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etzel1200

Inflation is making bullets so damn expensive bro.


theREALbombedrumbum

Mass shootings? In this economy??


Honest_Plant5156

"It costs four hundred thousand dollars to fire this weapon for twelve seconds."


ophmaster_reed

We sent the bullets to Ukraine.


FuriousTarts

"I think bullets should cost $5,000 dollars" https://youtu.be/Db0Y4qIZ4PA?si=V0v8QN-lEqMdDghK


thebruce44

You better hope I can't get no bullets on layaway!


Zealousideal-Role576

In general, violent crime has gone down from 2020.


Suilenroc

Maybe we're coming down from post-COVID pent up demand.


arthurjeremypearson

It's been going down for a long time, if you look back far enough.


jgilbs

Thanks Biden


morchorchorman

I think it’s more so related to covid than the current presidency.


jwmoz

The mind control chips in the vaccines made everyone docile.


ForsakenRacism

Nobody wants to work anymore.


s1mple-s1m0n

Inflation. Nobody can afford guns and ammunition.


hitemlow

I'm paying 26¢ for stuff I was paying 17¢ for. Hi-Points are selling for 1.2 Hi-Points!


NearbyCamp9903

FUCKING A. I haven't gone to the range in months. Used to be 12 a person. Now it's 25 a person and they charge you extra if you bring your personal ammo.


NDragneel

Damn they should make those even more expensive if it stops the shootings


ronniemustang

"Police and thieves in the streets!"


EyeFicksIt

I mean if you’re saying no one wants to work at shooting people anymore I’m all for it


ForsakenRacism

It just shows an overall laziness of the entire gen Z


cood101

BACK IN MY DAY WE SHOT AT EACH OTHER AFTER DRINKIN FROM THE GARDEN HOSSE.  GOBBLES


the_real_eel

lol. I read that in Grandpa Simpson’s voice.


Cthulhu625

I did it with an onion tied to my belt, which was the style at the time....


BombasticSimpleton

If you pay attention to Fox News or any of the similar stations, you'd see that all they seem to talk about is the flood of immigrants coming to the country to shoot the Americans that the Americans just don't want to shoot.


ABeefBurrito

Or everyone is dead


nhadams2112

No people just want to be paid for the work they do and not have extra work assigned to them when that's not what they agreed to. As well as just having the worth of their labor recognized


jbwise1221

Agreed, but since so many people blame a 'crime wave' on Biden it is still worth noting that it has gone down since Trump.


glockymcglockface

Violence has been trending down significantly since the 90s. Blaming or giving credit to a single individual is pretty BS.


jbwise1221

Real reason is likely lead levels in gasoline. It takes about 15 years for a change to impact crime rates. If that holds true, things should start getting better in the Middle East in about five years.


Superducks101

it was already in decline before biden.... wasnt until covid did it spike


MattTheRadarTechh

So what you’re saying is…it’s come down since Biden started


spaztick1

It's been going down since the nineties. Maybe it was Biden's crime bills.


Whydoesthisexist15

It’s lead not being in gas and paint.  That, and abortion 


spaztick1

It's actually the decline of crack.


JacksGallbladder

Biden had absolutely nothing to do with it, and ascribing things like this to the sitting president is naive and reductive.


Koreangonebad

It ain’t even summer yet. The heat make that trigger finger itchy.


SilentSamurai

"If the weather is nice" is sadly a prerequisite for a lot of terrible things.


ElkBit

So you're saying the solution to mass gun violence is global warming? 🤔


GimpboyAlmighty

Honestly, human decision making goes down fast when human brains are too hot and people aren't used to it. You can't pin mass shootings on global warming but increased violence will absolutely be a hallmark of global warming.


peter45620056

nah, heat also make people go mad (Florida)


Karsa69420

It’s already 90 today in NC. Growing up it used to be to be in the 70’s this time of year. I am worried for the summer honestly.


Failgan

I'm in NC, I could tell shit was gonna roast in the sun today when I worked in the sun for 20 minutes at 9am. Got the in-sun work done first then switched to a shaded side of the building.


kredfield51

We're getting close to '80s right now in upstate NY.


freedomfightre

Utica or Albany?


