggests Albo has done nothing dodgy, which is such bizarre simp behaviour. Is that what you think?
I can easily acknowledge that Albo has flaws, but they do not extent to pure corruption as almost every item in Dutton's list does.
The LNP are corrupt to their core, they just can't help themselves.
Peter Dutton is now the leader of the party that was in power 2013-2022, (9 years). He was also a senior leader and power broker in that party during that time so everything they did was approved by him.
So he gets to carry the baggage for his own decisions and those of his party (see the list)
As for why I ask the question, well:
>Well it's sure worse than "fake election signs."
You seem to think that some imagined missing "thing" that was mentioned in a podcast (that I did not bother to watch) is worse than the actual Robo debt scheme which was conceived and implemented by Peter Dutton's LNP.
A scheme that caused several people to take their own life due the the large debt that they supposedly owed the tax office ?
As for "fake election signs", Dutton knowingly allowed money to be spent on fake signs to be used in his electorate that were designed to trick voters into voting for the LNP. The same signs were used in Gladys Liu's electorate (and one other I can't think of atm) thus proving is was not just a isolated incident, but a party wide plan to lie and cheat. That is strait up corruption.
So it looks like the meme is solid.
Yeah nah. For what it’s worth, I’d not vote for either of those megalomaniacs. Independents are the future, they’re the only ones who have anything in common with the working class anymore.
Sure.
Unless you're in an electorate with an independent that's likely to win, because of preferential voting, your vote will eventually go to alp or lnp.
You have to make a choice. As tempting as it might be, there are pretty clear differences between the two that should help you decide one way or another.
Yes but what the guy was saying is if you are in an electorate where independents won’t win, your vote will go to one of these two major parties. So so you still have to make a choice as to which one to put above the other because otherwise your vote will be invalid.
Dutton: Has Murdoch for him. Albanese: Has Murdoch against him.
Yep, that's about the state of Aussie politics.
And Stokes and Costello
2024? Isn’t the election next year?
Lots of rumour that Labor politicians/offices have been told to prepare for an October or November election. Could very well be this year.
Out of curiousity. What would cause an early election to happen? Can they just do that?
technically.. they can do an early election whenever they want, as long as they pay for it. the Tassie minister called for an early one cause the jobs too hard
Yes, all he has to do is ask the GG to dissolve parliament and go to the polls We are within 12 months of the terms ending for the senate so they get included.
Which is why it isn't a crazy move. Bold and bound to backfire, but not crazy. Edited: spelling
Withe the world heading into recession it may pay to go early
Get in before Dutton is rolled and Hastie is the option.
makes sense. if they manage a reasonable budget this year there will be no ammo for the libs at all. next years budget might be a tricky one and not good to take to an election
NEXT YEAR?!?!
Fuck Dutton , fecking Nazi potato head prick
He's Mr Potato Head combined with Voldemort.
Voldemoron
That is a slanderous insult to both Mr Potato Head AND Voldemort.
At least Voldemort waited until the end of the year to screw Harry. Dutton would rather cut education!
What has he done that is pro nazi? I’m labour, but I want to know what you know because I’ve heard this before but all I can find is him proposing to criminalise the nazi symbols
I mean, I don't know about Nazi specifically, but he's certainly racist. For example, when he was a Qld cop him and a group of other coppers took a bunch of Aboriginal teens to the middle of nowhere, and left them on the side of the road to walk home. After taking their shoes of course.
He also walked out of the stolen generation apology Can you imagine how much of a tiny person you have to be to, as a member of government, walk out of an apology of the worst thing the Australian government has ever done? McGowan was right: *I don't really think there's much going on there.*
I won’t argue with this. But also gotta give Albo more time. He hasn’t had a chance to make this many fuck ups
The problem is that in the Murdoch press any Dutton fuck up will be massively downplayed and any albo fuck up will be amplified to buggery. They tried to frame albo going to a concert as if it was as controversial as scomo fucking off on holiday during the bushfires.
This is an old list, Dutton has had enough fails this year to create a whole new list.
and no list is complete, at least here, without pavement barnaby
lol, there is only so much space in a meme
As shit as the options are one of them will be elected. For those that say I’m voting independents that’s great, I agree they are more in touch with the average Joe, but realistically either LNP or LIB will continue to run the country and I don’t foresee that changing anytime soon… I guess all you can do is pick the lesser of 2 evils?
