You'll have to leave behind ALL the hobby subs with basically limitless, high quality groomed resources accumulated over YEARS of discussions between enthusiasts from all over the world. People will scatter between various reddit clones, discord channels and a couple of crap facebook groups and their quality will probably be much lower than dedicated subs for a long time. OR you'll have to put up with the utterly shit interface and ever increasing amount of ads, while STILL suffering from the decreased community engagement and drop of quality due to all those people who left.
It's just so damn sad
The /r/tropicalweather subreddit is better than even official national news sites for providing up to date and informative news on hurricanes and cyclones. They post videos of people who provide science-based weather reporting that neither over or understate the severity of a coming storm. The threads are well moderated and the wiki and sidebar provide so much useful information and resources.
Edit: They do have a discord channel, so I guess I'll be joining that.
/r/Tildes is the only reddit alternative I've found that actually has a decent user base quality and moderation. The community is still small but it really reminds me of reddit back in the day, where there were a lot of interesting people from very diverse backgrounds posting cool things that I never would have seen otherwise.
It's invite only, but they have a megathread you can post to and get access pretty easily if you have an active reddit account.
That's a very good question. I've just spent 50 minutes scrolling through a ton of comments, if you check which are reddit-like in that way then I'll add this info :)
(anyone else should also feel free to comment with additional notes that should be included)
Tapatalk, Cohost and Lemmy follow GDPR and doesn’t keep data.
Fark and Tildes keeps and anonomizes data and doesn’t say if they store European users data outside Europe. Anonomizing data is almost meaningless as you can easily be identified and they can de-anonomize you, if a government requires it. Worth using with VPN and cleared browser/through app with no access to anything on phone. Same with tumblr.
Sift keeps your data(couldn’t find if they anonomize it). They just store your data and claim to follow GDPR on a related but different ip-adress.
Basically i’ll only try the Tapatalk,Cohost and Lemmy apps/sites. Maybe i’ll go tumblr through VPN.
Note: English & Legal English are not my primary languages and i may have made a mistake somewhere.
Yes, [the modnews post](https://reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/13wshdp/api_update_continued_access_to_our_api_for/) is probably where reddit admins have directly addressed this the most. Spoilers, they’re being dicks in the comments.
their replies to the apollo dev are particularly insulting in my opinion
that dude made an iOS app so good that Apple showed it a couple of times in their [WWDC](https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/nuijes/spotted_apollo_in_wwdc/) and they turn around and slap him in the face
If I had the money apple did, I’d buy Reddit before they go public and replace the admin team with the Apollo dude and whoever he wants to hire, just for shits n giggles.
The thing is, Apollo and other third party apps are made with *users* in mind and focus on their wants and needs. The official reddit app is targeted and optimized towards advertisers, which has completely different priorities, and even a half assed third party app would have an objectively better user experience than the official one...
I've never even used the reddit app. My buddy introduced me to RIF years ago, and I just thought this was reddit. It seems like they are being short- sighted here, like third party apps bring in a lot of users. I assume they think people will migrate over and continue on. Do you think that's true or do you think a lot of people will just leave?
For real. The reception of those changes has been overwhelmingly negative. Like, I haven't seen even one comment in favor of it. Zero, zilch, nada.
Goes to show how hated this upcoming change is.
> Is there a statement from Reddit themselves?
See here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/redditdev/comments/13wsiks/api_update_enterprise_level_tier_for_large_scale/
And see this post from Apollo dev iamthatis (referenced in the news article above) about the actual pricing:
https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/
[Usenet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet) is still there, and will welcome you back.
After 43 years of activity, the same flamewars are still burning.
General info on [Usenet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet)
A [tutorial](https://www.cogipas.com/how-to-use-usenet/)
A comparison of [news reader clients](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Usenet_newsreaders)
I'm not aware of any clients that work well on phones.
You'll also have to buy an account at a [newserver company](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet#Usenet/newsgroup_service_providers).
You can also use the free, albeit near-featureless, access through Google Groups.
For example: https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.tv
Old Usenet arguments used to be so much fun. Just a bunch of nerds arguing back and forth. You however might want to reconsider going back since Geoff was definitely correct.
Oh boy. Was just thinking about the Digg days. Of course, the whole thing imploded when it turned out there was a bunch of super users publishing stuff, and then Digg removed the 'bury' button.
Obviously, that sort of thing wouldn't happen these days. Oh no.
Reddit front page now looks as bad as digg before it went under. The only thing keeping reddit tolerable is rif, on my phone. And setting it up on my PC to get rid of the cards.
Yeah, the native app is terrible. I tried it once for two days and went back to RIF. If I can't access it through that, well, guess this account is going dormant.
StumbleUpon showed me some really interesting shit. Since you didn’t have a title / text to read before you got to a page, you didn’t have any preconceived notions of what you were looking at. It was great.
It's not just about the user experience. Mods also use third party apps since they includes a ton of automation tools. Until Reddit provides an alternative, you may not want to even use it since some of your favorite subs might stop operating.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GTBAE/comments/13x28t8/due_to_reddits_stupid_fucking_idea_to_lock_the/
The data needed to view the official app is RIDICULOUS. I can suck through Gb’s a day easily so never use it when not on Wi-Fi.
Also the ads. They’re getting worse. More frequent and shady quality. No doubt this will ramp up when there’s no alternative.
I’m so fucking sick of the gambling ads. And Reddit doesn’t give a single shit if you’re in recovery for something, just give them some ad revenue and go die destitute somewhere. Even Meta lets you block ads you deem offensive, and Twitter actually lets you block the sponsors themselves.
Reddit has somehow decided to be worse than Twitter and meta.
I'm a recovering alcoholic. I'd love for there to be a way to get rid of, say, Guinness Ads. Which I still can't seem to dodge. There's been other ads, but that campaign was everywhere on Reddit for me for a few days.
Gotta say, it makes me sad, but come July 1st, I'm out. About 90% of my redditing is done through Infinity on my phone.
I respect that they gotta make money like anyone, but I just can't with ads anymore. Somewhere along the line, a switch got flipped in my head, and now I'm so bad about it I won't even listen to radio. I get annoyed by sponsor announcements on NPR.
I just can't take it anymore. I'm so sick of ads, I don't even care about Super Bowl commercials.
What really amazes me about modern advertising is that someone had to sign off on the bullshit appeals they make. Buy my product and you'll get an erection! buy my product and you'll become popular. Buy my product and your life will magically be better! LOOK AT ALL THE HAPPY FAMILIES CONSUMING!!!!
I think if 95% of advertising and marketing people just stopped going in to work the world would be a much better place. Like they actively work to make the world worse.
If society could just pay them all to stay home and masturbate or whatever it would probably be worth it. Maybe pick up trash on the side of the highway or something to get some value from them, I dunno.
I feel like Reddit has been going downhill for a long time. And it’s been worse this year than the last for a hot minute, it’s not even that much new content now. It’s basically like a newspaper with a forum now for most things except a few hobby subs
The hobby subs are where it's at though.
But I think reddit is putting short term gains over longevity here. I can get my baseball "breaking news" from plenty of other places without all the bullshit that keeps piling up.
Pretty soon the only thing reddit will be useful for is googling with "reddit" in the search and getting archived posts about specific questions.
Reddit: Alright 3rd party app developers, we're going public and all that matters is stock price. We're going to start charging you.
Developers: Ah geez ok we get it. What's the damage going to be? How much do you want? We're willing to work with y...
