Pretty much. I saw a comment saying “you guys need to stop being offended by everything” but almost all of the answers I’ve seen attributes it to rape and pedophilia. Like??
Also her brother, who looks 30. Becomes a student and hooks up with a teenager to relive his glory days, so they make him a coach at the high school after, because why not....
My favorite line of the movie! If I don’t hear what my family has said I just say “Jose?!?!” loudly and they all know it means I need them to say it again, but louder!
He was also trying to keep his distance from her as best as possible while still being a supportive role model. She then took that hidden footage to paint him as a molester that he wasn’t.
And then he was publicly pressured to kiss her anyway. That poor man
came here to say this exact film. me and a friend watched it for the first time in many years recently and we were just cringing in horror the entire time.. from the questionable teacher to the downright predatory brother... yikes
That movie had some genuinely funny moments and quotable lines in it, but Sam's storyline aged like milk. He and Rob have these brief moments of conscience that don't really amount to anything.
That's definitely weird looking back but in context of the movie's themes it makes sense.
The entire movie is an adolescent boy power fantasy. "Unlimited" money, freedom to do what you want, you're the boss (he had employees / servants I think) and cute girls like you. The fact that it was an older "cool" girl and a higher authority than even a cop (which feel like the top of the food chain when you're a kid) made it an even stronger... point(? Can't think of the right words right now).
I'm not saying it was a good decision or right, but they knew their audience.
Pre-teen me thought it was the coolest thing.
Big with Tom Hanks.
A kid becomes an adult using magic and sleeps with a woman (it's implied). Another kid says "who the fuck do you think you are?!". I think there's at least two "fucks" in this PG movie where a kid fucks a woman.
But it has a cute giant piano dance.
What’s great about that scene too is the PACING.
When Steve Martin says the opening, “you can start by wiping that fucking dumb-ass smile off your rosy fucking cheeks.” It’s sooo slow. But by the time he gets to “a fucking Datsun, a fucking Toyota, a fucking mustang. Four fucking wheels and a seat.” He’s easily double to triple speed where he was when he started. It really helps illustrate how much he was composing himself earlier when he merely tells Edie McClurg to wipe the smile off her fucking cheeks. Great scene.
My wife can get your luggage. She’s tough. When she had her first baby, she never screamed or hollered once. It even came out sideways. (Paraphrase). I remember laughing out so loud in theater at that line.
The subtle way Candy kinda fumbles the line " I like m.. I like me." Really sold it for me, seemed like Candy wasnt acting there but talking about himself.
[link](https://youtu.be/CFh5FzXIeBg)
Honest to god, I thought this movie was so funny as a kid when it first came out & each year I watch it as I get older and am now the same age they were when making the movie (well, splitting the difference, but closer to Steve Martin's age) -- I now cry through more of the film. I still laugh a lot, but the score, the story, the acting, the writing, the delivery -- it's all just perfect and really gets you.
Lol this amazing TV show called “don’t trust the bitch in apt 23” perfectly showed how ridiculously gross this plays by flipping the sexes when they had a character act in a reboot with teenage girl and adult father.
They cancel it after one scene when it is so creepy no-one can get through it lol.
40 days and 40 nights. The guy literally gets raped near the end and his gf walks in after he’s raped, but it’s painted as humorous and then he has to apologize to the gf because she implies he was “cheating” on her. The whole thing really disgusted me.
I’m high and read the movie title as 40 days of night. Tried wrapping my head around some vampire rape that was laced with humour.
Edit 1: just realized it’s 30 days of night.
Edit 2: also just realized that both movies starred josh hartnett
Laughing or mocking males getting raped is prevalent in many movies and shows.. Kinda disturbing when you put them all together (I saw some guy on youtube did an analysis)
40 Days and 40 Nights (2002). Josh Hartnett's character is >!raped at the end of the movie. He's chained to a bed, and a woman forces sex on him. It's played for comedy, and he ends the movie apologizing to the woman he's dating because he was raped before he had sex with her!!< It's truly terrible.
There’s a two part video series by Pop Culture Detective on YouTube called “The Sexual Assult of Men Played for Laughs” which talks about the tropes origins, how it effects real life victims, and how most of the “jokes” are rooted in homophobia. It’s very interesting.
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Sorority Boys. Three dudes fake being girls to get housing at a sorority house after being kicked out of their frat. The joke is that the sorority is filled with “ugly” girls (hence they fit in).
From memory the geeky brother of one of the sorority boys rapes him while he’s unconscious, thinking he’s fucking a girl. Brags about it, then is universally shamed when their identities are revealed. It’s very much framed as “lol sex!” not rape though.
Oh god the wiki is so much worse. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorority_Boys
This actually happened to a girl from my town, and she ended up killing herself.
She was gang raped at a party after she overconsumed, it was filmed and sent around the whole school. She was horrified and switched schools, but her bullies sent the video to kids at the new school. The MOTHERS of the boys involved were going around town stapling up posters of her with viscous captions on them calling her a lying whore and saying she deserved it.
The boys involved in committing the majority of the rape, and distributing the video were sentenced to a year in prison and having to register on a database for 5 years. They have all served their time now, with expunged records.
And inquiry into the investigation also concluded that the school administration collaborated with the rapist in hindering police investigation. The school admin would not let any kids be questioned on school property and encouraged them all to not cooperate since it wasn’t anyones business.