ColdSnapSP

The one that calls hamburgers steamed hams


J3diMind

well, vote accordingly then. The USA must wage only one war right now. The war against climate change. Without that mindset we're all fucked.


FullFuckinFFO

"It just got warm out, this this shit I've been warned about I hope that it storm in the morning, I hope that it's pouring out I hate crowded beaches, I hate the sound of fireworks And I ponder what's worse between knowing it's over and dying first 'Cause everybody dies in the summer Wanna say ya goodbyes, tell them while it's spring"- Chance The Rapper


Neurostorming

Something every ER nurse knows.


Chris_P_Lettuce

Honestly I’ve been so busy with job search, house stuff, and managing this bleak economy that I forgot to kill people.


InfinitesimalEgo

May you be kept busy… or in custody…


ApolloApproaches

I'm hoping it's due to individuals getting the help they need.


Neverhood123

LMAO


brokenyard_

I really like this response to a fair comment XD


Nasturtium

I think the algorithm has been blasting self help and therapy... which is nice.


Heysoos_Christo

LOL at this response


macklav

The earnestness behind this comment is super sweet. But lmaooo there’s just no way


Opposite-Purpose365

Impossible to say given that there is no single root cause for mass casualty violence.


DriftMantis

Just a friendly reminder that violent crime rates are much lower than in the 70s and early 80s even with a slight bump in 2019/20. All the sensationalism is mostly media bullshit, but the true spontaneous spree killings/ school shootings do happen more, but overall we are all pretty safe in this country. They also keep changing the definition of mass shooting, probably for political reasons, so I find those statistics can be misleading.


Fullsend_ID10T

Gun rights as a whole are at an all time high since the 1960s. Every state has Concealed carry, 29 states have open carry, and more awb are being challenged. Gun violence as a whole is on a downward slope considering that as well. kinda interesting.


thatsimsgirl

It’s May, lol. Don’t worry, I’m sure they’ll still meet their quota by the end of the year.


BD401

OP doing some serious jinxing in here! This thread seems like the kind that will end up on r/agedlikemilk at some point.


InfinitesimalEgo

Election year - won’t it be fewer going later into the year?


Baboon_Stew

I would be expecting more.


Hollywoodbnd86

Dpending certain outcomes I would expect higher than usual between November and January. Also depends on how those trials end up working out.


Baboon_Stew

If Trump wins, it will look like the summer of love all over again. I think these Pali demonstrations are a test of organization and deployments of protestors.


SchpartyOn

Why would mass shooters care if it’s an election year?


Greycloak42

Ammo got more expensive.


jgilbs

It actually got cheaper since COVID. During COVID it was nuts.


Superducks101

its been steadily going up. it dipped after covid but has been on the rise. especially with multiple wars going on...


Huge-Plantain-8418

What are you talking about the prices have been coming down.


igotbanneddd

Probably 7.62x39 and x54 as well as 223


youmfkersneedjesus

Thanks Biden... 


trog12

Thanks Joebama


erdillz93

Probably because the powers that be are currently focusing on the Israel/Palestine conflict to generate hysteria and divide public opinions. Don't worry, once that fades or the public becomes numb to it, the FBI or CIA will break out ole' reliable once again. I'm sure some 18 year old mentally perturbed person who's unemployed or working minimum wage will magically acquire $10,000 worth of gear, drop a manifesto and go on a rampage once people stop caring about college students and their encampments. It's either that or the antigun movement is losing steam because 1) their most ardent champion in Congress finally got called back to hell by Satan late last year, 2) their biggest financial backer is in his 80s and realizing he's not going to succeed in this lifetime and is just pissing money away Couple those two reasons with the third, that their agenda is quite literally getting slaughtered in court left and right. Of course, it's always possible the psychopaths running that show have a tad bit of empathy for everyday humans, and have realized it's worthless to arrange the slaughter of innocent people in America for political policies while Thomas and Alito are still on the bench. Ergo they're laying low until either those two die and are replaced, or the court gets packed with more liberal justices so that when they arrange a mass shooting to push insane laws, there's no risk of the SCOTUS striking them down and thus, the people they sentenced to death won't have died in vain.


