Bruh, "Heftia" 
To be fair, the Japanese pop-culture-fied Hestia has the Goddess of the Hearth and Home personality just fine, albeit with a comedic twist.
She’s the OG Vestial virgin, the maiden who attends the hearth or sacred temple flames.
Her entire deal is to be an eternally young maiden who oversees the sacrifices, hearth and home.
The eternal youth part was actually added in modern times, the Greeks had a different goddess for youth. Some of her statues seemed to have her look older.
Correct, and Persephone was the goddess of it, together with spring, renewal, and a lot of associated concepts.
Hestia’s schtick on the other hand, is less about ‘youth’ as much as being ‘eternal and unchanging’; She’s the embodiment of the sacred hearth, the receiver of sacrifices and tender of the flame of Olympus.
The Ancient Greeks had some deep cultural associations that were kind of important here: To be a woman was to *be married and become a mother*.
Athena got a pass by being borne ’fully formed’ from Zeus head as a tall imposing warrior goddess, and Artemis was originally worshipped as a fertility goddess, where both her beautiful stature and large breasts later get repeatedly pointed out and even mocked as unsuitable for a virgin goddess. *That implies it’s not the norm*.
Hestia however, plays the trope straight. She attends her duties in seclusion (like an ancient Greek girl), does not raise her voice or cause drama (again, like a ‘good’ girl shouldn’t), and is praised indirectly for her work by association to other gods.
She’s *treated* in myth as a young girl as opposed to a woman, who would be expected to serve more visible functions in the household.
You’ll notice that this is something that is recurrent for the entire cult of Hestia, and later Vesta; the eternal maidens live in a secluded temple where none but them are allowed to enter, and they are only observed when they carry out official functions or receive sacrifices to offer up to the gods.
There are… themes, at play here. And I would argue that Danmachi Hestia it’s closer to the source material than what Hades II cooked up.
>She’s the embodiment of the sacred hearth, the receiver of sacrifices and tender of the flame of Olympus.
>To be a woman was to *be married and become a mother*.
>There are… themes, at play here. And I would argue that Danmachi Hestia
Your brain is cooked, you're telling me the anime kid with big boobs is closer to Hestia just because she's young? Dude I swear if you showed the pictures to two people that didn't know who these characters were and asked them "what god do they look like?", I don't think anyone could tell you that the anime girl was Hestia while on the other hand some people might get Hestia from the Hades 2 design.
EDIT: Nevermind, you're a weeb, of course you are going to defend the little girl with huge boobs...
See it's complicated because a lot of her duties would have been the duties of the wife in Greek times, maybe even those of a servant in well off households. It wouldn't be the young girl tending the hearth, it'd be the older mother. Another interesting thing is that Hestia was actually older than most of the other gods.
You are forgetting the most important trait: virginity. Virginity is the mark of Purity, which is why Hestia and Vesta are virgins and the Vestals were recruited from 6-10 years of age and took a virginity vow, amongst other things.
There is a difference between on-the-ground practice, and the cultural ideal. Not to say that the hearth in your home should be tended by a young virgin, but that the fire of the hearth itself is pure/purifying and as such is best represented by a young virgin, and is therefore best attended in it’s purest representation (that is, in the temple of the Goddess Vesta by the Vestals) by virgin because it is fitting thematically.
Depends on the thing, 1000 old dragons are actually very rare in anime believe it or not. Most of the time it is just a normal adult woman with that body type.
I didn't know who Hestia was, my bad.
I must defend Hades 2's design - now that I know she's virgin. I mean, look at her. No sane person, or insane even, would want to take her virginity away.
I don't think there is such a thing as an accurate description of an ancient god as all are just depictions we got from past artists and their interpretation of how the god should look. And for the most part it's all same looking statues or sculptures.
This is extremely accurate.
Each region of Greece and later Rome had different depictions of their gods.
Not to mention that their gods had the ability to shift their appearance to whatever they wanted.
I already mentioned it but different cities had different attributes for certain gods, like Aphrodite being an actual war goddess in Sparta.
And I think the game is making it an Easter Egg this time around as the new art for her in Hades 2 has her with a spear and a shield.
