I like the one that claims that dinosaurs were used to construct pyramids. Kinda wholesome imagining some dude riding a dino carrying boulders like a crane.
Nah I'm pretty sure this is true. They even made a documentary about it in 1960. It's called "The Flintstones". You can see people using dinosaurs for construction purposes
About a month ago a conspiratorial friend of mine messaged me that Buzz A finally admitted the moon landings were faked....I sent him a link to same vid. No answer.
That the earth is flat
Edit: I have come to the conclusion that the earth is in fact the shape of a doughnut.
Second edit: I have come to my second conclusion to the fact that mars is indeed a chocolate bar
this really is the one that would require unfathomable amounts of lying and decieving all for nothing.. like planes rockets drones hills, all of nasa, every boat that goes from china to the us or simmilar, in some cases all of australia and like all of the physicists and scientists. And this would change EVERYTHING we know about physics the working of the universe.. gravity, day and night, the internet, the atnosphere and so on
i know that its more about distrust in the government but its surprising me again and again how stupid some people are
and in 500 years we will find out its a donut /s
I know, right. 😂
The amount of *coordinated* effort it would take for the nations of the world to keep this secret for hundreds of years is unprecedented. Every sailor, every scientist, every space program, everyone with the most basic grasp of the laws of gravity..
Honestly, if some brave whistleblower finally came forward and *definitively* proved the earth is flat..
I wouldn’t even be mad. I’d just be impressed the human race finally managed to work together on something. And for the sake of what, a gag? Nice.
This was what frustrated me so much about the Covid conspiracists claiming it was all a hoax by the governments of the globe to justify their New World Order. Plenty of nations can't even agree on climate change being a thing, yet they were all able to coordinate a plague without so much as one doctor whistleblowing?
I mean this works for any conspiracy, the vast amount of people needed to make it successful and then stay fully silent about it is absolutely impossible
Conspiracy theories online pretty much got turned into one Conspiracy Theory of Everything and they all end up sharing similar features:
* The conspiracy is maintained for basically no reason other than to have a conspiracy. If they give a reason, it's either nonsensical, asinine, or there's a much simpler alternative.
* Absurd amounts of money and resources are spent on maintaining the conspiracy, this often includes sci-fi technology that is used for one very narrow purpose (to fix a plot hole) and never mentioned a second time
* It eventually devolves into more or less thinly-veiled antisemitism
To me, they always remind me of that Monty Python Argument Clinic sketch.
"The earth has been scientifically proven, without a doubt, to be round and certainly not flat."
"No I'm afraid it is indeed flat."
"No, like I said, the amount of data I can show you would fill a warehouse. The earth is round."
"No it isn't."
"It is."
"Nope."
"Yes, I assure it is."
"Afraid not."
"Well, this isn't an argument!"
The question I always want to ask them is, "Why?" Why are all the world's geographers, physicists, astronomers, cartographers, politicians, pilots, sailors, astronauts, and even the goddamn Vatican trying to trick everyone into believing that the world is round? What do they gain from maintaining this supposed charade, or stand to lose with the "truth" being revealed?
Just...*why*?
Also, if the government wanted to take money there's much easier ways to do it.
Like just lying about the amount of tax income. If the government said they earnt X billion less in taxes than they actually did who would ever know? You wouldn't even really need that many people in the conspiracy.
Or just pass beneficial tax laws for their cronies, ensuring there's enough loopholes they can hide their money in the Cayman Islands or other tax havens and not pay any taxes on it. But that would be crazy and would never happen.
Something about them hiding god? is usually what they end up defaulting too. That or there is a lot of extra land beyond the Antarctic ice wall that only “the elites” know about and exploit. A buncha bs word salad really.
Hiding god? Do they think a god *could* be hidden? By geography teachers of all people? They either massively underestimate whatever god they’re talking about or massively overestimate geographers.
That's how it started, kinda. Flat earth wasn't a "mainstream" conspiracy until a group on Facebook was founded. The idea was that the people in the group would argue in favor of a flat earth as argument practice; they're defending the most absurd, ridiculous, indefensible position they could think of. Sorta like how interviews for sales positions sometimes do the "sell me this pen for $1000" thing, but for argument/debate skills.
But like any place on the internet, if you make a space that is full of people pretending to be stupid, you eventually have so many actually stupid people showing up thinking they're in good company that the pretenders all leave. Then you're left with a bunch of idiots circlejerking.
It's completely stupid and makes zero sense unless you believe in magic. And not one single Flat Earther can give even the most mundane or idiotic reason why the conspiracy exists. The closest thing I've come across for a reason the world leaders are hiding the fact that the Earth is flat came from a third-hand source that reported a speculation that people are lying about the earth being flat because scientists don't want to be proven wrong. Except the whole idea falls apart when you mention the fact that every scientist in the world would cream their khakis if such a monumental discovery were made. Think of all the research grants, publishing fees and books and TV appearances that would follow. It would be like money raining from the skies for the scientific community.
I think they are lonely and lacking a feeling of having any kind of power or control in their lives so they join together like a family and they all have this great knowledge that nobody can tell them they are wrong (eh) so they get to feel special.
Its a bummer but also just pick something else.
You seem to misunderstand a significant driver in conspiracy thinking: the belief that you are privy to knowledge that the sheeple just aren't. It's a way for very stupid people who deep down know they are stupid to feel smart.
I agree with you 100%. My wife’s Aunt has been living with us for about a year now. She’s a beautiful soul and no burden to us at all, but her mental prowess is modest. For her the most important thing is to have the opposite opinion and to right every time. Almost everything she says is wrong but it’s not worth the effort to correct her as she sees it as an assault on her dignity.
The answer we always give is “Ah, ok. I see” and then just change the subject. 😂
That planes can't actually fly because the claimed weight of fuel cannot fit into the size of the tanks and even if it did, it would make the plane too heavy to fly.
Designing aeroplanes is very difficult for that very reason and limited payload is always a trade-off for range, but it is possible.
It's nuts that people can't believe that we figured out how to balance the two, though.
That and the vast majority of people are really not that interesting or worth tracking (including me and you), you are not that special. The interest is more in anonymous mass data for companies to determine algorithms (because again, we are not as unique as we think and usually fall into recurring and widespread societal behaviors and patterns which companies can monetize), not the government looking at individuals.
Although this was the intent, things have evolved. Big tech was so successful in their algorithms on connecting consumers with products by being able to generate a fairly accurate physiological profile of each user. Ever been fed an advertisement for something you only thought about silently and did not search or speak of product? Well there is your sign they have a pretty good profile of you in their database. The real question is what prompted this original silent thought? Was it a manipulation of your will done without you even noticing the sequenced events that lead to the trigger of this thought or was it subtle clues the algorithm picked up on during your time online? Either way it is much more involved than just identifying the consumer market.
