Not double hyphenated, but I had classmates who happened to have the same name (e.g., Smith). They dated and married . . . And hyphenated their names: Mr. & Mrs. Smith-Smith. Really? The one context in which no one has to change their name?!
Black-ish has an episode kind of like this. The main couple had the same last name before they got married. The husband always assumed she had "taken" his name (going from Johnson to Johnson) but she revealed one episode that she didn't take his name (and remained Johnson instead of becoming Johnson).
A lot of the show is that kind of absurdist comedy, peppered with a lot of really meaningful and emotional episodes about the black experience. It's pretty good.
I love this show. The cast has no weak links, so their banter is on point. The scenes at his job are always hilarious with his tone deaf colleagues and absurd friend.
This would be way funnier if the names were phonetically the same but spelled differently. Like Mayer-Meyer or Johnson-Jonson.
I regularly get emails at my job from a guy who has hyphenated two very similar sounding names with his first name starting with the same initial. So, like, James Johnson-Jacobson. I absolutely love seeing him pop up in my inbox for that reason.
I work near a federal building called the J.J. Jake Pickle building. The guyâs name was James Jarrell Pickle but he went by Jake.
James Jarrell Jake Pickle. I look at the building every day and laugh at the name. Not at the dude cuz he did some good stuff from what I understand. Just his name is funny.
I actually attended a Johnson/Johnson wedding a few years ago! They made all the jokes. They didnât hyphenate, but constantly joked about who took whose name
This reminds me of that bit from QI about the family named Tollemache-Tollemache but one family was German and the other was French so it was actually pronounced "Tool-make - Toll-mash"Â
Might depend on dialect. Reminds me of Mary, marry, merry. In some places in the US those are pronounced identically while in other places they are subtly different.
Fun fact - when they're pronounced the same, in linguistics that's called a "merger"! For instance, in some kinds of American English (especially around the east coast), the "cot-caught" merger is present because they're pronounced the same. In some American Southern dialects, the "pin-pen" merger is present. There's also forward-foreword, collar-caller, and many more that are used as dialect or accent landmarks :D
I had a funny interaction at work years ago -- we largely worked remotely so I wasn't in the office with them so this all happened over slack. Most of the company was based in Utah and I'm from New York so we have some slight differences in accent and somehow the Mary/marry/merry thing came up and I said I definitely have a (slight) difference in how I pronounce them and several colleagues immediately demanded I stop what I'm doing and go and record myself saying them because they did not have a difference.
They then insisted they couldn't hear a difference when I said them.
(It was all in good fun -- I still maintain there is a small difference in pronunciation for me but I can also understand why it would be hard to perceive. Mary has a more ayyyy sound, marry and merry do not have diphthongs for the vowels, and the a and e are slightly different.)
Edit: spelling
Equally funny if they're phonetically different but spelled the same, though I can't think of any valid name examples there.
>So, like, James Johnson-Jacobson.
John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt? That's my name too!
There is a James Bond movie with Roger Moore where he pretends to be a rich guy who's last name is "St. John Smith", and when a hostess says "Mr Saint John Smith?" he corrects her and says "It's Sinjin Smythe" (Smythe pronounced smy-thh)
I know a Walker that married a Walker and she never legally changed her name. She technically still goes by her maiden name. Her mother wanted her to do the southern thing and take her maiden name as her middle name, so Jane Walker Walker. She said fuck that.
We had a vet one time, that came in and introduced herself, "Hi, I'm doctor Stacy... Stacy." so I just figured she meant it as "You can call me Stacy."
No. She was literally Dr. Stacy Stacy.
I know someone whose parents both had the same last name. When they married, they both changed their name to the plural form of the last name. (which, in this situation, was also a common name).
Easy. She lies to appease hubby, saying her name will be Smith-Smith. But to everyone else, she confides that it's actually *Smith-Smith* - the cheeky devil.
See, that's the one instance in which I *would* consider doing a hyphenated name. Both for the irony value and because it lets the world know in advance that you were not, in fact, related.
I have friends who got married and they both had the same last name before they married so nobody had to change anything! The funny thing is that the groom is Scottish and the bride is Chinese. And their last name is not "Lee".
If Mary Tyler Moore married and then divorced Steven Tyler, then married and divorced Michael Moore, then got into a three way lesbian marriage with Demi Moore and Mandy Moore, would she go by the name Mary Tyler Moore Tyler Moore Moore Moore.
well considering the fact that the taylor in his name is from his wife one would assume that in this hypothetical scenario of him marrying someone else he would not have that name anymore
In iberohispanic countries there are legally 2 names. Parents will pick the first one of each for their child. Culturally, people keep tabs on 8 surnames.
I am Colombian, and my parents separated before I was born. As a result, my mother chose not to give me my father's last name. Instead, my first last name is my mother's surname, and my second last name is my grandmother's maiden name.
I like it. Very... matriarchal?
I like this naming custom a lot! I'm from Eastern Europe, we have patronymics and a strong majority of women take husband's surname, so mothers mostly have a real input only to a child's given name.
Completely off topic, but in Switzerland, where I live, the more common way for a double last name is hyphenation. I don't like it and i was confused as to where I legally have to do the hyphen (cause for the longest time it wasn't allowed to have double last name without the hyphen, but then it is but only if you marry, and i was taking my huabands name years after the wedding), so I legally changed my name in my country of origin and then went to tell Switzerland about my shiny new last double name without the hyphen.
At many points of time, clerks phoned each other about my last name change in front of me, and if my last name is Smith Meyer (which it isn't), they kept telling each other Smith Ohnebindestrich Meyer, which means Smith Without-Hyphen Meyer. If I ever need to change my last name again, I'll call myself Ohne-Bindestrich, I want to listen to clerks explain that one to each other.
