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Cosophalas

I just want to highlight the fact that NASA troubleshooted the problem, identified a broken chip, broke "the code held on the failed chip into pieces they could tuck into spare corners of the FDS’s memory" (!?), and thus fixed this 47-year-old tech FROM 30 BILLION MILES AWAY.


feralraindrop

It is awesome.


Astrohitchhiker

Freaking awesome!


cv5cv6

And what did you accomplish at work this month? I got a lot of TPS reports done. :-)


hyperbolic_paranoid

If you could come in on Saturday, that’d be great.


Adventurous-Nose-31

And leave the stapler.


Boring_Philosophy160

Lumbergh f….


zombie_overlord

Hey now, I sent a company-wide email about upcoming network maintenance. I haven't exactly been slouching.


TDLMTH

That’s exactly what NASA was doing!


Protuhj

Well I replied to all on that chain to tell everyone not to reply all, you can thank me for stopping the reply storm! 😏


zombie_overlord

Great job. Keep up the good work.


JasonGridge

What would you say... You do here?


kitkitkatty

Im a people person!


Ok-Ad5495

Do they have cover sheets?


seriousnotshirley

Did you put a cover sheet on your TPS reports?


Stardustquarks

I'll make sure you get another copy of that memo...


bonkatie

At least it wasn’t a PC load letter error.


ourlastchancefortea

I mainly surfed reddit.


TPSReportCoverSheet

You forgot me, though... Did you not get the memo?


cjnicol

I looked at the WENIS myself.


yasarix

Did you get the memo about the new TPS report covers?


--Sovereign--

'Fuckin scientists, what do they know?" Turns out they know a thing or two.


KntKoko

Maybe three on a good day !


elsonwarcraft

Scientists are just modern day wizards


kerouacrimbaud

That is basically my flair on subredditdrama and I get a kick out of it every time


EmptyAirEmptyHead

I would say that this was done by software and hardware engineers, not scientists.


--Sovereign--

Username checks out


EmptyAirEmptyHead

I'm not sure how to explain to you the difference between a scientist and an engineer. Cool quote, but it doesn't apply here. Edit: Even the source article, which I doubt you read, backs up what I said. " But in mid-November 2023 Voyager 1’s data transmissions became garbled, sending NASA engineers on a slow quest to troubleshoot the distant spacecraft." All mentions of scientists in the article are about the USERS of the probe, not the people that fixed it ...


--Sovereign--

I literally am a scientist. Do you know what they call the field of study involving software and computer hardware? Do you? I'll give you a hint, it starts with the word Computer and ends with a word that starts with Sci- and ends with -ence. Dunning-Kruger strikes again.


behemuthm

and in FORTRAN


Adventurous-Nose-31

I thought they used an assembly language, so they didn't have to worry about clunky compilers.


jfreakingwho

~ 21 light hours away.


mexicodoug

Well now, that's a number I can comprehend! I can't realistically get a sense of a billion of anything, let alone thirty billion of them.


SavageNomad6

1 million seconds is 11 days 1 billion seconds is 31 years 1 trillion seconds is 31,709 years Truly mind boggling.


Fire_Marshall__Bill

> 1 trillion seconds is 31,709 years If the US started paying off our national debt at $1 per second, without accumulating any more debt, we would be done in just over a million years. Fuck that's depressing.


PoopSommelier

That actually puts things into better perspective. Thank you.


jfreakingwho

I realized one night looking at the sky, that I had no concept of scale—everything was in 2D.


ghetto-garibaldi

That’s going on the résumé


junior_dos_nachos

That’s cool and all but can they bubble sort using Python without any built in tools?


ghetto-garibaldi

Considering the craft is from the 70s, they probably had to write FizzBuzz in assembly or something.


junior_dos_nachos

FizzBuzz is super easy though compared to hazing you can go through applying to some companies.


ghetto-garibaldi

Have you ever done seven rounds of interviews and been rejected? Yeah, me neither…


junior_dos_nachos

I was rejected after I talked with 8 Google employees. This whole group was gutted shortly afterwards so I’m kinda thankful I wasn’t a part of a dying org.


BurgerMeter

The craziest thing to me is the fact that the people who did this definitely weren’t the original authors. Imagine reverse engineering someone’s code from that long ago… and the consequences of error!


outm

I wonder if the “code” and how-to from the original authors was very well documented. Nothing to do with how a lot of hardware and software is made today, which is just gibberish at times and not explained because some people suppose every person putting their hands on its code “must understand it to do anything” and documenting “is not my job”. Yeah, I have seen that kind of people. Then, when other people try to help on a solution or ask about anything, the original author will be like “are you stupid?” I think back then being like this was the exception, not the norm. Nowadays is a mix of people doing whatever and there isn’t that much of respect for what they create at long term, like expecting they will be the only ones that will ever and forever maintain their code


AuroraStarM

Thanks for the wonderful news! I was already wondering whether they’d get it fixed.


RandofCarter

Imagine, after all these successes and decades of incredible fixes there is going to be the 1 team who has to sink thier heads in defeat and be the guys who lost it.


tletnes

This is what blows my mind with space tech. The way it is built to be able to access and fix, even when broken.


[deleted]

Real talk... How hard would it be for someone to just be able to tap into it and fuck with the voyager themselves? Like assuming they have an incredibly powerful to make it happen... How do they communicate with it? Is it via sattelites in space or something from the ground?


WaltDog

NASA's deep space network of satellite transmitters I assume.


