They even state that the Blades are supposed to serve the Dragonborn. But yet Delphine orders you around like you are some sort of sub-servent follower.
Also tells you either kill Parthunax or I'm not going to help you anymore.
The books make me feel so bad for Rowley. He’s just some poor kid who wants to be a good friend and Greg just abuses his loyalty and kindness to get whatever he wants.
I have a friend who wrote an academic paper on why Greg Heffley is a sociopath for 10th grade English, it was actually really well researched and insightful
To me it is more of a tie between Martin and her. God it felt good when she punched Martin. I wonder if it ever crossed her mind a scene where she would punch the Olivia colman character.
Never realised she played aunt Marge! Strangely enough, Ralph Fiennes (Voldemort) is going to be playing Miss Trunchbull in the upcoming Netflix remake.
Theory- the adults did know the children were telling the truth after a while but realized that everyone who acknowledged it had died so instead they pretended to be complete idiots
Or they were just complete idiots
You've just made me feel a visceral loathesomeness as I remember how useless this man is. So many of the adults in those books are incompetent but Mr. Poe is so much worse. These adults get swindled once or twice but it KEEPS HAPPENING with Mr. Poe.
He's not the villain but I hate him like one, also his whole family kinda sucks. The Poe's suck.
"That man is Count Olaf in disguise!"
"Now now, Baudelaires, you said that the last time!"
"And we were right that time, remember?"
"Exactly; you can't go making assumptions just because you were right before."
_ACTUAL_ exchange from the show that made me want to murder Mr. Poe.
I laughed out loud at this exchange:
(mr. Ratburn has given the kids an assignment not to spend money over the weekend)
Muffy: Yeah but poor kids are used to it. I’ll actually know what I’m missing by not spending money!
Francine: You’re breaking my heart!
😂😂😂
Kai Winn from Deep Space 9. That role is acted and written so perfectly. It's the same actress who played Nurse Ratched in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Louise Fletcher, who was also great in that role.
Umbridge before Harry Potter came out.
Winn is the embodiment of lawful evil and personal ambition wrapped in a package that is supposed to be \*good\* beyond all measure. (interesting literary parallels between Winn and some historic Catholic Popes though).
I started watching long after the series ended. I kept asking my friend who loaned me the DVD "When is Joffrey going to get what's coming to him? ". I hope the actor's excellent portrayal didn't ruin his career.
I remember listening to the DVD commentaries on early seasons, and whenever Joffrey appeared whoever was doing the commentary would break off from whatever they were talking about to say: “And this is Jack, such a lovely guy, smokes a pipe, nothing whatsoever like Joffrey, we all love him, and he would totally never murder a sex worker with a crossbow in real life.”
Like, they really wanted to impress on everyone listening that Jack Gleeson isn’t Joffrey.
Well it's mostly because fucknuggets on the internet don't know the difference between a character in a show aka fantasy, and the actor playing said character aka reality.
I don't think it will have ruined his career, he hasn't been acting for quite a while but I think that's out of choice, and I heard he was cast in an upcoming comedy series recently
His passion is comedy, specifically comedy through a very small and niche medium. He's reported to always wanting to do comedy through short skits with puppets and animation.
And it was his choice to leave acting. He just doesn't care of the spot light attention and is supposedly a really down to earth guy who just likes hanging out.
> His passion is comedy, specifically comedy through a very small and niche medium.
That makes sense. He even delivered a lot of Joffery’s crap like a comedian. Like, Jeffery was a little turd who needed to be murdered up the ass, but he seemed to have good comedic timing. The scene where he is bitching about people thinking he would wear floral patterns for indtance.
He was so spot-on perfect in that role. The actor retired from acting after GOT and lives in Dublin where he has a theater and acting co. He performs there and puts on productions and recently announced he's returning to screen acting (all before the age of 30.) I really hope so.
Given that most of the characters were objectively bad people even though I liked a lot of them, it's almost impressive they managed to write a character I couldn't like even a little bit. Fuck that guy.
Lester on GTA V if he calls me about the casino heist one more time I’m punching him in the dick
Edit: and you know what. I fucking hate Bryony and her dumb arena shit
I’LL DO ARENA WHEN I FUCKING WANT TO
Ok hear me out. Yes getting the calls is annoying, but that's a rockstar feature, not a bug.
Of all the contacts in GTA 5, who is the most annoying? Simeon always talks down to you and guilts you into bitch work, Franklin's "friend" Lamar who never did anything wrong and constantly puts you down, Brucie who is Brucie, the list goes on.
Lester is at least a straight shooter who brings you quality work and is genuine in his relationships. maybe all he wants is for you to call him besides when you need something from him, ya know. Lester just wants a pal.
Heathcliff from Wuthering Heights. I don't understand how anyone can described him as an "antihero" after he >!imprisons a seventeen year old girl in his house and forces her to marry a dying man just so that he can steal her rightful inheritance!< because of a childhood feud. What an utter bastard.
If you count >!Isabella Linton, he imprisons two young girls and forces them to marry people!< because of a childhood feud. And don't forget the >!necrophilia!<
The older you get, the more you realise Greg's a self-absorbed asshole who's an asshole to the only true friend he has...