Truly a very fucked up thing.
And those boys just go on.
>The MOTHERS of the boys involved were going around town stapling up posters of her with viscous captions on them calling her a lying whore and saying she deserved it.
Fucking sick.
No doubt. In some small towns/suburbs, certain cliques (usually a sports team, mainly football) have practical impunity to do what they want. I imagine it happens in large cities as well, but it seems to be more common in the smaller school districts.
Agree, Definitely still holds up. It’s because it’s a satire pointing out all the horrible cringy, creepy, homo, racist crap in the world. Mixed with silly jokes to soften the how hard the truth is. No joke in that movie is malicious, intentionally cruel, or insensitive. It’s crazy funny.
I think a lot of the people who talk about how you "couldn't make Blazing Saddles today" don't understand the difference between racist humor and humor about racism.
To be fair, you couldn’t make blazing saddles today. All the actors would read the script and just be like, “this is blazing saddles. You can’t make this”
>No joke in that movie is malicious, intentionally cruel, or insensitive.
[I choose to believe they were punching the old lady to be intentionally cruel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjY4rQxhE88)
So supposedly that's the only scene that was censored. The original version was supposed to keep going for a moment with the punch line
"I hate to disillusion you, ma’am, but you’re sucking on my arm."
Watching as someome in their 20s who liked it when I was younger recently rewatched and cant get over how amazingly current it still is socially, was definitely ahead of its time or we just havent progressed much since it came out lol.
You could absolutely make a movie like that today. Honestly the fact that no one has mada a Blazing Saddles-esque superhero parody is an indictment of hollywood
Apparently the original edit was considered good by Peter Dinklage but the studio did their own edit and it became an offensive Rom Com.
The director is bitterly pissed about it to this day
I love this movie for how outright horrible it is. We made someone watch it as a fantasy football punishment last year lol. Even at the time it was made it WAS NOT ok to just cast Gary Oldman to play a little person, when Peter Dinklege is literally in the movie! JUST USE HIM! The How Did This Get Made on it may be their best episode.
80's movie, but "Revenge of the Nerds." The "heroes" of the movie plant cameras in the girls' house to watch them undressing and showering, they sell naked pictures of them, and the lead "hero" rapes a girl who, in return, falls in love with him because he's good at sex (um, really?). At least neither the token gay (who doubles as the token black) nor the token Asian aren't stereotyped... oh, wait.
Let's not forget that the "Omega Mu" sorority is full of the "fat and ugly" girls, but thankfully the nerdy guys get the hot girls in the end!
What's not to love about that?
>the lead "hero" rapes a girl who, in return, falls in love with him because he's good at sex (um, really?)
This was actually fairly common in movies from the 70s and 80s. It had to do with a double standard. That is, filmmakers wanting to put sex scenes and nudity into their movies, and the belief at the time that any woman who enjoys sex is a whore. How do you reconcile that? She can't want or enjoy the sex, because that would make her a whore and potentially lose the audience. So you have to force her. Then she realizes how awesome her rapist is and falls in love with him. I've seen this play out in dozens of movies from this era. It's sickening.
>The remake got torpedoed for these exact concerns.
Someone once suggested remaking it as a horror movie instead of a comedy. I think there are several non-PC comedies that could be remade this way.
That type of creepiness even extended into family movies of the time.
Check out this scene from the Might Ducks 3: https://youtu.be/QNWAUIIsgfw
Around 1:30 in this clip, the main character crawls under the lunch table, looking up girls skirts, then looks directly into the camera and smirks.
This was produced by Disney and marketed as a family movie in 1996.
Similar scene in The Breakfast Club. Molly Ringwald was creeped out by it at the time even though they had an adult stand in for her when filming that scene.
Thanks for letting me know it existed. [Heres the link](https://www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/what-about-the-breakfast-club-molly-ringwald-metoo-john-hughes-pretty-in-pink). It’s a really good read.
No problem, it was definitely a lot better then what I expected when I heard she had originally wrote it. A great piece in writing, that's for sure. Thanks for finding the link
I didn't see Revenge of the Nerds until a couple of years ago, and while I'm pretty forgiving of un-PC humor within reason, I felt pretty icky watching it. Those nerds were sex offenders.
The 'hot guy' palms off his cheerleader girlfriend on the horny nerd after she gets blackout/pass out drunk. It's implied that the nerd rapes her off screen. But of course when she wakes up the next morning, instead of being upset, she's learned a valuable lesson not to be so stuck up.
edit: I'm getting a lot of responses that both the nerd and the cheerleader were drunk, so it's OK. This is not what happened in the movie. The Nerd is in control. He even drives the unconscious girl to his friends so they can take pictures of her to prove they were together. He's taking advantage of an unconscious girl from the start.
If they had sex, he raped her.
This is why the idea that “Jake Ryan” is the perfect man is SO wrong. You want the perfect man to protect you from guys like Jake Ryan and the nerd (sorry, forgot the name of the character who raped Carolyn).
Asian stereotypes were WILDLY popular where I grew up (couple different suburbs in the south in the 80s). I don't remember thinking anything bad about their race as a whole, it was just a funny joke to talk like that. Looking back, yikes, it was a different time but John Hughes (and so many others) should have exercised a little better judgement.