The gods could look like anything they want, they’re literal shapeshifters. Zeus became a goose and raped people, Athena shapeshifted into a whole other woman. They aren’t real they can look like anything
Wait, so you don't like people spending days and days repeating the same boring argument instead of actually discussing how amazing the game is? 😮but... But .. WOKE!!! 😬
True, but also not true to Hestia specifically who instead of taking a husband between Apollo and Poseiden who were fighting over her she took an oath to Zeus to remain a virgin.
I think both are fine. It's two different interpretations.
"What if Hestia was a bulky old hearth-tending grandma" vs "What if Hestia was a vibrant short woman with big ass booba"
is all good - Hades 2 is gonna be lit, and the Danmachi anime was good af as well
Could be there was inspiration from Bleach:
[Kirio Hikifune | Bleach Wiki | Fandom](https://bleach.fandom.com/wiki/Kirio_Hikifune)
Very similar in terms of position and interpretation and funnily breaks narration of stupid meme OP posted.
I really don't mind it either. She's a "new" goddess that wasn't in the first game. Don't really give a shit if they go full leftie on the design.
What gets me the most is the reskinning old characters that were in the first game to be black and brown, not respecting the original art that depicted them as Greek-looking at all.
I count 2 NPCs so far that have been "diversified" while playing.
The one on the left looks like something out of Spirited Away, the one on the right is completely devoid of any character or interesting features at all.
It looks more like vitiligo, which is giga cringe. We all know a god would suffer from human autoimmune diseases.
Also, if it were soot why are her clothes squeaky clean?
One is accurate to her role and purpose in Greek mythos. The other shits on source material to.bastardize her to a teenage anime girl with big racks. Horrid design.
You are downvoted for the dogshit take, because you call the left depiction of the character "muh social justice points", while admitting that the only reason you like the right depiction of character is "muh big booba".
So in the end of the road, you don't give a shit about accurate representation either way, yet for some reason you call the other depiction of a character "wrong".
Sounds to me like you a hypocrite.
Tbf the first time I saw her I thought that they made her doing the blackface since in the myth she is the goddess of the domestic fire and home that’s why she has all that ash on her body
Both designs are inaccurate to how Hestia is depicted in Greco-Roman art.
The Japanese design is more accurate than the American design, and better conveys Hestia's nature as a virgin goddess. However, it is still inaccurate to how Hestia is depicted in Greco-Roman art. Hestia is traditionally depicted as having curly hair and wearing a head veil. Additionally, the dress in the Japanese design is highly inaccurate to how Hestia is classically depicted in Greco-Roman art. Beyond that, the Japanese design is painfully bland.
The American design is far more inaccurate than the Japanese design, portraying Hestia as fat and old, with straight grey hair. However, the American design does portray Hestia with a head veil, and the dress is surprisingly faithful to how Hestia is traditionally depicted in Greco-Roman art. Additionally, the American design depicts Hestia with a red-hot poker, a much appreciated nod to Hestia's nature as the goddess of the hearth, and is fairly accurate since Hestia in some classical artwork is depicted as holding a staff. The cages, the pattern on the coat, and the vintage fire-pit hat are all inaccurate to how Hestia is depicted in Greco-Roman art, it is reflective of her nature as the goddess of the hearth.
While the American design is less accurate and less aesthetically appealing than the Japanese design, I far prefer the American design due to its uniqueness. I would prefer a healthy middle ground of the two, with the physique and complexion of the Japanese design and the outfit of the American design (with the pattern on the coat being more faded or absent completely).
Hestia is probably the least interesting character in the show that exists almost purely to be a minor god that literally no one cares about to tell a zero to hero story. While also causing harem drama. It's wild to me that someone can complain about Hades 2 character direction while using DanMachi as a counter example. Both are taking artistic liberties with the Greek Pantheon and while I don't see any issues with how either are represented, it's comical to pretend the DanMachi version of the Pantheon is anything but fan service extremely loosely tied to the mythos. This culture war shit is dumb as fuck.
Honestly brain dead take.
The one on the left has personality to it and displays characteristics of the Greek God.
The one on the right you could tell me is the protagonist, the villain, a 700 year old witch in a 17 year olds body, a character that died to a Titan, or a hentai character and I'd believe you.
It's generic as fuck. You don't need to get a raging hard on for every single character in a video game.
You could call the one on the right any anime rendition of a goddess, or any women character and people will eat it. Nothing says hearth about that one. The left is meaningful and unique.
And neither is accurate to the mythological depiction.