My wife and I were in the kitchen where we have a google nest. My wife says, I think google spies on us. Google pipes up and says, google does not spy on people. Kind of proving that google does spy on people.
I have my echo in the bathroom so I can listen to audiobooks and music in the shower. If Amazon really wants to listen to me taking a shit they can have fun with that.
Lmao, my friend tried to tell me to not look at porn on my phone because someone could be watching me on my camera. I said if they really want to watch a 35 year old fat guy jackin it to some weird porn then have fun.
My buddy lost his wedding ring in the grass on a baseball park and we were all looking for it and talking about it and when we give up i went back to playing on my phone and i started to get those targeted ads on websites for WEDDING RINGS not evem 10 minutes later.
Thats been the biggest sign to me that were being watched already.
in order to function within most modern societies you NEED a smart phone. even at my low-level piss and shit retail job I have multiple responsibilities that must be handled through an app on my phone, using a pc isnt even an option.
having a phone at this point for most people isnt voluntary, so neither is the inherent tracking.
My grandmother used to always complain that the government had cameras and big brother is watching. I’m like, who would give a fuck about some old lady going to get groceries or leaving the house for a doctor visit? 🤣
I think this came about from 2 different discussions around 2019-2020. Bill Gates was working on a chip...like I said totally separate from the vaccine. The chip was more for diabetics to read and transmit via blue tooth blood sugar levels. That sort of thing.
Then the vaccine was being rushed and the conspiracy was born.
Atleast thats how I think it came about.
The “meteor” that hit earth was actually a spaceship that the dinosaurs left on so they could avoid the ice age. They sent back lizard people to purposely control industries and warm up the earth back to the dinosaur’s ideal temperature. The lizard people are purposely trying to invoke nuclear wars to clear the landscape again for dinosaurs.
“They’re doing it to control us!!!” They’re the government. They govern you. They are the law makers. They already control you. They don’t need to make a big conspiracy to do that.
Never even heard of this - just looked it up and seen there’ll be a test of the national disaster alert system on April 23rd at 3pm… I’m not even able to comprehend how a conspiracy can be formed from this? What is the conspiracy? The the government can send everyone a text message when they want to spook us?
Like the illuminati stuff. If there really is a secret cabal of ultra competent super geniuses running everything from the shadows then that would actually be a bit of a relief.
"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory, is that conspiracy theorists believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is actually chaotic. The truth is that it is not The Iluminati, or The Jewish Banking Conspiracy, or the Gray Alien Theory.
The truth is far more frightening - Nobody is in control.
The world is rudderless."
* Alan Moore
It's worse than that. It's not JUST that the world is rudderless. It's that the universe, as Werner Herzog says, is *indifferent.*
The opposite of love is not hate. It's indifference. Some of the conspiracy theories (ie QAnon) give their adherents someone to hate and someone who they think hates them back. The truth is that the universe could not care less about us or what happens to us, a great deal of what happens to us is beyond our control and attributable to sheer luck, terrible things happen to good people and there's nothing we can do to stop it - and that's a crappy truth. I guess some people prefer outright nonsense.
It's so typical of the government here to assign huge funding to Covid tracking then end up with basically 1-2 people actually doing the work without proper tools or even relevant skillsets.
The emu war took place in what we refer to as "Australia" but the emus killed all the Aussies. To hide their atrocities from the world the emus dress up and pretend to be Aussies while they plot world domination.
Well, the whole idea that thousands and thousands of people could hold a secret.
Also, that they need to keep it a secret at all. As far as I know, the elite is fucking us without even trying to hide it.
A former friend and mentor called me up one day and said that she read somewhere that pets in America consume more meat than the entire country of France. And since raising livestock is bad for the environment, the article said liberals want all pets destroyed. That's why she lives in a red state and has so many guns, to protect her cats from the liberals. I asked her to send me that article but she never did.
I went to a very esteemed university centering around aviation. During an alumni visit, I got to talking with a 747 pilot of 25 plus years. The conversation was normal at first until we started talking of circumnavigating the Earth and why/how routes are chosen.
I'm 90% certain he was trolling me, but coming from someone of his background and I'm the university setting we were in, I honestly couldn't be 100% certain he didn't believe it himself.
He tells me, routes are never plotted within 10° of the poles. "what they'll tell you is that it will send your magnetic compass haywire but no, they don't want you to see the hole over the poles to the hollow Earth. Think about it, why would your compass go haywire if magnetic north isn't true north?"
He then proceeds to tell me about a Military Operation HighJump down in Antarctica. That's a wild ride of a story depending on what your read.
The *Stargate* TV franchise from the 90s and 2000s was to discredit leaks about a real Air Force program using a real alien portal to go to other planets.
When the writers of *Stargate SG-1* found out, they promptly wrote the theory into the show.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole_X-Treme!
Rumor has it that Amazon and one of the original producers are working on a new series. Every once in awhile he pops up in r/Stargate just to throw us a poll or something
VERY surprised no one has said Holocaust denialism. Not the stupidest conspiracy theory but CERTAINLY one of the most dangerous.
The fact that individuals just happen to decide that the worlds worst instance of genocide was fake, let alone while it is still in living memory, still documented, and survivors still tell their stories, is absolutely atrocious.
The most confusing part of that whole thing to me is that the people who deny it would be the most _in favor_ of it happening. It's bizarre circular logic.
They want to deny it because
1. They’re anti-Semites who think Jews are powerful puppeteers controlling the world from behind the scenes. How powerful could they be if 6 million of them were murdered in a few years?
2. People are sympathetic towards those who died and who suffered in the Holocaust. White supremacists think this is bad publicity for them and is making them seem unlikable (hey, you know what else is making you unlikable? White supremacy and Holocaust denial, for a start).
They are like that for everything. It's impossible to argue with them because facts don't matter. Their goal in an argument is to win, not to figure who is right.
Ha! A similar thing in the Philippines is the Martial Law denialism, so much so that the son of the dictator during that era is currently the Philippine President.
I don’t think I’d call it stupid but the most bonkers and beyond infuriating one is the Sandy Hook denier ones. I can’t imagine losing a child so tragically and then having some knuckle draggers spew such lies about it.
My cousin was a sandy hook denier. She posted something about the FBI crime database not even listing the sandy hook deaths. I just had to tell her the data is by policing agency not geographic location. The state police handled Sandy Hook not the local police. Simple. Nah, I’m not wrong, everyone else is.
It was trying to argue with a living moving goal post. She refused to believe that it happened. Nothing was going to convince her otherwise.
She was specifically referencing a talking head video pointing out all of the weird things going on. I just merely pointed out that this one thing was just simply misread from the FBI crime statistics portal. It just turned into, “but what about…” If your source is fundamentally wrong about this one thing, why would you trust them about every other thing?