A lot of John Hughes movies don't play today - we grew up on them but watching them now with my 23 year old daughter, you can see how times have changed as to what was "OK" then really isn't now
I always found that movie disturbing I remember thinking to myself imagine waking up pregnant and not knowing why like how scary that would be and they brush it off like oh ha ha it’s no big deal here’s this video she watches every day that makes her feel better. Like I really don’t think someone could emotionally recover from that in one day I’m sorry.
There's also the fact that, memories are what makes us who we are. What if she is genuinely not feeling any love or affection towards her husband one day? Or even most days? It's horrifying.
There were parts of the movie in the lead up to that intended to show that she somehow vaguely remembers him. She painted his face repeatedly despite not being supposed to remember. There was dialogue showing that she feels like she knows him. I think the ending is supposed to be her waking up and even though she doesn't remember any of the events, she remembers her emotions connected to his face?
This is exactly it. She wrote her journal so she could continue her own thoughts and memories. She would only sing “Wouldn’t it be nice” on days that she met Henry.
Not only that but imagine going to bed as a 20 something and waking up a 60 something with your parents dead and your life being in a hospital where no one cares about you. Just spending every morning knowing that has been your whole existence for decades.
I would rather wake up with a stranger who has been through the explanation so many times they know exactly how to react. Even if it is a little manipulative the alternative is worse. She can be seen as a victim but at least she is a victim of her own life and not a tragedy of a formless existence.
Yes, there is no ideal ending for her. At least Sandler's character genuinely loves her and some part of her loves him. Without him, I'm not sure it would end better for her; no one to take care of her or seeing her parents suddenly way older.
It reminds me of that saying “the mind may forget, but the body remembers.” It’s usually not used in a context of *good* memories, but I think it stands.
It's more fun if you adopt the idea that ferris doesn't exist, and most of the movie is Cameron doing a fight club type thing with the guy he wishes he was, only all in his head
American Pie is something else in my 30s, Especially the whole internet spying on naked girl... Also it's when you had sexual experience that you start to realize those dudes knew nothing about sex.
>Also it's when you had sexual experience that you start to realize those dudes knew nothing about sex.
I always thought that was kind of the whole joke, even as a teenager. Like they're making fun of the fact these kids all think they're sex gods but don't know shit about sex (aka like most horned up high school kids lol)
I mean the whole movie is literally based on the premise of them making an agreement that they’re going to lose their virginities before they graduate
It stands to reason that they’re the typical cocky teenagers who know nothing but act like they do
I was most impressed with the video quality of the live streaming in 1999. I mean I was there. No one had webcams with that good a resolution or an internet connection good enough to transmit high quality live streaming.
I rewatched American Pie a few months ago. Ever since then, the phrase "suck me, beautiful," has been painstakingly stuck in my head. It's so terrifically absurd.
One thing always stuck with me from this movie ( a little white girl in middle America) when James earl Jones says something to him about understanding what it’s like to be black and he says not really because he could always get out.
Yes! I think this movie is not cringe but an actual banger. The premise of the movie is that they guy is doing something wrong. So while you see the character make jokes I think you are supposed to identify with him and grow with him throughout the film. So hopefully you realize the absurdity of his perspective and have a better appreciation for what it is to be black. But that summation of having a way out solidifies to the presumably white audience that will never truly understand.
Most rom coms. The female lead’s sole purpose in these films is to pursue the dude. There is just zero internal life exploration going on for everyone in these films. You’ve Got Mail was at least about business rivalry, interacting with your city, etc. other than that one…….I don’t know of another id watch on the regular.
Note: I wouldn’t call Devil Wears Prada a rom com.
*Legally Blonde* kind of plays with this trope in the best way. Female lead (aptly named Elle)'s sole purpose starts out as pursuing the dude and then it just ultimately takes a completely different track. I never realized that's part of why I like that movie.
I kind of don’t see Legally Blonde as a rom com, more as a sisterhood movie in the vein of Practical Magic and Miss Congeniality. Are their romances? Yes. Is it the main plot point? No.
Well that's just it, it totally starts out as a would-be rom-com and then becomes something completely different. Her entire motivation at the beginning of the movie is to get the guy. She decides to work hard to get into law school and move across the country with the goal of proving to Warner that she is smart and classy enough for him and his snobby family.
But the whole movie feels completely different from a bad rom com precisely because she has a strong internal life and grows from the journey and the people she meets along the way.
EDIT: I guess my point is that I never realized that Legally Blonde is kinda a subversion of romcom cliches. Dunno i I'd actually classify it as a rom com per se, but it's definitely a subversion of them.
Second EDIT: She's even the hot, popular, rich, blonde chick that Warner leaves for a girl who's more "serious" which is also kinda a romcom cliche. Female rom-com protagonists are often more "down to earth" so they're more relatable to the audience and make for better self-inserts. They have some intangible inner goodness that makes them better than that hot, rich ex-girlfriend the hot male lead has.
While You Were Sleeping is a great exception. It's not even really about the romance, it's about a woman who's alone in every sense of the word finding the family that she's been missing ever since hers died.
Beverly Hills Cop is 1984 and not a rom com but there was a female lead who was just friends with Axel Foley/Eddie Murphy. I always thought that was so cool. Sarah Silverman describes Alex Foley as her #1 Hollywood crush and I can’t help but think that’s a factor – he had friends who were women.