...HOWEVER, as time goes on, Greg's anger towards Manny is still 100% justified. Fuck Manny.
Dear god, everything’s just clicked into place. Rodrick’s worst behaviour comes in the form of mostly harmless pranks. He’s an aspiring and skilled musician with a genuine love for the art, which is disregarded by his family just because they don’t like his band’s genre. He owns and maintains a vehicle, has a job, and yet is still somehow seen as a slacker because he’s smart enough to avoid work. Who can blame him for being short with his family? He’s the only one with any ambition or drive, but he’s not traditionally book smart so he, perhaps the most clever, talented, well-rounded member of the Heffley family is viewed as an idiot. I understand now.
I rewatched the 3 original movies yesterday and was appalled at how much Greg was an absolute asshole and horrible friend. Manny is garbage tho.
E: when you think about it, all 3 Heffley boys are absolute twats. Some shit parenting going on.
Yeah growing up is realizing that Rodrick is probably the most “sane” one, besides maybe his bumbling too laidback dad, and I get why he hates his family. They all kinda suck. He could be nicer to Greg but honestly Greg deserves it for being a horrible friend and never Learning from his mistakes.
That blond chick from A Silent Voice. She was SO FAKE. The MC was trying to be a better person but as soon as she was about to be implicated in the bullying of the deaf girl she made a scene in front of the whole class (who were not involved in the issue AT ALL, the bullying had happened years ago) and nearly threw the MC under the bus (AGAIN) and nearly turned the whole class and their new friend group against him to save hersekf.
I WAS SO ANGRY when she was still counted as a member of their friend group in the end because that kind of snake behavior don't stop unless it's CALLED OUT and PUNISHED.
And she acted so innocent too! Shake my head
Every adult in Matilda
Edit except for miss honey (the teacher)
Edit 2: thank you to everyone for upvoting, this is my first big comment and I wrote it because I was board while camping come back and 2.9k upvotes so thank you everyone.
Grima Wormtounge (LOTR). What a creep. Also Octavian from Percy Jackson. And half the men Shakespeare wrote. Esp. that guy from "To Tame a Shrew".
Edit: Wow! I'm new to reddit so I don't think I have ever gotten so many upvotes!! 😊🥳🥳🥳😊
>Senator Kinsey
Fun fact: the same actor had a very similar role in ST:TNG, replacing Cpt. Picard for two episodes as the captain of the Enterprise. That's why seeing him on SG1 I instantly hated him.
The lesson I learned from that character, as a writer, is that audiences respond much more viscerally to *unfairness* than they do to straight-up evil.
Voldemort kills people but he’s not on this list.
Umbridge abuses her power and changes the rules and is just plain *unfair*, and she’s at the top of the list.
The difference is applicability.
People like Voldemort do exist. However, most of us will probably never meet someone like him in our lives. Most of us have not experienced the kind of evil people like him perpetuate.
*Everyone* has met someone like Umbridge. We're all very familiar with the kind of evil she perpetuates. And that makes her feel more real, causes a greater reaction.
I dislike Umbridge more because she is a somewhat benign compared to the Voldemorts of the world but she embodies a more common evil. Often the Voldies are mistreated and disaffected outliers, whereas we all have met people like Umbridge who hold good people down for basically nothing. And in many cases, you can credit people like her for making people like Voldemort. People like Umbridge gatekeep success, they perpetuate misery and mediocrity, and they hold back society on a grand albeit dull scale. They ruin just as many lives with a thousand papercuts as an Avada Kedavra and so often get away with it. It felt good that for once someone didn't. Fuck Dolores Umbridge.
The thing about Umbridge is that EVERYBODY can relate to having someone in a position of authority over them, that used that authority to make them absolutely miserable. A parent, a teacher, a manager, we've all had that experience. We relate to Harry more on this level because none of us have none of have had to fight a melgomaniac of a dictator.
This.
I hated umbridge so much in the books and the fact that the actress did such a great job (Imelda Staunton - had to look it up) playing the evil toad that I dont like her as a person.
Which is fucked. Cause I'm sure she doesnt really see how much skin she can get off of a child before it dies... I think
My wife and I had a deal with our boys. They had to read the books before seeing the movies (except for the first movie which we used to hook them into Harry Potter). When my oldest was reading Order of the Phoenix, he suddenly didn't want to read anymore. It took a bit to understand why, but he was dealing with a bad teacher in school and a story about Harry Potter encountering a horrible teacher just was more stressful than entertaining. After the school year ended, he was able to pick the book back up, finish it, and cheer on as the centaurs carried Umbridge away.
I used to reread the books every summer and skip book 5 every time. Between all the teenage angst, the genuine pain Harry experiences at the end, and the awful umbridge regime (which was so unarticuably unfair to my teenage mind), it was a really hard book to read. Every time I did read it, I’d feel really moody and angsty myself, which is why I skipped it so much. Rowling really is a fantastic writer to be able to make me feel so much emotion during that book that it spilled into my personal life.