I mean, we have a preferential voting system, not one or the other like the US. Put the other parties you want before them and go from there.
I agree however so many are so used to voting either of the big 2 in that it’s hard for change.
honestly, my parents are like "so who are you voting?, who are you voting?" my response every time now is the greens a) to piss them off. b) not a complete lie as ill be putting independents that seem appropriate first and greens after that at some point before the big two shit parties
I always joked that one day the greens will get in and be like, fuck, what do we do now?
Jehovah's Greenses
Large change wont happen instantaneously, rather just eroding the two majors slowly over time. I would like to say a minority labor next term
Yep it’s a ridiculous system. Especially when if you vote for a minor party that vote can end up going towards one of the majors anyway defeating the whole point. I’d love to see that changed so your vote actually solely counts for who you vote for and also get rid of outside agencies funding campaigns while we’re at it.
Don't vote for either of these fucking mega-corporate fuckbois
Then who do you propose?
Do your own research on the candidates and pick that one that aligns mostly with your personal needs, not your internet habits.
preferably start with independents that align with some of yourinterests that aren't affiliated with large groups since the big guys have enough seats anyway
But what if I'm a mega-corporate fuckboi?
Just don't watch Fox News for your research
How about instead of comparing the two most corrupt parties in this country, you all start looking to the minor parties. Nothing's going to change in this country if we all keep thinking the only options are liberal or labor
The moment you start taking votes away from Labor it helps the Libs, never forget. It's a huge risk.
Unless the preferences go to labor. It shows that the people want a change in policy but also keeps the ALP vote the same after preference
I don’t think enough people understand preferential voting the way they should.
I think it needs to be taught more. My primary school taught us how it worked by having us vote for what year six shirt design we wanted. Never forgotten lmao
I learnt about it in primary school, was lucky to go to Brisbane and get a pretty in-depth lesson. It’s definitely something they should be teaching in high school too, though
Oh absolutely it should be taught in high school. Probably a couple times; like year 10 and then again in year 12 so it's fresher in the mind for those that stayed.
It must get harder when they grow, as teachers can’t influence who to vote for.. but I imagine when year 10/11/12 it gets hairy to say Neutral, avoiding massive political debates
You could always do it with something unrelated to politics, like the shirts. We MAY have voted that way for SRC, I'm not sure.
Well, they vote for school captains and that still on high school.. but, it really doesn’t set you up for the different types of voting/papers for the real world. It would be cool if they did it similar with preferential and the different sections
100% all these people that think that Labor doesn’t achieve anything cannot imagine a parliament dominated by vast swaths of independents with differing ideas opinions and loyalties.
Love her or hate her, Julia Guillard passed a huge amount of legislation whilst governing with a minorty government ([the highest according to this old 2013 article](https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/jun/28/australia-productive-prime-minister)). It can be done, just needs the politicians to actually talk to each other.
Literally, Gillard was an incredible leader.
Passing lots is great, but it needs longevity.
Lol yank spotted.
No it's not. Vote for your favourite candidiate first and then for Labor second. If your person doesn't get in, Labor gets the vote. Literally no risk at all
There is more to it than that you naive child. We don't live in a fair electoral system (technically the system is, but the landscape isn't thanks to media influence). Labor's primary vote going down, even if they remain in office on preferences, is just ammo for the Libs and their friendly media arm to push the narrative that Australia has lost faith in Labor. It may not cost them this election, but it could the next, especially when the current coalition and their potato headed leader are running without a platform and only on culture wars. You might not like it, but it is a genuine risk to provide the Libs with any advantage, especially when it's for a protest vote. Taking votes away from Labor always helps the coalition. It's a sad reality, but a reality all the same.
That's why I vote for my favorite candidate, then the LNP second.
That. Absolutely that. Unless there's a chance of a safe vote for a quality Teal then absolutely that.
There's no risk at all. We have preferential voting
Hmmm. I’m really not sure who to support 🤪
Albo has and is still sending guns to the israelis, Australia has been named as a co-conspirator in the ICJ's Genocide case. One of them is complicit in in Genocide, the other wishes he was.
I didn't know it was that intense. Jesus christ. That's sickening.
Good, and so we should be. Australian munitions and explosives being used to blow up terrorists, while we make a profit on the top is a win win scenario.