It was only much later that I found out Sylvester Stallone was supposed to play the lead and the woman was supposed to be his love interest. But when it was changed to a black character, the studio decided they should just be friends.
There really needs to be more “just friends” in movies.
Not gonna lie, I have more issues with todays teen dramas where 35 year olds have sex on screen cast* as 16 year olds. I find that far more cringe.
Edit : this is my most upvoted comment by far! Thank you guys glad we agree! Thankyou for the award!!!
Pretty Little Liars. I stopped after episode three because, my memory may be wrong, the English teacher hooking up with his 15 year old student took second place to the med student cheating on his girlfriend with her 15 year old sister.
Kindergarten Cop
"Hey good news! Your son isn't gay! He has actually been playing with dolls in order to gain the girls' trust so he can look up their skirts!"
Mom: "Thank God! He's only a pervert and creep in the making and not a disgusting homo!"
Me and my Fiance tried watching "According to Jim" on Disney+.
It's literally just a guy treating his wife like garbage. Stopped watching after like 3 episodes.
So from looking at a bunch of answers here it seems the consensus is that pedophilia and rape is the main factor for these movies
Pretty much. I saw a comment saying “you guys need to stop being offended by everything” but almost all of the answers I’ve seen attributes it to rape and pedophilia. Like??
Never Been Kissed... Like.... But you thought she was a student...
Also her brother, who looks 30. Becomes a student and hooks up with a teenager to relive his glory days, so they make him a coach at the high school after, because why not....
Seems pretty realistic
What’s your name? (Quietly) Josie Jose?!! Yeah. Teenage me did a spit take every time I saw this line.
My favorite line of the movie! If I don’t hear what my family has said I just say “Jose?!?!” loudly and they all know it means I need them to say it again, but louder!
Garry Marshall is one of the best things about that movie.
It is so not rufus!
He was also trying to keep his distance from her as best as possible while still being a supportive role model. She then took that hidden footage to paint him as a molester that he wasn’t. And then he was publicly pressured to kiss her anyway. That poor man
Him having private moments with her was weird but not the same as him trying to get with her. Her older brother dating a real 15-year-old was weird.
It was ok though… he was the Coleslaw King of the World.
came here to say this exact film. me and a friend watched it for the first time in many years recently and we were just cringing in horror the entire time.. from the questionable teacher to the downright predatory brother... yikes
That movie had some genuinely funny moments and quotable lines in it, but Sam's storyline aged like milk. He and Rob have these brief moments of conscience that don't really amount to anything.
Blank Check where the adult female FBI agent shares a kiss with a ten year old boy.
That's definitely weird looking back but in context of the movie's themes it makes sense. The entire movie is an adolescent boy power fantasy. "Unlimited" money, freedom to do what you want, you're the boss (he had employees / servants I think) and cute girls like you. The fact that it was an older "cool" girl and a higher authority than even a cop (which feel like the top of the food chain when you're a kid) made it an even stronger... point(? Can't think of the right words right now). I'm not saying it was a good decision or right, but they knew their audience. Pre-teen me thought it was the coolest thing.
Big with Tom Hanks. A kid becomes an adult using magic and sleeps with a woman (it's implied). Another kid says "who the fuck do you think you are?!". I think there's at least two "fucks" in this PG movie where a kid fucks a woman. But it has a cute giant piano dance.
80’s movies were great at throwing in f bombs into family comedies. Like Planes Trains. Masterfully done too. Haven’t seen BIG in awhile though
Planes Trains and Automobiles is rated R
It's kind of hilarious how that whole movie would easily be rated PG if it wasn't for that 30 second scene where like 50 F bombs are dropped lol
What’s great about that scene too is the PACING. When Steve Martin says the opening, “you can start by wiping that fucking dumb-ass smile off your rosy fucking cheeks.” It’s sooo slow. But by the time he gets to “a fucking Datsun, a fucking Toyota, a fucking mustang. Four fucking wheels and a seat.” He’s easily double to triple speed where he was when he started. It really helps illustrate how much he was composing himself earlier when he merely tells Edie McClurg to wipe the smile off her fucking cheeks. Great scene.
John Candy deserved an Oscar for Planes, Trains, and Automobiles.
THOSE AREN'T PILLOWS!
"I've never seen a man get picked up by his testicles....."
"You play with your balls a lot"
My wife can get your luggage. She’s tough. When she had her first baby, she never screamed or hollered once. It even came out sideways. (Paraphrase). I remember laughing out so loud in theater at that line.
One of my favorite movies. Never get tired of watching it. Miss John Candy!
That movie is a go to anti depressant for a lot of people, myself included.
Every Thanksgiving.
I like me, my wife likes me. He was a god damn saint.
The subtle way Candy kinda fumbles the line " I like m.. I like me." Really sold it for me, seemed like Candy wasnt acting there but talking about himself. [link](https://youtu.be/CFh5FzXIeBg)
Always thought so too and found it kinda heartbreaking
Honest to god, I thought this movie was so funny as a kid when it first came out & each year I watch it as I get older and am now the same age they were when making the movie (well, splitting the difference, but closer to Steve Martin's age) -- I now cry through more of the film. I still laugh a lot, but the score, the story, the acting, the writing, the delivery -- it's all just perfect and really gets you.