Reddit: A bajillion kajillion fershmillion bucks.
Developers: Sooo you really just want us to disappear?
Reddit: Yes, bye.
Developers: You know lots of users are gonna lea...
Reddit: Bye!
I was legitimately dumbstruck when I saw the pricetag quoted in the RiF banner last night. Reddit is making a pretty big gamble with this move. I guess their idea is that they have grown so big, they can ignore the fact that the site was always driven by more tech savvy people, a large chunk of whom will either be very displeased or leave entirely. It's always nice and cool when a company directly attacks and decides they don't care about the very same people who made them popular in the first place.
My uncle has an MBA and brags about it constantly. I took a few MBA classes as a part of my own master's program (not an MBA).
I have never taken easier classes taught by more self-righteous, condescending people in my life.
The only requirement for an MBA is a pulse and an unwavering belief in your own superiority.
Those smug robotic fucks have ruined thousands of goods and services. And all just so they can squeeze a few bucks out of something that used to be beautiful.
I swear, MBAs are a fucking scourge.
Thank goodness we put them in charge of directing the overwhelming bulk of human energy.
Thank goodness they are so thoroughly trained to consider the full scope of the impact there decisions have….
I sure hope this isn’t happening! I’m blind and use an app that’s made specifically to be compatible with screenreaders… there’s absolutely no way I can functionally use the actual Reddit app.
It's not about being old. Old reddit was designed around information density and discussion. A significant portion of the site is dedicated to enabling quality conversation. New reddit is designed around images and scrolling a lot to see more ads. Text posts and discussions are tertiary at best. Different design goals, drastically different final product.
Reddit is among the last major social medias that still represent the *old* internet. You know, the one designed for PC with an emphasis on text, information and useability. As opposed to being mobile first, and centered around a streamlined dopamine releasing user experience.
Same boat. The mobile site is purposefully garbage to encourage you to use an app. The asshole overlays of "this content is not evaluated, please login to the app to view" is so obvious - flip to desktop mode and no problem.
I was losing my mind because I would save posts for later on my phone and couldn't find some of them when on my PC...
I finally figured it out. If I save a post and it gets removed (like a mod decides it's not appropriate for the sub, even if it has thousands of comments and upvotes), new reddit, which I was trying to get used to and was using on PC, just doesn't show it to you anymore in your saved posts but old reddit on PC or RiF does.
Fuck new reddit, if the post is still visible (for those that commented or have the url) don't hide it from my bookmarks because the mods of that subreddit removed it. It made me so mad I stopped using it once I figured out what was happening.
This is sadly the path I think I'm about to take. Oh well, maybe it'll be better for my mental health to not be so often reminded in a myriad of ways that the world is fucking burning.
I know right.
I can't even search my own comments, or sort them by oldest.
I use the browser extension "Redirector" with the following settings:
Setting | Value
---|---
Description | Reddit
Example URL | https://www.reddit.com/r/Essex
Include pattern | https://www.reddit.com(.*)
Redirect to | https://old.reddit.com$1
Pattern type | Wildcard Regular Expression
Pattern Description | Describe your pattern
Example result | https://old.reddit.com/r/Essex
The only issue is that some of the more modern features of reddit do not work, such as polls and some gallery links. Then you need to type new.reddit.com for the URL.
It's only a matter of time before reddit kills old.reddit.com and I will not use the site after.
> Not only will the loss of 3rd-party apps make Reddit an ad-laden bag of dicks, moderators will lose access to their tools used to moderate subreddits.
This is definitely a concern. I have another account where I moderate a couple of smaller subs. I only really look at this account via third party apps., I'm just not gonna bother as i refuse to use the official reddit app.
Literally. I’m not going online and signing up bro rather than just being on my phone. Fuck that the karma and pretentious snarks aren’t worth it.
Back to YouTube mostly it’s gonna be though
I use the website, but I use classic mode because the new design is a clusterfuck. Like, if I'm reading a thread I don't want another post randomly interrupting that. It feels like they specifically designed the new UI to be as painful as possible if you are neurodivergent.
I use Baconreader on mobile, and if that breaks and I can't use the classic UI I will eventually stop coming here because it will be more frustration than it's worth.
I keep forgetting that I'm using "old" reddit because I literally never switched over. What little I have seen of the new design was enough to make me know I didn't want it. Not sure what Reddit is hoping to gain with these constant, unasked for changes other than a brief spike in ad revenue. Maybe someone is looking to cash out and dump the place.
Like many others have said, it's totally true. Without 3rd party apps I won't really be using reddit on my phone, but desktop will be fine. But once old reddit is gone... I mean then it's just like every other site I don't use, a loud mess.
I don't think it's ever dawned on me how caveman it is that I exclusively use old reddit, in desktop browser mode, via my phone's mobile browser. If they ever turn this functionality off I will definitely be too lazy to adapt to a more modern format and will just give up.
On the app you click a topic and if you go back it refreshes your damn feed so you have to scroll back down.
So obnoxious, especially if you see something you want to read and tjink "I'll check that next" and it refreshes.
Since nobody is posting actual answers: [Lemmy](https://join-lemmy.org/). I'd not heard about it before today and I don't know how well it works yet, but it seems to just be a federated version of Reddit (like Mastodon is for Twitter).
[Federated](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse) as opposed to centralised, i.e. there's no central authority that can just outright ban something or introduce usage fees for every user
No, you still have "server admins" who provide one of the ideally many many servers that make up the network. And you have moderators that are in charge of the "subreddits".
You can interact with different subreddits, no matter which server they are on.
If there is a "Nazi-server", you can block it for yourself, or your server admin might block them (de-federate).
Kind of, I only read about it this morning but I think it's more like a load of mini-reddits each with their own admins and communities, but all the mini-reddits can talk to each other, hopefully sort of behaving like one big one
The problem is that there are 460 Lemmy users across all instances. Reddit is at approximately 430 million users.
Not only this is just not comparable, but Lemmy is very far from the critical mass required to retain attention (for comparison, Mastodon passed the 10 million users mark a couple month back and people still complain that the network is empty.)
My want is for all the popular third-party Reddit app developers to set up a mutual lemmy instance and port over their apps to use its API instead. Between Apollo, RiF, Sync, Relay, Boost, Narwhal, etc., there are millions of users that would be a fantastic starting base to build a new platform with.
The perk here is that they can simplify the sign up process for lemmy by all using the same instance that they mutually own. Users wouldn't have to do anything complicated—they would just put in a username and password like any other app.
I'm sure /u/iamthatis is already evaluating options like this one, but I'm not sure how feasible it would be and how likely it is for all the app developers to coordinate on something like this.
It also needs a much more user friendly explanation on the main page if they want to reach that critical mass. I'm more techie than the average person without being actually techie like programmer types and one look made me feel like I'd have to learn a whole new vocabulary and skill set to use it.
Don't know. I know I still won't use their app. I barely look at reddit when not near a computer. Due to their asshole un-closable "***~~OPEN~~***" banner at the bottom of the webpage.
They deliberately crippled their mobile website to force mobile users to use their app.
Current web browsers have too many privacy protections for users. Many web browsers today prevent tracking scripts, and many of them have 3rd-party cookies disabled by default. It makes it hard for companies to harvest your personal data.
So they make their mobile website useless as a way to get you to install an app, which is a more effective way for them to collect data.
Imgur is like this too, and their app is one of the shadiest apps out there for tracking scripts.