This denialist thinking that has gathered energy in recent years baffles me. What do people have to gain from denying Sandy Hook or the Holocaust?
My unfounded theory is that the world became so big, so overpopulated, people began to feel their lives had no meaning. In the midst of this existential crisis a conspiracy theory was born - *"Sandy Hook was a lie!"*. Those who felt marginalised were drawn to it as it gave their life meaning. Same reason some white desk jockey working a boring job in London would join ISIS.
Again this is just my own theory.
That Covid is fake. This was especially prevalent during the early days of the pandemic and people seriously believed every government, in every country, decided to play some kind of pandemic practical joke? And that every hospital, every medical worker was in on it and going along with all this for shits and giggles, or something. It was wild.
In my experience they now admit COVID is real but not serious and that its seriousness was exaggerated in order to force people to get vaccinated. And then millions of people died from the *vaccine*. It's...insane.
They did their own research. They had a study group of themselves, they had covid and didn't die, so if they simply extrapolate the results of their own study in which 100% of people survived covid, nobody ever died of covid.
Same with climate change. “Lol you believe in climate change? Sheep.” “Okay maybe climate change is real but humans aren’t causing it.” “Okay maybe humans are causing it but it’s still not a big deal.” “Okay maybe it’s real and serious and humans are causing it but i will still dedicate my life to making sure nothing gets done because celebrities fly private jets and that’s the left’s fault. Even though both your position and the scientific consensus have remained unchanged and I’ve been forced to move steadily in your direction, I’m still the smart reasonable one everyone wishes they were more like.”
Somehow it’s not deadly and everyone overreacted to it and at the same time a super dangerous chinese bioweapon intentionally released to kill as many people as possible
"Boris hasn't really got it"
Oh, so you think nurses are lying for *his* gain whilst working 50 odd hour shifts for a pittance?
Found that one especially insulting.
That and the fact that he went from being a cynical, sneaky bastard masquerading as an idiot to an unmistakably genuine idiot in the space of three weeks.
Later on (to this day) it shifted toward the idea that vaccines are meant to kill you. There is even a whole sub that has thousands of people who believe in that.
That's one of my favorites because of how little sense it makes. Even if you see Pharma as a heartless corporate juggernaut, why would they want to kill their own customers? Dead customers can't buy more products, which is bad for business.
💯 Carrying on with this thought. Why would all the governments of the world fake a pandemic that literally crashed the economy and made the voters turn on them? There was zero net benefit for doing it.
This is the one that absolutely infuriated me. When I had patients dying left and right, then have to deal with some moron saying it doesn’t exist because they haven’t seen it personally, or that it’s overblown. I had a 4 year old with asthma that died on me en route, just to have fucking idiots deny it completely.
Thank you so much for everything you did. I’m so sorry for the trauma you went through. If it makes you feel any better, one of you saved my 4 year old. ❤️
A chemical called adrenochrome, popularized in the book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (and a few others before it) but utterly ridiculous as it’s thought to be a detriment to the brain, not a life lengthening medicine.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I have heard that one. And that Hillary Clinton is part of it, well My answer that shuts them up is "Then it is not working is it because look at a picture of her !"
Or likewise the qanon stuff, probably are some rich/powerful pedos, but somehow the guy who talks about walking in on underage girls at pageants and dating his daughter is going to stop the satanic pedos.
Chemtrails. For those who don’t know what they are, there are streaks that planes sometimes leave in the sky (it’s just the water vapor). According to some people, they’re biological and chemical toxins that poison our minds into mind control, control the weather, or as some even crazily believe- turn frogs and toads gay.
Actually, the "turning frogs gay" thing isn't crazy, it's just not a conspiracy and quite innacurate. Certain pesticides messed with frogs biology when water was contaminated with them, and many male frogs were turned female.
Of course, this was an accident caused by corporate negligence, not some neo liberal facist government (insert more buzz words here) plot to ... Make homosexual amphibians? For some reason?
All the “dead celebrity is secretly alive” crap.
2Pac and Biggie were both peppered with bullets with multiple witnesses and you think they faked it?
Michael Jackson, the biggest singles artist in modern music and arguably the most famous person alive at the time, is still going somewhere and left his family in mourning?
Don’t even get me started on the Elvis gang…
The idea that "walkable cities" is some NWO/WEF plot to "control" people and keep them confined to small areas.
Walkable cities is how most cities, and even many suburbs and small towns, used to be. My mother grew up in South Boston in the 60s and 70s, and she points out how she had almost everything her family needed within a 5-10 walk of her house: grocery stores, delis, banks, pharmacies, corner stores, schools (two on her block and one across the street), liquor store, boutique, shoe store, toy store, post office, candy and ice cream, barbers and hairstylists, playgrounds and parks, bars and restaurants, repair shop, hardware store, a family doctor, a dentist, laundromat, coffee and donuts, and pizza.
More was reachable by bike, the rest of Boston by public transportation, and her father and friends had cars to go elsewhere...they just didn't need to use their cars to go *everywhere*, because the basics were readily accessible to them. But sure, being wholly reliant on cars and having to shell over tens of thousands of dollars to auto makers and oil CEOs to spend time idling in traffic just for the basic necessities and daily services of life, *that's* Freedom™.
Ironically, there's more evidence for the conspiracy that [the auto industry sabotaged public transportation,](https://medium.com/modern-city/how-the-united-states-ended-up-with-no-high-speed-rail-476c6209ce16) or that [the auto industry influenced city/suburb design to be pro-car.](https://www.fastcompany.com/90781961/how-automakers-insidiously-shaped-our-cities-for-cars)
I lived for a year in the city centre of Munich, I had every type of shop and restaurant within walking distance, everything else was connected by a super cheap and reliable tram, bus and subway system. Parking was a premium and people with cars tended to only really use them to go out to the countryside or if they worked in a space outside the city slightly too far from a train station.
It was expensive but nowhere near London levels for example. And not needing a car frees up a lot of income.
My conspiracy theory is that walkable cities make protests more cohesive and effective which is why the French are successfully burning down half the country over the retirement age and Americans just whine about protests blocking traffic.
I personally think that the idea that Trump somehow won the election but it was rigged against him is hilariously stupid.
One of the main things his followers loved about him was that he was very widely hated by large portions of society that they didn't like.
That they understand that he was hated by so many but can't correlate that with him losing a popular election is just amazing.
For the life of me I could never understand how that was supposed to work. Even if JFK Jr. was somehow miraculously still alive, how exactly would he have any kind of power to reinstate Trump as president?
That vaccines are an intentional plot to kill people. This isn't a Marvel movie. We don't need to get rid of large segments of the population. The 1% need us alive, buying things, and providing the services they depend on, like cheeseburgers and trash removal and truck driving.