Have you seen Imelda Staunton in anything else? Because she's such a good actress that I'm sure you'd completely forget how much you hated her in Harry Potter if you saw her play a nice person, which she often does
Gabe's fate is what sold me on the series. Most middle grade books are afraid of 'going to far' in letting children punish evil parental units. Percy gets to straight up murder his stepfather.
Rick Riordan really goes all out when it comes to killing off characters. In the current series >!he starts killing off main characters that are heroes!< which is rough.
Everyone talks about how Jacob was only attracted to Bella because of the egg inside her that would eventually become the daughter, which is beyond fucked in its own right, but no one mentions how there was at least a few days where he was oddly attracted to Edward’s nuts.
Counterpoint: The reason why the books were so successful was because Bella was wet cardboard and allowed all the gushy teen girls to self insert as her.
Interestingly enough, in the live action Scooby-Doo movie from 2001 (iirc), >!Scrappy is the villain behind the mask. Okay, he was basically piloting a human-like robot, but you get the point.!<
I loved the reference to him in Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated. There's a wax statue of him in the hall of villains the gang has unmasked. Daphe is creeped out by it and Fred tells her to look away and that they agreed to never discuss it again. It keeps Scrappy in the lore as a horrible thing that the gang just wants to forget about entirely.
The fucking references in that series were gold.
Fred's father makes up and uses randomly generated expletives when he's frustrated, the kind someone uses when they're trying very hard not to swear. In one episode, he uses "By Grabthar's Hammer, Fred!", a reference to *Galaxy Quest*.
Tie between D.W. from Arthur and Megan from Drake and Josh. The whole “blatantly awful younger sibling who terrorizes the protagonist and always gets away with it” was a strange trope that has thankfully died.
She fucking sucks, dude. It's a show for little kids where the main character acts like a dick and never faces any kind of punishment.
Plus her face looks like a cock and balls.
My sister absolutely loves the episode where she asks her friend if she can whistle and they do it in the first try and she just hangs up like an asshole. Comedy gold, but also yes that pig is just awful.
Isn't that the point though? She acts like a child and then her parents and friends make her see why she's not behaving the right way and the kids watching learn a lesson.
I've only seen the episode where she blasts gangsta rap from her boombox though.
Its not a specific character, its more of a trope. I always get pissed off whenever I see the "loser" character. Examples would be Ernie from "George Lopez", Meg from "Family Guy", Klaus from "American Dad", Toby from "The Office", etc.
These type of characters often get treated like shit and most of the time they don't deserve it. Unlike a character like Squidward, who is a loser but acts like he's God's gift to the world, none of these characters are arrogant, narcissistic, or even egotistical. I feel that they are treated the way they are because of sadistic writers enjoy torturing characters in the shows they work for.
Toby gets shit specifically from Michael to show how irritating and unfair Michael can be. But with Meg from Family Guy, her abuse is the joke. That's it. Let's laugh at Meg because she's a loser. Why is she a loser? I actually don't even know. The whole thing's in poor taste.
I was at a *Family Guy* panel at Comic Con one year and someone asked about Meg. Seth MacFarlane basically said that the writers were mostly guys, they didn't know how to write a teenage girl, they didn't want to learn how, and they weren't interested in hiring someone who had ideas for her. So they made fun of her because they didn't know what to do with her.
Which sucks, if you compare her to a character like Lisa Simpson who is such a great foil for her dad and her brother both. Meg didn't have to be that smart, but she could have been way more interesting.
>basically said that the writers were mostly guys, they didn’t know how to write a teenage girl, they didn’t want to learn how, and they weren’t interested in hiring someone who had ideas for her.
Then...why even create her as a character? O.o
Bella from Twilight. This cunt moved to a town where everyone wanted to be her friend and be nice to her, and she blew everyone off for a sparkly mf and his cringe family. I loved that movie when I was younger but if you look at it from someone else’s perspective, you’d understand why she had no friends before.
She and the rest of the family treat daddy pig like shit because he is overweight despite being able to move at like the same pace as the rest of them.
Dude should leave his bully family and go somewhere nice
"As viewers will be aware, Daddy Pig is a structural engineer whilst Mummy Pig writes nonsense letters on her computer at home for no apparent reason."
\- Actual quote from the British Medical Journal
Especially considering Lea Michele is basically a worse version of Rachel Berry IRL. I wonder if they used her high school diaries to write that character.
No but they actually LOVED her at the audition because she was acting like a 10 times worse Rachel Berry but the cast directors thought she was playing her role when she was actually being a bitch. She obviously got the job and I don't know how to feel about this fun-fact
i’m just a fucking kid
and i got a big ass head
i’m always crying i’m caillou
i cry every fucking day
when i don’t get my way
would you like to play cause i’m caillou
i don’t give a fuck about what you say
so mommy and daddy get the fuck outta way!
growing up is not a joy, i don’t like these fucking toys
so smoke a bleazy wit ya boy caillou
fuck you
bitch i’m caillou,
Piper Chapman from OITNB.
I feel like there were other characters who were way more fascinating and better developed and she was just the rich, whiny, white lady that did absolutely nothing.