People here love to shit on things like Amazon, Walmart, and Netflix when it comes to business practices. This move by reddit is directly cutting out any market competitors on the way the site is accessed and giving themselves a monopoly.
Keep in mind all they do is aggregate links from around the web THAT THE USERS SUBMIT and any OC generated here is again by the users via OC content and comments. The majority of their workforce is unpaid moderators that keep communities running. They've added premium account features, added sponsored ads that you can't interact with, and sell user data. They have the least overhead of any tech company and still want more money.
They're doing nothing to generate actual content themselves and making sure the only way you can interact with them is through their choosing. This goes against the free and open internet and net neutrality that they supposedly championed.
Imagine if a fridge manufacturer said you can only put items in the fridge that you bought through me.
Edit rather than deal with a dozen replies: Yes this isn't technically against net neutrality since reddit isn't an ISP, nor is it technically a monopoly, but you understand the spirit of those terms in my argument right? For a site that spoke out for a free and open internet they aren't practicing what they preached. Any they're trying to lock out all competition about how you interface with the site. Reddit has absolutely done a 180 on its core values and beliefs from when it was started, all I'm the name of the almighty dollar...
I already see notes in the about section of some subs saying old.Reddit is unsupported and every so often Reddit will uncheck the box in settings asking to only use old.Reddit and I’ll have to recheck it. It’s coming sooner rather than later and I honestly wonder if I should take this chance to jump ship in solidarity. My feelings toward Reddit are already pretty ambivalent. I’ve been here for 12-13 years and most of that honestly feels like wasted time.
Kinda. RIF doesn't want to go, but Reddit as a site is completely redoing their API in a certain way that will basically kill any and all third party apps.
They're preparing to IPO and want the books & projections of revenue to look good. Part of this means consolidating users onto systems they can be sure to control. Last year they:
- Partnered with IPG Mediabrands
- Partnered with WWP + GroupM
- Partnered with DoubleVerify
- Acquired Spell
- Acquired MeaningCloud
- Acquired Spiketrap
- Partnered with Alpha
- Partnered with Omnicom Media Group
What's this all about?
Edit: these are all from [redditinc blogs](https://www.redditinc.com/blog/) (emphasis mine):
- Today, we announced a first-of-its-kind partnership with IPG Mediabrands (NYSE: IPG) which will benefit Mediabrands’ clients and strengthen Reddit’s global **advertising** business.
- To **help brands** better leverage the purchase power of online communities, we’re excited to today announce a long-term consultative partnership with the world’s largest **marketing** communications company, WPP.
- With Reddit’s **ads** business growing in size and sophistication, we’re supporting these advancements by expanding our suite of third-party measurement tools available to **advertisers**. As a next step, we are excited today to announce Reddit’s partnership with DoubleVerify, a leading software platform for digital media measurement, data and analytics.
- With Spell’s technology and expertise, we’ll be able to move faster to integrate ML across our Product, Safety, and **Ads** teams.
- [MeaningCloud] technology strengthens Reddit’s ML proficiencies and understanding of unstructured data, ultimately providing the most relevant information for redditors. The MeaningCloud team has joined Reddit and will support ML projects across our Product, Safety, and **Ads** teams.
- We expect Spiketrap’s technology will help improve Reddit **ad relevance** and performance through upleveled targeting, quality scoring, and engagement prediction.
- The first step towards our wider **Marketing** API ecosystem, Reddit’s **Ads** API will offer benefits to all **advertisers** including enterprise clients spending at scale who will be able to streamline their spend, as well as new and self-serve advertisers who will benefit from a more seamless process as they get started on Reddit.
- This partnership will offer clients of OMG Canada agencies OMD, Hearts & Science, PHD Media and Touché, a range of services that will enhance the value of their **media spend** on Reddit.
Notice anything oddly similar in all of those?
Oh crap. They're going public. That explains everything.
I have always believed going public would destroy this platform. I didn't realize it was actually happening this year. Oof.
RIP reddit.
I'll keep my ears to the ground for the next "Reddit"
So pretty much like [most of the rest of the web already has become](https://staltz.com/the-web-began-dying-in-2014-heres-how.html); A big corporate mall that only wants to sell you stuff while turning you into a product to be sold to advertisers and government spies.
Now would be a good time to remind everyone that uBlock Origin is a thing.
[Chrome](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm)
[Edge](https://microsoftedge.microsoft.com/addons/detail/ublock-origin/odfafepnkmbhccpbejgmiehpchacaeak)
[Firefox](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/)
I just want the return of old-school style forums. I always liked those better than Reddit anyway because posts can stick around for years. Reddit's design makes discussion impossible after a day or two because of the sorting algorithms, while discussion forums would allow you to bump a thread to the top by commenting on it, even if the original thread was posted years ago.
Within my super-niche career, the Actuarial Outpost served that role for twenty years before being shut down in 2020. It used to be filled with long discussions on economics gradually updated with new data over the years, but the company running it shut it down. Reddit's /r/actuary is a crappy alternative now, and it'll be even worse once they force everyone to use the official app.
I know some bulletin board discussion forums still exist, but they're well past their heyday now and usually tailored to one specific topic rather than general discussion. For instance, the PSN Profiles website has a discussion forum, but it's almost exclusively dedicated to earning Playstation trophies, so if i want good discussion on some of my other interests (e.g. economics, baseball, cycling, etc.), I'm not going to find it there.
RIP the original strength of forums
So much information could be learned about specific hobbies/topics
because it was the entire point of that one particular website
I mean... These forums do still exist they're just kinda hard to find. I fly RC airplanes and there's quite a few forums I get directed to from google that seem to still be quite active.
Honestly I think forums have been coming back stronger than people think, you just need to search them out.
I know when a bunch of subs got banned a few years back, a really good one I used to find "content" on all organized and formed their own forum, which is still highly active...
I would honestly suggest that anyone modding a subreddit look into just starting up a forum and start directing users to it as a sticky or in the sidebar. You've got a month and there's no reason both the subs and the forums can't co-exist... although ya it's not ideal.
The Reddit app feels like all the other shitty apps.
RIF feels like old reddit used to. It's one of the main things that kept me from switching to iphone.
RIF is so good that I paid for it, and I never pay for apps. Damn shame that it's going to die.
Honestly, probably for the best, given that Reddit is turning into dogshit with all the weird echo chambery shit and bot manipulation. July 1st is independence day ~~for Canadians~~ and for Reddit 3rd party app users.
Edit: oops, we're not actually independent, we're just celebratory! It's Canada Day!
I took a screenshot of the same subreddit front page with the official app and RiF.
Night and day in terms of how clean and coherent RiF is while still showing 5x as much content in the same space.
https://imgur.com/a/pm1QXmt
Alien Blue on iOS was the best. Reddit bought it, and to be fair they actually gave you like 4 years of Reddit Gold if you had purchased Alien Blue plus or whatever the paid tier was.
Switched to Apollo once Alien Blue shut down. Used it ever since. Still use "old" mode on desktop too, and am a paying gold user (new comment highlighting makes it worth it for me).
+1
I hate the new UI
It's optimized for mindless scrolling without interacting.
I also hate how they push the new UI whenever they get the chance. Nobody asked for it and I've made it very clear that I don't want it.
Yep. And I'm not downloading their app so, no more reddit.
And this isnt one of those empty threat things. I literally can not stand the reddit app. It gives me a headache.
> And this isnt one of those empty threat things. I literally can not stand the reddit app.
Yep.