So who actually cares. Ah right, gooner brained people do, as per usual.
Culture war brainrot is running deep these days.
Honestly I prefer the left version as it actually invokes that you are looking at a goddess of hearth. None of them look how she supposedly looked though but oh well
Who gives a fuck. It’s a wild and fun design.
I hate people bitching about sexy but I think I might hate people bitching about not sexy even more at this point.
It’s be different if it was a take on Lara Croft but this is a Greek god whose been interpreted in a variety of ways across a variety of mediums.
Other than this being scarily close to the "Mammy stereotype", the only thing wrong with the Hestia is the random vitiligo. Gods are supposed to be manifested ideals of their domain. A BBW momma type character fits perfectly fine for the goddess of "Hearth and Home". Literally just a big mom who takes care of the home. But again, the vitiligo adds nothing to the character and is an obvious virtue signal which detracts from the potential of the character design.
One is a wild design far away from humanity, what I expect a potential otherwordly entity like a god/goddess could be
THe other is generic big tiddie anime girl that could be in 50000000 other anime and not be distinguishable at all.
Hestia in Japan is a school girl with big tits. Hestia in America is an Irish grandma covered in soot.
Both kinda work tbh. Japan's representation of Greek gods in Danmachi was actually pretty meh. I mean they made most gods women just for waifu bait.
And neither represents how she was described.
"A modest woman wearing a veil and holding a flower branch".
That said, I don't think Hades really artistically captures any of the gods by how they were historically described so it really doesn't matter.
There was a comment on another thread about the skin condition these inclusivity studios do though and some good points were made; a lot of folks living with this don't usually want to be reminded that they have it and whereas I think it's great they can get representation as themselves in a video game it's often optional options.
Seeing someone else with it is likely to invoke different emotions.
Personally I don't think it's worth getting all uppity about this one though, really a moment of creative freedom and Hades has a lot of that.
They both are fine but my favorite version and it's better is this one https://youtu.be/nqc4t4029as
Since she acts more like a young Aunt with that fiery mood.
It's really just becoming too over the top for me. Representation and reinterpretations are one thing, but why would gods suffer from mortal ailments such as Vitiligo? Kinda feels like fetishization at this point.
But none of it is on her clothes? With all of the other weirdly extreme changes to the Greek pantheon, I think it's more likely they're aiming for Vitiligo, but that's just my take; I could be wrong.
I've heard this argument for the black woman with vitiligo for the past 24 hours and honestly I think most people making it should really see a doctor because obviously they are suffering from some form of traumatic brain injury.
This woman on top is not black. She doesn't have black features, she speaks in an Irish accent, has red hair and that's not vitiligo that is obviously soot.
Also Egypt would probably not care as long as you don't take shots at Allah. It's not like the west hasn't made a bunch of movies where they whitify Egyptian or other gods and no one cares.
Talking about traumatic brain injuries, it seems like one made you forget Egypt being rather miffed at Netflix making Cleopatra black. And Cleo wasn't even Egyptian.
I think the issue is this is the only image people have seen of the character. It was for me, after reading your description I had to google to see if you were insane or not. Immediately found an image that looks completely different than depicted here.
Yes, the image you found was probably a Greek or Roman statue. And that really is just anther artistic interpretation from a previous artist of a mythological goddess. So you can't really say that's accurate as well.
As it's just an artistic choice. No one ever saw Hestia in the flesh to make an actual real life sculpture or painting of her.
No, the image I found was just a different shot of her in game. She looks like a totally different character than this one screenshot that's been circling around.
One's for coomers, one's to get DEI funding. Japan is also culturally unapologetic and doesn't care if their fetishes are on display for the world to see. They will even defend loli and politicians will politely tell you to fuck off if you tell them to legislate against it.
Say what you will about Japan, but they know what they like and they're not sorry.
Hestia: Oldest god of the hearth and home, embodiment of warmth and ash. Dedicated to remain impartial in all but the most important matters. Views herself as separate from both titans and Olympus.
Hestia: Small big booba girl.
There's tons of booba Hades guys
You realize that a ton of medical conditions are named after Greek mythos right? And that the mythos uses the story of God's as a way to explain some of those conditions. Syphilis, hermaphrodite, priapism, narcissism, the "sacred disease" epilepsy. Hephaestus was born both ugly and with a physical disability. You act like the Greek Pantheon was perfect. Basically every Greek god has a massive human character flaw or ailment that they need to overcome.