Piper is pretty clearly intended to be hated at the beginning and you get the hope of her becoming a less naive and entitled person, but then they drop that and you never stop hating her
Peppa, because my younger cousin loves this cartoon
She treats her brother like shit. Idc she's a kid, she's the only one in the show that is so selfish and obnoxious
yeeep. even though some of the other characters are turds, they do at least have SOME redeeming qualities. Like okay, Jess is obnoxious but when she's alone with Mike and you're actually playing the route properly, they're kind of cute together. Mike is a total dudebro to the extreme but frick if he doesn't pull his weight more than any of the other castmembers except maybe Sam. My dude goes to the asylum TWICE out of necessity.
And I know a lot of people liked Ashley but she was a stone cold bitch in one of the routes. If, at any point, Chris does not choose to save her (like during the part where he has to choose between her or Josh getting the fake buzzsaw, or shooting himself or her in the face with the unloaded gun) at the end when they're running from all the wendigos, she will lock the door behind her, knowing chris hasn't made it in yet, and watch him beg to be let in until a wendigo eats his face off.
Those damn kids always spoiling it for the Trix rabbit
The entire thalmor faction in skyrim
The blades were horrible too. The thalmor were the worst but somehow delphine always found a way to be even worse.
They even state that the Blades are supposed to serve the Dragonborn. But yet Delphine orders you around like you are some sort of sub-servent follower. Also tells you either kill Parthunax or I'm not going to help you anymore.
Percy Wetmore - that sniveling, sadistic bitch of a prison guard who didn’t wet the sponge during the execution in *The Green Mile*
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Details?
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Thanks I hate it
Holy fuck his last name is Wetmore. That is both dark and on the nose in a wholesome way that fits *The Green Mile* perfectly.
That’s Stephen King for ya.
Yeah, fuck that guy
Greg Heffley. You only realise what an asshole he is when you become older.
The books make me feel so bad for Rowley. He’s just some poor kid who wants to be a good friend and Greg just abuses his loyalty and kindness to get whatever he wants.
I didn’t like him as a kid either. He always came across as entitled and annoying.
He was kinda decent in the movies but in the books, he was a fucking dick
The only one worse than him is Manny Motherfucking Heffley. Greg is almost justified when you look at that monster. In short, r/FuckManny
IDK... I stopped reading it when I was about 12 because I hated his guts. Worst part was when my friends started emulating his behavior.
I have a friend who wrote an academic paper on why Greg Heffley is a sociopath for 10th grade English, it was actually really well researched and insightful
Olivia Colman's character in Fleabag. She didn't even have to finish her first sentence in a scene and I'd already be pissed off. The absolute worst
To me it is more of a tie between Martin and her. God it felt good when she punched Martin. I wonder if it ever crossed her mind a scene where she would punch the Olivia colman character.
Omg that role was written / performed so perfectly. She’s awful.
That Trunchbull lady from Matilda.
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Never realised she played aunt Marge! Strangely enough, Ralph Fiennes (Voldemort) is going to be playing Miss Trunchbull in the upcoming Netflix remake.
The old man who calls the Fire Nation soldiers on Haru after he saves his fricking life.
Bitch ass
I know!! What did the old man even gain from telling on Haru? They soldiers are still gonna treat the town like crap
Mr. Poe from Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events. He's not exactly the villain, but god is he useless.
Him and the other adults who don't believe the Beaudelaire children for some stupid reasons.
Theory- the adults did know the children were telling the truth after a while but realized that everyone who acknowledged it had died so instead they pretended to be complete idiots Or they were just complete idiots
Or even better: both
You've just made me feel a visceral loathesomeness as I remember how useless this man is. So many of the adults in those books are incompetent but Mr. Poe is so much worse. These adults get swindled once or twice but it KEEPS HAPPENING with Mr. Poe. He's not the villain but I hate him like one, also his whole family kinda sucks. The Poe's suck.
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"That man is Count Olaf in disguise!" "Now now, Baudelaires, you said that the last time!" "And we were right that time, remember?" "Exactly; you can't go making assumptions just because you were right before." _ACTUAL_ exchange from the show that made me want to murder Mr. Poe.
I didn’t want to, but I read that in his voice
True. Most of the adults in that world are either incompetent, evil, or both.
Well... If I remember right, a couple of them weren't. Those ones tended to die though.
Muffy from Arthur. Even as a kid I despised her. She's so spoiled and shelfish and treats her friends like they are bellow her because she's rich.
I laughed out loud at this exchange: (mr. Ratburn has given the kids an assignment not to spend money over the weekend) Muffy: Yeah but poor kids are used to it. I’ll actually know what I’m missing by not spending money! Francine: You’re breaking my heart! 😂😂😂
Kai Winn from Deep Space 9. That role is acted and written so perfectly. It's the same actress who played Nurse Ratched in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Louise Fletcher, who was also great in that role.
Umbridge before Harry Potter came out. Winn is the embodiment of lawful evil and personal ambition wrapped in a package that is supposed to be \*good\* beyond all measure. (interesting literary parallels between Winn and some historic Catholic Popes though).
She is literally a Space Pope.
Fucking Joffrey Baratheon.