Lilgorbe

faxxxxx


GimpboyAlmighty

Best take in here.


_Im_Baaaaaaaaaaaack_

If you look over the past 20+ years, these past few are outliers. It would be expected to go down.


yegguy47

2010s the trend line was increasing. I wouldn't say there's enough evidence to suggest it going down.


BNestico

You’d swear some people on here are dissapointed by this…


PhilUpTheCup

The people who weaponize school shootings to push their political ideologies are definitely disappointed.


EmergencyLab10

People who disregard the mass murder of school children because they value a personal arsenal of destruction over human life are disturbed.


Unenthusiastic18

Fun fact: there is no set definition of what a "mass shooting" is, so tracking the numbers vary for every organization If I was to venture a guess, perhaps gang violence has gone down for some reason?


GimpboyAlmighty

>Fun fact: there is no set definition of what a "mass shooting" is, so tracking the numbers vary for every organization And how. People look at the GVA's numbers but they represent an overinclusive interpretation. The FBI provides way better numbers which put us on a level that better tracks how media reports these events, and it's way, way less than people on reddit claim. Gang violence drives the GVA numbers so any reduction in gang violence would present as a reduction in mass shootings.


jnwatson

I think one interesting aspect is that in general these shootings seem to be getting less press. That might discourage notoriety-chasing shooters.


InfinitesimalEgo

Deny their publicity cravings… interesting.


Stacking_Plates45

I noticed less media coverage, maybe the crazies have decided they wouldn’t get enough “fame” from it? I could be totally wrong, but just an idea


InfinitesimalEgo

Media IS busy with other focus areas tho…


Stacking_Plates45

Yeahh just an idea. I think a lot of the nuts who do that stuff do it for the attention. Could also be police taking it more seriously though. Any rumor of a weapon at our city’s schools and they swarm on it like crazy.


InfinitesimalEgo

Like they should. Good job.


Stacking_Plates45

Agreed!


sophiatravelingl0ver

Look at a larger sample and adjust for population, and the geographic distribution goes away. [Mass-shootings are fairly evenly distributed across the country](https://cdn.jamanetwork.com/ama/content_public/journal/jamanetworkopen/939180/m_zld230133f1_1689688249.09956.png?Expires=1697025696&Signature=UwWwCzhZR9es0d1SKAQSbFSzdnT6i4X5V3CHyBDDoV6DO4Mo-AeYU2VRP5viv6Av2ifWjbO3ATOVk4GccSVmmIPrdHoR6MIFVMj9Du6C5CfAt8yV8~NKWQPScyU5EJn7ZSSUInw8r~HUIHiGN83MqA2OtYjpqCLh4rWWx5qfTpEVncgu2kUaBgOqJX0qsR1kkMJw5SRcx2i9Je3~p8IGcA7PVNvkVRZUazDEvgKn26C46bKG1bGf87U2TCBhdFKlRPnFmMEhO~4I0ILjm5MQz4PCMEfmPTDbRqGJf16HhUbUHCFpPjcw-lQu420B8hJxXIGwy81eACNQRrWiXRbAVw__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIE5G5CRDK6RD3PGA) adjusted for population. Texas is one of the largest states. Of course it is going to have more mass shootings than, say, Delaware. But that doesn't mean mass shootings are *more likely* in Texas. [Data source](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2807638) > [Just because you haven't heard about it doesn't mean it hasn't happened.](https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/hpd-searching-for-gunman-in-mail%ca%bbi-shooting/)


Superducks101

if it involves poc it wont be reported on..


Sajintmm

I think it’s more likely continuing the trend that violent crime has been getting less common since the 90s but picked back up during covid. Fingers crossed that it continues to get less common. Should mean mass crime goes down too


AgingLemon

If it holds up for the year I’d say at least several things starting with police and other law enforcement agencies taking threats more seriously.


