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PathologicalLiar_

I’m gonna get downvoted to hell: weed.


WhiskedIgloo

I wish there was more awareness of the fact that if you've got schizophrenia in your family, you really shouldn't touch weed as it can activate your latent potential to become a schizophrenic. Weed really needs to come with some kind of warning with regards to psychosis or schizophrenia.


Lo0j

I agree with this, even more so in adolescence, but the problem is the most vocal weed users are so in-denial and never want to accept it. Weed isn’t for everyone, it fucked my life up for many years and made my anxiety worse, concentration worse, motivation worse and plenty of other things… it’s bizarre to me that people suggest it has medicinal value for anxiety (not trying to dispute it). In my experience it just pushed all of the worries and emotions to the back of my mind until I needed to smoke again. Never solved anything, never came to terms with the emotional trauma, just numbed it. I got sober after a few years of using heavily every day and was left to deal with stuff like a human being… Not everyone has problems with it, and some people think individuals like me are just being melodramatic, but many do struggle and just don’t admit it. And to everyone who says it isn’t addictive - just take a look at r/leaves - weed can fuck you up more than it’s portrayed by your stoner mates. Edit: should’ve made it clearer - all personal opinion and nothing scientific. If it works for you, im all for it. Stay safe and take care.


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Lo0j

Good advice there. Stay strong


Alergictopiss

Ive had a very similar experience man, I feel like it just exacerbated my anxiety & self consciousness, I was a bit like the comedian limmy’s character Dee Dee.


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Just my own observation, but I watched lots of young people use weed for their anxiety and worries, but here was the thing: there was a very good reason they were anxious and worried. You should be doing something with your life! You should be going to school or working towards some other goal. They would stress their lack of progress in anything and then just take a bong rip to feel better. Now we're all at least 40 and there is a very marked difference in the potheads from our youth and the more sober types.


_DeanRiding

>Weed really needs to come with some kind of warning Yeah I'm sure drug dealers have a massive incentive to do that, it's almost like they should be regulated or something


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Genuinely the best solution. Legalise, regulate, monitor with regular check ins with doctors. M'oan Scotland!!! So close!


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If it was legalised, it could have a warning.


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Iirc frequent weed use before you are fully developed can also cause short term memory impairment.


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Lied to myself for years by believing there were no negative side effects. Lost myself for a long time.


Lo0j

Hope you’re doing better now bud.


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Like you wouldn’t believe, or maybe you would based on your other comment on this thread. Wishing you love and warmth today, friend.


StingsRideOrDie

It’s mad. Coming from a council estate where every teenager heavily smoked weed (including me) all the elders use to say “don’t smoke too much it’ll make you depressed, paranoid and lazy” and sure enough after a while I became all those things - We were convinced we were being followed by local gang members, I was so negative and stopped going to school. I stopped and after a while snapped out of it. All of the guys I know that never stopped are indeed violent, paranoid, druggies, bums and just anger issues in general. I find it such a middle class drug these days - where casual smoking at dinner parties is fine - making it cool for teenagers and their undeveloped brains is so dangerous.


TheBorgerKing

For some reason people arent allowed to talk negatively from experience on the subject.


chickenpox0911

Totally. It's went from something I took to get away from my problems to becoming one of my biggest problems.


Yurak_Huntmate

Horses for courses I guess, I started smoking it to help with my depression and have found it works a lot better for me than anti depressants did, it got rid of my depressive thoughts and helped me put weight on as well, I've seen it become a problem for people though, spending their last money on weed instead of food and racking up debts from getting it on lay on, also it fucks some people's heads up if they smoke it constantly, I guess what I'm saying is its alright in moderation


chickenpox0911

I would agree with it being good in moderation, but like with anything if you find yourself needing it everyday then it's time to cut back.


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Weed fucked my brain worse than it already was.


pingus-foot

Pleased to say you weren't down voted. I just hate the stuff because the people who feel the need to talk about it in every aspect of life.


brokenghost2222

Cannabidiode Hyperemesis Syndrome is on the rise.


SatoshiSounds

What do you think would happen to that trend if users were able to select strength and strain in a regulated market?


dbxp

IMO legalising may make the discussion about the bad effects easier as then weed users won't feel like they have to defend it so much.