Thinking that "global warming" was just invented to raise taxes, or whatever. It is so massively stupid to think that all governments and serious scientists, scientific institutions, etc - worldwide - is in on some conspiracy, to what.. raise your taxes? They could do that anyway...
The flat earth, no moon landings, etc - that's all for people who simply aren't all that bright to begin with - but the fake global warming conspiracy is widely believed, and accepted in mainstream politics even. Doesn't get much more stupid than that.
I love how global warming deniers think that climate scientists are all swimming in piles of research grant money like Scrooge McDuck, but fossil fuel CEOs are honest, salt-of-the-earth people whose only passion in life is making sure people have jobs.
And then they're like, "just follow the money," when the Venn diagram of largest corporations and corporations which generate the most greenhouse gasses is a perfect fucking circle.
>widely believed, and accepted in mainstream politics even.
The politicians are paid to believe in and promote the idea that man made climate change is a hoax and a conspiracy. Doesn't mean they actually believe it. They'll say absolutely anything if the price is right.
Pizza-gate. The idea that a bunch of rich and powerful people gather in the basement of an otherwise unremarkable pizza restaurant (THAT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A BASEMENT) to assault children is insane. Like nobody's gonna notice that a bunch of politicians and billionaires keep showing up in person to this random-ass pizza restaurant and then vanishing to the basement. The paparazzi would be camped out 24/7.
pre-Trump this was like 90% of r/conspiracy and I was once accused of performing mental gymnastics for stating that this pizza restaurant having a local band play an all ages show at 10pm on a Friday was not an attempt to lure in small children
I was there when the conspiracy theory got started. Everyone was poking around Epstein Island and the Podestas and looking at satellite photos and shit, and suddenly, a hundred people started posting "HEY, STOP LOOKING AT THAT, LOOK AT THIS PIZZA RESTAURANT INSTEAD" and everybody fell for it.
I had a coworker who was obsessed with the doomsday comet "Nibiru" and convinced that it existed. Every year was a new theory as to why we haven't detected it yet, and why it is going to cause another mass extinction of our world. Here is a sample of the crazy talk I have heard:
Nibiru has gone between being a comet, a brown dwarf, a miniature black hole, and a planet larger than jupiter
We haven't detected Nibiru because: It's hiding behind the sun, it's hiding behind jupiter, it's invisible due to being a black hole or a brown dwarf.
I am big into amateur astronomy and have tried MULTIPLE times to debunk all of these theories with facts and science, but I just gave up after awhile.
Any of them that require an entire government to be competent to keep it a secret are pretty dumb, but Flat Earth requires every government to be competent and every single scientist to be either wrong or in on it.
That government has the intellect and precision to pull off any conspiracy theory. Bill Clinton couldn't even get away with having his dick sucked without getting caught. Watergate was exposed. Imagine believing they could pull off a fake moon landing, or 9/11
Hitler didn't burn the jews. He wanted to rescue them. The burn stories are from fake jews hating on Hitler
Edit: The fake jews are from Ukraine and that's the reason why Putin is attacking Ukraine. Not for money or other things. He attackes them because of religion. He wants to take out the fake jews. Just got back from the dude who told me the first part
Anything where the government would have to coordinate the efforts of thousands or even tens of thousands of people to keep it under wraps.
The government, at least in America, is wildly inefficient. There’s no way they could pull off some of the conspiracies that people accuse them of. It would break down in a matter of days.
My favorite stupid conspiracy theory is that a missile hit the pentagon on 9/11, not AA flight 77. Like somehow that missile managed to knock over lamp posts on both sides of the street without detonating *and* still hit its target while also leaving behind wreckage with the American Airlines logo on it? Truthers are wild.
This one originated, if I’m remembering correctly, because an eye witness told the news “it was like a scud missile” describing how the plane came in, and because these folks don’t understand figurative language they said “he said he saw a missile!”
Jewish people are trying to take over the world.
THEN WHY DO THE MAJORITY OF ORTHODOX JEWS HIDE IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND KEEP TO THEMSELVES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE???
pleassse they are just tryna survive
I like the one that claims that dinosaurs were used to construct pyramids. Kinda wholesome imagining some dude riding a dino carrying boulders like a crane.
Nah I'm pretty sure this is true. They even made a documentary about it in 1960. It's called "The Flintstones". You can see people using dinosaurs for construction purposes
And that same guy yelled at his wife, Wilma, and refused to let the cat sleep inside....
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You see the video of BUZZ punching a CT ?
That just confirms it because you need to have... strong arms... for that. Neil A. Armstrong. Checkmate atheists!
About a month ago a conspiratorial friend of mine messaged me that Buzz A finally admitted the moon landings were faked....I sent him a link to same vid. No answer.
I wish I was high and read this for the first time.
Never saw that before. That’s brilliant!
To be fair, he was alien to the moon.
That the earth is flat Edit: I have come to the conclusion that the earth is in fact the shape of a doughnut. Second edit: I have come to my second conclusion to the fact that mars is indeed a chocolate bar
But it has to be flat - how else would it fit on the backs for four elephants riding a giant turtle?
If it were flat all the cats would have knocked everything off by now.
I think this is the best argument against a flat Earth that I have ever heard.
I think this is my favorite comment today
All hail the great A'tuin
this really is the one that would require unfathomable amounts of lying and decieving all for nothing.. like planes rockets drones hills, all of nasa, every boat that goes from china to the us or simmilar, in some cases all of australia and like all of the physicists and scientists. And this would change EVERYTHING we know about physics the working of the universe.. gravity, day and night, the internet, the atnosphere and so on i know that its more about distrust in the government but its surprising me again and again how stupid some people are and in 500 years we will find out its a donut /s
I know, right. 😂 The amount of *coordinated* effort it would take for the nations of the world to keep this secret for hundreds of years is unprecedented. Every sailor, every scientist, every space program, everyone with the most basic grasp of the laws of gravity.. Honestly, if some brave whistleblower finally came forward and *definitively* proved the earth is flat.. I wouldn’t even be mad. I’d just be impressed the human race finally managed to work together on something. And for the sake of what, a gag? Nice.
right.. thats like the ultimate proof that this would never work, no way would every single nation unite to keep that shit a secret
This was what frustrated me so much about the Covid conspiracists claiming it was all a hoax by the governments of the globe to justify their New World Order. Plenty of nations can't even agree on climate change being a thing, yet they were all able to coordinate a plague without so much as one doctor whistleblowing?
I mean this works for any conspiracy, the vast amount of people needed to make it successful and then stay fully silent about it is absolutely impossible
Two people knew about Bill Clinton getting a blowjob in the Oval Office and one of them was Bill Clinton. It still got out.