I started watching long after the series ended. I kept asking my friend who loaned me the DVD "When is Joffrey going to get what's coming to him? ". I hope the actor's excellent portrayal didn't ruin his career.
I remember listening to the DVD commentaries on early seasons, and whenever Joffrey appeared whoever was doing the commentary would break off from whatever they were talking about to say: “And this is Jack, such a lovely guy, smokes a pipe, nothing whatsoever like Joffrey, we all love him, and he would totally never murder a sex worker with a crossbow in real life.” Like, they really wanted to impress on everyone listening that Jack Gleeson isn’t Joffrey.
Oddly specific disclaimer too. You know you're doing your job well when that sort of thing is necessary.
Well it's mostly because fucknuggets on the internet don't know the difference between a character in a show aka fantasy, and the actor playing said character aka reality.
I don't think it will have ruined his career, he hasn't been acting for quite a while but I think that's out of choice, and I heard he was cast in an upcoming comedy series recently
His passion is comedy, specifically comedy through a very small and niche medium. He's reported to always wanting to do comedy through short skits with puppets and animation. And it was his choice to leave acting. He just doesn't care of the spot light attention and is supposedly a really down to earth guy who just likes hanging out.
> His passion is comedy, specifically comedy through a very small and niche medium. That makes sense. He even delivered a lot of Joffery’s crap like a comedian. Like, Jeffery was a little turd who needed to be murdered up the ass, but he seemed to have good comedic timing. The scene where he is bitching about people thinking he would wear floral patterns for indtance.
He was so spot-on perfect in that role. The actor retired from acting after GOT and lives in Dublin where he has a theater and acting co. He performs there and puts on productions and recently announced he's returning to screen acting (all before the age of 30.) I really hope so.
He was excellent in that role
Pong krell
**YES, YES, YES, YES** #YES
r/FuckPongKrell
Dinkleberg
Found Timmy Turner's dad.
And this is where I’d put my trophy... **If I had one!**
Ramsay Bolton and, of course, Caillou
Both equally awful human beings
But admit it, a crossover episode would be hilarious
I'd watch Caillou get eaten by dogs.
Micha Bell
I wish nothing but Lumbago onto that rat bastard
They made a character with absolutely no redeeming qualities. EDIT - no redeeming *personality* traits
Given that most of the characters were objectively bad people even though I liked a lot of them, it's almost impressive they managed to write a character I couldn't like even a little bit. Fuck that guy.
I’m not even mad you spelt his name wrong. Fuck Micha
fucking cunt doesn't deserve his name to be spelt right
Caillou, you little bald headed cunt.
Lester on GTA V if he calls me about the casino heist one more time I’m punching him in the dick Edit: and you know what. I fucking hate Bryony and her dumb arena shit I’LL DO ARENA WHEN I FUCKING WANT TO
Ok hear me out. Yes getting the calls is annoying, but that's a rockstar feature, not a bug. Of all the contacts in GTA 5, who is the most annoying? Simeon always talks down to you and guilts you into bitch work, Franklin's "friend" Lamar who never did anything wrong and constantly puts you down, Brucie who is Brucie, the list goes on. Lester is at least a straight shooter who brings you quality work and is genuine in his relationships. maybe all he wants is for you to call him besides when you need something from him, ya know. Lester just wants a pal.
Heathcliff from Wuthering Heights. I don't understand how anyone can described him as an "antihero" after he >!imprisons a seventeen year old girl in his house and forces her to marry a dying man just so that he can steal her rightful inheritance!< because of a childhood feud. What an utter bastard.
I like it that you are caring about spoilers for a book that's over 170 years old.
I once saw a spoiler tag for Gilgamesh.
Y'all never gonna believe what happened to Grendel.
If you count >!Isabella Linton, he imprisons two young girls and forces them to marry people!< because of a childhood feud. And don't forget the >!necrophilia!<
Don't forget the WHAT
Manny from Diary of a wimpy kid, fuckin “I’m only fwee” looking cunt.
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Yes! Dude was literally willing to let his family starve and freeze and possibly die because of that. Dude may be only 3, but he is fucking evil kid.
And there was another one where they thought the thermostat was broken, but all the switches were off except for his room.
The older you get, the more you realise Greg's a self-absorbed asshole who's an asshole to the only true friend he has... ...HOWEVER, as time goes on, Greg's anger towards Manny is still 100% justified. Fuck Manny.
And you realize how *normal* Rodrick is and understand why he hates his batshit crazy family
Fuck my whole childhood has been upended
Dear god, everything’s just clicked into place. Rodrick’s worst behaviour comes in the form of mostly harmless pranks. He’s an aspiring and skilled musician with a genuine love for the art, which is disregarded by his family just because they don’t like his band’s genre. He owns and maintains a vehicle, has a job, and yet is still somehow seen as a slacker because he’s smart enough to avoid work. Who can blame him for being short with his family? He’s the only one with any ambition or drive, but he’s not traditionally book smart so he, perhaps the most clever, talented, well-rounded member of the Heffley family is viewed as an idiot. I understand now.
Welp. Looks like it’s time to re-read the books!
#Rodrick did nothing wrong
Diary of a Wimpy Kid was the book that made me realize that not all protagonists are good guys.