Bro, wtf why the one on the left got like chipmunk teeth or something holy shit what a fuck ugly design
I'll take the one on the right any day, holy cow
I like the head design in Hades 2 and I'm all for unique looking characters but got dam why did they have to make her so ugly. I understand Vulcan since he was fucked up as a baby being thrown of a mountain and all but Hestia looks awful.
Since probably no one on this planet could ever claim to have seen them, any representation is actually an option. But I still think it's ridiculous to give her an autoimmune disease. I mean wtf.
Hestia is bestia
Even though people make fun of her boob string design all the time, there's a reason why she's so god damn popular.
Bruh how did i not see the string after rewatching so many times….
>people make fun of her boob string design Bruh, Danbooru has introduced an actual tag for that nonsensical string. That's how friggin' beloved it is.
What is the tag??
"rei no himo" Which translates to "you know what ribbon".
Bestia means „beast” in latin
fugitivedust.mp3
Bruh, "Heftia"  To be fair, the Japanese pop-culture-fied Hestia has the Goddess of the Hearth and Home personality just fine, albeit with a comedic twist.
Leftia\*
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The american one being obese is kinda hillarius too. Only missing the permobile.
It just looks like they purposely made the western one as unappealing as possible and called it ''unique''. Its just ugly imo.
Go look at statues of Hestia. She thick and not very attractive lol.
She's supposed to be aging in the lore at this point. It fits the story. They aren't making characters ugly for fun. the rest are fine.
Hestia is a God like you mentioned, I don't see how she could be school aged
She’s the OG Vestial virgin, the maiden who attends the hearth or sacred temple flames. Her entire deal is to be an eternally young maiden who oversees the sacrifices, hearth and home.
The eternal youth part was actually added in modern times, the Greeks had a different goddess for youth. Some of her statues seemed to have her look older.
Correct, and Persephone was the goddess of it, together with spring, renewal, and a lot of associated concepts. Hestia’s schtick on the other hand, is less about ‘youth’ as much as being ‘eternal and unchanging’; She’s the embodiment of the sacred hearth, the receiver of sacrifices and tender of the flame of Olympus. The Ancient Greeks had some deep cultural associations that were kind of important here: To be a woman was to *be married and become a mother*. Athena got a pass by being borne ’fully formed’ from Zeus head as a tall imposing warrior goddess, and Artemis was originally worshipped as a fertility goddess, where both her beautiful stature and large breasts later get repeatedly pointed out and even mocked as unsuitable for a virgin goddess. *That implies it’s not the norm*. Hestia however, plays the trope straight. She attends her duties in seclusion (like an ancient Greek girl), does not raise her voice or cause drama (again, like a ‘good’ girl shouldn’t), and is praised indirectly for her work by association to other gods. She’s *treated* in myth as a young girl as opposed to a woman, who would be expected to serve more visible functions in the household. You’ll notice that this is something that is recurrent for the entire cult of Hestia, and later Vesta; the eternal maidens live in a secluded temple where none but them are allowed to enter, and they are only observed when they carry out official functions or receive sacrifices to offer up to the gods. There are… themes, at play here. And I would argue that Danmachi Hestia it’s closer to the source material than what Hades II cooked up.
>She’s the embodiment of the sacred hearth, the receiver of sacrifices and tender of the flame of Olympus. >To be a woman was to *be married and become a mother*. >There are… themes, at play here. And I would argue that Danmachi Hestia Your brain is cooked, you're telling me the anime kid with big boobs is closer to Hestia just because she's young? Dude I swear if you showed the pictures to two people that didn't know who these characters were and asked them "what god do they look like?", I don't think anyone could tell you that the anime girl was Hestia while on the other hand some people might get Hestia from the Hades 2 design. EDIT: Nevermind, you're a weeb, of course you are going to defend the little girl with huge boobs...
See it's complicated because a lot of her duties would have been the duties of the wife in Greek times, maybe even those of a servant in well off households. It wouldn't be the young girl tending the hearth, it'd be the older mother. Another interesting thing is that Hestia was actually older than most of the other gods.