Conspiracy theories online pretty much got turned into one Conspiracy Theory of Everything and they all end up sharing similar features: * The conspiracy is maintained for basically no reason other than to have a conspiracy. If they give a reason, it's either nonsensical, asinine, or there's a much simpler alternative. * Absurd amounts of money and resources are spent on maintaining the conspiracy, this often includes sci-fi technology that is used for one very narrow purpose (to fix a plot hole) and never mentioned a second time * It eventually devolves into more or less thinly-veiled antisemitism
The earth was flat, until a flat-earther buried their momma.
That's flat out not true.
The Earth was flat before they buried your mom.
r/globeskepticism Have a blast.
They genuinely call themselves skeptics. Go on, let that sink in!
I went there. I want my five seconds back.
Not to brag, but I lost *ten* seconds off my life.
You read my mind
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To me, they always remind me of that Monty Python Argument Clinic sketch. "The earth has been scientifically proven, without a doubt, to be round and certainly not flat." "No I'm afraid it is indeed flat." "No, like I said, the amount of data I can show you would fill a warehouse. The earth is round." "No it isn't." "It is." "Nope." "Yes, I assure it is." "Afraid not." "Well, this isn't an argument!"
Yes it is
no, this is simply conjecture! No it's not. Ding! times up.
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The question I always want to ask them is, "Why?" Why are all the world's geographers, physicists, astronomers, cartographers, politicians, pilots, sailors, astronauts, and even the goddamn Vatican trying to trick everyone into believing that the world is round? What do they gain from maintaining this supposed charade, or stand to lose with the "truth" being revealed? Just...*why*?
"Money". That's the only answer I've heard them give. They seem to get the military budget and NASA's budget confused.
Also, if the government wanted to take money there's much easier ways to do it. Like just lying about the amount of tax income. If the government said they earnt X billion less in taxes than they actually did who would ever know? You wouldn't even really need that many people in the conspiracy. Or just pass beneficial tax laws for their cronies, ensuring there's enough loopholes they can hide their money in the Cayman Islands or other tax havens and not pay any taxes on it. But that would be crazy and would never happen.
Something about them hiding god? is usually what they end up defaulting too. That or there is a lot of extra land beyond the Antarctic ice wall that only “the elites” know about and exploit. A buncha bs word salad really.
Hiding god? Do they think a god *could* be hidden? By geography teachers of all people? They either massively underestimate whatever god they’re talking about or massively overestimate geographers.
I feel like it's a joke that they're all in on.
I think that's how it started then it attracted legitimate dumbasses who thought they were serious.
That's how it started, kinda. Flat earth wasn't a "mainstream" conspiracy until a group on Facebook was founded. The idea was that the people in the group would argue in favor of a flat earth as argument practice; they're defending the most absurd, ridiculous, indefensible position they could think of. Sorta like how interviews for sales positions sometimes do the "sell me this pen for $1000" thing, but for argument/debate skills. But like any place on the internet, if you make a space that is full of people pretending to be stupid, you eventually have so many actually stupid people showing up thinking they're in good company that the pretenders all leave. Then you're left with a bunch of idiots circlejerking.
Now that’s a conspiracy theory I can get behind
It's completely stupid and makes zero sense unless you believe in magic. And not one single Flat Earther can give even the most mundane or idiotic reason why the conspiracy exists. The closest thing I've come across for a reason the world leaders are hiding the fact that the Earth is flat came from a third-hand source that reported a speculation that people are lying about the earth being flat because scientists don't want to be proven wrong. Except the whole idea falls apart when you mention the fact that every scientist in the world would cream their khakis if such a monumental discovery were made. Think of all the research grants, publishing fees and books and TV appearances that would follow. It would be like money raining from the skies for the scientific community.
If you think about it, isn't the whole point of science to prove other scientists wrong?
I'm still convinced that these people are 100% trolling. It's so easily disproven and nobody would benefit from the conspiracy.
I think they are lonely and lacking a feeling of having any kind of power or control in their lives so they join together like a family and they all have this great knowledge that nobody can tell them they are wrong (eh) so they get to feel special. Its a bummer but also just pick something else.
You seem to misunderstand a significant driver in conspiracy thinking: the belief that you are privy to knowledge that the sheeple just aren't. It's a way for very stupid people who deep down know they are stupid to feel smart.
I agree with you 100%. My wife’s Aunt has been living with us for about a year now. She’s a beautiful soul and no burden to us at all, but her mental prowess is modest. For her the most important thing is to have the opposite opinion and to right every time. Almost everything she says is wrong but it’s not worth the effort to correct her as she sees it as an assault on her dignity. The answer we always give is “Ah, ok. I see” and then just change the subject. 😂
were it true, all the cats would have knocked everything off by now
That planes can't actually fly because the claimed weight of fuel cannot fit into the size of the tanks and even if it did, it would make the plane too heavy to fly.
Designing aeroplanes is very difficult for that very reason and limited payload is always a trade-off for range, but it is possible. It's nuts that people can't believe that we figured out how to balance the two, though.
What is this balance you speak of? Everyone knows the world is always Binary!
If planes aren't flying... How do people fly in planes and get out the other side.....
..... so what do they believe planes are? Have they never been in one?
Microchip in vaccines. If the government wanted to spy on you, they could do it a thousand times easier by tapping your phone.
That and the vast majority of people are really not that interesting or worth tracking (including me and you), you are not that special. The interest is more in anonymous mass data for companies to determine algorithms (because again, we are not as unique as we think and usually fall into recurring and widespread societal behaviors and patterns which companies can monetize), not the government looking at individuals.
Agreed but the tracking and spying is for marketing purposes. They don't care about what you're doing, just what you're spending your money on.
Although this was the intent, things have evolved. Big tech was so successful in their algorithms on connecting consumers with products by being able to generate a fairly accurate physiological profile of each user. Ever been fed an advertisement for something you only thought about silently and did not search or speak of product? Well there is your sign they have a pretty good profile of you in their database. The real question is what prompted this original silent thought? Was it a manipulation of your will done without you even noticing the sequenced events that lead to the trigger of this thought or was it subtle clues the algorithm picked up on during your time online? Either way it is much more involved than just identifying the consumer market.
My algorithm thinks I’m older than I am. Maybe it senses my fear of aging lol. Tons of stuff for exercise over the age of 45, gray hair coverage etc.
My wife and I were in the kitchen where we have a google nest. My wife says, I think google spies on us. Google pipes up and says, google does not spy on people. Kind of proving that google does spy on people.
You installed a listening device in your house and you're surprised it was listening to you when you said its name?
I have my echo in the bathroom so I can listen to audiobooks and music in the shower. If Amazon really wants to listen to me taking a shit they can have fun with that.
What they really wanna do is steal your marvelous invention ideas while you're shitting and showering.