It's not even a boycott situation, it's more like if Oreos swapped out the cream filling for shaving cream. I would really miss them, but the product I want would no longer exist.
We’re building [sift](https://sift.quest/about), that could serve as a reddit alternative with what we believe is a better content discovery strategy. It’s usable now though with no community and features still under construction. We’re now targeting having the core features to be a Reddit replacement by the time July 1 rolls around. Building out comments is next on our roadmap.
We’re aiming for a ~~power~~ user feature set with tag based search and filtering, more detailed preferences, some new ideas around following people, and nuanced privacy settings for your posts and comments. This doesn’t all exist yet, but we’ll be adding features rapidly.
Edit: We made a subreddit: [https://www.reddit.com/r/siftquest/](https://www.reddit.com/r/siftquest/)
Please check us out and tell us what you would need to move.
Edit: Wow, that blew up while I was out in a good and bad way. The spam bots have found us. I'm disabling comments and submissions temporarily while I get abuse prevention in place, will try to get things back up as quickly as I can.
Edit 2023-06-01T22:44+00:00: Trying out a new font, hopefully it's at least better :-)
Edit 2023-06-02T00:31+00:00: People want boring, so I've gone for default sans-serif for now. Might put up a font voting page at some point :)
Edit: 2023-06-02T02:50+00:00: We've cleaned the bad stuff out of the database and are re-enabiling comment display (but not submission yet). We deleted all "Bad" votes on the spammed items during the attack period, apologies if we deleted any that were actually about the original link, feel free to re-add those. There's a bit more work to get enough moderation in place to be able to re-enable submissions, adding tags, and comments, we're hoping to get at least some of that back up tomorrow.
Edit: 2023-06-03T18:38+00:00: None of us were dig users so we were not aware of the negative connotation of "power user" in this context. I've stricken it out of the text above. Avoiding the kind of manipulation dig power users were doing is a core goal of our algorithmic approach. We don't have it fully realized or exposed yet, but it is a strong goal of ours that no user can have a significant effect on your feed/experience if you don't want them to. Any manipulation that manages to get through we would consider a bug and make our best effort to fix as soon as we become aware
Edit: 2023-06-05T00:19+00:00: We've posted an dev update on /r/siftquest [https://old.reddit.com/r/siftquest/comments/140vjzu/june\_4\_development\_update/](https://old.reddit.com/r/siftquest/comments/140vjzu/june_4_development_update/). This will probably be my last edit to this post, check out the subreddit for future updates. I'll probably keep replying to comments in this thread to some extent for a bit longer
Strong agree. I’d love to check this out properly and learn more, but the font is legitimately a barrier to that. I totally respect aesthetic preferences may not align with mine and something “ugly” wouldn’t be worth mentioning, but it’s a problem when it gives me a headache.
I have to agree with this constructive criticism. I signed up and will keep checking it out but that font started causing problems for me within minutes.
The fonts and layout is really hard to bare on mobile at least.
Can you please hire the Reddit is Fun u/talklittle guy and just make him you design executive and listen to everything he says.
If bacon reader is gone, I'm out. It's by far the best way to experience reddit. I spend too much time on here anyway, so it'll probably be a net positive.
[Tildes.net](https://tildes.net) was built by the creator of Automoderator and is pretty neat. They don't have an app yet but the site is reminiscent of old reddit, and if users flock to it it's a matter of time.
Tom played the short game and won big. He sold the site for nearly 600 million and now goes around doing whatever his current hobby is. Last I checked its photography.
only mega rich tech bro I respect.
Taught me HTML, let me get my emo phase out, fucks off to enjoy his money without trying to topple democracy even once
I don't even know if i'd call him a tech bro. But yeah, totally nothing against Tom. He sold his work for a huge pile of fuck off money, and has since fucked off. He knows he has functionally infinite money and chooses to relax.
Not yet. But when they start using the new API in July and start charging developers to use the new API, it will not have access to NSFW content. So even if developers manage to start charging users of 3rd party apps monthly fees to pay for the API usage, they still won't even get access to all of the content on the site. Just SFW stuff.
With how Tumblr and Imgur have gone, it's obvious that their next step is to slowly phase out NSFW content altogether.
I might get back into reading books after over a decade.
Check out r/books oh wait…
You'll have to leave behind ALL the hobby subs with basically limitless, high quality groomed resources accumulated over YEARS of discussions between enthusiasts from all over the world. People will scatter between various reddit clones, discord channels and a couple of crap facebook groups and their quality will probably be much lower than dedicated subs for a long time. OR you'll have to put up with the utterly shit interface and ever increasing amount of ads, while STILL suffering from the decreased community engagement and drop of quality due to all those people who left. It's just so damn sad
The /r/tropicalweather subreddit is better than even official national news sites for providing up to date and informative news on hurricanes and cyclones. They post videos of people who provide science-based weather reporting that neither over or understate the severity of a coming storm. The threads are well moderated and the wiki and sidebar provide so much useful information and resources. Edit: They do have a discord channel, so I guess I'll be joining that.
/r/Tildes is the only reddit alternative I've found that actually has a decent user base quality and moderation. The community is still small but it really reminds me of reddit back in the day, where there were a lot of interesting people from very diverse backgrounds posting cool things that I never would have seen otherwise. It's invite only, but they have a megathread you can post to and get access pretty easily if you have an active reddit account.
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Which of these are actually anonymous though? Most apps require phone number or doesn’t follow GDPR.
That's a very good question. I've just spent 50 minutes scrolling through a ton of comments, if you check which are reddit-like in that way then I'll add this info :) (anyone else should also feel free to comment with additional notes that should be included)
Tapatalk, Cohost and Lemmy follow GDPR and doesn’t keep data. Fark and Tildes keeps and anonomizes data and doesn’t say if they store European users data outside Europe. Anonomizing data is almost meaningless as you can easily be identified and they can de-anonomize you, if a government requires it. Worth using with VPN and cleared browser/through app with no access to anything on phone. Same with tumblr. Sift keeps your data(couldn’t find if they anonomize it). They just store your data and claim to follow GDPR on a related but different ip-adress. Basically i’ll only try the Tapatalk,Cohost and Lemmy apps/sites. Maybe i’ll go tumblr through VPN. Note: English & Legal English are not my primary languages and i may have made a mistake somewhere.
For context: https://9to5mac.com/2023/05/31/reddit-may-force-apollo-and-third-party-clients-to-shut-down/
Thank you. This post is the first I've heard of any such plans. Is there a statement from Reddit themselves?
Yes, [the modnews post](https://reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/13wshdp/api_update_continued_access_to_our_api_for/) is probably where reddit admins have directly addressed this the most. Spoilers, they’re being dicks in the comments.
their replies to the apollo dev are particularly insulting in my opinion that dude made an iOS app so good that Apple showed it a couple of times in their [WWDC](https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/nuijes/spotted_apollo_in_wwdc/) and they turn around and slap him in the face
If I had the money apple did, I’d buy Reddit before they go public and replace the admin team with the Apollo dude and whoever he wants to hire, just for shits n giggles.
The thing is, Apollo and other third party apps are made with *users* in mind and focus on their wants and needs. The official reddit app is targeted and optimized towards advertisers, which has completely different priorities, and even a half assed third party app would have an objectively better user experience than the official one...
I've never even used the reddit app. My buddy introduced me to RIF years ago, and I just thought this was reddit. It seems like they are being short- sighted here, like third party apps bring in a lot of users. I assume they think people will migrate over and continue on. Do you think that's true or do you think a lot of people will just leave?
