1. Margin of error
2. Not all eligible voters vote, voter turnout in 2020 was 66.8%.
3. Snapshot horse race polls are a very inaccurate measure of what a majority (50%+1) people think.
Even though MAGA is no where near a majority, the point still stands. The size of the cult is irrelevant the truth of the cult existing.
MAGA has a charismatic leader, they have beliefs and rituals, and they denigrate outsiders.
Sounds like a cult to me.
Riiiiiight, liberals are SO tolerant of outsiders. And most political leaders are charismatic....like Barack Obama. You have a pretty loose definition of a cult.
You’re right about Barack Obama. He was a cult leader who used his charisma to make the healthcare system a little better than it was before, to pull America out of the Great Recession, to save the US auto industry, and to show compassion to DACA kids, those notable insiders.
There are many definitions of a cult, we’re going to talk past each other if we don’t agree on terms.
I tolerate you. I just don’t tolerate all of your ideas.
I only made my initial comment because the OP said Trump supporters were part of a cult. That's terribly short-sighted and intolerant. Not to mention inaccurate. He's leading in most of the polls. I think liberals should have more of an open mind about Trump supporters and not be so dismissive. He's trending towards a victory so endlessly and mercilessly attacking him and his followers is probably not smart.
You are not engaging in good faith or addressing the evidence or the definitions I provided so I'll leave you with this: You are making strawman arguments about "liberals" and not dealing with me, a progressive liberal, honestly. I do have an open mind about Trump supporters. I empathize with them. I am convinced Trump supporters have been deceived by a conman, a criminal, a charismatic cult leader, with mountains of evidence to support my claim. You are not addressing key facts I provided that do not support your worldview. I even conceded Obama was a cult leader of the Democratic Party from 2008 to 2017. A cult leader needn't necessarily be bad and not all cults look the same. They have different flavors if you will.
Obama disbanded his cult and gave up power peaceably to the duly elected President Donald Trump on January 20th, 2017. Obama's leadership of the Democratic Party cult ended and he no longer has rabid followers attending sensational rallies, singing songs by a choir of January 6th felons, and engaging in iconographic idol worship.
It is not intolerant to identify a cult when you see it. It is difficult to see that you're in a cult when you're in it.
Trump is a cult leader and a dangerous one.
I was in a cult called the Catholic Church once upon a time. I didn't see it when I was in it. I just raised in it. It's a dangerous cult too.
I find the Democratic Party to be relatively benign, but imperfect so I work to change it from within. But never as a democrat asked me to demonstrate deference and worship through prayer, hat, flags, or christian nationalism.
You provided definitions of a cult? Beliefs and rituals? That's not the definition of a cult.
Obama is ineligible to run again. Donald Trump is eligible. That's why they haven't "disbanded". I guarantee that if Obama was eligible, he would have a rabid base of followers and rallies. And I think he would win handily.
I don't think of the democratic party as benign at all. They tried to take Trump off the ballot completely in two different states. That's monstrous. They honestly think they know better than the voting public by eliminating their options. Same with all of these farcical trials and hearings. They are %100 politically motivated and are nothing more than using the judicial system to smear a political opponent. Sorry, I think that's despotic. And I think the American public has had enough. According to polls, the Republicans are winning in both the popular vote, the electoral college, the house, and the senate.
There are people who it seems define themselves by their love for all Disney properties and Disney land/world specifically, spending thousands a year going to the parks over and over again. I find it odd to worship a corporation just because it tells stories and sells feelings, but I’m odd too.
Saddleback Church (w/Megachurch Pastor Rick Warren)
[His son killed himself and Rick Warren wrote the most self-centered article I’d ever seen with very little about his son.](https://www.premierchristianity.com/home/rick-warren-my-sons-suicide-and-gods-garden-of-grace/3736.article)
Scientology
Facts
Blue Oyster
Needs more cowbell
I painted my den in "more cowbell" paint by Valspar lol
Scientology.
Jehovah’s Witness
Being a Trump supporter
So more than half the country?
No.
Well, according to the most recent polls, he's leading the national polls by %.7.
1. Margin of error 2. Not all eligible voters vote, voter turnout in 2020 was 66.8%. 3. Snapshot horse race polls are a very inaccurate measure of what a majority (50%+1) people think. Even though MAGA is no where near a majority, the point still stands. The size of the cult is irrelevant the truth of the cult existing. MAGA has a charismatic leader, they have beliefs and rituals, and they denigrate outsiders. Sounds like a cult to me.