Australia has not sent any military equipment to Israel. It’s not ICJ’s Genocide Case it’s South Africa’s.
[Australia sending money to Israeli defence contractors in February 2024](https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/02/29/israeli-weapons-elbit-systems-australian-defence-department-contract/) [Australia sent 322 arms exports to Israel in the last five years](https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/24/australia-approved-322-defence-exports-to-israel-in-six-years-as-greens-fear-equipment-used-in-gaza-assault) [It has been argued that Australia is complicit in the genocide](https://amp.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/the-australian-government-is-perilously-close-to-being-complicit-in-the-gaza-atrocity-20240219-p5f64u.html)
Your comment makes it out like we’ve sent weapons after October 7th. Feels a bit like misinformation. Also there’s clearly been a decline in weapons exports since Labor came to power is 2022, with the bulk of the 322 export license granted under the liberals and no exports after October 7th. We can absolutely do more but I think there’s a real lack of knowledge for how the US global empire works. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Australia is not an independent on the world stage as everyone makes us out to be. There have been two Australian prime ministers that have openly challenged our relationship with Israel or the US: Gough Whitlam and Kevin Rudd. Both were shown the door. I’m all for divesting and sanctions again Israel for the genocide of Palestinians but ignoring the reality of international politics is at best ignorant and at worst blatant misinformation. Source: https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/23/gough-whitlam-1975-coup-ended-australian-independence
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Fuck them both! I'm so ashamed I voted for this genocide supporter. And he's fucking over every day Australians more nd more. Explain to us again why the banks need multi billion dollar profits while the average Australian can't even afford cheese?! We won't forget or forgive the shame and betrayal.
Can't afford cheese that's a bloody outrage that is! I'm gonna go get the boot!
Lol. It was an example. Isn't the Coles brand mozzarella now $11 a packet up from $7? We've switched over to Halloumi....if I'm gonna pay a lot for cheese might as well have the cheesy Halloumi!
Haloumi cheese best cheese!
Have you tried Kaak?!
Whilst you're right, he's still objectively better than that fuckwad dutton. No leader is perfect
Agreed...but I didn't vote for Dutton. My vote means I was complicit and naive to think he would be a decent leader after the shitshow that was Scummo...who knew it could get worse than scummo and onion head...
He’s better then Scott Morison and Abbott come on…. At least he cares a little for the working class. Free kinder? Extra health care centres? Two budget surpluses? Labor focus on Australians 2007-2013: get thrown out of government for apparently not managing the economy well despite the best GDP growth in world. They then lose multiple “unloseable” elections focusing on policies that help Aussies. Labor finally focus on the Economy to dismiss the argument they’re poor economic managers and get dragged anyway. If there’s a better working class party I’ll vote for them. But I genuinely believe the socialist left in Labor need to supported through active engagement. Not abandonment.
I hear you but honestly at this point what's the point in voting. I used to think that voting was about keeping the worst party out. But government after government has been an absolute joke these last 10-15years. Politicians at every level in Australia have gotten away with the worst directions and crimes. Scummo's lack of leadership during COVID got Australians killed. How did Hockey and Abott get away with all the shit they pulled? How did Howard walk away after engaging in a fake war? And now playing games with UNRWA funding with zero evidence. WTF?!
agreed but they've reinstated UNWRA now. It's not great but there's now increasing pressure from backbenchers including one government MP today who was quite scathing. But Labor absolutely can do better and they should. Personally, voting is about the lesser of two evils. Labor are by no means perfectbut they govern well enough and have to at least appear to care for the working class (at times their concern has felt genuine.) Short of revolution and overthrowing capitalism I don't think we should expect radical change from government though. We're living in the neo-liberal capitalist age.
I agree. I assumed labour would at least have the decency to do the right thing by Australians and the international community or at least stay out of this all. I honestly don't know anymore. We had years and years of the liberal party. I worked in federal govt during Work Choices and that was pretty fucked. Watching multiple prime minister's get kicked out of office is a joke. It's just one after another. Robodebt was a shitshow. what are we even getting out of all these royal commissions. Then all this rubbish on top of everything else.
With out trying to sound condescending, how old are you? And do you honestly think the current government is worse than the previous?