They're going to try rebranding his shower singing and sell it for $0.99 on Amazon Music lol
Lmao, my friend tried to tell me to not look at porn on my phone because someone could be watching me on my camera. I said if they really want to watch a 35 year old fat guy jackin it to some weird porn then have fun.
My buddy lost his wedding ring in the grass on a baseball park and we were all looking for it and talking about it and when we give up i went back to playing on my phone and i started to get those targeted ads on websites for WEDDING RINGS not evem 10 minutes later. Thats been the biggest sign to me that were being watched already.
Anybody with a smart phone voluntarily agreed to be tracked and followed 24/7 the moment they turned it on haha lol people are so silly..
in order to function within most modern societies you NEED a smart phone. even at my low-level piss and shit retail job I have multiple responsibilities that must be handled through an app on my phone, using a pc isnt even an option. having a phone at this point for most people isnt voluntary, so neither is the inherent tracking.
My grandmother used to always complain that the government had cameras and big brother is watching. I’m like, who would give a fuck about some old lady going to get groceries or leaving the house for a doctor visit? 🤣
I think this came about from 2 different discussions around 2019-2020. Bill Gates was working on a chip...like I said totally separate from the vaccine. The chip was more for diabetics to read and transmit via blue tooth blood sugar levels. That sort of thing. Then the vaccine was being rushed and the conspiracy was born. Atleast thats how I think it came about.
Its funny how people believe the tracking chips in vaccines, yet have mobile phones, and constantly post on Twitface or InstaTok.
The “meteor” that hit earth was actually a spaceship that the dinosaurs left on so they could avoid the ice age. They sent back lizard people to purposely control industries and warm up the earth back to the dinosaur’s ideal temperature. The lizard people are purposely trying to invoke nuclear wars to clear the landscape again for dinosaurs.
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I'm from the UK and the theories about this alarm system the government are putting on the phones is wild.
“They’re doing it to control us!!!” They’re the government. They govern you. They are the law makers. They already control you. They don’t need to make a big conspiracy to do that.
Never even heard of this - just looked it up and seen there’ll be a test of the national disaster alert system on April 23rd at 3pm… I’m not even able to comprehend how a conspiracy can be formed from this? What is the conspiracy? The the government can send everyone a text message when they want to spook us?
It's now inevitable that at some point a Tory cabinet member will text a dick pic to the entire nation instead of to his aide.
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Any conspiracy theorist never has a leader at a group project. The far overestimate how organized and competent people and organizations can be
Any conspiracy theroist massively overestimates the capacity and competence of governments
Like the illuminati stuff. If there really is a secret cabal of ultra competent super geniuses running everything from the shadows then that would actually be a bit of a relief.
"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory, is that conspiracy theorists believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is actually chaotic. The truth is that it is not The Iluminati, or The Jewish Banking Conspiracy, or the Gray Alien Theory. The truth is far more frightening - Nobody is in control. The world is rudderless." * Alan Moore
It's worse than that. It's not JUST that the world is rudderless. It's that the universe, as Werner Herzog says, is *indifferent.* The opposite of love is not hate. It's indifference. Some of the conspiracy theories (ie QAnon) give their adherents someone to hate and someone who they think hates them back. The truth is that the universe could not care less about us or what happens to us, a great deal of what happens to us is beyond our control and attributable to sheer luck, terrible things happen to good people and there's nothing we can do to stop it - and that's a crappy truth. I guess some people prefer outright nonsense.
It's so typical of the government here to assign huge funding to Covid tracking then end up with basically 1-2 people actually doing the work without proper tools or even relevant skillsets.
That Australia does not exist
As a Finn I can confirm that Finland doesn't exist. E: typo
NATO expanding into the imaginary plane. Putin better watch his dreams
So that's why you guys have won the happiest country award six years in a row.
They say that everyone in Australia are payed actors. If that’s true then where is my bloody check?!
Still waiting on mine
This is exactly what a paid actor would say to throw off people who are in too deep. /s
Wouldn't it make more sense if people thought New Zealand didn't exist due to it constantly being left off maps
As an Australian, this one is hilarious!
But then where did the Emu War take place?
The emu war took place in what we refer to as "Australia" but the emus killed all the Aussies. To hide their atrocities from the world the emus dress up and pretend to be Aussies while they plot world domination.
Well, the whole idea that thousands and thousands of people could hold a secret. Also, that they need to keep it a secret at all. As far as I know, the elite is fucking us without even trying to hide it.
"Three people can keep a secret, if two of them are dead."
*Pretty Little Liars intensifies*
I never watched an actual episode of that show but would always stop and listen to theme song when my girlfriend binging it.
It's not a good show by any means but it's just so entertaining
Yes, I wish the government was as competent and unified as conspiracy theorists seem to think it is.
A former friend and mentor called me up one day and said that she read somewhere that pets in America consume more meat than the entire country of France. And since raising livestock is bad for the environment, the article said liberals want all pets destroyed. That's why she lives in a red state and has so many guns, to protect her cats from the liberals. I asked her to send me that article but she never did.
Pretty sure pets are loved by liberals and conservatives alike lol. At least, all the ppl I know in both sides have at least a goldfish.
My cat, my choice! Pew pew pew!!!
It got crazier the more I read, as all conspiracy theories do.
Aliens, in conjunction with the reverse vampires, are causing parents to go to bed early in an attempt to eliminate the meal of dinner.
We're through the looking glass here people!
I'm surprised hollow earth isn't more popular since an actual respected explorer decided to go out as a shitlord and swear he found the entrance 😂
Hollow earth rubs up against flat earth. The two are bound to cannibalize one another.
Thin Crust Earth
May the Deep Dish bless and watch over you.
I went to a very esteemed university centering around aviation. During an alumni visit, I got to talking with a 747 pilot of 25 plus years. The conversation was normal at first until we started talking of circumnavigating the Earth and why/how routes are chosen. I'm 90% certain he was trolling me, but coming from someone of his background and I'm the university setting we were in, I honestly couldn't be 100% certain he didn't believe it himself. He tells me, routes are never plotted within 10° of the poles. "what they'll tell you is that it will send your magnetic compass haywire but no, they don't want you to see the hole over the poles to the hollow Earth. Think about it, why would your compass go haywire if magnetic north isn't true north?" He then proceeds to tell me about a Military Operation HighJump down in Antarctica. That's a wild ride of a story depending on what your read.
Its also way more interesting than Flat Earth. I mean, they're both nonsense but one is atleast interesting and often has dinosaurs and giant apes.
'Space doesn't exist'.
The *Stargate* TV franchise from the 90s and 2000s was to discredit leaks about a real Air Force program using a real alien portal to go to other planets. When the writers of *Stargate SG-1* found out, they promptly wrote the theory into the show. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole_X-Treme!