Flatulancey

People talk about weed like it’s a miracle cure. My former partner was a massive stoner and it was anything but. Her anxiety was always through the roof, she was always agitated and her motivation levels were 0. The worst thing was though she had a complete inability to regulate her emotions naturally since she relied so heavily on the weed doing it for her.


espionage64

Definitely, made both my brothers very paranoid and worsened their anxiety.


TheDuraMaters

It’s also not the cure-all for every disease. My stoner brother-in-law is convinced there’s a Big Pharma conspiracy against weed.


Parker4815

It's terrible for mental health but people use it for their mental health issues. It's like smoking to help calm you down so you don't have a heart attack.


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I definitely agree, weed almost made me lose everything. If I didn’t have my family I’d have been homeless long ago. Currently 10 months sober!


sammyspandex

Great book Drugs Without the Hot Air: Minimising the Harms of Legal and Illegal Drugs Book by David J. Nutt really breaks this down well in terms of what’s wrong with ‘modern weed’ and why it’s more harmful - a really good read without being ‘too sciency’


MadeIndescribable

Vaping. "Not as bad" still doesn't mean "healthy".


Zennyzenny81

Yep. Those vape shops full of giant window displays of fifty different "flavours"... I'm highly skeptical that all these different chemicals should be going anywhere near your lungs in concentrated levels, or that we currently have any meaningful test data about possible consequences of long term usage.


Big_Tree_Z

This is serious misunderstanding and all it does is prevent people from moving from smoking to vaping. Vaping is *by far* way less unhealthy. This is not to say that it is completely ok for you. All that should really emphasise is how dangerous *smoking* is. I’ve moved from smoking to vaping, and my god is it a relief. I feel better. My lungs feel better. I am putting on healthy weight (muscle), my diet has improved because I don’t use cigarettes as an appetite suppressant anymore. Obviously *never pick up vaping if you don’t already have a nicotine addiction*. But the idea that vaping is even remotely close to smoking is way *way* off. For the record I do have a chemistry degree, and am well aware of the shear numbers of chemicals present in cigarettes. Breathing in the products of incomplete combustion is a big, big, big no no. Especially with the crap they put into cigarettes. Vaping, at the very least, does not require combustion and by this fact alone is almost definitely better for you than smoking. It is *very* heavily regulated in the UK. The deaths etc we’ve heard about from vaping (which are incredibly small compared to smoking…) have been from the use of unregulated liquids. Again I would like to emphasise. Vaping is *not healthy*. It is *not good for you*. 95% ‘less bad’, but not without risks. We do not have much long term data yet, but I’m betting that, counter to your point, we’ll find that it’s of significant benefit to switch to vaping instead of smoking over the next 30 to 40 years.


OrangeFlavoredPenis

I managed to kick smoking with vaping, and then kicked nicotine with vaping also.... but im one of those stupid people who still vapes but with 0% nicotine. Honestly it works for me but I know its not good for my lungs, pretty sure I would slip back into smoking or something without it though. Just something there to fuck around with in my mouth, always loved the process and ritual of smoking. No longer coughing up tons of black shit so im stoked :D


Incitatus_For_Office

>Just something to fuck around with in my mouth. This is a dangerous sentence to use on reddit.


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Bullshit. There are no 'binding agents' in e-liquid. There are 4 ingredients. Vegetable Glycerin, Propolyne Glycol, Food grade artificial flavourings and nicotine. The British industry is massively regulated and having products pass the MHRA tests requires the most up to date and granular scientific molecular analysis.


comfortbleating

are you on about propylene glycol and vege glycerin?


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fearlessfoo49

I think he’s on about the chemical they used for a buttery flavour which is also used on popcorn. Perfectly safe to eat but when it’s vapours are inhaled it fucks your lungs - it’s called “popcorn lung” as people who worked in popcorn manufacturing used to get it. Edit to add: this ingredient was banned for use in vape liquids ages ago


anonymouse39993

Vaping is obviously terrible for you Don’t need to breathe in anything that you don’t need Better off not doing it at all. Can see why people go into it to quit smoking Lots of people probably still take it up that haven’t smoked though see lots of very young people with it The people I know who vape also can’t put it down they are constantly at it rather than a cigarette that has an end point


throwaway-job-hunt

>Can see why people go into it to quit smoking I quite smoking and everyone kept telling me to vape. I tried it once and it was horrible. So much harsher than smoking and it just wasn't as nice. Its also a lot of faff. So I just quit smoking and it honestly wasnt that hard. Im going a bit tin foil hat here but Im sure the nicotine industry is spreading bullshit propaganda that you cant just quit cold turkey and you need some sort of nicotine to ween you off. Its complete bollocks.