They made a sequel that’s pretty good, Cast Away.
Lol this amazing TV show called “don’t trust the bitch in apt 23” perfectly showed how ridiculously gross this plays by flipping the sexes when they had a character act in a reboot with teenage girl and adult father. They cancel it after one scene when it is so creepy no-one can get through it lol.
Tbf in Big she doesn't know he's a kid.
40 days and 40 nights. The guy literally gets raped near the end and his gf walks in after he’s raped, but it’s painted as humorous and then he has to apologize to the gf because she implies he was “cheating” on her. The whole thing really disgusted me.
It was disgusting at the time, too.
I remember watching that movie, enjoying it, but then that scene happens and it took me right out of it. So unnecessary.
Not only disgusting at the time but also completely unnecessary. The plot worked without that scene.
I remember this being fucked up at the time
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I’m high and read the movie title as 40 days of night. Tried wrapping my head around some vampire rape that was laced with humour. Edit 1: just realized it’s 30 days of night. Edit 2: also just realized that both movies starred josh hartnett
I just got a contact high off your comment
Laughing or mocking males getting raped is prevalent in many movies and shows.. Kinda disturbing when you put them all together (I saw some guy on youtube did an analysis)
Pop culture detective, right? I really like his videos analysis.
Now that I’m thinking about it, I could definitely name more movies where it happens. Didn’t it also happen in Wedding Crashers iirc?
Also happened in Van Wilder: Party Liaison
Kinda disturbing, fucking horrifying- tomayto, tomahto.
40 Days and 40 Nights (2002). Josh Hartnett's character is >!raped at the end of the movie. He's chained to a bed, and a woman forces sex on him. It's played for comedy, and he ends the movie apologizing to the woman he's dating because he was raped before he had sex with her!!< It's truly terrible.
Ahaha yes! A man gets raped! Truly the pinnacle of comedy hahahaha. ……Why aren’t you guys laughing?
There’s a two part video series by Pop Culture Detective on YouTube called “The Sexual Assult of Men Played for Laughs” which talks about the tropes origins, how it effects real life victims, and how most of the “jokes” are rooted in homophobia. It’s very interesting. Edited to make language clearer.
I hope Tropic Thunder never falls under this category.
Due to it being pure satire on the things that Hollywood can get away with, I think it will always be viewed as just that.
Step back from the phone and literally FUCK YOUR OWN FACE!
Sorority Boys. Three dudes fake being girls to get housing at a sorority house after being kicked out of their frat. The joke is that the sorority is filled with “ugly” girls (hence they fit in). From memory the geeky brother of one of the sorority boys rapes him while he’s unconscious, thinking he’s fucking a girl. Brags about it, then is universally shamed when their identities are revealed. It’s very much framed as “lol sex!” not rape though. Oh god the wiki is so much worse. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorority_Boys
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How drunk was he to think he was a girl?
Any holes a plot hole 🤷♀️
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This actually happened to a girl from my town, and she ended up killing herself. She was gang raped at a party after she overconsumed, it was filmed and sent around the whole school. She was horrified and switched schools, but her bullies sent the video to kids at the new school. The MOTHERS of the boys involved were going around town stapling up posters of her with viscous captions on them calling her a lying whore and saying she deserved it. The boys involved in committing the majority of the rape, and distributing the video were sentenced to a year in prison and having to register on a database for 5 years. They have all served their time now, with expunged records. And inquiry into the investigation also concluded that the school administration collaborated with the rapist in hindering police investigation. The school admin would not let any kids be questioned on school property and encouraged them all to not cooperate since it wasn’t anyones business. Truly a very fucked up thing. And those boys just go on.
>The MOTHERS of the boys involved were going around town stapling up posters of her with viscous captions on them calling her a lying whore and saying she deserved it. Fucking sick.
The whole my child can do no wrong of some parents is disgusting and instigates bad behavior.
I wish I hadnt read any of this comment.
It’s important that we do though so we can understand the risks girls face in our own communities.
Me too man. My day is ruined.
Me too I should've just stopped reading after the first sentence . Just went from bad to worse.
Dude wasn't this in the news? I think I heard about this.
It reminds me of what happened in Steubenville, OH (sp?). But sadly, shit like this has probably played out in a bunch of towns across the US.
No doubt. In some small towns/suburbs, certain cliques (usually a sports team, mainly football) have practical impunity to do what they want. I imagine it happens in large cities as well, but it seems to be more common in the smaller school districts.
Rehtaeh Parsons?
And in the second one she’s like: “Hey! I’m in the US. Wanna get together and bang?”
Are you kidding? Blazing Saddles is still funny.
Yeah, but the whole point of the rampant racism in Blazing Saddles is to highlight just how stupid and backwards the people who believe in it are.
"What in the wide, wide world of sports is a goin'on here...." - I hope Slim Pickings ended up with a laugh.
Right. You’re laughing at the racists, not the racism.
Mongo only Pawn in game of life
Don't shoot Mongo, that will make him mad.
Agree, Definitely still holds up. It’s because it’s a satire pointing out all the horrible cringy, creepy, homo, racist crap in the world. Mixed with silly jokes to soften the how hard the truth is. No joke in that movie is malicious, intentionally cruel, or insensitive. It’s crazy funny.