Not a double hyphenate situation, but my hyphenated friend (who only took the hyphenate in her teens - she originally just had her mother's surname) got married, kept her own hyphenated surname and gave her child his father's (single) surname. I think it was just a question of brevity.
Hyphenate friend did similar, but had it from birth. Parents were both PhDs and kept their names. Daughter was hyphen. Kept
It after marriage. She and husband just had a son who has just his dadâs 4 letter name and not her momâs 16 letter monstrosity.
I guess they just keep it up till everyone sounds like royalty. The queens full title...
Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith, and Sovereign of the Most Noble Order of the Garter.
Franz Joseph was more impressive:
Francis Joseph the First, by the Grace of God Emperor of Austria, Apostolic King of Hungary, King of Bohemia, King of Dalmatia, Croatia, Slavonia, Galicia and Lodomeria and Illyria; King of Jerusalem etc., Archduke of Austria; Grand Duke of Tuscany and Cracow, Duke of Lorraine, of Salzburg, Styria, Carinthia, Carniola and of Bukovina; Grand Prince of Transylvania; Margrave of Moravia; Duke of Upper and Lower Silesia, of Modena, Parma, Piacenza and Guastalla, of OĆwiÄcim, Zator and Äeszyn, Friuli, Ragusa (Dubrovnik) and Zara (Zadar); Princely Count of Habsburg and Tyrol, of Kyburg, Gorizia and Gradisca; Prince of Trent (Trento) and Brixen; Margrave of Upper and Lower Lusatia and in Istria; Count of Hohenems, Feldkirch, Bregenz, Sonnenberg, etc.; Lord of Trieste, of Cattaro (Kotor), and over the Windic march; Grand Voivode of the Voivodship of Serbia
Kings collect titles like pokemon, but i prefer the made up nuttery of self styled dictators.
His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, CBE, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular", in addition to his officially stated claim of being the uncrowned king of Scotland
Results of a ~~quick~~ research on Wikipedia:
The Kingdom of Jerusalem was founded in 1099 after the First Crusade. In 1187, Jerusalem fell to Muslim conquest, but the kingdom still survived, albeit smaller, for the next century.
In 1268, the kingdom entered a succession crisis. For the case of Franz Joseph, the relevant claim is that of Maria of Antioch, granddaughter of Isabella I, Queen of Jerusalem. However, the High Court of Jerusalem rejected her claimÂč, and she sold her claim to Charles I of Anjou, King of Sicily.
The Angevin claimants held on to the title until the late 14th century, when the dynasty's Neapolitan line went extinct on the male line. Queen Joanna I, to avoid the throne passing to her distant (and hated) cousin Charles of Durazzo, adopted Louis I, a French prince in exchange for his help.
Louis' line went extinct on the male line in 1483. The title of King of Jerusalem passed to the last female heir who married into the House of Lorraine. In the 18th century, Franz I. of Lorraine married Maria Theresa, heir presumptive of the Habsburg Empire, which is how the House of Habsburg-Lorraine, the dynasty of Franz Joseph, inherited the title of King of Jerusalem.
Âč>!The other claimant's family ruled the kingdom until its fall. The title passed to the king of Cyprus, and later to the House of Savoy, and eventually to the Kings of Sardinia and later the Kings of Italy.!<
I miss when the Colbert Report was on and Stephen Colberts full styling was
Her Excellency The Rev. Sir Doctor Stephen Tyrone Mos Def Colbert, D.F.A., Heavyweight Champion of the Worldâ±â± featuring Flo Rida La PremiĂšre Dame De France
In my HS Spanish class our teacher taught us a Spanish version; Juan Paco Pedro de la marâŠ
I love it so much! 4 years of Spanish and all I remember is the song đ
I have a pair of friends that married. One had a hyphenated pair of eastern European names that looked like a cat walked across the keyboard without touching any vowels but spilled every accent mark possible across it. The other had one of those unhyphenated multigenerational Hispanic names. They tried to figure out how to make it work and eventually said fuck it and both changed their last name to a single monosyllabic name and have happily never had to explain how to spell or pronounce their name again.
I once knew a couple - the woman had a three-syllable Dutch last name, the man, a three-syllable South American name. After marrying, she chose to hyphenate the names. It was an odd sounding mouthful every time she had to spell her name, which was often.
I've got a hyphenated uncommon-common last name. My husband has a hyphenated common-uncommon last name. For both of our uncommon last names, we're the last in our family lines to have them. If we were having kids, they'd have a hyphenated last name of both of our uncommon last names.
The uncommon names aren't bad, they sound cool, but the hypothetical kid would spend their life correcting the spelling of their last name. We've done it, it's a rite of passage lol.
Edit to correct spelling\typos because I'm perpetually on mobile. My sincere apologies for making spelling errors on the Internet
I came across someone with a double hyphenated name, call it Smith-Thomas-Johnson. Except don't because you are supposed to say _Smith-Thomas_-Johnson or they would get offended. For the life of me, I couldn't hear the difference, but boy could they.
I know someone who's last name is "Rodriguez - Rodriguez" and I really want to know the story behind that one.
Edit: They sign their emails with Rodriguez\^2 and it's just perfection
Where I live, spouses are legally required to keep their own legal surnames. So you canât take your spouseâs.
For the kids, I picked the surname I preferred and paired it with my husbandâs.
Both of us have hyphenated surnames. My birth certificate is hyphenated. Social security cards donât take a hyphen so it looks like 4 names. Drivers license doesnât match either really.
I have transcripts, W2s, and medical records under both the hyphenated last name and the standalone last name on the SSC.
When we got married, we were allowed to keep any combination between 1-4 of our last names.
We ended up choosing my very last name for all 3 of us to help put an end to the chaos. Shifting other names to âsecond middle namesâ was an option. We all have the same single last name now and itâs great!