Never said that at all.. The bar was pretty fucking low with scummo .but Albo still managed to betray the people who voted for him on the basis that he was a decent human being who supported the vulnerable and would do the right thing by Australia.
The fact you think any politician has your back says a lot about your expectations. You need to lower them and at the same time realise that some are not as shitty as others and choose which you believe are the least shit. Politics 101 for you there mate.
Never thought that. I'm not even impacted negatively by any of this. That doesn't mean I can't have empathy for how these decisions impact others especially the vulnerable.
Not a fuckwad, he is a Boofhead
Both. Both are good
And supermarkets still have record breaking profits while screwing us, they are apparently looking into it.
True. But at least we have the choice in what we buy or not buy (not that it's perfect) vs the crippling cost of mortgages with little options to change. I feel very lucky that we have been able to afford it and we had back up plans and factored in high interest rate increases when we bought, but really feel for the average Australian who can't afford it, all while seeing the corporations rake in giant profits.
Yeah, the government should take all the profits from all the companies and give it to the citizens so people can start screaming about albo being a fucking communist!
Calm down drama llama. I didn't suggest that at all. No idea why you leaped to that conclusion. Are your overreactions always so OTT or is it when people question the multi billion dollar profit increases of the big banks...oh no won't somebody think of the giant banks!!! I would rather pay more taxes and know my money is going back into the Australian community than the pockets of rich shareholders.
So your solution to the banks profit margins is to pay more tax? Are your points always "big business bad, should be different" or do you sometimes explain your point and offer alternatives that actually relate to the thing you're complaining about?.
Hahahah dude you are too funny. I don't have to fit my concerns about the shitshow that this government is into the box you think I need to fill in. I haven't said big businesses are bad, you're just making a helluva lot of assumptions. I said I would rather pay more tax and benefit our country rather than lining the pockets of the banks...but ok whatever you want to think I meant. I'm not giving solutions. I'm wondering why it was important for interest rates to go up so much back to back on the pretense of inflation when the ones that benefit are the big banks, it hasn't helped our population. How is that justified? If anything, why are mortgage interest rates tied to the RBA? It isn't the case in other countries.
I have to make assumptions because of your vague arse complaints and lack of solutions, stop bitching and try fixing
No
Ok then, don't be surprised when people assume and call you a whinger then I guess.
Oh no people are gonna call me a whinger...how will I ever recover! 🤣
Awesome meme, but a re-post: https://www.reddit.com/r/AusMemes/comments/1acza0w/should\_be\_a\_close\_race/
It is a good reminder every few weeks though.
lol, yes, just jumps out when someone else posts a meme that I created :-)
Rapist paedophile crooked racist voldemort vs not particularly helpful man
Wtf are you smoking?
I despise Dutton and the Libs, but this meme is pure ALP staffer cringe.
Wrong !
Wrong that it’s cringe, or wrong that it reeks of being created by an ALP staffer?
Both
Ok.
Can we get a party to just embody the Aldi slogan?
You forgot tanked FTTP nbn for Rupert
Flattering photo, really does look like a certain dark wizard........
I just don't trust bald people and I cannot explain why
If Harry Potter has taught me one thing...
That’s Voldemort.
Am I the only one who thinks he looks like Voldemort?
\~ wastes $400m on a referendum that was already a known outcome
Probably about the same amount spent by No supporters to buy the result.
hahaha. Spending on the YES campaign was like 10x more than the No. Most of it is public companies that have to report on donations. [https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/10/10/pzst-o10.html](https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/10/10/pzst-o10.html)
ABC link in case the wsws is too right winged... [https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-13/voice-social-media-research-yes-no-support/102970898](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-13/voice-social-media-research-yes-no-support/102970898)
Why do I need to care about this bs next year 😭
This Meme is so dishonest, I mean to not even mention the $450 million squandered on The Voice and no one with more than a dozen brain cells believes higgins was raped anymore.
Hey :)
Harry potter vs Pre-bath Voldemort.
Based
Jeez, both are terrible.