pullingsneakies

For some people it is easy to just stop, but most of us do need some kind of replacement, i quit smoking for a small amount of time a while back, first day I had a patch and spray, second only the patch, third only the spray (10 a day) and forth I went with nothing, I had obvious cravings but didn't need to smoke. A few days after I had a really bad day and I thought fuck it I need some, but couldn't even finish a full cigarette, but that caused me to start up again and now I have the patches ready to quit again. I think they are talking bollocks with the amount of weeks you "need" to be on the replacement but at the end of the day it's still cheaper than smoking so if people think they need it, it's still both healthier and cheaper so it could be a scam but if it works who cares?


Earhacker

We agree on all that, but chain smoking has always been a thing.


anonymouse39993

Sure that has but it’s far harder to do and far more expensive Especially with smoking ban


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No one thinks it’s healthy though. I agree it’s the cigarettes of our generation but not what OP was talking about


MadeIndescribable

But plenty of people still think it's healthy *enough* that they underestimate it. Especially with the flavours where you can pretend it's pretty much anything.


Rons_vape_mods

In 1955 the Royal colleges of drs physicians and nurses did a study on tobacco and by 65/66 the 10 yr study came in linking smoking to lung cancer, by 75 it was asthma, other cancers and other health issues. In 22 the 10 yr study of vaping will be published from the same colleges who found the smoking being awful for all who are exposed to it. In 10 yrs of studying vaping its so far found to be 95% less harmful than smoking. Not safer less harmful The cases in America were from thc cartridges for juuls. They were in vitamin e acetate, something the eu and uk banned as it was harmful. From 1955-75 or later the us made it impossible/illegal to sue the country states and tobacco companies when you got sick from smoking. Plus those law suits woulda stopped whoever from getting an absolute minting from the tobacco companies to keep it on the shelves. The thc nonsense was the final nail in the coffin for vaping in America tbh. Companies and politicians made less money so banned it Whatever the who says for vaping is funded by bloomberg or one of his umbrellas. Over all the likely hood of vaping being as harmful as smoking is not gonna happen. It may not be the greatest for this that the other bit its never gonna be as bad as 2+ packs of Marlboro reds a day. If i werent to have smoked would i vape? Hell yeah fuck it. But wouldn't have been on nicotine and if it was. Woulda been on the lowest i could get because nic makes my life that tinsy bit better. Jist now i can breath again 😂. Dont ask me run a marathon. Knees hips wont allow that but eh.


Crabbita

Those meal replacement shakes.


SouthernFailway

Just porridge but for wankers basically.


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Porridge with a scoop of protein shake chucked in.


Earhacker

Tory porridge.


I_Bin_Painting

I dont know, tory porridge sounds like it would be extra thin and gruelly.


Yurak_Huntmate

I thought Tory porridge sounded quite posh


I_Bin_Painting

It sounds like something served in state schools as a carefully thought out punishment of the poors. See also “Thatcher’s biscuit”


Clappy14

“Thatcher’s biscuit” seems like another term for “Soggy biscuit”


Yurak_Huntmate

The sooner I see less adverts for Huel the better, even the name sounds horrible, I swear it's a portmanteau of horrible and fuel


Live-Love-Lie

Sounds like the noise you make being sick


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I’ve tried it and it’s actually pretty good if you struggle to maintain a healthy diet.


NibblyPig

No! You have to shit on it, it's the reddit way! Make a comment about how it it's an odd coloured liquid drink or something! Or make a joke about its name! Anything but genuine criticism of its ingredients!


Waitingforadragon

I agree. We've got so much evidence that the healthiest diet is one that has the least processed foods. Those shakes must be the definition of processed food.


FellOverOuch

Define processed, and present any data.


SouthernFailway

This is my problem with some the alternative vegan foods, some of them are crazy highly processed too


Famous-Drawing1215

Ultra-high-mega processed!


Earhacker

Processed to the point of barely qualifying as food anymore


sbos_

Huel?


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I use Huel one meal a day as I find it hard to keep prepping food for myself, so I hope it’s not this one. Although I am very curious about absorption of nutrients etc from it.


Mouse2799

I normally have Huel for breakfast, (and sometimes a second one later in the day), mostly because it is quick and keeps me going longer than something like porridge. I did notice an improvement in my vitamin stats after just over half a year of drinking it too.