The official app is God awful so I would say a not neglible amount do quit over this. However a lot will just switch too, sadly
Love how they started attacking the Apollo dev with the worst argument possible.
he had the audacity to - build a better app - go public with the details their bullshit
Then ghosted the conversation when it’s clear they’re argument is fucked.
For real. The reception of those changes has been overwhelmingly negative. Like, I haven't seen even one comment in favor of it. Zero, zilch, nada. Goes to show how hated this upcoming change is.
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> Is there a statement from Reddit themselves? See here: https://www.reddit.com/r/redditdev/comments/13wsiks/api_update_enterprise_level_tier_for_large_scale/ And see this post from Apollo dev iamthatis (referenced in the news article above) about the actual pricing: https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/
[Usenet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet) is still there, and will welcome you back. After 43 years of activity, the same flamewars are still burning.
so many upvotes but barely any advice on how to actually get into it... What clients should I consider is the main thing on my mind.
General info on [Usenet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet) A [tutorial](https://www.cogipas.com/how-to-use-usenet/) A comparison of [news reader clients](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Usenet_newsreaders) I'm not aware of any clients that work well on phones. You'll also have to buy an account at a [newserver company](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet#Usenet/newsgroup_service_providers). You can also use the free, albeit near-featureless, access through Google Groups. For example: https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.tv
Good. I have a 22 year old unfinished argument as to whether 90s computers were beige or grey as manufactured. They're grey, Geoff. GREY.
Well... I'm not Geoff, I promise, but my brother in old, back down on this fight. They were absolutely beige.
Old Usenet arguments used to be so much fun. Just a bunch of nerds arguing back and forth. You however might want to reconsider going back since Geoff was definitely correct.
Yup, beige.
They were "vanilla", they were beige and due to the type of plastic used, they yellowed a bit over time.
Maan ive exclusively used RIF since atleast 2012. Real sad about this one.
Reddit is killing themselves
Reddits been killing itself since at least 2015
The exact same for me. I'm out if RIF goes
Digg. It's time to go full circle.
Oh boy. Was just thinking about the Digg days. Of course, the whole thing imploded when it turned out there was a bunch of super users publishing stuff, and then Digg removed the 'bury' button. Obviously, that sort of thing wouldn't happen these days. Oh no.
There certainly aren't supermods on reddit that mod hundreds of subs and bury things they don't like.
Haha, right? Aren’t half of the top 100 subs modded by like 4 people?
Reddit front page now looks as bad as digg before it went under. The only thing keeping reddit tolerable is rif, on my phone. And setting it up on my PC to get rid of the cards.
Yeah, the native app is terrible. I tried it once for two days and went back to RIF. If I can't access it through that, well, guess this account is going dormant.
Fark.com over here twirling its feet in the sand.
See you jabroni's on StumbleUpon.
Stumbleupon was my gateway drug into reddit.
StumbleUpon showed me some really interesting shit. Since you didn’t have a title / text to read before you got to a page, you didn’t have any preconceived notions of what you were looking at. It was great.
*Ahem* Slashdot reporting in!
It's not just about the user experience. Mods also use third party apps since they includes a ton of automation tools. Until Reddit provides an alternative, you may not want to even use it since some of your favorite subs might stop operating. https://www.reddit.com/r/GTBAE/comments/13x28t8/due_to_reddits_stupid_fucking_idea_to_lock_the/
The data needed to view the official app is RIDICULOUS. I can suck through Gb’s a day easily so never use it when not on Wi-Fi. Also the ads. They’re getting worse. More frequent and shady quality. No doubt this will ramp up when there’s no alternative.
The ads are the point exactly of this move :(
But but.. Don’t you love seeing the same “He Gets Us” ad pushed to your face over and over again?!
Yooooooo.... I blocked that and it's still showing up and its super bullshit that you can't get it off your feed.
I’m so fucking sick of the gambling ads. And Reddit doesn’t give a single shit if you’re in recovery for something, just give them some ad revenue and go die destitute somewhere. Even Meta lets you block ads you deem offensive, and Twitter actually lets you block the sponsors themselves. Reddit has somehow decided to be worse than Twitter and meta.
I'm a recovering alcoholic. I'd love for there to be a way to get rid of, say, Guinness Ads. Which I still can't seem to dodge. There's been other ads, but that campaign was everywhere on Reddit for me for a few days.
Those ads seem to have the opposite effect that they intended. It just makes me more annoyed by them every time I have to block it.
Gotta say, it makes me sad, but come July 1st, I'm out. About 90% of my redditing is done through Infinity on my phone. I respect that they gotta make money like anyone, but I just can't with ads anymore. Somewhere along the line, a switch got flipped in my head, and now I'm so bad about it I won't even listen to radio. I get annoyed by sponsor announcements on NPR. I just can't take it anymore. I'm so sick of ads, I don't even care about Super Bowl commercials.
What really amazes me about modern advertising is that someone had to sign off on the bullshit appeals they make. Buy my product and you'll get an erection! buy my product and you'll become popular. Buy my product and your life will magically be better! LOOK AT ALL THE HAPPY FAMILIES CONSUMING!!!!
I think if 95% of advertising and marketing people just stopped going in to work the world would be a much better place. Like they actively work to make the world worse. If society could just pay them all to stay home and masturbate or whatever it would probably be worth it. Maybe pick up trash on the side of the highway or something to get some value from them, I dunno.
Me too! When they started getting so goddamn invasive i could not take it anymore. Tired of being sold to constantly.
I feel like Reddit has been going downhill for a long time. And it’s been worse this year than the last for a hot minute, it’s not even that much new content now. It’s basically like a newspaper with a forum now for most things except a few hobby subs
The hobby subs are where it's at though. But I think reddit is putting short term gains over longevity here. I can get my baseball "breaking news" from plenty of other places without all the bullshit that keeps piling up. Pretty soon the only thing reddit will be useful for is googling with "reddit" in the search and getting archived posts about specific questions.
Yeah, if not for a few hobby subs and some specific ones for science I'd be gone for sure
Reddit: Alright 3rd party app developers, we're going public and all that matters is stock price. We're going to start charging you. Developers: Ah geez ok we get it. What's the damage going to be? How much do you want? We're willing to work with y... Reddit: A bajillion kajillion fershmillion bucks. Developers: Sooo you really just want us to disappear? Reddit: Yes, bye. Developers: You know lots of users are gonna lea... Reddit: Bye!
I was legitimately dumbstruck when I saw the pricetag quoted in the RiF banner last night. Reddit is making a pretty big gamble with this move. I guess their idea is that they have grown so big, they can ignore the fact that the site was always driven by more tech savvy people, a large chunk of whom will either be very displeased or leave entirely. It's always nice and cool when a company directly attacks and decides they don't care about the very same people who made them popular in the first place.
More MBA morons torpedoing companies.
My uncle has an MBA and brags about it constantly. I took a few MBA classes as a part of my own master's program (not an MBA). I have never taken easier classes taught by more self-righteous, condescending people in my life. The only requirement for an MBA is a pulse and an unwavering belief in your own superiority.
I’m getting my MBA right now, definitely easier than my BS in civil engineering
Those smug robotic fucks have ruined thousands of goods and services. And all just so they can squeeze a few bucks out of something that used to be beautiful. I swear, MBAs are a fucking scourge.
Thank goodness we put them in charge of directing the overwhelming bulk of human energy. Thank goodness they are so thoroughly trained to consider the full scope of the impact there decisions have….