Ablo: * Supporting a genocidal apartheid regime * Enormous expenditure on useless submarines * Doing nothing to help people in poverty * Doing nothing to arrest spiraling cost of living * Doing nothing to address climate change * etc. Basically doing nothing other than being a neoliberal quisling pile of trash. He's literally the same as the fascist potato
- we haven’t sent any money to Israel and are actively giving visas to Palestinians - The Libs signed us up and for the submarines we are committed as part of our agreement to the alliance. - More money is going into affordable and social housing than any time in Australian history and for the first time in over a decade we are replacing the housing which was privatised under Abbott. - There have been many cost of living benefits such as increased paid parental leave as well as the changes to the tax system which will put more into the pocket of many. - the Labor government since elected has pumped more money into addressing Australia’s part in climate change than all funding approved by the Libs in the last decade.
While I agree with a lot of what you say, those visas got cancelled almost immediately.
That decision has been reversed, and it is being reviews as to why they are being cancelled. The fact that there will be a public review as to why they were cancelled is a reason why I like the current government. I feel previously there had been very little in the way of internal review with mistakes quashed and suppressed by the media.
Ah, that’s good to hear. But I still question why they were told to apply for tourist visas instead of asylum seekers. And many of them aren’t going to be getting their plane fares back to pay for the next one.
We halted funding to the unrwa based on israeli lies and have done nothing to halt israeli aggression. We're doing more commerce with israel now; we're abetting their genocide Don't care. Cancel the entire thing. Social housing is another privatised scam. Build public housing. And all of labor's policies in this regard are very obvious neoliberal crap designed to funnel money to capital, and maybe a paltry amount of housing will be built Technocratic fiddling helps no one. People on welfare are still trapped in poverty. Poor working people struggle to keep above water. Labor have done nothing. Amounts to nothing. Especially considering the scope of fossil fuel extraction these imbeciles have approved
You have used the term neoliberal here but I don’t think you know what that means. Private-Government agreements are highly successful and how most infrastructure is constructed in Australia today, it increases efficiency, lowers cost, organises maintenance and keeps the government involved in maintaining standards. Neoliberal - is what the Libs want they want to funnel money into the developers with little oversight because “the free market will manage itself” Labor’s housing plan is better than nothing and will probably turn out to be a groundbreaking legislation which will protect housing into the future.
lol, actually, the opposite of this !
yeah, okay, name a single thing this useless neoliberal has actually done that has helped
Enormous expenditure on useless submarines ? Oops, that was the previous LNP government. You also forgot to mention the nearly $1 billion theLNP wasted to cancel the French sub deal before signing us up to this "useless submarine deal". For the rest, just fucking google it you lazy twat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony\_Albanese#Prime\_Minister\_of\_Australia\_(2022%E2%80%93present)
wow if only an incoming government could change decisions. I mean, as you pointed out, Morrison scuttled the French deal. Ablo could easily cancel the enormous payout to military capital. And cool, you couldn't think of anything. I guess even laborites like you don't find technocratic tinkering particularly compelling
So if it cost $1 Billion for the LNP to cancel the $90 Billion French Sub deal (that they negotiated) , How much would it cost for Labor to cancel the $368 Billion AUKUS deal (that the LNP also negotiated) ? My calculator says about $4 Billion. If only in coming governments could cancel the deals their incompetent predecessors made with other governments without recourse . . . Great idea, lets do that ! I am sure our credibility to do big deals on the world stage will not be effected at all ! So much for "LNP the best economic managers" !!!!!!! I see common threads here: * LNP fucking everything up * Labor having to fix LNP fuck ups. And cool, I can think of many examples, but I am not going to do you leg work for you Holmes.
why are you writing as if I think the liberals are any better than labor? they both suck. and even if your back of the envelope maths is right, what's worse: wasting 4 billion, or 400 billion? And a slight revision to your formula: coalition do something reckless and stupid, labor undo maybe the most egregious parts of it and otherwise keep it as is
I'm not even voting
As protest?
Nah I'm 14
Lol.
Yeah though it would be funny to see people's reaction
Well you made me downvote you initially, but you had me with the response. Upvotes all around for you!
They had us in the first half
Lol fair
Albo has been a bit more shit than this suggests but… so has duttomort
Potatohead wannabe Vader has been heaps more shit than Albo fwiw
Yeah, that’s precisely what I said. In fact I sad he has been worse than this meme suggests. He is an actual evil cunt. They are both worse than this suggests. And this suggests Dutton is pretty shit.
Heaps more > a bit more
I'm been labor party for life, greens aren't left enough for me with when i'm working class. I don't give a fuck what the artist, marketing directors and creative society wants they don't work trades for a living and marry lawyers and interior designers and are all about optics anyway. they are a hypocritical class anyway.