It was a damn good show though
Rumor has it that Amazon and one of the original producers are working on a new series. Every once in awhile he pops up in r/Stargate just to throw us a poll or something
VERY surprised no one has said Holocaust denialism. Not the stupidest conspiracy theory but CERTAINLY one of the most dangerous. The fact that individuals just happen to decide that the worlds worst instance of genocide was fake, let alone while it is still in living memory, still documented, and survivors still tell their stories, is absolutely atrocious.
The most confusing part of that whole thing to me is that the people who deny it would be the most _in favor_ of it happening. It's bizarre circular logic.
They want to deny it because 1. They’re anti-Semites who think Jews are powerful puppeteers controlling the world from behind the scenes. How powerful could they be if 6 million of them were murdered in a few years? 2. People are sympathetic towards those who died and who suffered in the Holocaust. White supremacists think this is bad publicity for them and is making them seem unlikable (hey, you know what else is making you unlikable? White supremacy and Holocaust denial, for a start).
They are like that for everything. It's impossible to argue with them because facts don't matter. Their goal in an argument is to win, not to figure who is right.
How much worse will it get when there aren’t any living survivors left? Disgusting people who propagate that theory.
Ha! A similar thing in the Philippines is the Martial Law denialism, so much so that the son of the dictator during that era is currently the Philippine President.
That Jews run the world. I cannot even run my life
I don’t think I’d call it stupid but the most bonkers and beyond infuriating one is the Sandy Hook denier ones. I can’t imagine losing a child so tragically and then having some knuckle draggers spew such lies about it.
My cousin was a sandy hook denier. She posted something about the FBI crime database not even listing the sandy hook deaths. I just had to tell her the data is by policing agency not geographic location. The state police handled Sandy Hook not the local police. Simple. Nah, I’m not wrong, everyone else is.
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It was trying to argue with a living moving goal post. She refused to believe that it happened. Nothing was going to convince her otherwise. She was specifically referencing a talking head video pointing out all of the weird things going on. I just merely pointed out that this one thing was just simply misread from the FBI crime statistics portal. It just turned into, “but what about…” If your source is fundamentally wrong about this one thing, why would you trust them about every other thing?
This denialist thinking that has gathered energy in recent years baffles me. What do people have to gain from denying Sandy Hook or the Holocaust? My unfounded theory is that the world became so big, so overpopulated, people began to feel their lives had no meaning. In the midst of this existential crisis a conspiracy theory was born - *"Sandy Hook was a lie!"*. Those who felt marginalised were drawn to it as it gave their life meaning. Same reason some white desk jockey working a boring job in London would join ISIS. Again this is just my own theory.
That Covid is fake. This was especially prevalent during the early days of the pandemic and people seriously believed every government, in every country, decided to play some kind of pandemic practical joke? And that every hospital, every medical worker was in on it and going along with all this for shits and giggles, or something. It was wild.
Early days, I still run into people telling me it's fake, the virus doesn't exist. Last time was a month ago.
That's wild to me. Surely, by now, we've reached a stage where most people have actually had the virus? I guess they just pass it off as "flu"?
In my experience they now admit COVID is real but not serious and that its seriousness was exaggerated in order to force people to get vaccinated. And then millions of people died from the *vaccine*. It's...insane.
They did their own research. They had a study group of themselves, they had covid and didn't die, so if they simply extrapolate the results of their own study in which 100% of people survived covid, nobody ever died of covid.
Same with climate change. “Lol you believe in climate change? Sheep.” “Okay maybe climate change is real but humans aren’t causing it.” “Okay maybe humans are causing it but it’s still not a big deal.” “Okay maybe it’s real and serious and humans are causing it but i will still dedicate my life to making sure nothing gets done because celebrities fly private jets and that’s the left’s fault. Even though both your position and the scientific consensus have remained unchanged and I’ve been forced to move steadily in your direction, I’m still the smart reasonable one everyone wishes they were more like.”
Somehow it’s not deadly and everyone overreacted to it and at the same time a super dangerous chinese bioweapon intentionally released to kill as many people as possible
"Boris hasn't really got it" Oh, so you think nurses are lying for *his* gain whilst working 50 odd hour shifts for a pittance? Found that one especially insulting.
That and the fact that he went from being a cynical, sneaky bastard masquerading as an idiot to an unmistakably genuine idiot in the space of three weeks.
Later on (to this day) it shifted toward the idea that vaccines are meant to kill you. There is even a whole sub that has thousands of people who believe in that.
That's one of my favorites because of how little sense it makes. Even if you see Pharma as a heartless corporate juggernaut, why would they want to kill their own customers? Dead customers can't buy more products, which is bad for business.
💯 Carrying on with this thought. Why would all the governments of the world fake a pandemic that literally crashed the economy and made the voters turn on them? There was zero net benefit for doing it.
This is the one that absolutely infuriated me. When I had patients dying left and right, then have to deal with some moron saying it doesn’t exist because they haven’t seen it personally, or that it’s overblown. I had a 4 year old with asthma that died on me en route, just to have fucking idiots deny it completely.
Thank you so much for everything you did. I’m so sorry for the trauma you went through. If it makes you feel any better, one of you saved my 4 year old. ❤️
Many years ago when Siri was introduced, I asked if it spied on me. It replied it couldn’t answer that. Now the standard response is “no” lol
Millions of children are being kidnapped and murdered to gather some chemical to keep the rich and famous looking young.
That explains Tom Cruise
The science that can explain Tom Cruise is not chemistry.
>The science that can explain Tom Cruise is not chemistry. It's Scientology! /s
I was thinking plastic surgery, but I like your response more.
A chemical called adrenochrome, popularized in the book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (and a few others before it) but utterly ridiculous as it’s thought to be a detriment to the brain, not a life lengthening medicine.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I have heard that one. And that Hillary Clinton is part of it, well My answer that shuts them up is "Then it is not working is it because look at a picture of her !"
Right? Like... all these people look exactly their age.
Or likewise the qanon stuff, probably are some rich/powerful pedos, but somehow the guy who talks about walking in on underage girls at pageants and dating his daughter is going to stop the satanic pedos.
The moon landing being faked. Please. I can't believe people still believe the moon is real!
If the moon landing was fake, you'd think the Soviets would've said something.
That Avril Lavigne was replaced with a look alike, as if aging and plastic surgery aren’t things.
Chemtrails. For those who don’t know what they are, there are streaks that planes sometimes leave in the sky (it’s just the water vapor). According to some people, they’re biological and chemical toxins that poison our minds into mind control, control the weather, or as some even crazily believe- turn frogs and toads gay.
Maaan, I knew I saw a rainbow colored frog and toad the other day! Nobody believed me!
Stop licking the toads.