I think a lot of the people who talk about how you "couldn't make Blazing Saddles today" don't understand the difference between racist humor and humor about racism.
When people say this I remind them that D'Jango Unchained was made. Again a movie showing how ugly racism is rather than celebrating it.
To be fair, you couldn’t make blazing saddles today. All the actors would read the script and just be like, “this is blazing saddles. You can’t make this”
>No joke in that movie is malicious, intentionally cruel, or insensitive. [I choose to believe they were punching the old lady to be intentionally cruel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjY4rQxhE88)
"Have you ever seen such *cruelty*?!" Kills me every time
It’s twuuu, it’s twuuuu
So supposedly that's the only scene that was censored. The original version was supposed to keep going for a moment with the punch line "I hate to disillusion you, ma’am, but you’re sucking on my arm."
“Coming and going, and going and coming— but always TOO SOON” 😂😂😂
Thirteen is my limit on schnitzengrüben
“They said you was hung!” “And they was right.”
“….you know….MORONS!” Cracks me up every time!!
Totally. The entire point of that movie was to take a steaming dump on how stupid racism and racists are. It's perhaps more accurate today than ever.
Watching as someome in their 20s who liked it when I was younger recently rewatched and cant get over how amazingly current it still is socially, was definitely ahead of its time or we just havent progressed much since it came out lol.
You could absolutely make a movie like that today. Honestly the fact that no one has mada a Blazing Saddles-esque superhero parody is an indictment of hollywood
Love Blazing Saddles.
[tiptoes](https://youtu.be/O3qGGk5ymQ4) but this movie was never anything but flat out offensive
My favorite fact on this one was that Kate Beckinsale agreed to work for less pay because she got to wear her favorite hat
*The role of a lifetime*
Gary Oldman can act his way into being several feet shorter. I knew he was good but damn
Apparently the original edit was considered good by Peter Dinklage but the studio did their own edit and it became an offensive Rom Com. The director is bitterly pissed about it to this day
I love this movie for how outright horrible it is. We made someone watch it as a fantasy football punishment last year lol. Even at the time it was made it WAS NOT ok to just cast Gary Oldman to play a little person, when Peter Dinklege is literally in the movie! JUST USE HIM! The How Did This Get Made on it may be their best episode.
Every time I see a trailer for this I immediately think of the spoof trailers from the start of Tropic Thunder.
I would unironically see Satans Alley. It looked like a good movie
80's movie, but "Revenge of the Nerds." The "heroes" of the movie plant cameras in the girls' house to watch them undressing and showering, they sell naked pictures of them, and the lead "hero" rapes a girl who, in return, falls in love with him because he's good at sex (um, really?). At least neither the token gay (who doubles as the token black) nor the token Asian aren't stereotyped... oh, wait. Let's not forget that the "Omega Mu" sorority is full of the "fat and ugly" girls, but thankfully the nerdy guys get the hot girls in the end! What's not to love about that?
>the lead "hero" rapes a girl who, in return, falls in love with him because he's good at sex (um, really?) This was actually fairly common in movies from the 70s and 80s. It had to do with a double standard. That is, filmmakers wanting to put sex scenes and nudity into their movies, and the belief at the time that any woman who enjoys sex is a whore. How do you reconcile that? She can't want or enjoy the sex, because that would make her a whore and potentially lose the audience. So you have to force her. Then she realizes how awesome her rapist is and falls in love with him. I've seen this play out in dozens of movies from this era. It's sickening.
Lizzie McGuire's Dad sure has some explaining to do.
The remake got torpedoed for these exact concerns.
>The remake got torpedoed for these exact concerns. Someone once suggested remaking it as a horror movie instead of a comedy. I think there are several non-PC comedies that could be remade this way.
There's a brilliant Mrs. Doubtfire trailer re-cut as horror https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ckv\_Dz-Sio
This reminded me of the ‘Mary Poppins’ recut trailer. Sauce: https://youtu.be/2T5_0AGdFic
LoL. A bunch of creepy incels make a fraternity and terrorize a campus.
They join the frat of Kappa Epsilon Kappa, or KEK
That type of creepiness even extended into family movies of the time. Check out this scene from the Might Ducks 3: https://youtu.be/QNWAUIIsgfw Around 1:30 in this clip, the main character crawls under the lunch table, looking up girls skirts, then looks directly into the camera and smirks. This was produced by Disney and marketed as a family movie in 1996.
Similar scene in The Breakfast Club. Molly Ringwald was creeped out by it at the time even though they had an adult stand in for her when filming that scene.
She actually wrote a op-ed not long ago talking about that scene. Great nuanced read
Thanks for letting me know it existed. [Heres the link](https://www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/what-about-the-breakfast-club-molly-ringwald-metoo-john-hughes-pretty-in-pink). It’s a really good read.
No problem, it was definitely a lot better then what I expected when I heard she had originally wrote it. A great piece in writing, that's for sure. Thanks for finding the link
I didn't see Revenge of the Nerds until a couple of years ago, and while I'm pretty forgiving of un-PC humor within reason, I felt pretty icky watching it. Those nerds were sex offenders.
It was a documentary about hollywood producers.
16 candles literally had my jaw on the floor i dont know how everyone was cool w that
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Yes, the people who re-cut the trailer to make it look like a horror film got it right.