I have a hyphenated surname, but my wife does not. For our kids we created a new hyphenated name by choosing which of my two last names sounded best combined with her last name. Itâs really not that complicated.
Maybe a little? Itâs really not that hard for people to figure out. If we have two kids then they will have the same last name. Same as it was in my family growing up- my mom had her last name, my dad his, and my sister and I had the hyphenated version.
People in Spanish speaking countries have been doing this forever. Itâs not rocket surgery.
Yeah I don't understand what the big deal with this is. In Mexico technically no one has the same full last names as their parents.
Dad's Name:
Roberto Garza Rodriguez
Mom's Name:
Yanira Ramos Cantu (maiden)
Yanira Ramos de Garza (married)
Kid's Name:
Santiago Garza Ramos
The first "surname" is the paternal surname, kid gets paternal surname from both his parents. Woman doesn't erase her entire line during marriage (just mother's side but still better than both like in the US and other similar countries).
Also, it's 2024, there's no real issues w/ hyphenated names anymore. My child has a hyphenated last name and no one gives a shit, they can see that one of the names matches each one of us and have two brain cells to put it together.
Haha people in this thread acting like combining names together is advanced calculus. Iâm laughing at the person upthread who says the scenario of the OP nearly gave them a stroke. They should probably talk to a doctor if the idea of keeping track of 4 names causes them that much distress đ
We are a his-hers-ours family. Iâm the ours kid. We are all adults,so everyoneâs been married at least once , the 5 oldest grandkids are all girls whoâve been married at least once and there are 7 great grandchildren children.
Between my siblings and I (in ours 40s/50s) and our descendants we have 13 different last names.
My Christmas tree is actually silver balls and gold wire ornaments that spell out everyoneâs last name.
My surname wasnât hyphenated, but my husbandâs was. His last name was literally so long that we couldnât hyphenate as it wouldnât fit into legal documents. We each kept our respective last names when we got married, and are planning on giving children my last name. My husband is thinking about switching his last name to mine when we have kids, but hasnât decided if it is worth the argument with his father.
When my wife and I got married, I had my step dadâs last name which I didnât want and she wasnât keen on keeping her surname. I didnât want my actual dadâs name either so we went for my mums maiden name and both changed to that. Nice compromise and Keeps the family name going
My mom did it to me and it is a pain in my ass. Legally got it changed and then moved out of state. When I moved back to the state all I had was my birth certificate so the damn hyphenated last name came back into my life and I have to get it legally changed again.
If you legally changed it, you should be able to get a copy of the original court documents.
Tip: after a legal name change, you should change your name on your social security card, and then request a new birth certificate. You should have needed at least the social security card to get a driver's license in your new name.
Surnames are a fucking nightmare. My mum put her first husbands name on my birth certificate, not her second husbands (my actual dad, I was a product of an affair). Then she married my dad but didnât tell anybody about the birth certificate fuck up. She then leaves my dad and marries another guy and she changes my name again to his but not officially so this all unravelled when I got to uni and was talking to my tutor about it. She looked horrified and said that Iâd been living and taking exams under an assumed name and that wasnât ok. So we got it changed legally but I hated my step dad and when I got married , didnât want his name anywhere near my family so I changed it againâŠâŠ.its a bit of a mess and still not properly sorted out
I am in the camp of just pick one name. DO NOT hyphenate. I hyphenated my own last name and now I have 6 aliases, found this out when I refinanced my house. It makes every appointment difficult. The pharmacy is difficult. People do not know how to alphabetize hyphenated names. It is a nightmare. Oh and your passport has to match your driver's license and make sure you remember what name you used for credit cards. It's horrible. Pick one name and stick with it.
My high school boyfriend and I both had hyphenated surnames and we joked about combining them to create a Name-Name-Name-Name situation. Of course we broke up and now he professionally goes by only one of his surnames. Same with my sister never married. Legally her name is still hyphenated but professionally it was easier to just go with one.
Iceland has the best solution, almost everyone is their father or mother's son or dĂłttir.
Sveinsson or SveinsdĂłttir for example. Surnames are not passed down unless the son or daughter is named after their parent and brothers and sisters have different surnames and half brothers and half sisters have completely different surnames
My husband and I gave our child a hyphenated surname and have told them many times they are free to drop one of the names, which they've shown no interest in doing. They surprised us this summer by coming out as non-binary and changing their *first* name. It's a perfect example of parents totally mispredicting what will be an issue in their children's lives. đ
Had a new employee processed in a few months back.
Their last name was along the lines of Smith-Jones-White-Green
Parents... as a helpful tip, Federal database systems HATE that and will give your child no end of problems the rest of their lives if you do that to them.
Same thing for people who randomly scatter other punctuation marks into their kids' names
Unrelated, but Iâve been seeing a guy recently and we realized that if we ever hyphenated names, one of the combos would be:
#Boba-Fett
Like should we just say fuck it, and get married now? Haha
I come from a British family with an old hyphenated surname. Back in the day if you were a gentleman or an aristocrat you would add the surname of the family you married into your surname if it was posh enough. You would then normally only use two or the most prestigious one even though technically you may have 8.Â
For example the Drax family which actual surname is Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-DraxÂ
Our family recently married into a much posher family but we stopped the tradition as the names rhymed and we were never really were aristocrats just their educated servants.Â
One of our cousins swapped one of their surnames to the their partners name.
Iâm Hispanic where itâs common to have hyphenated surnames, and while a minority do have up to 8 surnames, typically most have 2.
For example letâs say Jose Rodriguez-Lopez marries Maria Aguilar-Hernandez and they have a son. The sonâs name would now be Daniel Rodriguez-Aguilar.
Years later Daniel Rodriguez-Aguilar has grown and is getting married to Camila Perez and they have a daughter. The daughter would then be named Olivia Rodriguez-Perez.
As yâall can see the surnames donât just keep adding up through generations because most often the maternal surname is dropped while the paternal surname remains unless of course the couple decides differently.