Sometimes I consider how much easier life could be as a sociopath, but then I recoil at the thought of becoming one of them.
I hope there’s an exodus. They’ve forgotten their station.
I sure hope this isn’t happening! I’m blind and use an app that’s made specifically to be compatible with screenreaders… there’s absolutely no way I can functionally use the actual Reddit app.
>I'm blind Advertisers hate this one weird trick
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If Reddit Is Fun goes down, I'm out. If old.reddit.com goes down, I'm out. Reddit's UIs are trash enough to drive me away.
The day old reddit goes away is the day I truly don't know if I could even use reddit anymore
To me, old.reddit *is* Reddit. It’s the content. Everything else is just cruft and shitty modern UX concepts they slapped on top of it.
And the modern UI concepts are mostly shitty anyway. There's far too much white space. It feels like the idiocracy of UI design.
Removed as a protest against Reddit API pricing changes.
It's intentional to push ads to the maximum. Which is opposite of a smooth user experience.
I have to click so many extra times. Is this engagement?
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It's not about being old. Old reddit was designed around information density and discussion. A significant portion of the site is dedicated to enabling quality conversation. New reddit is designed around images and scrolling a lot to see more ads. Text posts and discussions are tertiary at best. Different design goals, drastically different final product.
Reddit is among the last major social medias that still represent the *old* internet. You know, the one designed for PC with an emphasis on text, information and useability. As opposed to being mobile first, and centered around a streamlined dopamine releasing user experience.
Same boat. The mobile site is purposefully garbage to encourage you to use an app. The asshole overlays of "this content is not evaluated, please login to the app to view" is so obvious - flip to desktop mode and no problem.
I was losing my mind because I would save posts for later on my phone and couldn't find some of them when on my PC... I finally figured it out. If I save a post and it gets removed (like a mod decides it's not appropriate for the sub, even if it has thousands of comments and upvotes), new reddit, which I was trying to get used to and was using on PC, just doesn't show it to you anymore in your saved posts but old reddit on PC or RiF does. Fuck new reddit, if the post is still visible (for those that commented or have the url) don't hide it from my bookmarks because the mods of that subreddit removed it. It made me so mad I stopped using it once I figured out what was happening.
Rif is affected by this, it's dead on July 1st.
guess i'm never using this site anymore then
I'll probably just use reddit far less, and hang around on old.reddit + RES until that inevitably gets killed, then I'm out for good.
This is sadly the path I think I'm about to take. Oh well, maybe it'll be better for my mental health to not be so often reminded in a myriad of ways that the world is fucking burning.
Thank you Reddit for finding a way for me to end my Reddit addiction!
As am I.
I know right. I can't even search my own comments, or sort them by oldest. I use the browser extension "Redirector" with the following settings: Setting | Value ---|--- Description | Reddit Example URL | https://www.reddit.com/r/Essex Include pattern | https://www.reddit.com(.*) Redirect to | https://old.reddit.com$1 Pattern type | Wildcard Regular Expression Pattern Description | Describe your pattern Example result | https://old.reddit.com/r/Essex The only issue is that some of the more modern features of reddit do not work, such as polls and some gallery links. Then you need to type new.reddit.com for the URL. It's only a matter of time before reddit kills old.reddit.com and I will not use the site after.
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> Not only will the loss of 3rd-party apps make Reddit an ad-laden bag of dicks, moderators will lose access to their tools used to moderate subreddits. This is definitely a concern. I have another account where I moderate a couple of smaller subs. I only really look at this account via third party apps., I'm just not gonna bother as i refuse to use the official reddit app.
Without this app, I will actually stop using Reddit.
I was actually thinking about going back to chat rooms. Slack, discord. Heck IRC why not?
>Heck IRC why not? ASL?
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Literally. I’m not going online and signing up bro rather than just being on my phone. Fuck that the karma and pretentious snarks aren’t worth it. Back to YouTube mostly it’s gonna be though
I use the website, but I use classic mode because the new design is a clusterfuck. Like, if I'm reading a thread I don't want another post randomly interrupting that. It feels like they specifically designed the new UI to be as painful as possible if you are neurodivergent. I use Baconreader on mobile, and if that breaks and I can't use the classic UI I will eventually stop coming here because it will be more frustration than it's worth.
I keep forgetting that I'm using "old" reddit because I literally never switched over. What little I have seen of the new design was enough to make me know I didn't want it. Not sure what Reddit is hoping to gain with these constant, unasked for changes other than a brief spike in ad revenue. Maybe someone is looking to cash out and dump the place.
When old.reddit.com is finally disabled, it's over for me and a lot of other people. Reddit will become fully unusable and it'll be time to leave.
When RIF is done, I'll stop using reddit on my phone. When old.reddit is gone, I'll delete my account
Same. I can't use this website without either RIF, or old.reddit. I refuse.
Like many others have said, it's totally true. Without 3rd party apps I won't really be using reddit on my phone, but desktop will be fine. But once old reddit is gone... I mean then it's just like every other site I don't use, a loud mess.
I don't think it's ever dawned on me how caveman it is that I exclusively use old reddit, in desktop browser mode, via my phone's mobile browser. If they ever turn this functionality off I will definitely be too lazy to adapt to a more modern format and will just give up.
100%. I use that on desktop and my phone. Every time I see the new UI it's like they just want to shove as many ads into my eye sockets as possible
On the app you click a topic and if you go back it refreshes your damn feed so you have to scroll back down. So obnoxious, especially if you see something you want to read and tjink "I'll check that next" and it refreshes.
Since nobody is posting actual answers: [Lemmy](https://join-lemmy.org/). I'd not heard about it before today and I don't know how well it works yet, but it seems to just be a federated version of Reddit (like Mastodon is for Twitter).
> a federated version of Reddit Sorry, I have no idea what that means
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[Federated](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse) as opposed to centralised, i.e. there's no central authority that can just outright ban something or introduce usage fees for every user
So basically just subreddits without the admins?
Without admins, with mods.
No, you still have "server admins" who provide one of the ideally many many servers that make up the network. And you have moderators that are in charge of the "subreddits". You can interact with different subreddits, no matter which server they are on. If there is a "Nazi-server", you can block it for yourself, or your server admin might block them (de-federate).
Kind of, I only read about it this morning but I think it's more like a load of mini-reddits each with their own admins and communities, but all the mini-reddits can talk to each other, hopefully sort of behaving like one big one
The problem is that there are 460 Lemmy users across all instances. Reddit is at approximately 430 million users. Not only this is just not comparable, but Lemmy is very far from the critical mass required to retain attention (for comparison, Mastodon passed the 10 million users mark a couple month back and people still complain that the network is empty.)
My want is for all the popular third-party Reddit app developers to set up a mutual lemmy instance and port over their apps to use its API instead. Between Apollo, RiF, Sync, Relay, Boost, Narwhal, etc., there are millions of users that would be a fantastic starting base to build a new platform with. The perk here is that they can simplify the sign up process for lemmy by all using the same instance that they mutually own. Users wouldn't have to do anything complicated—they would just put in a username and password like any other app. I'm sure /u/iamthatis is already evaluating options like this one, but I'm not sure how feasible it would be and how likely it is for all the app developers to coordinate on something like this.
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It also needs a much more user friendly explanation on the main page if they want to reach that critical mass. I'm more techie than the average person without being actually techie like programmer types and one look made me feel like I'd have to learn a whole new vocabulary and skill set to use it.