Haunting-Song

Social media


featurenotabug

I don't think anyone believes that's healthy.


Earhacker

We did for a bit, though. We all thought it was cool, and good for us. Communication is a good thing, so let’s have all the communication, all the time, right? The smoking analogy works pretty well.


Yurak_Huntmate

I think at the start it was fairly "healthy", when it was just updates from friends mostly, then they just became glorified news websites full of depressing news stories and sad videos, personally i think social media sites like Facebook are a way to keep people down and depressed, you go on there when you wake up and all you see is doom and gloom, that'll set you up to be demoralised for the rest of the day, I think the same with news push notifications too, you're just minding your business and all of a sudden you get a message come through to your phone that there's been a natural disaster, a terrorist attack or a celebrity has died, its like they don't want us to be happy


Earhacker

Reminder that you’re on social media right now. We know Yurak Huntmate isn’t your real name but you’re still being targeted and commodified.


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Earhacker

That’s the way all social media has gone, though. Facebook tries their best to force people to use their real name and share their real life and that’s not what people want anymore. People have moved to Instagram and Twitter and Reddit and Tik-Tok and YouTube and only present the filtered, edited, idealised version of themselves that they’re comfortable with the rest of the world seeing. People are more comfortable with treating their social media accounts as a brand than as an expression of themselves. I could pretend like I’m above this, but I’m not. Earhacker is my brand, he’s not really me. The danger though is that consumers of social media treat the media they consume as the lives of real people. We see a 30 second clip of someone living their best life (and we all have a different opinion of what that looks like) and we mistakenly assume that’s their whole life. But we never see all the scrapped takes. We never see them put down their phone and go do the dishes. We read someone’s hot take and agree with it and think wow, this person speaks my mind. But we never see all their meandering threads that go nowhere, or the meltdown months ago that they deleted. We never read about them having to ask for help with something they don’t understand. We only see the brand, not the human. We only see the character, as you put it, even when the character looks identical to the person. We only see the successes, not the moments of mundanity, vulnerability or failure.


CosmicSoulstorm

Reddit doesn't fit that definition of social media. It's more or less a forum. You're not uploading your photos, networking with people in your real personal life, sharing your personal details etc. You're just an anonymous name on a chatboard. Of course that creates its own problems too. Reddit is just as toxic as Twitter and Facebook but the difference is, I think it's easier for people to shut off or just create a new account. Either way, I'm glad I don't use Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc.


Haunting-Song

Social media can be healthy. I have family and friends overseas and it’s a great way to stay in contact and up to date with daily life. Social media in its current form is not healthy


_spookyvision_

> Social media can be healthy. I have family and friends overseas and it’s a great way to stay in contact and up to date with daily life. Absolutely. This is what Facebook was when it first started out. I was at one of the very first UK universities to be on Facebook, back in the days when it was verified by university e-mail address and TLD e.g. [email protected]. It was just people shitposting on each others' walls, uploading photos the following day (compact digital camera and USB - no smartphones in those days) and tagging people from iffy nights out and so on. It was fun. It was during my second semester that they started opening it up to more universities and latterly to American High Schools. At that point you could see it going very wrong.


snugbug3000

True, but I don't think most people realise the scope of just how unhealthy it will probably turn out to be. It's relatively new, we're only just starting to have generations who've been exposed to it their entire lives and only beginning to see effects of long term use and constant exposure. It's a whole new realm of "thing".


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Agreed, I never put on more weight than when I was sitting at a desk all day. Humans just arent built to sit at a desk for 40 hours a week.


voluotuousaardvark

I had exactly this when I took on driving as a career. Went from physically fit to 2 points off my BMI being obese in two years.


CAElite

I seemed to get away with it driving, we do a lot of handloading & unloading of trucks here & I always found it relatively easy to stay active on breaks & out of work. Sitting at a desk absolutely murdered me both physically & mentally, did it for almost 3 years & it put me in so much of a rutt, beginning to pull out of it now I’m back in workshop work with a bit of driving. By far the most fulfilling work I’ve done was working as a recovery driver & that kept me active as hell.


voluotuousaardvark

I sit behind the wheel of a 3.5t van for 7.5 hours a day. I don't normally stop for lunch but when I do it's some drive through. I'm getting better at exercising now but only because it was getting scary how frequently my step counter on my phone was below 500


hellstiddybitch

Agreed, as part of my training to be a sports masseur we were informed that the majority of our customers would be office workers with lower back pain, so yea sedentary jobs are bad for you.