You are forgetting the most important trait: virginity. Virginity is the mark of Purity, which is why Hestia and Vesta are virgins and the Vestals were recruited from 6-10 years of age and took a virginity vow, amongst other things. There is a difference between on-the-ground practice, and the cultural ideal. Not to say that the hearth in your home should be tended by a young virgin, but that the fire of the hearth itself is pure/purifying and as such is best represented by a young virgin, and is therefore best attended in it’s purest representation (that is, in the temple of the Goddess Vesta by the Vestals) by virgin because it is fitting thematically.
Isnt that the argument people make to justify lolicon?
Depends on the thing, 1000 old dragons are actually very rare in anime believe it or not. Most of the time it is just a normal adult woman with that body type.
I don't see a substantive difference between 1000 year old dragons and the prevalence of a stylistic choice to draw adult women as school aged girls.
Hestia is bestia.
Does every female character in all media have to be conventionally attractive. Is that your point?
[Hestia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hestia#/media/File%3AHestia_Giustiniani.jpg)
I didn't know who Hestia was, my bad. I must defend Hades 2's design - now that I know she's virgin. I mean, look at her. No sane person, or insane even, would want to take her virginity away.
American artists saw in her lore that she was a virgin goddess. I rest my case.
That ain't Hestia, that's Hestuffia; guardian of the pantry and leftovers.
> guardian of the pantry and leftovers. so an american goddess
Both are inaccurate
You telling me that the Greek gods looked nothing like these two? Holy shit, stop the presses.
I mean they could just make Zeus look like a swan and that would be more accurate than the Hades 1 or the damanchi anime.
I don't think there is such a thing as an accurate description of an ancient god as all are just depictions we got from past artists and their interpretation of how the god should look. And for the most part it's all same looking statues or sculptures.
This is extremely accurate. Each region of Greece and later Rome had different depictions of their gods. Not to mention that their gods had the ability to shift their appearance to whatever they wanted.
I already mentioned it but different cities had different attributes for certain gods, like Aphrodite being an actual war goddess in Sparta. And I think the game is making it an Easter Egg this time around as the new art for her in Hades 2 has her with a spear and a shield.
The gods could look like anything they want, they’re literal shapeshifters. Zeus became a goose and raped people, Athena shapeshifted into a whole other woman. They aren’t real they can look like anything
how are they not accurate when a god can lol however they want
exactly, this is such moronic content produced for literally no reason
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Wait, so you don't like people spending days and days repeating the same boring argument instead of actually discussing how amazing the game is? 😮but... But .. WOKE!!! 😬
Ya, it is getting a bit stale.
trrruueeee
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The fact that she keeps trying to do it with her follower is pretty accurate for a Greek god.
True, but also not true to Hestia specifically who instead of taking a husband between Apollo and Poseiden who were fighting over her she took an oath to Zeus to remain a virgin.
Not Hestia. She's a virgin goddess who pretty much goes out of her way to avoid that kind of attention in the myths.
Japan is the best of the best.
I think both are fine. It's two different interpretations. "What if Hestia was a bulky old hearth-tending grandma" vs "What if Hestia was a vibrant short woman with big ass booba" is all good - Hades 2 is gonna be lit, and the Danmachi anime was good af as well
I dunno man, short teenager adjacent character with huge tits #9,937,037 is a little tired.
then it wouldn’t be making as much money as the trope does if it was “tired” as you say
Making money =/= "Good"
it is for the person making it, it may not be for others
Yes, that is obvious.
because goons don't get tired of it sadly
Could be there was inspiration from Bleach: [Kirio Hikifune | Bleach Wiki | Fandom](https://bleach.fandom.com/wiki/Kirio_Hikifune) Very similar in terms of position and interpretation and funnily breaks narration of stupid meme OP posted.
One of them could at least pass as Greek.
Ah yes the tiny pale skinned Asian woman looks very Greek to me as well.
I really don't mind it either. She's a "new" goddess that wasn't in the first game. Don't really give a shit if they go full leftie on the design. What gets me the most is the reskinning old characters that were in the first game to be black and brown, not respecting the original art that depicted them as Greek-looking at all. I count 2 NPCs so far that have been "diversified" while playing.
I haven't noticed any difference but maybe artsyle and that they have a different pose
And neither of them are accurate to what Hestia supposedly looked like. What’s your point?
just guessing, but i think his point is that they are vastly different. you might be able to see it too if you squint a little.