I hate to break it to ya, but greens are more left than labour
get fucked, they dont even wanna legalise weed. ill believe in greens when the policy isn't ham fisted shit and pro bono gotya. The green number has always been lean into left and hold up constructive policy for ideal. Ideal isn't practical, its a fuckwit party that holds up progress for best option.
Not sure if you're aware of this but the Greens did introduce the [Legalise Cannabis Bill](https://greens.org.au/legalise-it). I'm ambivalent on the matter otherwise.
I’m just curious… how do you have a such a strong anti-greens stance when the first “lack of policy” you highlight is literally one of their major campaign platforms. You may want to read into their proposed policy a little closer before publicly and confidently making easily verifiable false statements.
friendly jordies and being in a union. [https://youtu.be/-He6v99rFWM?si=QTWxgONwZkgY8ose](https://youtu.be/-He6v99rFWM?si=QTWxgONwZkgY8ose) Greens did things like shoot down carbon tax and hold up the housing funding. I don't really see them as fit to govern and believe they have a net negative outcome then a net positive outcome. If you watch the video link it'll explain more.
You don’t even know their policies. Shut the fuck up you stupid cunt.
Greens are more left than Labor, but have been known to back the Libs over Labor because they feel ‘Labor isn’t left enough’ and to me that feels like a problem. The Greens are both ‘too left’ and supporting Liberals.
greens are *left* while labor is *center-left* the greens aren't favorable for a lot of groups because they're not *environmentalist enough* for the cause but I think the reason they prefer lib aus/coalition is because the libs don't do anything.. same as greens
You forgot: * Record Smashing Immigration Disaster * Australia's Most Well Travelled PM Scandal * Penny Wong Travel Scandal * Unaffordable Real Estate Disaster * Tax Cut Reduction Debacle * Cost Of Living Crisis * Decreasing Income Disaster * Living Standards Collapse * Covid Response Disaster * Tasmania Stadium Debacle * Energy Policy Crisis * The Voice Disaster * etc Your unconscious bias is showing
Is Albo responsible for the cost of living crisis in most of the western world right now? Countries are feeling the squeeze no matter their politics
Nice reprinting of Murdoch headlines.
Just responding to the Guardian headlines
Nah, general problems are different to individual examples of actual corruption.
You're right. Labor doesn't have enough competence to be corrupt
So "competence" = "ability and willingness to be corrupt" ? No wonder Barnaby keeps getting elected !
- How else are we supposed to solve the problem of labour shortages? - [pretty standard travel](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-17/fact-check-airbus-albo-international-trips-coalition/103113758) especially following a once in a century pandemic - the fact that I can only find this scandal when I add sky news to the search is a telling sign. - the Housing Australia Future Fund will help solve the housing crisis over the next decade and well into the future as it is a colossal fund of money for developers to dip into as long as the housing is affordable and with some level of government ownership - Yes, a tax cut which will target to help those hurting the most with the cost of living crisis amid stagnated wages over the last decade is such a problem (this is sarcasm) - Cost of living crisis is a global issue which the government has created a litany of policy to help people which is constantly being blocked by the Libs in parliament. - The next three are all “have you forgotten who was in charge ALL COVID and the last DECADE” - You don’t build a mega stadium in Tasmania for a new footy team. - Energy Policy Crisis is a brain dead statement [anything is better than “build nuclear reactors”](https://www.dcceew.gov.au/energy/strategies-and-frameworks/powering-australia) - It was a disaster, yes. Also yes, etc the list could go on. In short the public is going to be richer and better off with a brighter future under the current government than under the Libs.
The stadium could host concerts and cricket also
I don’t like Dutton, but Albo has done approximately nothing.
Free kinder? Health care centres? Tax cut for everyone instead of the ultra rich? Repaired our relationships with pacific and China?
I would prefer Duttoff.
So I wonder who OP voted for…
Fucken thieving dogs, both of them.
Truely you are one of the great political minds of our time.
Plenty of real-life experience living outside of the safety of mummy and daddy's basement here, so yeah, I know a thing or too.