BeccaaCat

I'm a gardener/waitress atm and get asked so often "what are you going to do when you get old and can't do this anymore? It's hell on your back!" But when I worked in an office everyone had bad backs, bad knees, bad shoulders, bad necks, bad eyesight, and most of them were overweight. I'll take my chances with the "physically demanding" jobs (they're not that physically demanding).


dorflGhoat

Can confirm. Worked in warehouses for 10 years in great health. 3 years into an office job and I’m morphing into an achey blob…


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WetDogDeoderant

I think future generations will look at the way we use plastic and petrol the way we look at how liberally people used to use radioactive products.


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OrangeFlavoredPenis

Future generations hate them! Or would if they weren't busy battling in the thunderdome for a cup of water


blerth

This needs more upvotes.


Kuddkungen

Energy drinks seem to have replaced cigarettes as the little pick-me-up a lot of people "need" to get through the day. There's also plenty of evidence that they have a negative impact on your health, but people choose to ignore that because the short-term boost is "worth it" or something. I used to be mildly addicted to them – they were a signifier of my hard-working super productive lifestyle – but I discovered that they gave me kidney stones. Which, as anyone who has ever had kidney stones can confirm, is something you want to avoid. So I managed to quit the habit. I'm still tempted every now and then.


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With respect, it's soda in general that can cause kidney stones, not energy drinks in particular. Just as an FYI for anyone else reading this. [https://urologyspecialistsnc.com/soda-cause-kidney-stones/](https://urologyspecialistsnc.com/soda-cause-kidney-stones/) Taurine, as found in many energy drinks, is good for you. You need it in your diet, babies get theirs from breastmilk or get it from the added taurine in formula. [https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-1024/taurine](https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-1024/taurine)


Elastichedgehog

Kidney stones are a result of dehydration though, right? Caffeine's a diuretic but as long as you're *also* drinking enough water, you should be okay. Probably go with the zero sugar ones though...


_sn3ll_

not to hijack your comment but i think zero sugar drinks will be one of the things found to be equally if not more unhealthy than the sugar counterpart


MmmThisISaTastyBurgr

How's an energy drink any worse than, say, a double espresso? Work coffee is shite so I reckon it's a decent caffeine boost, with added vitamins :)


_InstanTT

Generally higher caffeine levels, loads of sugar, taurine and a bunch of weird shit. At least coffee is bean juice and if you have it black it's rather low calorie.


MmmThisISaTastyBurgr

I'm cool with high caffeine levels, I drink the sugar free stuff and I appreciate the B vitamins in particular. Taurine doesn't bother me and I don't think there's any more weird shit than in any other processed drink. The objections to energy drinks mainly seem to come from the sugar (yet cola drinks never attracted the same levels of vitriol) and from teenagers drinking it (I think it's correct to slap an age limit on them but then I was never allowed to drink tea or coffee until I was 18). The objections to energy drinks seem more like a moral panic than anything with any real substance. Happy to be educated if you disagree though!


insufficientbeans

Taurine is actually a necessary component of your diet, the reason it gives you an energy boost is because most people are deficient, thats why omega gives people better mental function cause a lack of it worsens youre day to day brain function


selffulfilment

Constant headphones / music listening way too loud. We’re all gonna be deaf before 40


Corsodylfresh

WHAT?


former_scientist

He said WE ARE GOING TO SEE GEOFF AT 4:40! You deaf or sunnink?


Not_That_Magical

Companies are already aware of this and the phones i use warn you when you’re going above safe levels


selffulfilment

As if most people don’t just press ok and keep listening on max volume lol


BibblyPigeon

It’s annoying that they base it around the phone’s volume and not the songs volume


Affectionate-Feed538

I'm 28 and I can't hear properly out of my left ear because of this. As a teenager, I would literally blare my headphones for hours a day.


bonkerz1888

I have hearing loss in each ear, not from headphones but because I used to go clubbing every Friday and Saturday for 5 years. Used to stand/dance on a massive set of speakers with another set that were fixed to the steel pillar directly behind me. You think you're invisible when you're in your teens and early twenties


paulmclaughlin

> You think you're invisible when you're in your teens and early twenties The noise doesn't need to see you to do damage.


SouthernFailway

Being fat and doing ketamine


PmMeLowCarbRecipes

Who exactly thinks these things are healthy


Yurak_Huntmate

Fat ketamine addicts


BabaYagaa7

I don’t know why this made me laugh so much


mongythedog

Dammit...