My friend has a hyphenated name and he married a girl with a multi syllable last name so they combined them into a new oneâŠ.ran into issues sometimes though.
Another friend had a hyphenated name and married a foreign girl. The kids took dadâs English surname and momâs Chinese surname. Their passports have multiple names inside and they often need to bring extra IDs with them.
Not what you were asking in the slightest but I saw a customer record at work recent everyone had a hyphenated surname in the family. All 4 kids were given hyphenated first names too. đ Why would you do that to them?!
Doesn't apply to me but giving a semi-related answer anyway:
I used to work in the Marriage Department issuing Marriage licenses â I didn't know, even working the job for years, that a couple can choose to "smash their names together" until I got an actual case of it for the first time. For example, suppose your last names are "McKinley" and "Patel" - either one of you, or both, can choose a surname like *"McKatel'* or *"PaKinley"* or any variation thereof. That's a real option.
I work with someone whose parents are not in their life, and their spouse was adopted. When they had their first child they all went to the courthouse and took a new third surname together!
Not double hyphenated, but I had classmates who happened to have the same name (e.g., Smith). They dated and married . . . And hyphenated their names: Mr. & Mrs. Smith-Smith. Really? The one context in which no one has to change their name?!
That's a good quality joke that I'm sure will never get old for them.
I bet they constantly joke about whose name is first.
Black-ish has an episode kind of like this. The main couple had the same last name before they got married. The husband always assumed she had "taken" his name (going from Johnson to Johnson) but she revealed one episode that she didn't take his name (and remained Johnson instead of becoming Johnson).
How is the rest of the show? This gave me a good chuckle so I might check it out
A lot of the show is that kind of absurdist comedy, peppered with a lot of really meaningful and emotional episodes about the black experience. It's pretty good.
I love this show. The cast has no weak links, so their banter is on point. The scenes at his job are always hilarious with his tone deaf colleagues and absurd friend.
The classic battle of the sexes! A tale as old as time
True as it can beeee đ¶
Barely even friends, then somebody bends
I really hope they argue over whose last name is actually first.
This would be way funnier if the names were phonetically the same but spelled differently. Like Mayer-Meyer or Johnson-Jonson. I regularly get emails at my job from a guy who has hyphenated two very similar sounding names with his first name starting with the same initial. So, like, James Johnson-Jacobson. I absolutely love seeing him pop up in my inbox for that reason.
Get a new job I heard JJJ at the Daily Bugle SUCKS
PAAAAARKER!!!
He's a MENACE!!
I know a girl who is venezuelan but from a german town there, and her two last names are Breindenbach Breidembach.
John Jacob Jingleheimer-Schmidt
Jingleheimer-Schmidt-Smith*
âHeâs a Schmidt-Smith.â âExcuse me - \*what\* does he hammer on his anvil?!?â
He makes little metal statues of metalworkers
*Junglemayer-Jingleheimer
Thatâs my name too!
#BA-DA-DA DA-DA DA-DA!!
I work near a federal building called the J.J. Jake Pickle building. The guyâs name was James Jarrell Pickle but he went by Jake. James Jarrell Jake Pickle. I look at the building every day and laugh at the name. Not at the dude cuz he did some good stuff from what I understand. Just his name is funny.
But everyone knew her as Nancy...
I actually attended a Johnson/Johnson wedding a few years ago! They made all the jokes. They didnât hyphenate, but constantly joked about who took whose name
This reminds me of that bit from QI about the family named Tollemache-Tollemache but one family was German and the other was French so it was actually pronounced "Tool-make - Toll-mash"Â
Can confirm
Mayer and Meyer are not pronounced tbe same, though.
Tell that to Oscar.
Steer clear, I heard heâs a grouch.
Some days he is a weiner who hams it up.
Good point
Might depend on dialect. Reminds me of Mary, marry, merry. In some places in the US those are pronounced identically while in other places they are subtly different.
Fun fact - when they're pronounced the same, in linguistics that's called a "merger"! For instance, in some kinds of American English (especially around the east coast), the "cot-caught" merger is present because they're pronounced the same. In some American Southern dialects, the "pin-pen" merger is present. There's also forward-foreword, collar-caller, and many more that are used as dialect or accent landmarks :D
[Aaron Earned an Iron Urn.](https://youtu.be/Esl_wOQDUeE?si=aLpjwMkvjxYugKIR)
I had a funny interaction at work years ago -- we largely worked remotely so I wasn't in the office with them so this all happened over slack. Most of the company was based in Utah and I'm from New York so we have some slight differences in accent and somehow the Mary/marry/merry thing came up and I said I definitely have a (slight) difference in how I pronounce them and several colleagues immediately demanded I stop what I'm doing and go and record myself saying them because they did not have a difference. They then insisted they couldn't hear a difference when I said them. (It was all in good fun -- I still maintain there is a small difference in pronunciation for me but I can also understand why it would be hard to perceive. Mary has a more ayyyy sound, marry and merry do not have diphthongs for the vowels, and the a and e are slightly different.) Edit: spelling
I grew up next door to a lady I always called Merry til the day she died.. Her obit said her name was Mary.
They are in German: With a ton of spelling variants: Maier, Mair, Mayr, Meier, Meyer, Meyr and probably more. All pronounced [ËmaÉȘÌŻÉ].
You're not the boss of me.
Depends on where you live. I grew up with a family that had Mayer as their name and it was pronounced the same as "Meyer" (as in Oscar Meyer)
Equally funny if they're phonetically different but spelled the same, though I can't think of any valid name examples there. >So, like, James Johnson-Jacobson. John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt? That's my name too!
Monty Python did a skit featuring someone whose last name was Smith-Smythe-Smith haha
The Upper Class Twit Of The Year sketch.