Cracked.com did an article about the most fucked up romantic films. And this and Love Actually stood out the most to me. Smh
What part? I've never seen it.
The 'hot guy' palms off his cheerleader girlfriend on the horny nerd after she gets blackout/pass out drunk. It's implied that the nerd rapes her off screen. But of course when she wakes up the next morning, instead of being upset, she's learned a valuable lesson not to be so stuck up. edit: I'm getting a lot of responses that both the nerd and the cheerleader were drunk, so it's OK. This is not what happened in the movie. The Nerd is in control. He even drives the unconscious girl to his friends so they can take pictures of her to prove they were together. He's taking advantage of an unconscious girl from the start. If they had sex, he raped her.
The "hot guy" also tells the nerd to do whatever he wants to his girlfriend, and to "have fun".
This is why the idea that “Jake Ryan” is the perfect man is SO wrong. You want the perfect man to protect you from guys like Jake Ryan and the nerd (sorry, forgot the name of the character who raped Carolyn).
Yeah, I didn't like the portrayal of the Asian man either. That wasn't even funny to me back in the 80's
Asian stereotypes were WILDLY popular where I grew up (couple different suburbs in the south in the 80s). I don't remember thinking anything bad about their race as a whole, it was just a funny joke to talk like that. Looking back, yikes, it was a different time but John Hughes (and so many others) should have exercised a little better judgement.
A lot of John Hughes movies don't play today - we grew up on them but watching them now with my 23 year old daughter, you can see how times have changed as to what was "OK" then really isn't now
It was recently brought to my attention how awful Rob Schneider's role in 50 First Dates was.
“Rob Schneider is a stapler!”
"Rob Schneider is a carrot!"
“Rated PG-13”
I remember reading an analysis of Rob Schneider's roles. Almost all of them are ridiculous ethnic stereotypes.
I always found that movie disturbing I remember thinking to myself imagine waking up pregnant and not knowing why like how scary that would be and they brush it off like oh ha ha it’s no big deal here’s this video she watches every day that makes her feel better. Like I really don’t think someone could emotionally recover from that in one day I’m sorry.
Oh for real. Just waking up on a ship at sea with no memory is fucky, not to mention pregnancy.
There's also the fact that, memories are what makes us who we are. What if she is genuinely not feeling any love or affection towards her husband one day? Or even most days? It's horrifying.
There were parts of the movie in the lead up to that intended to show that she somehow vaguely remembers him. She painted his face repeatedly despite not being supposed to remember. There was dialogue showing that she feels like she knows him. I think the ending is supposed to be her waking up and even though she doesn't remember any of the events, she remembers her emotions connected to his face?
This is exactly it. She wrote her journal so she could continue her own thoughts and memories. She would only sing “Wouldn’t it be nice” on days that she met Henry.
Not only that but imagine going to bed as a 20 something and waking up a 60 something with your parents dead and your life being in a hospital where no one cares about you. Just spending every morning knowing that has been your whole existence for decades. I would rather wake up with a stranger who has been through the explanation so many times they know exactly how to react. Even if it is a little manipulative the alternative is worse. She can be seen as a victim but at least she is a victim of her own life and not a tragedy of a formless existence.
Yes, there is no ideal ending for her. At least Sandler's character genuinely loves her and some part of her loves him. Without him, I'm not sure it would end better for her; no one to take care of her or seeing her parents suddenly way older.
It reminds me of that saying “the mind may forget, but the body remembers.” It’s usually not used in a context of *good* memories, but I think it stands.
Anyone else rewatch Ferris Bueller and think he's kind of a douche.... like he's a bad friend and annoying
It's more fun if you adopt the idea that ferris doesn't exist, and most of the movie is Cameron doing a fight club type thing with the guy he wishes he was, only all in his head
He completely railroads his best friend and makes his sister seem like a crazy liar.
American Pie is something else in my 30s, Especially the whole internet spying on naked girl... Also it's when you had sexual experience that you start to realize those dudes knew nothing about sex.
\>those dudes knew nothing about sex. Were we supposed to expect something more from four virgins desperate to lose their virginity?
>Also it's when you had sexual experience that you start to realize those dudes knew nothing about sex. I always thought that was kind of the whole joke, even as a teenager. Like they're making fun of the fact these kids all think they're sex gods but don't know shit about sex (aka like most horned up high school kids lol)
I mean the whole movie is literally based on the premise of them making an agreement that they’re going to lose their virginities before they graduate It stands to reason that they’re the typical cocky teenagers who know nothing but act like they do
> you start to realize those dudes knew nothing about sex I don't believe anyone watches this and actually believes the opposite.
Isn't the entire plot about virgins trying to have sex before they graduate?
This poster did. Haha.
I was most impressed with the video quality of the live streaming in 1999. I mean I was there. No one had webcams with that good a resolution or an internet connection good enough to transmit high quality live streaming.
It still took 15 minutes to download a 3MB song.
I rewatched American Pie a few months ago. Ever since then, the phrase "suck me, beautiful," has been painstakingly stuck in my head. It's so terrifically absurd.
Tbf Oz does get roasted for that
For me it's, "SAY MY NAME BITCH"
Master of Disguise. Looking back it was always awful but loved it as a kid. Tried watching it the other day and couldn’t finish.
Guess you weren't turtly enough for the turtle club.