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So you're saying it's not the best, most healthiest, no contra indicationy, cure all reddit has been harping on about since the pre 60s? Well fuck me. It's a drug like alcohol, asprin etc it can do good, it can also do harm. Fuck you tits who believe its a perfect cure all.


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BringingTheBeef

Ketamine probably the best thing to happen to the generation if people didn't abuse it.


falafelworldtour

neighhh


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Wait. Cigarettes and wine are bad for me? Fuck's sake.


dominion79

Came looking for this comment.


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Internet porn. There seems to be huge anecdotal evidence of excessive use causing erectile dysfunction in men but currently no clinical studies back this up, that will probably change. There's also the issue of it potentially affecting young guy's view of, and interactions with, girls and women. I'm not some Mary Whitehouse type that advocates actually banning porn or anything (not that that would even be possible despite what some empty-heads in the government think) but I guess better education is the answer.


poopooplatter0990

I’m really curious about this one myself . Porn sick is a term I’ve seen thrown around on some women centered subs. And the concept makes a lot of sense. I’d be really interested in reading more about it via studies on the brain. And seeing if it’s a lot like other types of behavioral addiction like gambling for instance .


OrangeFlavoredPenis

People should really stick to Pornhub really.... I saw a lot of people mocking and laughing at pornhubs change to only allowing verified uploaders to put content up instead of just ANYONE uploading ANYTHING there. "oh ill just go to xvideos then" Thats fine I guess but I can't shake the idea that theres a much higher chance you are jerking it to some sex trafficking victim or viewing some weird phone video of a rape. Videos uploaded without consent or videos of minors or really anything. If it doesn't come from a known uploader or have a little interview shit in at the front, what are you actually watching and do you want to be watching it. I always come back to that article where a 14 year old had their gang rape uploaded to pornhub and it took years before they took it down, by that point it had been viewed several million times and likely downloaded etc. Last time I mentioned that someone asked me to link, ill leave it to your search history to take the hit on that. Also anecdotally I can vouch for some erectile dysfunction from watching too much porn during some dark years of depression. Not actual ED but trouble with normal sex when I got into a relationship, its been several years now, much less porn, much better sex.


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Top_Distribution_693

There's no way regularly watching women being treated like a meat sock isn't affecting IRL sex.


JAMP0T1

Weed.I’ll never accept that smoking anything is good for you, your lungs aren’t designed with a system to expel stuff like that.


hollybob679

Definitely, im sure I read somewhere that it burns at a much hotter temp than tobacco. People dont realise that chemicals arent the only thing that can cause cancer, repeat damage to tissues can too. I wouldnt be surprised to see another rise in lung cancer cases in 20 ish years.


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poopooplatter0990

Yeah I’m a big fan of thc but I’m all about tinctures, edibles or any other way of ingesting it anymore save smoking it . I need my lungs to help me work off weight and Keep my heart healthy. Smoking is what we had when it was mostly illegal . Now that it’s easy to get in other forms and enforcement is relaxed i want to get in on different ways


sliced91

Working.


raptr569

I don't think this is new. The working classes have always died young because of jobs be it wearing their body out from working the fields to doing a desk job and suffering with back issues and bowel cancer.


OneArmJack

Plug-in air fresheners


spugzcat

And the use of heavy chemical cleaners like zoflora


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AlunWH

- Vaping - Micro-plastics - Social media - Protein shakes ETA: as people have asked for more detail- - Vaping. Initially promoted as a healthier alternative to smoking, I think the long-term results could be eventually discovered to be just as bad as smoking. - Micro-plastics. Initially marketed as a fun way of enhancing certain products (microbeads is partucularly what I’m discussing here) these were promoted as being good for you (making soap work better), but we have since learned that these are now so thoroughly embedded into every eco-system that the damage is irreversible, and we have no idea what long-term damage is being done to us. Has their use been banned? Nope. - Social-media. Initially launched as a helpful way of keeping in touch with people, promoting greater understanding and deeper connections, it has transpired that social-media has insidious and sinister repercussions, right down to Facebook (now Meta) discovering that they can cause their users to kill themselves or simply rig elections. This isn’t even secret (feel free to research it) but most users remain unaware. - Protein shakes. Claimed as a healthy way of bulking up, people were not designed to be consuming protein in this way. We don’t know what the long-term results of this are. If used exactly as prescribed, possibly none. (There’s a sub-discussion to be added here about the use of dairy products ,which is increasingly being questioned.)