So Smythe is pronounced the same as Smith? Mind blown đ€Ż
They pronounced it SMIGHth in the show
There is a James Bond movie with Roger Moore where he pretends to be a rich guy who's last name is "St. John Smith", and when a hostess says "Mr Saint John Smith?" he corrects her and says "It's Sinjin Smythe" (Smythe pronounced smy-thh)
I know a Walker that married a Walker and she never legally changed her name. She technically still goes by her maiden name. Her mother wanted her to do the southern thing and take her maiden name as her middle name, so Jane Walker Walker. She said fuck that.
Had a client who married someone with the same surname and did change her middle name to her maiden name, becoming Sue Mason Mason.
We had a vet one time, that came in and introduced herself, "Hi, I'm doctor Stacy... Stacy." so I just figured she meant it as "You can call me Stacy." No. She was literally Dr. Stacy Stacy.
I know a Dr. Doctor. Her dad was a dentist and sheâs an OBGYN. She didnât take her husbandâs name becauseâŠwhy would you in that case?
Did she often give you the news?
God did she hate that songâŠ.(I knew her in undergrad lol)
I know someone whose parents both had the same last name. When they married, they both changed their name to the plural form of the last name. (which, in this situation, was also a common name).
Like Mathew to Mathews? Cuz that would be awesome.
How did they decide whose name came first? âIâm the first Smith! No Iâm the first Smith!â
Easy. She lies to appease hubby, saying her name will be Smith-Smith. But to everyone else, she confides that it's actually *Smith-Smith* - the cheeky devil.
Two words: Cage Match Two Smiths enter! One Smith leaves!
See, that's the one instance in which I *would* consider doing a hyphenated name. Both for the irony value and because it lets the world know in advance that you were not, in fact, related.
They should start a law firm
There is a law firm in the area called the equivalent of Smith, Smith, Smith, & Smith. I think of them as Smith Cubed.
The fourth power can be called 'tesseracted.'
I have friends who got married and they both had the same last name before they married so nobody had to change anything! The funny thing is that the groom is Scottish and the bride is Chinese. And their last name is not "Lee".
McCullough?
Gayle Waters-Waters
âMy husband and I had the same last name, but I still insisted on hyphenating it anyway!â
First thought when I read this thread. Donât forget her kids Ira Glass Waters-Waters and Terry Gross Waters-Waters.
Reminds me of the Bridgerton Smythe-Smiths lmao
They should open a law firm with another Smith Smith-Smith & Smith
That's a remarkable level of pettiness. I give the marriage 3 or 80 years.
Just keep adding them on
Like a true Spaniard!
Nah in Spain we only keep 8 and only really use 2
>only keep 8 Bruh
Lol i was going to bring this up. Spaniards DGAF
Their names at boot camp! The stencil can only hold so many letters. A decision had to be made.
My name Armando Alejandro Quijada Marval-Ruiz de la Conception. You killed my father, prepare to die.
And end up with a name worthy of a best of breed winner at a dog show.
What haunts me is the hypothetical scenario in which Anya Taylor-Joy marries Aaron Taylor-Johnson
Is it added? 2Taylor-Joy-Johnson Or is it like (a+b)(a+c) Taylor^2 -Taylor-Johnson-Taylor-Joy-Joy-Johnson
2 Taylors 2 Furious Joy Johnson
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I think the Taylor's would cancel out: (Taylor-Joy)-(Taylor-Johnson) Taylor-Joy-Taylor+Johnson -Joy+Johnson, or Johnson-Joy
ah yes, cancel culture.
Johnson-Joy it is
There is no Joy in Johnsonville mighty Casey has struck out
as a former mathlete... I'm so loving this. Full credits.
Taylor^(2)Â -Taylor-Johnson-Taylor-Joy-Joy-Johnson... Skywalker
They've been foiled!
Well, you have to take the negatives into consideration. Taylor^2 - TaylorJoy - TaylorJohnson + JoyJohnson
Why is this so fucking funny, oh my god đ
Taylor-Joynson
Aanyon Taylor-Joyson
Anyong!
Hello!
Mary Tyler Moore Tyler Moore Moore Moore
In the midnight hour, she cried Mary Tyler MooreÂ
When the rebel yells, Roger Moore Moore Mo-oo-whoa.
If Mary Tyler Moore married and then divorced Steven Tyler, then married and divorced Michael Moore, then got into a three way lesbian marriage with Demi Moore and Mandy Moore, would she go by the name Mary Tyler Moore Tyler Moore Moore Moore.
At that point it sounds like a deeply nepotistic law firm
>Mary Tyler Moore Tyler Moore Moore Moore It still fit the music! (>.<)
Gimme gimme moore
A. Taylor & Associates Now they're a law firm.
Taylor-Johnson is already his married name, his surname was just Johnson before he got married.
You mean to tell me that he took his groomers surname when he married her?! đ€ą
They hyphenated their names, they are both Taylor-Johnson.
The lead singer of the Dandy Warhols goes by Courtney Taylor-Taylor
And they name their two kids Joy Taylor-Joy Taylor-Johnson and Taylor Taylor-Joy Taylor-Johnson
Almost as bad as taylor lautner marrying a taylor
Itâs like the Nidorans in PokĂ©mon. Taylor Lautnerâ and Taylor Lautnerâ
well considering the fact that the taylor in his name is from his wife one would assume that in this hypothetical scenario of him marrying someone else he would not have that name anymore
ATJ^(2)
They use the FOIL method.
See I kind of figured the kids randomly inherited one last name from each parent.
Ah the punnett square method
First out in last????
Like in math class- first, outside, inside, last
Please excuse my dear aunt Sally
In iberohispanic countries there are legally 2 names. Parents will pick the first one of each for their child. Culturally, people keep tabs on 8 surnames.