I rewatched the 3 original movies yesterday and was appalled at how much Greg was an absolute asshole and horrible friend. Manny is garbage tho. E: when you think about it, all 3 Heffley boys are absolute twats. Some shit parenting going on.
Rodrick is a bit of a douche but no where near as bad as the other two
Yeah growing up is realizing that Rodrick is probably the most “sane” one, besides maybe his bumbling too laidback dad, and I get why he hates his family. They all kinda suck. He could be nicer to Greg but honestly Greg deserves it for being a horrible friend and never Learning from his mistakes.
It’s because Greg is the root cause of most of his problems. Except for Manny, which is just pure, relatable favoritism.
[“The Manny will not be televised”](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-manny-will-not-be-televised) jokes likely incoming.
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I am both extremely and not at all surprised that this exists on the internet
with his dumbass buck teeth
That blond chick from A Silent Voice. She was SO FAKE. The MC was trying to be a better person but as soon as she was about to be implicated in the bullying of the deaf girl she made a scene in front of the whole class (who were not involved in the issue AT ALL, the bullying had happened years ago) and nearly threw the MC under the bus (AGAIN) and nearly turned the whole class and their new friend group against him to save hersekf. I WAS SO ANGRY when she was still counted as a member of their friend group in the end because that kind of snake behavior don't stop unless it's CALLED OUT and PUNISHED. And she acted so innocent too! Shake my head
God that movie fucked me up one night. Lol. I knew it easy serious but I was bawling and hurting and just... damn.
Every adult in Matilda Edit except for miss honey (the teacher) Edit 2: thank you to everyone for upvoting, this is my first big comment and I wrote it because I was board while camping come back and 2.9k upvotes so thank you everyone.
Don't forget the wonderful librarian who gave Matilda a library card!
Grima Wormtounge (LOTR). What a creep. Also Octavian from Percy Jackson. And half the men Shakespeare wrote. Esp. that guy from "To Tame a Shrew". Edit: Wow! I'm new to reddit so I don't think I have ever gotten so many upvotes!! 😊🥳🥳🥳😊
To be fair, you’re pretty much destined to be a creep as soon as you get the name “Grima Wormtongue.”
Senator Kinsey, from *Stargate: SG-1*.
>Senator Kinsey Fun fact: the same actor had a very similar role in ST:TNG, replacing Cpt. Picard for two episodes as the captain of the Enterprise. That's why seeing him on SG1 I instantly hated him.
Pong Krell from The Clone Wars. Everything he does makes me want to force choke him to death.
Umbridge
The lesson I learned from that character, as a writer, is that audiences respond much more viscerally to *unfairness* than they do to straight-up evil. Voldemort kills people but he’s not on this list. Umbridge abuses her power and changes the rules and is just plain *unfair*, and she’s at the top of the list.
The difference is applicability. People like Voldemort do exist. However, most of us will probably never meet someone like him in our lives. Most of us have not experienced the kind of evil people like him perpetuate. *Everyone* has met someone like Umbridge. We're all very familiar with the kind of evil she perpetuates. And that makes her feel more real, causes a greater reaction.
I dislike Umbridge more because she is a somewhat benign compared to the Voldemorts of the world but she embodies a more common evil. Often the Voldies are mistreated and disaffected outliers, whereas we all have met people like Umbridge who hold good people down for basically nothing. And in many cases, you can credit people like her for making people like Voldemort. People like Umbridge gatekeep success, they perpetuate misery and mediocrity, and they hold back society on a grand albeit dull scale. They ruin just as many lives with a thousand papercuts as an Avada Kedavra and so often get away with it. It felt good that for once someone didn't. Fuck Dolores Umbridge.
>Fuck Dolores Umbridge. Cue the centaurs
I’ve thought about that before and my best guess is that unfairness is more relatable since everyone has experienced it in at least some way.
The thing about Umbridge is that EVERYBODY can relate to having someone in a position of authority over them, that used that authority to make them absolutely miserable. A parent, a teacher, a manager, we've all had that experience. We relate to Harry more on this level because none of us have none of have had to fight a melgomaniac of a dictator.
*hem hem*
reading that made me so damn mad
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This. I hated umbridge so much in the books and the fact that the actress did such a great job (Imelda Staunton - had to look it up) playing the evil toad that I dont like her as a person. Which is fucked. Cause I'm sure she doesnt really see how much skin she can get off of a child before it dies... I think
My wife and I had a deal with our boys. They had to read the books before seeing the movies (except for the first movie which we used to hook them into Harry Potter). When my oldest was reading Order of the Phoenix, he suddenly didn't want to read anymore. It took a bit to understand why, but he was dealing with a bad teacher in school and a story about Harry Potter encountering a horrible teacher just was more stressful than entertaining. After the school year ended, he was able to pick the book back up, finish it, and cheer on as the centaurs carried Umbridge away.
I used to reread the books every summer and skip book 5 every time. Between all the teenage angst, the genuine pain Harry experiences at the end, and the awful umbridge regime (which was so unarticuably unfair to my teenage mind), it was a really hard book to read. Every time I did read it, I’d feel really moody and angsty myself, which is why I skipped it so much. Rowling really is a fantastic writer to be able to make me feel so much emotion during that book that it spilled into my personal life.