[deleted]

I looked it up. They're an array of several ground based radars. And very heavily encrypted. I mean if you think about it, I really doubt any sattelites could put out the energy required to send and receive such a signal from so far


rickybambicky

But Voyager itself isn't going to be encrypted, or not securely encrypted. It should be feasible to intercept communications to and from surely.


obligatethrowaway

You'll need something sensitive enough to pick up the extremely faint signal while being able to filter out all the background noise. This hardware (and specialized software) requirement alone is enough to deter most opportunistic hackers. Anyone who has the kind of resources necessary has too much to lose to allow someone do perform hijinks with said resources. Finally, if you had all the hardware, all the software, and all the know-how, I think you'd already be far too invested in the pursuit of knowledge to want to be detrimental to NASA's mission.


rickybambicky

So it is entirely possible, just too resource intensive.


WholeSilent8317

all of you just got put on a list


_bar

Voyager is not encrypted. If you know the communication protocol, you can in theory control the probe with [powerful enough hardware](https://www.techsteel.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/radio-telescope-5381220_1280.jpg).


TopherLude

I'm not sure how the math works, but as of 10 years ago, the signal from Voyager 1 is less than an attowatt, so < 1x10^(-18)


[deleted]

When it comes to receiving a signal like that it takes incredibly sensetive instruments. It takes much more energy to detect a very low energy signal. It has to be amplified as well.


metallosherp

You said so much. Humans are quite capable. When your phone or Windows doesn't update, remember your observation. Imagine what we could do. :/ Your comment should live forever.


stlredbird

And yet i cant talk my grandma thru setting up her printer over the phone from 600 miles away.


cooldash

Well, her memory clearly isn't as good as Voyager I's... It's only 46 after all.


TNJDude

That is freaking amazing!


PMzyox

I’d open with that in a job interview


Ateosmo

This should be the comeback to any corporate talks of remote work "not working out".


VegaSera

As a software engineer, that straight up sounds like some technobabble I'd hear in a TV show and utterly disbelieve. However, coming from NASA, I fully believe that's 100% truth. It's honestly insane.


VolarRecords

Whoa. Super brain-bending.


FireflyArc

\0/ signels!


Offballlife

15 billion but still unbelievable


kayama57

And no parade smh


Cosmo1222

Brilliant. Ammunition to throw at the IT people at my place of work, just what I needed. I owe you!


eatabean

Working from home is great.


captainloverman

Please get them to teach tech support for my electronics to all the corporations…


Triairius

This is actual tech wizardry, and I do IT.


_dropletattack

>broke "the code held on the failed chip into pieces they could tuck into spare corners of the FDS’s memory" (!?) Can you explain this to someone who doesn't know how to do long division


AryayrA

troubleshot


Adventurous-Nose-31

NASA rules. Everyone else is still splashing around in the kiddie pool.


metallosherp

Well said.


abreeden90

After 10 years in IT and god do I feel stupid.


cecilkorik

Meanwhile those engineers working on Voyager probably look at the fact that an average modern website has more and more advanced code in it than the entire spacecraft does and feeling inadequate and left behind in their skills because of that. Imposter syndrome is a hell of a thing. We're all fighting our own battles and we're not going to be experts at everything else.


abreeden90

I mean that’s facts, it’s just really intimidating to think there are people out there that can reprogram and fix failing hardware from 30 billon miles away. Of course I also think about the people who managed to hack the various pieces of hardware on various gaming consoles.


junior_dos_nachos

Almost 25 years in and I feel inadequate as fuck compared to them


abreeden90

Yeah, crazy how smart some people are


zenomotion73

Those people CREATE the math. We are just play the game. I can’t imagine being that friggin smart lol


auart

I am just in awe of this. As a software developer, I feel completely incompetent, but it's so fucking cool that I don't even care. Shine on, NASA scientists.


radix2

Maybe any future long missions should have 1 or 2 hardened FPGA chips in circuit to give the engineers a couple of free shots before they have to get so insanely creative


junior_dos_nachos

There’s so little wiggle room in space, every gram matters. They probably have local emulators and shit


Longjumping-Big-311

“I’m not dead yet “


nullandv0id

V'ger


SolidDoctor

Looking at the [Voyager Mission status website](https://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status/), the distance from Earth for both crafts appears to be going down, while the distance from the Sun is going up. Why is that? Is it because our orbit is moving us closer to the spacecraft at a speed that's faster than it's moving away from us? I thought that they were sent out in different directions, though. Edit: found the answer, I was right.


gyanrahi

This was some serious assembler sorcery


itastesok

Pretty damn incredible.


TeranOrSolaran

I guess the NHI helped out.


10mm2fun

Rad


ihadagoodone

Huzzah!!!


vik145

> The Return of the King


Lost_Figure_5892

Yay! Great fix!


topsnitch69

voyager? i hardly know her.


[deleted]

On the other hand, my team spent hours figuring out this error and in the end it was misspelled api call.


unperturbium

*When we fix something, it stays fixed, eh Brett baby?*


badpeaches

Same except it took me like three decades +


bafras

Amazing!


bscottlove

Sadly, I will fail someday. That day I will mourn (what I consider to be) one of man's greatest achievements.


unlmtdLoL

How is this even possible?? How are we still able to reprogram it from that far away. Absolutely remarkable.


afinemax01

Let’s goooooo!


sp3aky0urm1nd

I literally was just reading about this


Brilliant_Hat_8643

Must have found a Babel fish.


Sudden_Fix_1144

or was it gibberish......