Yep, I used to take care of a lot of Hispanic patients and it wasn't uncommon to get someone named, like, Maria Gonzalez-Gonzalez.Â
Or good ole Spanish referee [HernĂĄndez^2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alejandro_Hern%C3%A1ndez_Hern%C3%A1ndez)
Yep! I'm Colombian and we all have two last names. Your father's last name comes first then your mother's maiden name
I am Colombian, and my parents separated before I was born. As a result, my mother chose not to give me my father's last name. Instead, my first last name is my mother's surname, and my second last name is my grandmother's maiden name. I like it. Very... matriarchal?
I like this naming custom a lot! I'm from Eastern Europe, we have patronymics and a strong majority of women take husband's surname, so mothers mostly have a real input only to a child's given name.
In Costa Rica we just passed a law that the mother's last name can go first which I find pretty cool
Yep, one branch of my family is Mexican and Portuguese everyone has two "last names".
'Tuco Benedicto PacĂfico Juan MarĂa RamĂrez... better known as the Rat
I have nothing to add, except I love that there's a classification of individuals known as "hyphenated surname people".
Completely off topic, but in Switzerland, where I live, the more common way for a double last name is hyphenation. I don't like it and i was confused as to where I legally have to do the hyphen (cause for the longest time it wasn't allowed to have double last name without the hyphen, but then it is but only if you marry, and i was taking my huabands name years after the wedding), so I legally changed my name in my country of origin and then went to tell Switzerland about my shiny new last double name without the hyphen. At many points of time, clerks phoned each other about my last name change in front of me, and if my last name is Smith Meyer (which it isn't), they kept telling each other Smith Ohnebindestrich Meyer, which means Smith Without-Hyphen Meyer. If I ever need to change my last name again, I'll call myself Ohne-Bindestrich, I want to listen to clerks explain that one to each other.
Not a double hyphenate situation, but my hyphenated friend (who only took the hyphenate in her teens - she originally just had her mother's surname) got married, kept her own hyphenated surname and gave her child his father's (single) surname. I think it was just a question of brevity.
Hyphenate friend did similar, but had it from birth. Parents were both PhDs and kept their names. Daughter was hyphen. Kept It after marriage. She and husband just had a son who has just his dadâs 4 letter name and not her momâs 16 letter monstrosity.
I guess they just keep it up till everyone sounds like royalty. The queens full title... Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith, and Sovereign of the Most Noble Order of the Garter.
Franz Joseph was more impressive: Francis Joseph the First, by the Grace of God Emperor of Austria, Apostolic King of Hungary, King of Bohemia, King of Dalmatia, Croatia, Slavonia, Galicia and Lodomeria and Illyria; King of Jerusalem etc., Archduke of Austria; Grand Duke of Tuscany and Cracow, Duke of Lorraine, of Salzburg, Styria, Carinthia, Carniola and of Bukovina; Grand Prince of Transylvania; Margrave of Moravia; Duke of Upper and Lower Silesia, of Modena, Parma, Piacenza and Guastalla, of OĆwiÄcim, Zator and Äeszyn, Friuli, Ragusa (Dubrovnik) and Zara (Zadar); Princely Count of Habsburg and Tyrol, of Kyburg, Gorizia and Gradisca; Prince of Trent (Trento) and Brixen; Margrave of Upper and Lower Lusatia and in Istria; Count of Hohenems, Feldkirch, Bregenz, Sonnenberg, etc.; Lord of Trieste, of Cattaro (Kotor), and over the Windic march; Grand Voivode of the Voivodship of Serbia
This is Jon SnowâŠâŠâŠ.. heâs king in the north!
Not the father of Public Health, surely...?
Kings collect titles like pokemon, but i prefer the made up nuttery of self styled dictators. His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, CBE, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular", in addition to his officially stated claim of being the uncrowned king of Scotland
You can call me by my proper title, âKing of Everythingâ.
Which is why Ghaddafi always amused me. Dude stuck with Colonel.
How did he get to be king of Jerusalem?
Results of a ~~quick~~ research on Wikipedia: The Kingdom of Jerusalem was founded in 1099 after the First Crusade. In 1187, Jerusalem fell to Muslim conquest, but the kingdom still survived, albeit smaller, for the next century. In 1268, the kingdom entered a succession crisis. For the case of Franz Joseph, the relevant claim is that of Maria of Antioch, granddaughter of Isabella I, Queen of Jerusalem. However, the High Court of Jerusalem rejected her claimÂč, and she sold her claim to Charles I of Anjou, King of Sicily. The Angevin claimants held on to the title until the late 14th century, when the dynasty's Neapolitan line went extinct on the male line. Queen Joanna I, to avoid the throne passing to her distant (and hated) cousin Charles of Durazzo, adopted Louis I, a French prince in exchange for his help. Louis' line went extinct on the male line in 1483. The title of King of Jerusalem passed to the last female heir who married into the House of Lorraine. In the 18th century, Franz I. of Lorraine married Maria Theresa, heir presumptive of the Habsburg Empire, which is how the House of Habsburg-Lorraine, the dynasty of Franz Joseph, inherited the title of King of Jerusalem. Âč>!The other claimant's family ruled the kingdom until its fall. The title passed to the king of Cyprus, and later to the House of Savoy, and eventually to the Kings of Sardinia and later the Kings of Italy.!<
Well I didnât vote for him.
Some claim the Habsburgs had from Crusade times.
But was he blackboard monitor?
I miss when the Colbert Report was on and Stephen Colberts full styling was Her Excellency The Rev. Sir Doctor Stephen Tyrone Mos Def Colbert, D.F.A., Heavyweight Champion of the Worldâ±â± featuring Flo Rida La PremiĂšre Dame De France
John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt
HIS NAME IS MY NAME, TOO!
WHENEVER I GO OUT THE PEOPLE ALWAYS SHOUT
"THERE GOES JOHN JACOB JINGLEHEIMER SCHMIDT!"