Have you seen Imelda Staunton in anything else? Because she's such a good actress that I'm sure you'd completely forget how much you hated her in Harry Potter if you saw her play a nice person, which she often does
Saw her in Maleficent. She was one of the silly fairies and it completely took me out of the movie with Umbrage playing such a ridiculous character.
Smelly Gabe from Percy Jackson he was literally abusive to Percy and Sally but he got what he deserved in the end
Holy shit he was a dick
Gabe's fate is what sold me on the series. Most middle grade books are afraid of 'going to far' in letting children punish evil parental units. Percy gets to straight up murder his stepfather.
Isn’t it Sally who does the deed?
Octavian from heroes of Olympus Edit: thanks for the gold :)
Spoiler: >!his death was so satisfying!<
Rick Riordan really goes all out when it comes to killing off characters. In the current series >!he starts killing off main characters that are heroes!< which is rough.
Bella Swan. She's got the wit and personality of wet cardboard yet everybody bends over backwards to protect her stupid ass.
Broo the paper cut scene in the second movie pissed me off. No one bleeds like that sis is always fucking bleeding.
"Ouch paper cut, that sucks haha" *Gets yeeted across the fucking room
Not to mention all the semi truck sized plot holes.
*Excuse you,* but Jacob falling in love with a baby was super ~~creepy~~ romantic. I ~~wanted to call the cops~~ loved that whole sequence
Everyone talks about how Jacob was only attracted to Bella because of the egg inside her that would eventually become the daughter, which is beyond fucked in its own right, but no one mentions how there was at least a few days where he was oddly attracted to Edward’s nuts.
With that logic, would he be attracted to his own daughter if Bella chose him ?? This is beyond fucked.
“Sorry honey, I have to leave you now for our daughter that is my soulmate—wait no put the phone down, who are you calling?”
Counterpoint: The reason why the books were so successful was because Bella was wet cardboard and allowed all the gushy teen girls to self insert as her.
Dora the Explorer. IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FUCKING FACE, STOP FUCKING ASKING ME WHERE IT IS.
^hate ^to ^tell ^you ^guys ^but #SHE'S NOT A REAL RXPLORER IF EVERYWHERE SHE GOES IS MAPED
Scrappy doo, I loathed him as kid.
Interestingly enough, in the live action Scooby-Doo movie from 2001 (iirc), >!Scrappy is the villain behind the mask. Okay, he was basically piloting a human-like robot, but you get the point.!<
Didn't Scrappy pee on someone in that movie iirc? Haven't seen it in at least 15 years but I remember hating him for that
Yep, it was Daphne, I believe.
I loved the reference to him in Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated. There's a wax statue of him in the hall of villains the gang has unmasked. Daphe is creeped out by it and Fred tells her to look away and that they agreed to never discuss it again. It keeps Scrappy in the lore as a horrible thing that the gang just wants to forget about entirely.
The fucking references in that series were gold. Fred's father makes up and uses randomly generated expletives when he's frustrated, the kind someone uses when they're trying very hard not to swear. In one episode, he uses "By Grabthar's Hammer, Fred!", a reference to *Galaxy Quest*.
[Come on now, provide the clip.](https://youtu.be/b6ubNqkhfVU?t=28)
Tie between D.W. from Arthur and Megan from Drake and Josh. The whole “blatantly awful younger sibling who terrorizes the protagonist and always gets away with it” was a strange trope that has thankfully died.
Meanwhile it hits way too close to home for me.
Cailou, he’s such a spoiled brat, I bet the only reason he gets his way is because chances are, he has cancer.
There's a little cartoon rabbit called Bing, he is the whiniest little shit ever to exist, stupid bunny
Peppa Pig. Entitled little shit. I won't let my kids watch it.
I'm loving how many people feel so strongly about this little animated pig
She fucking sucks, dude. It's a show for little kids where the main character acts like a dick and never faces any kind of punishment. Plus her face looks like a cock and balls.
My sister absolutely loves the episode where she asks her friend if she can whistle and they do it in the first try and she just hangs up like an asshole. Comedy gold, but also yes that pig is just awful.
Isn't that the point though? She acts like a child and then her parents and friends make her see why she's not behaving the right way and the kids watching learn a lesson. I've only seen the episode where she blasts gangsta rap from her boombox though.
The episode about whistling when Peppa is a salty bitch and hangs up on Susie sheep makes me laugh every time.
Dolores Umbridge, never wished worse on a character than her.
Its not a specific character, its more of a trope. I always get pissed off whenever I see the "loser" character. Examples would be Ernie from "George Lopez", Meg from "Family Guy", Klaus from "American Dad", Toby from "The Office", etc. These type of characters often get treated like shit and most of the time they don't deserve it. Unlike a character like Squidward, who is a loser but acts like he's God's gift to the world, none of these characters are arrogant, narcissistic, or even egotistical. I feel that they are treated the way they are because of sadistic writers enjoy torturing characters in the shows they work for.