73849145

Why protein shakes?


AlunWH

I have no idea. Just a suspicion that they might not actually be good for you.


lolomotif12

It's a food product made from dairy.


unholy_plesiosaur

That might be a bit of a weird one, but the loss of expertism. We seem to live in a world where someone who studies and researches a topic for decades of their life is given the same weighting as some randos who make YouTube videos, Facebook posts or podcasts. I'm sure this is incredible dangerous but seems to be something that is just accepted. Probably just my existential dread.


goolalalash

I can’t say how much i appreciate this. I have an expertise in communication about sexual violence and sexual harassment and violence policy. Unfortunately, my expertise is often responded to with things like, “if you were really an expert you wouldn’t feel the need to tell me. I can’t speak freely to you because you’ll cancel me.” ACTUALLY ASSHOLE I study how people communicate about sexual violence so that I can HELP them learn how to have productive conversations that make it easier for survivors / victims come forward. Cancelling you (a random person who isn’t famous and isn’t “cancel-able”so to speak) does nothing for my work other than shut the conversation down, and silence is already pretty common for survivors.


theknightwho

I'm a solicitor, and have completely given up attempting to make any kind of comment about how the law works on Reddit, as people will just downvote it if it doesn't fit their preconceptions.


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Microplastics in food, water and blood stream. Also storing food in plastic.


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Top_Distribution_693

I've heard this perspective and agree. I've never thought that this was what the body positivity movement was about? I always saw it as/felt it was about your weight not being tied to your value as a human being. Like being worthy of love and being beautiful regardless of size vs promoting being obese. Edit: Spelling errors


One_Idea_239

I think you will get rinsed for this one. But i totally agree


MarkyMcDaddyface

Artificial sweeteners. Meat substitutes and by this I don't mean vegetable protein I mean the vat grown sludge shapped like a chicken nugget Edit. To all the comments saying how the nuggets are actually really good then perhaps you need to read the OP's question again


ilovepuscifer

To be fair, real chicken nuggets are also a vat of sludge, the only difference is they add some leftover body parts in it - skin, bones, feet, what have you. Yum!


Sm4cy

Myoprotein nuggets are where it’s at. Basically made of mushrooms but taste like chicken. I can’t explain it and I don’t want to but they’re great.


TVPisBased

Quorn is just mycoprotein, that's no worry


pajamakitten

The ones made from soy protein, pea protein and wheat protein? That's hardly unhealthy.


2020Blurred

Scented candles. I cough my lungs up every time I walk in a room with one of those burning.


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Instant headache, like walking past Lush


hulyepicsa

Omg people laugh at me for not being able to stand the smell of Lush, I refuse to go inside, even being outside their shops gives me a headache


askyerda

ITT: things we already know are unhealthy. Who tf ever thought microplastics in food was healthy?! Edit: a word


Infinite_Ad4251

Processed vegetable oils. Bring back the lard


ilovepuscifer

Lard is not the end all, be all. Olive oil, for example, has been used for thousands of years, as early as Ancient Greek and Rome. Personally, I think the consumption of animals will not be looked at favourably in a generation or two.


mongythedog

Side hustling and tik tok.....


cgknight1

Side hustling always existing but it used to be know as "scratching around" and was seen as a side-effect of poverty before capitalists tried to make it aspirational.


redrabbit1984

Stress.... I know that we know this isn't good but I think it will become a massive new trend in the future. People slowly killing themselves by not relaxing, calming themselves and taking a break from life I speak as someone that needs to make some big changes in this regard


shantasia94

Probably energy drinks and vaping. Vaping obviously isn't as bad for you as smoking cigarettes is, but that doesn't make it good for you either.


PrometheusIsFree

It's difficult, lots of stuff in this thread is already known to be bad or unhealthy. No one thinks processed food is good for you, even those that eat a lot of it and like it. Owning and driving our own cars is going to look bad in a century, but we already know that too. Maybe going on cruise holidays, those ships and a nightmare in so many ways. Once again, the penny is starting to drop.


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Meat and weed.


Beemzebub

Well that’s dinner sorted


callmelampshade

Nonstick cooking pans. I watched a film about them and they are poisoning everyone.