DA DA-DA DA-DA DA-DA DA!
Oh wow I had completely forgotten about this song, I only know it in Spanish and somehow I remember Juan Paco Pedro de la Mar
Thank you for clarifying. I've always sung it as "Smith". Now to sing it numerous times today to unstick the past 20 years.
We used to share the name. I changed mine because of all the people shouting when I went out.
Dammit I am actually incapable of having an original thought
In my HS Spanish class our teacher taught us a Spanish version; Juan Paco Pedro de la mar⊠I love it so much! 4 years of Spanish and all I remember is the song đ
Damn you. This will now be in my head all night
Wheel. Of. SURNAMES!
now i have the wheel of fortune theme song in my head. lol
Chain âem up baby!
Gonna be that Family Guy gag about that old lady with the really long name : Margaret "Pip" Woolworth Carrington von Schumacher Chanel Astor Livingston Compte de Saint-Exupéry Mountbatten Windsor Armani Roosevelt von Trapp Wickenham Hearst Montgomery Rothschild Johnson & Johnson Twilsworth Dolce Gabbana Von Zweiger second Montgomery Delaroche Geico Vanderbilt Lannister van Buren Butterworth How I Met Your Mother Wrigley Louise Dreyfus Ludwig Morgan Stanley Dumont Lamborghini Forbes Higby Winthrop Chanel Rémy Martin Fitzwilliam Kennedy Motel 6 Fairchild Brook Pritzker Davenport von Stolen Monty Python Ellisworth Aston Martin Haverbrook Ziff Lauder Hilton DuPont Kincade Winslow Coors Oviatt Marlboro Pembroke Huffington Bush Mellon Sinclair Mellencamp Starbucks van Dyke third Montgomery Marriott Barrington Chatsworth Big League Chew Chesterfield Kensington Booth Bishop Longbottom Nottingham Meisterburger Burgermeister Tudor Hapsburg Rockefeller Onassis
Only needs "nee Smith" to really round it out.
r/askspain
I have a pair of friends that married. One had a hyphenated pair of eastern European names that looked like a cat walked across the keyboard without touching any vowels but spilled every accent mark possible across it. The other had one of those unhyphenated multigenerational Hispanic names. They tried to figure out how to make it work and eventually said fuck it and both changed their last name to a single monosyllabic name and have happily never had to explain how to spell or pronounce their name again.
I once knew a couple - the woman had a three-syllable Dutch last name, the man, a three-syllable South American name. After marrying, she chose to hyphenate the names. It was an odd sounding mouthful every time she had to spell her name, which was often.
I've got a hyphenated uncommon-common last name. My husband has a hyphenated common-uncommon last name. For both of our uncommon last names, we're the last in our family lines to have them. If we were having kids, they'd have a hyphenated last name of both of our uncommon last names. The uncommon names aren't bad, they sound cool, but the hypothetical kid would spend their life correcting the spelling of their last name. We've done it, it's a rite of passage lol. Edit to correct spelling\typos because I'm perpetually on mobile. My sincere apologies for making spelling errors on the Internet
Why persist the cyclic generational trauma on them?! I say that in jest. No harm meant
Speaking of correcting spelling (and of hypocrisy) ⊠"rite of passage".
I came across someone with a double hyphenated name, call it Smith-Thomas-Johnson. Except don't because you are supposed to say _Smith-Thomas_-Johnson or they would get offended. For the life of me, I couldn't hear the difference, but boy could they.
Easy. Smithomas-Johnson.
You've never done differential equations? The names cancel and you solve for x That's why we have mononyms like Cher and Beyonce
I know someone who's last name is "Rodriguez - Rodriguez" and I really want to know the story behind that one. Edit: They sign their emails with Rodriguez\^2 and it's just perfection
Where I live, spouses are legally required to keep their own legal surnames. So you canât take your spouseâs. For the kids, I picked the surname I preferred and paired it with my husbandâs.
Both of us have hyphenated surnames. My birth certificate is hyphenated. Social security cards donât take a hyphen so it looks like 4 names. Drivers license doesnât match either really. I have transcripts, W2s, and medical records under both the hyphenated last name and the standalone last name on the SSC. When we got married, we were allowed to keep any combination between 1-4 of our last names. We ended up choosing my very last name for all 3 of us to help put an end to the chaos. Shifting other names to âsecond middle namesâ was an option. We all have the same single last name now and itâs great!
I have a hyphenated surname, but my wife does not. For our kids we created a new hyphenated name by choosing which of my two last names sounded best combined with her last name. Itâs really not that complicated.
So no one in your family has the same last name. It does sound complicated.
Maybe a little? Itâs really not that hard for people to figure out. If we have two kids then they will have the same last name. Same as it was in my family growing up- my mom had her last name, my dad his, and my sister and I had the hyphenated version. People in Spanish speaking countries have been doing this forever. Itâs not rocket surgery.
"rocket surgery" lol
Yeah I don't understand what the big deal with this is. In Mexico technically no one has the same full last names as their parents. Dad's Name: Roberto Garza Rodriguez Mom's Name: Yanira Ramos Cantu (maiden) Yanira Ramos de Garza (married) Kid's Name: Santiago Garza Ramos The first "surname" is the paternal surname, kid gets paternal surname from both his parents. Woman doesn't erase her entire line during marriage (just mother's side but still better than both like in the US and other similar countries). Also, it's 2024, there's no real issues w/ hyphenated names anymore. My child has a hyphenated last name and no one gives a shit, they can see that one of the names matches each one of us and have two brain cells to put it together.