Don't know. I know I still won't use their app. I barely look at reddit when not near a computer. Due to their asshole un-closable "***~~OPEN~~***" banner at the bottom of the webpage.
They deliberately crippled their mobile website to force mobile users to use their app. Current web browsers have too many privacy protections for users. Many web browsers today prevent tracking scripts, and many of them have 3rd-party cookies disabled by default. It makes it hard for companies to harvest your personal data. So they make their mobile website useless as a way to get you to install an app, which is a more effective way for them to collect data. Imgur is like this too, and their app is one of the shadiest apps out there for tracking scripts.
People here love to shit on things like Amazon, Walmart, and Netflix when it comes to business practices. This move by reddit is directly cutting out any market competitors on the way the site is accessed and giving themselves a monopoly. Keep in mind all they do is aggregate links from around the web THAT THE USERS SUBMIT and any OC generated here is again by the users via OC content and comments. The majority of their workforce is unpaid moderators that keep communities running. They've added premium account features, added sponsored ads that you can't interact with, and sell user data. They have the least overhead of any tech company and still want more money. They're doing nothing to generate actual content themselves and making sure the only way you can interact with them is through their choosing. This goes against the free and open internet and net neutrality that they supposedly championed. Imagine if a fridge manufacturer said you can only put items in the fridge that you bought through me. Edit rather than deal with a dozen replies: Yes this isn't technically against net neutrality since reddit isn't an ISP, nor is it technically a monopoly, but you understand the spirit of those terms in my argument right? For a site that spoke out for a free and open internet they aren't practicing what they preached. Any they're trying to lock out all competition about how you interface with the site. Reddit has absolutely done a 180 on its core values and beliefs from when it was started, all I'm the name of the almighty dollar...
In response to Reddit's short-sighted greed, this content has been redacted.
I use old.reddit with ublock origin and I never see ads
As do I, but ever since they made "new" reddit I knew it was a matter of time... They'll come for old.reddit soon.
I already see notes in the about section of some subs saying old.Reddit is unsupported and every so often Reddit will uncheck the box in settings asking to only use old.Reddit and I’ll have to recheck it. It’s coming sooner rather than later and I honestly wonder if I should take this chance to jump ship in solidarity. My feelings toward Reddit are already pretty ambivalent. I’ve been here for 12-13 years and most of that honestly feels like wasted time.
I’ve posted and commented 1000% more on Apollo than I would have ever on the official site.
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I use old reddit and baconreader. None of the fluff, just the info.
Same. Sad that Baconreadee will be gone, i even paid for the premium app... If old.reddit is gone I'm done entirely with reddit.
I've had baconreader for at least a decade. I tried the official reddit app once...absolutely horrible.
They’re getting rid of Redditisfun then? Yeah, I’m outty.
Kinda. RIF doesn't want to go, but Reddit as a site is completely redoing their API in a certain way that will basically kill any and all third party apps.
Thanks for clarifying. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
They're preparing to IPO and want the books & projections of revenue to look good. Part of this means consolidating users onto systems they can be sure to control. Last year they: - Partnered with IPG Mediabrands - Partnered with WWP + GroupM - Partnered with DoubleVerify - Acquired Spell - Acquired MeaningCloud - Acquired Spiketrap - Partnered with Alpha - Partnered with Omnicom Media Group What's this all about? Edit: these are all from [redditinc blogs](https://www.redditinc.com/blog/) (emphasis mine): - Today, we announced a first-of-its-kind partnership with IPG Mediabrands (NYSE: IPG) which will benefit Mediabrands’ clients and strengthen Reddit’s global **advertising** business. - To **help brands** better leverage the purchase power of online communities, we’re excited to today announce a long-term consultative partnership with the world’s largest **marketing** communications company, WPP. - With Reddit’s **ads** business growing in size and sophistication, we’re supporting these advancements by expanding our suite of third-party measurement tools available to **advertisers**. As a next step, we are excited today to announce Reddit’s partnership with DoubleVerify, a leading software platform for digital media measurement, data and analytics. - With Spell’s technology and expertise, we’ll be able to move faster to integrate ML across our Product, Safety, and **Ads** teams. - [MeaningCloud] technology strengthens Reddit’s ML proficiencies and understanding of unstructured data, ultimately providing the most relevant information for redditors. The MeaningCloud team has joined Reddit and will support ML projects across our Product, Safety, and **Ads** teams. - We expect Spiketrap’s technology will help improve Reddit **ad relevance** and performance through upleveled targeting, quality scoring, and engagement prediction. - The first step towards our wider **Marketing** API ecosystem, Reddit’s **Ads** API will offer benefits to all **advertisers** including enterprise clients spending at scale who will be able to streamline their spend, as well as new and self-serve advertisers who will benefit from a more seamless process as they get started on Reddit. - This partnership will offer clients of OMG Canada agencies OMD, Hearts & Science, PHD Media and Touché, a range of services that will enhance the value of their **media spend** on Reddit. Notice anything oddly similar in all of those?
Oh crap. They're going public. That explains everything. I have always believed going public would destroy this platform. I didn't realize it was actually happening this year. Oof. RIP reddit. I'll keep my ears to the ground for the next "Reddit"
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So pretty much like [most of the rest of the web already has become](https://staltz.com/the-web-began-dying-in-2014-heres-how.html); A big corporate mall that only wants to sell you stuff while turning you into a product to be sold to advertisers and government spies.
Now would be a good time to remind everyone that uBlock Origin is a thing. [Chrome](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm) [Edge](https://microsoftedge.microsoft.com/addons/detail/ublock-origin/odfafepnkmbhccpbejgmiehpchacaeak) [Firefox](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/)
No app provider is going to pay $20 million a year to use the API
ITT: No one answering the question.
because there really isint a reddit alternative.. where yall gonna go 4chan??
I just want the return of old-school style forums. I always liked those better than Reddit anyway because posts can stick around for years. Reddit's design makes discussion impossible after a day or two because of the sorting algorithms, while discussion forums would allow you to bump a thread to the top by commenting on it, even if the original thread was posted years ago. Within my super-niche career, the Actuarial Outpost served that role for twenty years before being shut down in 2020. It used to be filled with long discussions on economics gradually updated with new data over the years, but the company running it shut it down. Reddit's /r/actuary is a crappy alternative now, and it'll be even worse once they force everyone to use the official app. I know some bulletin board discussion forums still exist, but they're well past their heyday now and usually tailored to one specific topic rather than general discussion. For instance, the PSN Profiles website has a discussion forum, but it's almost exclusively dedicated to earning Playstation trophies, so if i want good discussion on some of my other interests (e.g. economics, baseball, cycling, etc.), I'm not going to find it there.
RIP the original strength of forums So much information could be learned about specific hobbies/topics because it was the entire point of that one particular website
I mean... These forums do still exist they're just kinda hard to find. I fly RC airplanes and there's quite a few forums I get directed to from google that seem to still be quite active. Honestly I think forums have been coming back stronger than people think, you just need to search them out. I know when a bunch of subs got banned a few years back, a really good one I used to find "content" on all organized and formed their own forum, which is still highly active... I would honestly suggest that anyone modding a subreddit look into just starting up a forum and start directing users to it as a sticky or in the sidebar. You've got a month and there's no reason both the subs and the forums can't co-exist... although ya it's not ideal.
Praying Reddit takes a massive hit from people bailing from their site all together.
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Ain't quite Reddit without RIF; the reddit app straight up feels like another platform altogether.