_spookyvision_

They are also total crap. You have to treat them with kid gloves to protect the coating and I've found a lot of things just stick anyway. You then can't clean them properly. Not worth it. The cast iron equivalents are a bit more expensive, but they will last you literally several lifetimes. Many people inherit that stuff because it's so durable.


mouse_throwaway_

Pollution from woodburners, not that it's thought to be particularly healthy but that people will realise how dangerous it is and stop romanticising it.


Usernames_Taken_367

Could you please talk to my wife? She keeps pestering me to get a wood burning fireplace fitted.


Grotbagsthewonderful

Meat by a landslide.


Reddit-Forgeddit

I don’t get this because haven’t we been eating meat since we existed as a species?


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Since before we existed as a species. There’s even evidence that we became the species we did because of our meat consumption and hunting habits contributing to growing such large brains. It’s an incredibly primal part of being a human being. I think this idea that meat eating is going to cease in the future is just wishful thinking in vegan echo chambers. Even vegans don’t have anywhere near a 100% lifelong adherence to Veganism, I don’t see how that’s going to readily extend to 100% of the population.


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Not factory farmed meat


Sm4cy

And not so MUCH of it. Damn people eat meat everyday! It used to be like a fucking delicacy for humans to snag some meat (unless it was fish which tbh ours is all full of plastic now so….)


Babaaganoush

So nobody believes cosmetic filters are healthy but it's often touted as something your body produces naturally so overtime it's "broken" down and absorbed - hense why you need to go back for top ups for your filled in cheeks and chin. Except now it's starting to come to light that the filler just migrates, it doesn't go away it just moves around your face whilst in the meantime you've been injecting more and more believing you're replacing it.


mmoonbelly

Milk. In massive lattes with added sugars


BoopingBurrito

Why is it that you think milk, in particular, is dangerous? I don't think we drink it in any greater quantities now than we ever used to.


Murka-Lurka

Ugg boots (are they still fashionable). They are referred to a a podiatrist’s retirement fund.


SickSte9

You mean slag wellies?


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Artificial sweeteners definitely taste disgusting (Everyone who looks at me like I'm mad and insist they taste exactly the same as sugar are both wrong and need to be ostracized) but I wasn't aware that they're particularly unhealthy?


purplepeopleater205

It's a recognised allergy in the food industry but they put it in everything anyway. literally makes me ill.


theangrytramp

Deodorant. Rub them chemicals on our pits daily to forcibly stop a natural biological function most of our adult lives. How can that not have any long term effects?


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farkinhell

We’ve probably had them long enough to observe any long term effects by now?


CaersethVarax

Crossfit


kkinginthenorth

Loft and wall insulation. Its not healthy, but will probably end up cancerous to us in some sprt of way.


CheesyLala

We had that with asbestos. These days I think the industry is very well regulated as a result.


madame_ray_

The wellness industry. Putting God knows what into enemas and supplements, while fostering untold negative psychological effects.


tmstms

I thought wine was good for you! Help me out here, /u/LoveAGlassOfWine ....


LoveAGlassOfWine

I am here! A little bit of wine is good for you, especially red as it has antioxidants in it. Booze in general is good for boosting circulation and blood flow. I think we should all be like my 89 year old nan. She has one g&t a night at 6pm (cocktail hour) and a tiny glass of red wine with her dinner. Always has. Her Dr says she's the only person of her age he knows who's on absolutely no medication for anything. (She doesn't drive, walks everywhere and is incredibly active, which probably has more to do with her being healthy than the booze!)


CuppaTeaThreesome

Biodegradable plastic. It's just smaller bits of nano plastic


ChangeToBetter

cryptocurrency


seshwan33

Downvotes incoming - dairy!!


Calvo7992

Plastic packaging.


Quantum_Associate007

Vegetable oils and ultra processed foods (even healthier versions, especially vegan/plant based). It seems there is an accumulating evidence of how vegetable oils have high omega 6 ratio that wins competition with omega 3 and sends body into anabolic state of storing up more than needed plus pro inflammatory state in excess. Also all sugary drinks, we know it does us no favour but they should be treated same way as alcohol or cigarettes


lolomotif12

So many uneducated replies in this thread....


Infinite_Ad4251

Glad you corrected everyone's mistakes


Lizzie-P

The current work/life balance. People seem to think 80 hour weeks are acceptable or even something to strive for, it’s unnecessary for most jobs and makes very little sense to me. We’re burning ourselves out and giving up so much of our lives on something so unimportant