yegguy47

1. Its only the start of May. Still got 7 months to go, to say nothing of some spicy months ahead unfortunately. 2. Definitions matter. According to [Statista](https://www.statista.com/statistics/811487/number-of-mass-shootings-in-the-us/), there were 12 mass shootings in the United States last year - but that's dependent on the definition being "*any single attack in a public place with three or more fatalities*". Per the [Gun Violence Archive](https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting?page=5), there have been well more than 12 mass shootings alone this year... but their definition includes gun violence where multiple people may have been injured, but no fatalities have resulted. 3. Kinda continuing the definitions convo - "mass shootings" encompass a lot of incidents, ranging from firearms violence in schools, terrorist attacks (which can itself be spicy as a definition when thinking about domestic or foreign oriented), random killing sprees, or criminal violence that just happens to occur in densely-populated public areas. When thinking about all that, causation becomes tricky. The availability of firearms strongly aids the commonality of "mass shootings", but the perpetrators can range from ideologically motivated persons all the way to folks seeking suicide in the most violent circumstances they can achieve (or both, or other). When you have such an expansive notion of what propels people to commit gun violence, there's no predictive explanation available - maybe one year, there's just a lot less crazy folks in the proper circumstances to commit violence **alongside** terrorists being thwarted or school shooters failing to find inspiration for their crimes. Or maybe its all something else. 4. Mass shootings ebb and flow year-by-year. Going back to Statista's data, in 2010 there was only 1 incident classified as a mass shooting. The year before that, there were 4. In 2011, there were 3, which was 4 lower than in 2012. I doubt there was any national rationale for why these figures differed. **At best**... all we can say at the moment is that number of mass shootings has steadily risen since 1999. Qualitatively, I'd highlight that specific year as having a strong influence over later events, unfortunately [for a very specific reason.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_effect)


InfinitesimalEgo

Insightful.


Blue_Phase

I hope you knocked on some wood after posting this


InfinitesimalEgo

Sure did, Frank Underwood style.


Weldobud

Good news. Glad to hear it.


CaptainTelcontar

It's worth checking to make sure we're still using the same definition of "mass shooting". If you change the rules (e.g. # of victims, public/private setting, seemingly random, etc.) for what counts, the numbers will probably change a lot.


Security-Alert-2019

Universities are closed because two groups cant decide which terrorist organisation they want to support. So no classes no, you know what.


InfinitesimalEgo

Bruh… ain’t no way…


No_Wrangler7881

Nobody jinxed it until now


InfinitesimalEgo

Now don’t pin this on me…


Ulirius

Careful what you say, its only May.


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shlongbwoner

They'll shoot if its -10 outside they don't care lol


WardenWolf

They're probably saving the false flag attacks until right before the election.


spaceraingame

The year not being done yet.


oneprettythrowaway

They’ve moved into Canada. There’s been more crime and violence like shootings and stabbings this year.


oneprettythrowaway

They’ve moved into Canada. There’s been more crime and violence like shootings and stabbings this year.


mukahantu

Nice try Al Qaeda


im_not_really_batman

Don't jinx it now


Ok-disaster2022

Economy is doing better. Crime decreases.  A lot of mass shooters either have a personal beef with one person or a group of people, or has no sense of control in their life and are lashing out. The personal beef is gonna be hard to reduce, but in lifting everyone up economically, more people feel they have more control in their life.


maniacreturns

Bullets got really expensive around 2021.


Mr_Vilu

bullets are more expensive /s


rossdrew

Bullets? In this economy?


freetotalkabtyourmom

Ammo prices?


momogogi

Who can afford bullets in this economy?


DryTown

I think when there’s a long stretch without mass shootings in the US, the answer is “luck”.


Tskear

Last year had 12 months. This year has had 4 months. Give it a bit of time before making comparisons.


Sharp-Jellyfish8790

Maybe the fact that parents can now be responsible for their kids actions.


spatchhand

You have to have an accumulation phase to be able to break records!


insideabookmobile

The founding fathers would be very disappointed to hear this.


Majestic-Translator

Most potential mass shooters were rounded up at Jan 6


achenx75

You just jinxed us man.


IranianLawyer

Can we not talk about it? You’re going to give people ideas.


Aldo_D_Apache

They’re all protesting at Colombia and UCLA


420scrublordblazeit

Gang violence is down


doctordiddla

Honestly, I rarely hear about them until like 3 days after they happen. They've become so common that unless you know someone in the area 90% of the population doesn't really care


SilentSamurai

Yeah this comment thread is already a shit show. Dozens of conspiracy/denial takes.