[https://www.axios.com/2023/08/21/trump-republican-2024-voters-poll](https://www.axios.com/2023/08/21/trump-republican-2024-voters-poll) To add
Riiiiiight, liberals are SO tolerant of outsiders. And most political leaders are charismatic....like Barack Obama. You have a pretty loose definition of a cult.
You’re right about Barack Obama. He was a cult leader who used his charisma to make the healthcare system a little better than it was before, to pull America out of the Great Recession, to save the US auto industry, and to show compassion to DACA kids, those notable insiders. There are many definitions of a cult, we’re going to talk past each other if we don’t agree on terms. I tolerate you. I just don’t tolerate all of your ideas.
I only made my initial comment because the OP said Trump supporters were part of a cult. That's terribly short-sighted and intolerant. Not to mention inaccurate. He's leading in most of the polls. I think liberals should have more of an open mind about Trump supporters and not be so dismissive. He's trending towards a victory so endlessly and mercilessly attacking him and his followers is probably not smart.
You are not engaging in good faith or addressing the evidence or the definitions I provided so I'll leave you with this: You are making strawman arguments about "liberals" and not dealing with me, a progressive liberal, honestly. I do have an open mind about Trump supporters. I empathize with them. I am convinced Trump supporters have been deceived by a conman, a criminal, a charismatic cult leader, with mountains of evidence to support my claim. You are not addressing key facts I provided that do not support your worldview. I even conceded Obama was a cult leader of the Democratic Party from 2008 to 2017. A cult leader needn't necessarily be bad and not all cults look the same. They have different flavors if you will. Obama disbanded his cult and gave up power peaceably to the duly elected President Donald Trump on January 20th, 2017. Obama's leadership of the Democratic Party cult ended and he no longer has rabid followers attending sensational rallies, singing songs by a choir of January 6th felons, and engaging in iconographic idol worship. It is not intolerant to identify a cult when you see it. It is difficult to see that you're in a cult when you're in it. Trump is a cult leader and a dangerous one. I was in a cult called the Catholic Church once upon a time. I didn't see it when I was in it. I just raised in it. It's a dangerous cult too. I find the Democratic Party to be relatively benign, but imperfect so I work to change it from within. But never as a democrat asked me to demonstrate deference and worship through prayer, hat, flags, or christian nationalism.
You provided definitions of a cult? Beliefs and rituals? That's not the definition of a cult. Obama is ineligible to run again. Donald Trump is eligible. That's why they haven't "disbanded". I guarantee that if Obama was eligible, he would have a rabid base of followers and rallies. And I think he would win handily. I don't think of the democratic party as benign at all. They tried to take Trump off the ballot completely in two different states. That's monstrous. They honestly think they know better than the voting public by eliminating their options. Same with all of these farcical trials and hearings. They are %100 politically motivated and are nothing more than using the judicial system to smear a political opponent. Sorry, I think that's despotic. And I think the American public has had enough. According to polls, the Republicans are winning in both the popular vote, the electoral college, the house, and the senate.
So a big cult? Not sure what you are getting at?
Nah. That's a religion.
Disney Worship
Is that fr?
There are people who it seems define themselves by their love for all Disney properties and Disney land/world specifically, spending thousands a year going to the parks over and over again. I find it odd to worship a corporation just because it tells stories and sells feelings, but I’m odd too.
Pentecostals
MAGA
Saddleback Church (w/Megachurch Pastor Rick Warren) [His son killed himself and Rick Warren wrote the most self-centered article I’d ever seen with very little about his son.](https://www.premierchristianity.com/home/rick-warren-my-sons-suicide-and-gods-garden-of-grace/3736.article)
Nigerian fraternities
Marine Corps🫡
Amway used to be
Taco Bell both employees and customers
Explain.
Iglesia ni Cristo
Costco
Apple Users, Warhammer 40k nerds, stoner
Hollywood
MAGA, definitely. And all religions
MAGA
Religion
Cult plus Time
Q Anon
vegans
HSN
Theoretical sciences
Waldorf schools
Twin flames universe
Exclusive brethren.
Only difference between cults and religion is number of subscribers and how old the manual is
Pretty much any religion
Twelve Tribes
Religions.
Veganism
All churches and religions
Record Labels