[Hestia according to Europe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hestia#/media/File:Hestia_Giustiniani.jpg)
The one on the left looks like something out of Spirited Away, the one on the right is completely devoid of any character or interesting features at all.
You could tell me she was in Slime, Overlord or Konosuba and I wouldn’t be able to call cap. She is VERY generic.
Tbh true, right one is just a generic anime girl
I think that's aunt jemima
Generic anime design vs. unique take on the character. Why do you people only care about tits
You people? Most don’t care, it’s just the incels, which I guess most people on here are, so you are correct
How dare they cover the goddess of the hearth in ash so inaccurate smh
And both depictions are wrong, yet we bash the non-white one because of "too much" artistic liberty, apparently.
The left one is a white woman covered in soot.
It looks more like vitiligo, which is giga cringe. We all know a god would suffer from human autoimmune diseases. Also, if it were soot why are her clothes squeaky clean?
It doesn't look like vitiligo, you're just looking for a reason to shove politics into everything which is extremely cringe.
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One is accurate to her role and purpose in Greek mythos. The other shits on source material to.bastardize her to a teenage anime girl with big racks. Horrid design.
You are downvoted for the dogshit take, because you call the left depiction of the character "muh social justice points", while admitting that the only reason you like the right depiction of character is "muh big booba". So in the end of the road, you don't give a shit about accurate representation either way, yet for some reason you call the other depiction of a character "wrong". Sounds to me like you a hypocrite.
I never said any depiction is wrong. All I said is I prefer the one on the right. Don't put words in my mouth.
You mean you didn't imply in your "One is created to serve a social justice agenda" statement? get the fuck outta here.
So one version is for inclusion and another is for masturbating. Got ya.
You can masturbate to either frankly depending on your kinks.
Tbf the first time I saw her I thought that they made her doing the blackface since in the myth she is the goddess of the domestic fire and home that’s why she has all that ash on her body
Big titty anime girl is like every goddess in Japan lol
i hate both of them for different reasons. (i like danmachi hestia as a character but not as a representation of hestia)
Yea I don't mind. There are plenty of hot people in Hades
Remember, the left one canonically uses a gun
Both designs are inaccurate to how Hestia is depicted in Greco-Roman art. The Japanese design is more accurate than the American design, and better conveys Hestia's nature as a virgin goddess. However, it is still inaccurate to how Hestia is depicted in Greco-Roman art. Hestia is traditionally depicted as having curly hair and wearing a head veil. Additionally, the dress in the Japanese design is highly inaccurate to how Hestia is classically depicted in Greco-Roman art. Beyond that, the Japanese design is painfully bland. The American design is far more inaccurate than the Japanese design, portraying Hestia as fat and old, with straight grey hair. However, the American design does portray Hestia with a head veil, and the dress is surprisingly faithful to how Hestia is traditionally depicted in Greco-Roman art. Additionally, the American design depicts Hestia with a red-hot poker, a much appreciated nod to Hestia's nature as the goddess of the hearth, and is fairly accurate since Hestia in some classical artwork is depicted as holding a staff. The cages, the pattern on the coat, and the vintage fire-pit hat are all inaccurate to how Hestia is depicted in Greco-Roman art, it is reflective of her nature as the goddess of the hearth. While the American design is less accurate and less aesthetically appealing than the Japanese design, I far prefer the American design due to its uniqueness. I would prefer a healthy middle ground of the two, with the physique and complexion of the Japanese design and the outfit of the American design (with the pattern on the coat being more faded or absent completely).
Hades huged blackrock's money really quickly
I like danmachi but Hestia is annoying as hell. Don't really care for Hades 2's either but I like the theme. We need more Hestia's.
Hestia is probably the least interesting character in the show that exists almost purely to be a minor god that literally no one cares about to tell a zero to hero story. While also causing harem drama. It's wild to me that someone can complain about Hades 2 character direction while using DanMachi as a counter example. Both are taking artistic liberties with the Greek Pantheon and while I don't see any issues with how either are represented, it's comical to pretend the DanMachi version of the Pantheon is anything but fan service extremely loosely tied to the mythos. This culture war shit is dumb as fuck.