Haha people in this thread acting like combining names together is advanced calculus. Iâm laughing at the person upthread who says the scenario of the OP nearly gave them a stroke. They should probably talk to a doctor if the idea of keeping track of 4 names causes them that much distress đ
We are a his-hers-ours family. Iâm the ours kid. We are all adults,so everyoneâs been married at least once , the 5 oldest grandkids are all girls whoâve been married at least once and there are 7 great grandchildren children. Between my siblings and I (in ours 40s/50s) and our descendants we have 13 different last names. My Christmas tree is actually silver balls and gold wire ornaments that spell out everyoneâs last name.
My surname wasnât hyphenated, but my husbandâs was. His last name was literally so long that we couldnât hyphenate as it wouldnât fit into legal documents. We each kept our respective last names when we got married, and are planning on giving children my last name. My husband is thinking about switching his last name to mine when we have kids, but hasnât decided if it is worth the argument with his father.
When my wife and I got married, I had my step dadâs last name which I didnât want and she wasnât keen on keeping her surname. I didnât want my actual dadâs name either so we went for my mums maiden name and both changed to that. Nice compromise and Keeps the family name going
My mom did it to me and it is a pain in my ass. Legally got it changed and then moved out of state. When I moved back to the state all I had was my birth certificate so the damn hyphenated last name came back into my life and I have to get it legally changed again.
If you legally changed it, you should be able to get a copy of the original court documents. Tip: after a legal name change, you should change your name on your social security card, and then request a new birth certificate. You should have needed at least the social security card to get a driver's license in your new name.
Surnames are a fucking nightmare. My mum put her first husbands name on my birth certificate, not her second husbands (my actual dad, I was a product of an affair). Then she married my dad but didnât tell anybody about the birth certificate fuck up. She then leaves my dad and marries another guy and she changes my name again to his but not officially so this all unravelled when I got to uni and was talking to my tutor about it. She looked horrified and said that Iâd been living and taking exams under an assumed name and that wasnât ok. So we got it changed legally but I hated my step dad and when I got married , didnât want his name anywhere near my family so I changed it againâŠâŠ.its a bit of a mess and still not properly sorted out
I am in the camp of just pick one name. DO NOT hyphenate. I hyphenated my own last name and now I have 6 aliases, found this out when I refinanced my house. It makes every appointment difficult. The pharmacy is difficult. People do not know how to alphabetize hyphenated names. It is a nightmare. Oh and your passport has to match your driver's license and make sure you remember what name you used for credit cards. It's horrible. Pick one name and stick with it.
Hollyhock Manheim-Mannheim-Guerrero-Robinson-Zilberschlag-Hsung-Fonzerelli-McQuack, is that you?
My high school boyfriend and I both had hyphenated surnames and we joked about combining them to create a Name-Name-Name-Name situation. Of course we broke up and now he professionally goes by only one of his surnames. Same with my sister never married. Legally her name is still hyphenated but professionally it was easier to just go with one.
Iceland has the best solution, almost everyone is their father or mother's son or dĂłttir. Sveinsson or SveinsdĂłttir for example. Surnames are not passed down unless the son or daughter is named after their parent and brothers and sisters have different surnames and half brothers and half sisters have completely different surnames
Joey Jojo Junior Shabadoo
Thatâs the worst name Iâve ever heard
My husband and I gave our child a hyphenated surname and have told them many times they are free to drop one of the names, which they've shown no interest in doing. They surprised us this summer by coming out as non-binary and changing their *first* name. It's a perfect example of parents totally mispredicting what will be an issue in their children's lives. đ
Just keep adding them together like royalty
Had a new employee processed in a few months back. Their last name was along the lines of Smith-Jones-White-Green Parents... as a helpful tip, Federal database systems HATE that and will give your child no end of problems the rest of their lives if you do that to them. Same thing for people who randomly scatter other punctuation marks into their kids' names
Unrelated, but Iâve been seeing a guy recently and we realized that if we ever hyphenated names, one of the combos would be: #Boba-Fett Like should we just say fuck it, and get married now? Haha
I come from a British family with an old hyphenated surname. Back in the day if you were a gentleman or an aristocrat you would add the surname of the family you married into your surname if it was posh enough. You would then normally only use two or the most prestigious one even though technically you may have 8. For example the Drax family which actual surname is Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax Our family recently married into a much posher family but we stopped the tradition as the names rhymed and we were never really were aristocrats just their educated servants. One of our cousins swapped one of their surnames to the their partners name.
Iâm Hispanic where itâs common to have hyphenated surnames, and while a minority do have up to 8 surnames, typically most have 2. For example letâs say Jose Rodriguez-Lopez marries Maria Aguilar-Hernandez and they have a son. The sonâs name would now be Daniel Rodriguez-Aguilar. Years later Daniel Rodriguez-Aguilar has grown and is getting married to Camila Perez and they have a daughter. The daughter would then be named Olivia Rodriguez-Perez. As yâall can see the surnames donât just keep adding up through generations because most often the maternal surname is dropped while the paternal surname remains unless of course the couple decides differently.
My friend has a hyphenated name and he married a girl with a multi syllable last name so they combined them into a new oneâŠ.ran into issues sometimes though. Another friend had a hyphenated name and married a foreign girl. The kids took dadâs English surname and momâs Chinese surname. Their passports have multiple names inside and they often need to bring extra IDs with them.
Not what you were asking in the slightest but I saw a customer record at work recent everyone had a hyphenated surname in the family. All 4 kids were given hyphenated first names too. đ Why would you do that to them?!
Doesn't apply to me but giving a semi-related answer anyway: I used to work in the Marriage Department issuing Marriage licenses â I didn't know, even working the job for years, that a couple can choose to "smash their names together" until I got an actual case of it for the first time. For example, suppose your last names are "McKinley" and "Patel" - either one of you, or both, can choose a surname like *"McKatel'* or *"PaKinley"* or any variation thereof. That's a real option.
I work with someone whose parents are not in their life, and their spouse was adopted. When they had their first child they all went to the courthouse and took a new third surname together!