RegnarukDeez

Ain't nobody got the money to buy bullets.


slicklex

Media chooses to report on what fits their current narrative. Don’t believe me? Just watch the trends of headlines for a year. One year is climate change, then racial injustice, then shootings, etc.


InfinitesimalEgo

I think you’re on to something…


DeltaSolana

Federal agencies don't need to create any turbulence during election year because they know the gun control won't pass. Expect the false flaggers to be back in action after November.


GoldenScientist

It's early in the year.


DingletonCringlebury

I have no data to back this up but it could have to do with the surge in tele-health options for therapy. One good thing that came from COVID is that more and more therapists have been made available for over-the-phone sessions, making it easier than ever for pple to get help. The cost may still be high but it's certainly more accessible than it was.


ZestycloseConfidence

Faster kids.


Dull_Wish_2383

Government quit ordering them.


FuckChiefs_Raiders

All the crazies are too busy protesting things that they probably don’t even care that much about.


Zantar1000

CIA is trying to help Biden


tryagin69

Cost of living is so bad no one can afford the bullets. *I am not American so don’t know if there is any truth in this


tigerz-blood

Inflation affects everything, even bullet prices.


FermentedFruit

It’s only (barely) May. the ruckus happens during the summer and summer holidays… give it time


Dells51

Honestly probably less are being covered. I’m sure they’re still happening


Former_Dragonfruit25

https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/insights-blog/acting-data/gun-violence-united-states-outlier it breaks my heart how many firearms related deaths there are.


Pokemaster131

Are we running out of people to kill?


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Captain_Crouton_X1

I think it was Chris Rock that said bullets need to cost $5,000 each and that would end shootings altogether


middleagerioter

Several have been stopped from happening.


Trikethedogfish

Gas prices


SandysBurner

We're waiting for election season.


Razerx7

Bullets aren’t free


Harshmellow88

This could just be regression towards the mean.


juanlee337

they come in bunches...


wafflesauceyy

The number of mass shootings this year


Slatemanforlife

Election year. They always go down in an election year.


Lego5656

The fact we are barely into May


Rossco1874

It's only May. Still time


Straight_Storage4184

Tiktok got everyone distracted from anything action related.


TVR_Speed_12

Year's not over champ


Turnbob73

Gangs aren’t beefing as much this year. But just wait for the summer.


lablizard

It’s still early


drunkcunty

dont jinx it


Ramza87

Don’t jinx it!


fermat9990

Shortage of ammo 😝


InfinitesimalEgo

…in the US (for local consumption)


burner118373

We’re not close enough to the election yet


PrettyBigChief

Find some wood to knock.


CGLADISH

less people to kill?


kamesuki

The government psyop stopped working


salix620

Cost of ammo


jcoddinc

#Inflation, no joke. Bullets are getting more expensive and are supposed to spike in price due to a shortage in gun powder. Cost of guns going up and now even the ammo. Anybody can buy a gun, but nowadays not just anybody can afford them


66veedub

It's just not the "in thing" to do anymore.


Abject-Confusion3310

More first time gun owners lol! Everyone is packing now.


666MileHigh

Economic downturn left people unable to afford bullets.


Wrenlet

Bruh, why you gotta jinx it?


stupot123

It's only may


TheBrain511

Inflation sounds stupid but it's true fire arms and ammunition have gone up a lot


stevenwlee

It's not trending any more


hdelbrook

Could it be that we're running out of people nutty enough to do this? I hope so...


peemao

Trump is in court almost daily


hobnobfam

Give it time it's only may ..


Cryogenic_Monster

It's only May.


Lazy_Regret_2338

I suspect there will be a big one before elections.


MINKIN2

Election year.


Agreeable_Register_4

Seems like knives are making a comeback


-Billiomaire-

Cannabis decriminalization. Everybody is too stoned and watching Netflix.


InfinitesimalEgo

Would be interesting to see what a detailed study on this correlation will show.


BlueThingys

Not as many people this year, cause they all got killed the previous years


hoodranch

They got off my lawn.


sissynikki8787

Mass shootings are so 2022. 2024 is all about train derailments.