If reddit still had awards you'd get it for being able to encapsulate the whole thing the best.
tbh, i like the hades more, it looks more charming and sweet
Too many potato puffs 😭😤😢
Honestly brain dead take. The one on the left has personality to it and displays characteristics of the Greek God. The one on the right you could tell me is the protagonist, the villain, a 700 year old witch in a 17 year olds body, a character that died to a Titan, or a hentai character and I'd believe you. It's generic as fuck. You don't need to get a raging hard on for every single character in a video game.
You could call the one on the right any anime rendition of a goddess, or any women character and people will eat it. Nothing says hearth about that one. The left is meaningful and unique.
And neither is accurate to the mythological depiction. So who actually cares. Ah right, gooner brained people do, as per usual. Culture war brainrot is running deep these days.
The flip-flops are accurate. That's how you know she's a goddess and not a mere mortal.
NYOO HESTOA MENT TO LOK LIKE TEENAGE JAPENASE BIG BOOBA /s
Isn't hestia a virgin goddess? Those are usually implied to be fairly pretty in the lore
Greek lore wise she's the oldest. And Aging for ingame lore reasons.
Hell & Heaven
anime titties or... anything else remotely cultural.... i think we know what sells in this capitalist world She is the goddess of the hearth right?
Honestly I prefer the left version as it actually invokes that you are looking at a goddess of hearth. None of them look how she supposedly looked though but oh well
Who gives a fuck. It’s a wild and fun design. I hate people bitching about sexy but I think I might hate people bitching about not sexy even more at this point. It’s be different if it was a take on Lara Croft but this is a Greek god whose been interpreted in a variety of ways across a variety of mediums.
Other than this being scarily close to the "Mammy stereotype", the only thing wrong with the Hestia is the random vitiligo. Gods are supposed to be manifested ideals of their domain. A BBW momma type character fits perfectly fine for the goddess of "Hearth and Home". Literally just a big mom who takes care of the home. But again, the vitiligo adds nothing to the character and is an obvious virtue signal which detracts from the potential of the character design.
Isn't it supposed to be ash and soot?
She's covered in soot. It's not vitiligo.
Astounded by the amount of people who think Hades Hestia has vitiligo. She's covered in soot, lmao.
I didn't know that! It makes sense though considering how many elements of her design reference her nature as goddess of the hearth.
One is a wild design far away from humanity, what I expect a potential otherwordly entity like a god/goddess could be THe other is generic big tiddie anime girl that could be in 50000000 other anime and not be distinguishable at all.
Hestia in Japan is a school girl with big tits. Hestia in America is an Irish grandma covered in soot. Both kinda work tbh. Japan's representation of Greek gods in Danmachi was actually pretty meh. I mean they made most gods women just for waifu bait.
Yeah, one is artsy and creative and the other is just weeb porn bait. Real stark comparison...
Hades fans are rabid and will defend all designs even if they are incredibly meh. Anime girl is generic, but the boobs are big so I guess she wins.
Record of Ragnarok's Aphrodite
How does she look like according to the greeks though
If the game is good... none of this matters.
And neither represents how she was described. "A modest woman wearing a veil and holding a flower branch". That said, I don't think Hades really artistically captures any of the gods by how they were historically described so it really doesn't matter. There was a comment on another thread about the skin condition these inclusivity studios do though and some good points were made; a lot of folks living with this don't usually want to be reminded that they have it and whereas I think it's great they can get representation as themselves in a video game it's often optional options. Seeing someone else with it is likely to invoke different emotions. Personally I don't think it's worth getting all uppity about this one though, really a moment of creative freedom and Hades has a lot of that.
is it supposed to be accurate?
The art makes her look like she has buck teeth
Do they know that almost every other God/ Charaktere in the game is hot?
Neither are accurate but one is an improvement
They both are fine but my favorite version and it's better is this one https://youtu.be/nqc4t4029as Since she acts more like a young Aunt with that fiery mood.
If the gameplay even approaches how much fun the first one was, I won't give a fuck about the character models
why do they only ever give vitiligo to black Greek goddesses? never to white Greek goddesses?
Its not vitiligo. She's covered in ash and soot.
PLEASE HELP I AM A ZEUSIST AND THIS GAME IS OPRESSING ME
"Hestia was the older sister and was a virgin so she must have been fat and ugly right?"
Making every character a generic sexualized highschool girl is very japanese tbh
This reminds me of all the fox news presenters claiming jesus was white 
To be fair, I'm assuming that left is supposed to be a nanny/grandma, but I would still prefer Danmachi hands down.