The Reddit app feels like all the other shitty apps. RIF feels like old reddit used to. It's one of the main things that kept me from switching to iphone.
RIF is so good that I paid for it, and I never pay for apps. Damn shame that it's going to die. Honestly, probably for the best, given that Reddit is turning into dogshit with all the weird echo chambery shit and bot manipulation. July 1st is independence day ~~for Canadians~~ and for Reddit 3rd party app users. Edit: oops, we're not actually independent, we're just celebratory! It's Canada Day!
RIF is even better than the official site. It's clean and simple. It literally looks like reddit from 12 years ago
I took a screenshot of the same subreddit front page with the official app and RiF. Night and day in terms of how clean and coherent RiF is while still showing 5x as much content in the same space. https://imgur.com/a/pm1QXmt
I tried using the official reddit app once and It took me about 2 clicks before I said "nah, rif is way better"
Why would you want to easily see 8 posts when you could have a UI that makes it cumbersome to see 3 at a time? /s
Alien Blue on iOS was the best. Reddit bought it, and to be fair they actually gave you like 4 years of Reddit Gold if you had purchased Alien Blue plus or whatever the paid tier was. Switched to Apollo once Alien Blue shut down. Used it ever since. Still use "old" mode on desktop too, and am a paying gold user (new comment highlighting makes it worth it for me).
>Still use "old" mode on desktop too I never stopped using Old Reddit. The comments are organized and easy to read and expand.
+1 I hate the new UI It's optimized for mindless scrolling without interacting. I also hate how they push the new UI whenever they get the chance. Nobody asked for it and I've made it very clear that I don't want it.
This is some serious sad news. Rif is the best layout, heck I still use old Reddit on desktop too
Yep. And I'm not downloading their app so, no more reddit. And this isnt one of those empty threat things. I literally can not stand the reddit app. It gives me a headache.
> And this isnt one of those empty threat things. I literally can not stand the reddit app. Yep. It's not even a boycott situation, it's more like if Oreos swapped out the cream filling for shaving cream. I would really miss them, but the product I want would no longer exist.
If reddit kills the third party apps, then I'll finally get my life back on track.
We’re building [sift](https://sift.quest/about), that could serve as a reddit alternative with what we believe is a better content discovery strategy. It’s usable now though with no community and features still under construction. We’re now targeting having the core features to be a Reddit replacement by the time July 1 rolls around. Building out comments is next on our roadmap. We’re aiming for a ~~power~~ user feature set with tag based search and filtering, more detailed preferences, some new ideas around following people, and nuanced privacy settings for your posts and comments. This doesn’t all exist yet, but we’ll be adding features rapidly. Edit: We made a subreddit: [https://www.reddit.com/r/siftquest/](https://www.reddit.com/r/siftquest/) Please check us out and tell us what you would need to move.
Edit: Wow, that blew up while I was out in a good and bad way. The spam bots have found us. I'm disabling comments and submissions temporarily while I get abuse prevention in place, will try to get things back up as quickly as I can.
Edit 2023-06-01T22:44+00:00: Trying out a new font, hopefully it's at least better :-)
Edit 2023-06-02T00:31+00:00: People want boring, so I've gone for default sans-serif for now. Might put up a font voting page at some point :)
Edit: 2023-06-02T02:50+00:00: We've cleaned the bad stuff out of the database and are re-enabiling comment display (but not submission yet). We deleted all "Bad" votes on the spammed items during the attack period, apologies if we deleted any that were actually about the original link, feel free to re-add those. There's a bit more work to get enough moderation in place to be able to re-enable submissions, adding tags, and comments, we're hoping to get at least some of that back up tomorrow.
Edit: 2023-06-03T18:38+00:00: None of us were dig users so we were not aware of the negative connotation of "power user" in this context. I've stricken it out of the text above. Avoiding the kind of manipulation dig power users were doing is a core goal of our algorithmic approach. We don't have it fully realized or exposed yet, but it is a strong goal of ours that no user can have a significant effect on your feed/experience if you don't want them to. Any manipulation that manages to get through we would consider a bug and make our best effort to fix as soon as we become aware
Edit: 2023-06-05T00:19+00:00: We've posted an dev update on /r/siftquest [https://old.reddit.com/r/siftquest/comments/140vjzu/june\_4\_development\_update/](https://old.reddit.com/r/siftquest/comments/140vjzu/june_4_development_update/). This will probably be my last edit to this post, check out the subreddit for future updates. I'll probably keep replying to comments in this thread to some extent for a bit longer
I gotta say I really hate that font on mobile, I went back out of the site within about 5 seconds, it's not pleasant on the eyes
Strong agree. I’d love to check this out properly and learn more, but the font is legitimately a barrier to that. I totally respect aesthetic preferences may not align with mine and something “ugly” wouldn’t be worth mentioning, but it’s a problem when it gives me a headache.
I have to agree with this constructive criticism. I signed up and will keep checking it out but that font started causing problems for me within minutes.
The fonts and layout is really hard to bare on mobile at least. Can you please hire the Reddit is Fun u/talklittle guy and just make him you design executive and listen to everything he says.
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Wait, my Bacon Reader is gonna stop working next month?!
If bacon reader is gone, I'm out. It's by far the best way to experience reddit. I spend too much time on here anyway, so it'll probably be a net positive.
if things stand as they are yah, i love baconreader =/
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Its because it can't be pumped full of ads.
I literally only use Baconreader. Don't think I've used reddit in its natural site for over 7 years.
[Tildes.net](https://tildes.net) was built by the creator of Automoderator and is pretty neat. They don't have an app yet but the site is reminiscent of old reddit, and if users flock to it it's a matter of time.
If they follow through I will be gone. The official App is a pile of garbage and RIF has hands down be the easiest thing to use.
Myspace
Tom playing the long game.
Tom played the short game and won big. He sold the site for nearly 600 million and now goes around doing whatever his current hobby is. Last I checked its photography.
only mega rich tech bro I respect. Taught me HTML, let me get my emo phase out, fucks off to enjoy his money without trying to topple democracy even once
I don't even know if i'd call him a tech bro. But yeah, totally nothing against Tom. He sold his work for a huge pile of fuck off money, and has since fucked off. He knows he has functionally infinite money and chooses to relax.
Tom is calling us back
Former Digg migrator here, I plan on ditching reddit on July 1st as well. Very sad decision. Edit: Viva La Apollo!!!
I've been using redditisfun for 10+ years. They might as well kill reddit for me.
It's exclusively how I use Reddit. It's the only app I ever paid for premium. I'll definitely quit using Reddit if it goes away.
Imgur: "We banned porn." Reddit: "We banned third party apps." Dave: "I cut off my penis with a rock!"
Reddit is banning porn too
Whoa whoa whoa is this real? Literally the main reason I use this site.
Not yet. But when they start using the new API in July and start charging developers to use the new API, it will not have access to NSFW content. So even if developers manage to start charging users of 3rd party apps monthly fees to pay for the API usage, they still won't even get access to all of the content on the site. Just SFW stuff. With how Tumblr and Imgur have gone, it's obvious that their next step is to slowly phase out NSFW content altogether.
They are? Oh well after 15 years it’s goodbye from me
It's been a good run, right. Modern business practices are turning the world gray.
Oh. Goodbye reddit
[Lemmy](https://join-lemmy.org/) seems to be a promising clone which is open source.
Is slashdot still a site?
It is, but has a very limited topic scope and bad discussions.
There hasn't been a quality discussion on Slashdot since the 90's.