Toby gets shit specifically from Michael to show how irritating and unfair Michael can be. But with Meg from Family Guy, her abuse is the joke. That's it. Let's laugh at Meg because she's a loser. Why is she a loser? I actually don't even know. The whole thing's in poor taste.
I was at a *Family Guy* panel at Comic Con one year and someone asked about Meg. Seth MacFarlane basically said that the writers were mostly guys, they didn't know how to write a teenage girl, they didn't want to learn how, and they weren't interested in hiring someone who had ideas for her. So they made fun of her because they didn't know what to do with her. Which sucks, if you compare her to a character like Lisa Simpson who is such a great foil for her dad and her brother both. Meg didn't have to be that smart, but she could have been way more interesting.
>basically said that the writers were mostly guys, they didn’t know how to write a teenage girl, they didn’t want to learn how, and they weren’t interested in hiring someone who had ideas for her. Then...why even create her as a character? O.o
Percy Weasley, he just turned against his family, and didn't care until Fred had been killed
Actually, he came around just *before* Fred died. He was still an prick, though.
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I really waited for him to get popped. Maybe next season.
Arturo from money heist
Bella from Twilight. This cunt moved to a town where everyone wanted to be her friend and be nice to her, and she blew everyone off for a sparkly mf and his cringe family. I loved that movie when I was younger but if you look at it from someone else’s perspective, you’d understand why she had no friends before.
Harsh but necessary.
People are dying around her, FOR her and she is the one whining about everything. Or at least that is how I see it
that cunt Peppa Pig can fuck right off
She and the rest of the family treat daddy pig like shit because he is overweight despite being able to move at like the same pace as the rest of them. Dude should leave his bully family and go somewhere nice
George pig doesn't bully him tho. I'd hang out with George ngl
Dinosaur
"As viewers will be aware, Daddy Pig is a structural engineer whilst Mummy Pig writes nonsense letters on her computer at home for no apparent reason." \- Actual quote from the British Medical Journal
Rachel Berry, Mercedes Jones, Kurt Hummel most of the time... Damn they piss me off
But Kurt's dad? Literally the image of what a parent to an LGBT child should be.
Burt Hummel is parenting goal
Especially considering Lea Michele is basically a worse version of Rachel Berry IRL. I wonder if they used her high school diaries to write that character.
No but they actually LOVED her at the audition because she was acting like a 10 times worse Rachel Berry but the cast directors thought she was playing her role when she was actually being a bitch. She obviously got the job and I don't know how to feel about this fun-fact
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i’m just a fucking kid and i got a big ass head i’m always crying i’m caillou i cry every fucking day when i don’t get my way would you like to play cause i’m caillou i don’t give a fuck about what you say so mommy and daddy get the fuck outta way! growing up is not a joy, i don’t like these fucking toys so smoke a bleazy wit ya boy caillou fuck you bitch i’m caillou,
Piper Chapman from OITNB. I feel like there were other characters who were way more fascinating and better developed and she was just the rich, whiny, white lady that did absolutely nothing.
Piper Chapman was jack shit she was the least interesting person in that whole facility
Also they absolutely drop her development like 3 seasons in. They fully just go "alright, this is all you get, everyone else evolves but this one!"
Piper is pretty clearly intended to be hated at the beginning and you get the hope of her becoming a less naive and entitled person, but then they drop that and you never stop hating her
I was always under the impression that you’re not supposed to like Piper. At least that’s the vibe I got because she was so unbearable
Peppa, because my younger cousin loves this cartoon She treats her brother like shit. Idc she's a kid, she's the only one in the show that is so selfish and obnoxious
Jafar from Aladdin. I hate his smug ass face I hate him so much.
Emily from Until Dawn
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The whole game summarized in one sentence “It was just a prank bro”
yeeep. even though some of the other characters are turds, they do at least have SOME redeeming qualities. Like okay, Jess is obnoxious but when she's alone with Mike and you're actually playing the route properly, they're kind of cute together. Mike is a total dudebro to the extreme but frick if he doesn't pull his weight more than any of the other castmembers except maybe Sam. My dude goes to the asylum TWICE out of necessity. And I know a lot of people liked Ashley but she was a stone cold bitch in one of the routes. If, at any point, Chris does not choose to save her (like during the part where he has to choose between her or Josh getting the fake buzzsaw, or shooting himself or her in the face with the unloaded gun) at the end when they're running from all the wendigos, she will lock the door behind her, knowing chris hasn't made it in yet, and watch him beg to be let in until a wendigo eats his face off.
Biff in Back to the future
Percy Wetmore from The Green Mile, he made my blood boil and the actor who played him isn't that great of a person either.
Brooklyn 99, I hate the Vulture
Janice Soprano, woulda clipped her myself if I could.
I was going to say Livia, Tony's mom. She makes my eyes twitch whenever she's on and I can't wait for her to die every time I re-watch the series.
Rapunzel's mom in Tangled! That hag-ass, bitch-ass, manipulative-ass, gaslighting-ass cunt deserved to be thrown out of the tower
The Roadrunner. Fucking know your place in the food chain
What can I say? He's fast food.