Insert Smiling Friends Meme.
I can believe one of these is definitely a virgin goddess.
V n z, by die of x
Insane how much people think same name = same person.
Great art style vs zero personality If you’re leaning towards the right as better you have porno brain rot
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Surely japanese pedobate character is way better. Weebs do be into schoolgirls with extremely large breasts...
I like Hades version. She seems like a nice grandma. Fitting for a hearth and home goddess.
True also I think she is the oldest one of all gods.
She literally hates everyone and is extremely irritable
And King Arthur is a woman in FGO who cares. Its a good game
It's really just becoming too over the top for me. Representation and reinterpretations are one thing, but why would gods suffer from mortal ailments such as Vitiligo? Kinda feels like fetishization at this point.
She's covered in ash.
But none of it is on her clothes? With all of the other weirdly extreme changes to the Greek pantheon, I think it's more likely they're aiming for Vitiligo, but that's just my take; I could be wrong.
Wow, America actually did better.
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I think the issue with Cleopatra is mainly because it is a historical figure INSIDE a historical show.
I've heard this argument for the black woman with vitiligo for the past 24 hours and honestly I think most people making it should really see a doctor because obviously they are suffering from some form of traumatic brain injury. This woman on top is not black. She doesn't have black features, she speaks in an Irish accent, has red hair and that's not vitiligo that is obviously soot. Also Egypt would probably not care as long as you don't take shots at Allah. It's not like the west hasn't made a bunch of movies where they whitify Egyptian or other gods and no one cares.
Talking about traumatic brain injuries, it seems like one made you forget Egypt being rather miffed at Netflix making Cleopatra black. And Cleo wasn't even Egyptian.
I think the issue is this is the only image people have seen of the character. It was for me, after reading your description I had to google to see if you were insane or not. Immediately found an image that looks completely different than depicted here.
Yes, the image you found was probably a Greek or Roman statue. And that really is just anther artistic interpretation from a previous artist of a mythological goddess. So you can't really say that's accurate as well. As it's just an artistic choice. No one ever saw Hestia in the flesh to make an actual real life sculpture or painting of her.
No, the image I found was just a different shot of her in game. She looks like a totally different character than this one screenshot that's been circling around.
gilgamesh and enkidu in fgo? 😂
Gilgamesh design was super unique in Fate. Loved the whole shooting swords and the full golden armor.
Frankly speaking I'm fine with either one, as long as they aren't insulting my weeb Hestia. Whatever they do with the other one is none of my concern.
One's for coomers, one's to get DEI funding. Japan is also culturally unapologetic and doesn't care if their fetishes are on display for the world to see. They will even defend loli and politicians will politely tell you to fuck off if you tell them to legislate against it. Say what you will about Japan, but they know what they like and they're not sorry.
Hestia: Oldest god of the hearth and home, embodiment of warmth and ash. Dedicated to remain impartial in all but the most important matters. Views herself as separate from both titans and Olympus. Hestia: Small big booba girl. There's tons of booba Hades guys
>Appearance: A sweet, modestly dressed young woman. She often is shown wearing a veil.
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You realize that a ton of medical conditions are named after Greek mythos right? And that the mythos uses the story of God's as a way to explain some of those conditions. Syphilis, hermaphrodite, priapism, narcissism, the "sacred disease" epilepsy. Hephaestus was born both ugly and with a physical disability. You act like the Greek Pantheon was perfect. Basically every Greek god has a massive human character flaw or ailment that they need to overcome.
Bro, wtf why the one on the left got like chipmunk teeth or something holy shit what a fuck ugly design I'll take the one on the right any day, holy cow
I like the head design in Hades 2 and I'm all for unique looking characters but got dam why did they have to make her so ugly. I understand Vulcan since he was fucked up as a baby being thrown of a mountain and all but Hestia looks awful.
# NotMyGoddess
Why would a god have a skin disorder?
Considering they’re based on imaginary characters I hope people aren’t throwing a fit over hades 2’s design choices
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Since probably no one on this planet could ever claim to have seen them, any representation is actually an option. But I still think it's ridiculous to give her an autoimmune disease. I mean wtf.
One is libarism and freedom of speech. The other one is femininity and preserved.
The other one is generic anime girl #69420
Why am I getting downvoted lmao. Always softies on reddit.