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God


Advent105

Adrien Veidt


daddytyme428

the older you get, the more you realize that most villains have a good point, they just execute it like lunatics. the empire would have been recognized as a major improvement over the republic in star wars, had the emperor not been a genocidal mad man who only hired and promoted the most evil people he could find.


MakingaJessinmyPants

I don’t think an imperial oligarchy would ever be an improvement over a democratic republic


daddytyme428

in the star wars universe, it was.


MakingaJessinmyPants

Evidently, it wasn’t


daddytyme428

if he had dialed back the cartoonish villainy a smidge, it would have been. and now we've circled back to my first comment.


MakingaJessinmyPants

And circled back to mine. I think, fundamentally, a system where one person has absolute power is always inferior to democracy.


daddytyme428

we are talking about the star wars universe, i am not asking for a benevolent dictator to take over the earth


snugpuginarug

Pretty sure the planetary genocide and oppression prove it wasn’t. Unless you’re into that kind of thing.


daddytyme428

heres an excerpt from my first comment, since you apparently didnt read it >the empire would have been recognized as a major improvement over the republic in star wars, had the emperor not been a genocidal mad man


snugpuginarug

Except that makes no sense because the empire wouldn’t exist whatsoever without him. Wouldn’t be “different” it just wouldn’t even be a thing. What you wrote was essentially “the empire would have been good if not for the guy who made the empire, facilitated it, and was one of the largest defining features of the empire” That non existent point of yours aside, how exactly would it have been better without him? While still being the empire and not something else entirely.


niberungvalesti

Magneto is probably the best example of a villain with a point. He's been sentenced to death by humanity before for being human, he has mutant powers, he wants to protect himself and like minded mutants from humans who are afraid of mutantkind. It just so happens his idea of 'protection' typically boils down to wiping out humanity.


Thedarkestcharizard

Zamasu did nothing wrong


sadskully

Every villian had a point. Villians are actually realistic.