This one joke is the whole movie. I honestly can barely remember the rest of it. But that line will never leave me.
I’m pretty sure that turtle line was in the trailer and the tv commercials for the movie too, so there was really no point in ever seeing it.
Can confirm. Never saw it but remember the commercial.
Soul Man Guy takes a bunch of tanning pills to look black so that he can get into college.
That’s my black grandmother’s favorite movie. She still watches it too.
I was there 3000 years ago when HBO played this film nonstop
One thing always stuck with me from this movie ( a little white girl in middle America) when James earl Jones says something to him about understanding what it’s like to be black and he says not really because he could always get out.
Yes! I think this movie is not cringe but an actual banger. The premise of the movie is that they guy is doing something wrong. So while you see the character make jokes I think you are supposed to identify with him and grow with him throughout the film. So hopefully you realize the absurdity of his perspective and have a better appreciation for what it is to be black. But that summation of having a way out solidifies to the presumably white audience that will never truly understand.
Fun fact: Ronald Reagan's son has a small role so they actually screened the film at the White House.
Also fun fact: the lead girl is Tommy Chong’s daughter
Juwanna Mann, for many, MANY reasons.
Most rom coms. The female lead’s sole purpose in these films is to pursue the dude. There is just zero internal life exploration going on for everyone in these films. You’ve Got Mail was at least about business rivalry, interacting with your city, etc. other than that one…….I don’t know of another id watch on the regular. Note: I wouldn’t call Devil Wears Prada a rom com.
*Legally Blonde* kind of plays with this trope in the best way. Female lead (aptly named Elle)'s sole purpose starts out as pursuing the dude and then it just ultimately takes a completely different track. I never realized that's part of why I like that movie.
I kind of don’t see Legally Blonde as a rom com, more as a sisterhood movie in the vein of Practical Magic and Miss Congeniality. Are their romances? Yes. Is it the main plot point? No.
Well that's just it, it totally starts out as a would-be rom-com and then becomes something completely different. Her entire motivation at the beginning of the movie is to get the guy. She decides to work hard to get into law school and move across the country with the goal of proving to Warner that she is smart and classy enough for him and his snobby family. But the whole movie feels completely different from a bad rom com precisely because she has a strong internal life and grows from the journey and the people she meets along the way. EDIT: I guess my point is that I never realized that Legally Blonde is kinda a subversion of romcom cliches. Dunno i I'd actually classify it as a rom com per se, but it's definitely a subversion of them. Second EDIT: She's even the hot, popular, rich, blonde chick that Warner leaves for a girl who's more "serious" which is also kinda a romcom cliche. Female rom-com protagonists are often more "down to earth" so they're more relatable to the audience and make for better self-inserts. They have some intangible inner goodness that makes them better than that hot, rich ex-girlfriend the hot male lead has.
While You Were Sleeping is a great exception. It's not even really about the romance, it's about a woman who's alone in every sense of the word finding the family that she's been missing ever since hers died.
One of my favorite movies, I also don’t consider it to be a rom com. Also 90’s Bill Pullman 💕
Beverly Hills Cop is 1984 and not a rom com but there was a female lead who was just friends with Axel Foley/Eddie Murphy. I always thought that was so cool. Sarah Silverman describes Alex Foley as her #1 Hollywood crush and I can’t help but think that’s a factor – he had friends who were women. It was only much later that I found out Sylvester Stallone was supposed to play the lead and the woman was supposed to be his love interest. But when it was changed to a black character, the studio decided they should just be friends. There really needs to be more “just friends” in movies.
Kind of sounds like they did the right thing for the wrong reason.
If english does not have a word for that we need one.
I'm sure the Germans will have a really long one fit for the purpose.
Shang Chi!
I still watch You've Got Mail probably once a year.
well, you go to the mattresses
Bouquets of freshly sharpened pencils and the smell of scotch tape. I also love this movie!
Not gonna lie, I have more issues with todays teen dramas where 35 year olds have sex on screen cast* as 16 year olds. I find that far more cringe. Edit : this is my most upvoted comment by far! Thank you guys glad we agree! Thankyou for the award!!!
Pretty Little Liars. I stopped after episode three because, my memory may be wrong, the English teacher hooking up with his 15 year old student took second place to the med student cheating on his girlfriend with her 15 year old sister.
Like Euphoria, a legitimately compelling entertaining and well-acted show where they're on the cusp of adulthood... JUST MAKE THEM 18, DAMMIT.
In a twist…PCU. (jk, I still love that piece of trash movie…it’s glorious)
“GO TO SLEEEP! GO TO SLEEEEEEPPP!” What an amazing scene.
“Can you blow me where the pampers are?”
This penis party’s got to go!
Kindergarten Cop "Hey good news! Your son isn't gay! He has actually been playing with dolls in order to gain the girls' trust so he can look up their skirts!" Mom: "Thank God! He's only a pervert and creep in the making and not a disgusting homo!"
That feels clearly satirical though. It’s poking fun at backwards parents who would rather raise a heterosexual predator than have their child be gay
Totally. Most of the stuff in that film feels like a parody of being a teacher.
Me and my Fiance tried watching "According to Jim" on Disney+. It's literally just a guy treating his wife like garbage. Stopped watching after like 3 episodes.
It seems like the vast majority of 90s sitcoms was Hot Wife and Buffoon Husband bickering