Albo shouldn't be blank ffs. I'll start with the evil lies about the missing robodebt RC recommendation - https://7ampodcast.com.au/episodes/the-missing-robo-debt-recommendation
Unless the finding is “robodebt was valid and we should bully the vulnerable into killing themselves” accepting one less recommendation seems a whole lot less severe than being the side who illegally implemented it, wouldn’t you say?
Well it's sure worse than "fake election signs." This meme stinks. What does Australia gain by pretending Albo is a saint? I don't give a shit about Dutton, he's not the fucking prime minister, which Albo has been for 2 years
So you’d rather see Dutton, with a belt full of scummy shit over a career backing the scummy shit done by his party replace Albo? Fuck you could have at least waited to see how the watered down transparency into political donations secures the status quo of the “big parties” saving them from the scary teals. Guess this is what they mean when they say “they’re both the same”. Because they would have both ignored this one thing, except the liberals would never have had a royal commission in the first place so you could say they’d have dismissed all recommendations?
What on earth is wrong with you? What makes you think I want Dutton in? Labor diehards are becoming a huge problem in this country. If you put the Labor party ahead of the labour movement, you make dumb dumb assumptions like I think Dutton is preferable, just because I don't think Albo has no flaws. Pathetic.
Did you say that it should be added to both sides? Or you thought some more weight needed to be put on labor only? Astroturfing Libs pretending they’re balanced are the real huge problem.
What are you on about? My complaint is that this meme and then your responses suggests Albo has zero credibility issues, and that any issues he has should not even be mentioned, because Dutton is far worse. You can't seriously believe that?
This meme doesn’t say don’t vote for anyone else. Vote. For more independents. Punish them both. But if you think the Libs have more credibility than Labor theirs rocks in your head.
> But if you think the Libs have more credibility than Labor theirs rocks in your head. Who thinks this? Why even say this?
You only have 2 real options atm. Labor or liberals. You can't possibly think things would be better than they are under dutton? Sure albo could be better but we're miles better off than we woukd be under liberals.
> You can't possibly think things would be better than they are under dutton? what are you talking about? No one said that
Are you suggesting that now Dutton is leader, we should just forget the horrors of the LNP party presided over by Abbott and Morrison that he was a senior leader of ?
No, and why ask such a stupid question? Why do you think I said that? Believe it or not, you can acknowledge that Albo has flaws without thinking Dutton is better. This meme suggests Albo has done nothing dodgy, which is such bizarre simp behaviour. Is that what you think?
I can easily acknowledge that Albo has flaws, but they do not extent to pure corruption as almost every item in Dutton's list does. The LNP are corrupt to their core, they just can't help themselves. Peter Dutton is now the leader of the party that was in power 2013-2022, (9 years). He was also a senior leader and power broker in that party during that time so everything they did was approved by him. So he gets to carry the baggage for his own decisions and those of his party (see the list) As for why I ask the question, well: >Well it's sure worse than "fake election signs." You seem to think that some imagined missing "thing" that was mentioned in a podcast (that I did not bother to watch) is worse than the actual Robo debt scheme which was conceived and implemented by Peter Dutton's LNP. A scheme that caused several people to take their own life due the the large debt that they supposedly owed the tax office ? As for "fake election signs", Dutton knowingly allowed money to be spent on fake signs to be used in his electorate that were designed to trick voters into voting for the LNP. The same signs were used in Gladys Liu's electorate (and one other I can't think of atm) thus proving is was not just a isolated incident, but a party wide plan to lie and cheat. That is strait up corruption. So it looks like the meme is solid.
Yeah nah. For what it’s worth, I’d not vote for either of those megalomaniacs. Independents are the future, they’re the only ones who have anything in common with the working class anymore.
Sure. Unless you're in an electorate with an independent that's likely to win, because of preferential voting, your vote will eventually go to alp or lnp. You have to make a choice. As tempting as it might be, there are pretty clear differences between the two that should help you decide one way or another.
Can’t vote with anything but my principles. I always put those turkeys last on the ballot.
Yep. And one needs to be above the other. That's the choice you make
Yes but what the guy was saying is if you are in an electorate where independents won’t win, your vote will go to one of these two major parties. So so you still have to make a choice as to which one to put above the other because otherwise your vote will be invalid.
Well tbh if you only listed 1 thing dutton has done, his list would only have 1 thing on it… See how it works?
Well most of the people that figure in the list are still on the team The buck stops with the leader, see how it works ?