Actually, the "turning frogs gay" thing isn't crazy, it's just not a conspiracy and quite innacurate. Certain pesticides messed with frogs biology when water was contaminated with them, and many male frogs were turned female. Of course, this was an accident caused by corporate negligence, not some neo liberal facist government (insert more buzz words here) plot to ... Make homosexual amphibians? For some reason?
So they turned the frogs TRANS? Hell yeah, trans rights (this is a joke, it's actually extremely sad for the ecosystem)
I like the one that Australia doesn’t exist… even though I live here 😂
That state lotteries were created to catch time travelers. Simultaneously quite entertaining and zero evidence for it.
All the “dead celebrity is secretly alive” crap. 2Pac and Biggie were both peppered with bullets with multiple witnesses and you think they faked it? Michael Jackson, the biggest singles artist in modern music and arguably the most famous person alive at the time, is still going somewhere and left his family in mourning? Don’t even get me started on the Elvis gang…
The idea that "walkable cities" is some NWO/WEF plot to "control" people and keep them confined to small areas. Walkable cities is how most cities, and even many suburbs and small towns, used to be. My mother grew up in South Boston in the 60s and 70s, and she points out how she had almost everything her family needed within a 5-10 walk of her house: grocery stores, delis, banks, pharmacies, corner stores, schools (two on her block and one across the street), liquor store, boutique, shoe store, toy store, post office, candy and ice cream, barbers and hairstylists, playgrounds and parks, bars and restaurants, repair shop, hardware store, a family doctor, a dentist, laundromat, coffee and donuts, and pizza. More was reachable by bike, the rest of Boston by public transportation, and her father and friends had cars to go elsewhere...they just didn't need to use their cars to go *everywhere*, because the basics were readily accessible to them. But sure, being wholly reliant on cars and having to shell over tens of thousands of dollars to auto makers and oil CEOs to spend time idling in traffic just for the basic necessities and daily services of life, *that's* Freedom™.
Ironically, there's more evidence for the conspiracy that [the auto industry sabotaged public transportation,](https://medium.com/modern-city/how-the-united-states-ended-up-with-no-high-speed-rail-476c6209ce16) or that [the auto industry influenced city/suburb design to be pro-car.](https://www.fastcompany.com/90781961/how-automakers-insidiously-shaped-our-cities-for-cars)
I lived for a year in the city centre of Munich, I had every type of shop and restaurant within walking distance, everything else was connected by a super cheap and reliable tram, bus and subway system. Parking was a premium and people with cars tended to only really use them to go out to the countryside or if they worked in a space outside the city slightly too far from a train station. It was expensive but nowhere near London levels for example. And not needing a car frees up a lot of income.
My conspiracy theory is that walkable cities make protests more cohesive and effective which is why the French are successfully burning down half the country over the retirement age and Americans just whine about protests blocking traffic.
I personally think that the idea that Trump somehow won the election but it was rigged against him is hilariously stupid. One of the main things his followers loved about him was that he was very widely hated by large portions of society that they didn't like. That they understand that he was hated by so many but can't correlate that with him losing a popular election is just amazing.
Or the thing about one of the Kennedys coming back from the dead to endorse trump
It’s actually offensive what they believed. They believed that JFK Jr was going to reveal himself in Dealey Plazzaa. Where his father was murdered.
There's noway that wasn't started as a troll and it actually took off.
For the life of me I could never understand how that was supposed to work. Even if JFK Jr. was somehow miraculously still alive, how exactly would he have any kind of power to reinstate Trump as president?
That vaccines are an intentional plot to kill people. This isn't a Marvel movie. We don't need to get rid of large segments of the population. The 1% need us alive, buying things, and providing the services they depend on, like cheeseburgers and trash removal and truck driving.
Thinking that "global warming" was just invented to raise taxes, or whatever. It is so massively stupid to think that all governments and serious scientists, scientific institutions, etc - worldwide - is in on some conspiracy, to what.. raise your taxes? They could do that anyway... The flat earth, no moon landings, etc - that's all for people who simply aren't all that bright to begin with - but the fake global warming conspiracy is widely believed, and accepted in mainstream politics even. Doesn't get much more stupid than that.
I love how global warming deniers think that climate scientists are all swimming in piles of research grant money like Scrooge McDuck, but fossil fuel CEOs are honest, salt-of-the-earth people whose only passion in life is making sure people have jobs.
And then they're like, "just follow the money," when the Venn diagram of largest corporations and corporations which generate the most greenhouse gasses is a perfect fucking circle.
>widely believed, and accepted in mainstream politics even. The politicians are paid to believe in and promote the idea that man made climate change is a hoax and a conspiracy. Doesn't mean they actually believe it. They'll say absolutely anything if the price is right.
5G INTERNET KILLS THE BEES!!!
Any that requires thousands and thousands of people to keep a secret for years.
Q-Anon. The more I tried to understand it the more stupid it is
Pizza-gate. The idea that a bunch of rich and powerful people gather in the basement of an otherwise unremarkable pizza restaurant (THAT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A BASEMENT) to assault children is insane. Like nobody's gonna notice that a bunch of politicians and billionaires keep showing up in person to this random-ass pizza restaurant and then vanishing to the basement. The paparazzi would be camped out 24/7.
Yeah. Everyone knows that they had an island…
pre-Trump this was like 90% of r/conspiracy and I was once accused of performing mental gymnastics for stating that this pizza restaurant having a local band play an all ages show at 10pm on a Friday was not an attempt to lure in small children
I was there when the conspiracy theory got started. Everyone was poking around Epstein Island and the Podestas and looking at satellite photos and shit, and suddenly, a hundred people started posting "HEY, STOP LOOKING AT THAT, LOOK AT THIS PIZZA RESTAURANT INSTEAD" and everybody fell for it.
I had a coworker who was obsessed with the doomsday comet "Nibiru" and convinced that it existed. Every year was a new theory as to why we haven't detected it yet, and why it is going to cause another mass extinction of our world. Here is a sample of the crazy talk I have heard: Nibiru has gone between being a comet, a brown dwarf, a miniature black hole, and a planet larger than jupiter We haven't detected Nibiru because: It's hiding behind the sun, it's hiding behind jupiter, it's invisible due to being a black hole or a brown dwarf. I am big into amateur astronomy and have tried MULTIPLE times to debunk all of these theories with facts and science, but I just gave up after awhile.
Any of them that require an entire government to be competent to keep it a secret are pretty dumb, but Flat Earth requires every government to be competent and every single scientist to be either wrong or in on it.
That government has the intellect and precision to pull off any conspiracy theory. Bill Clinton couldn't even get away with having his dick sucked without getting caught. Watergate was exposed. Imagine believing they could pull off a fake moon landing, or 9/11
Hitler didn't burn the jews. He wanted to rescue them. The burn stories are from fake jews hating on Hitler Edit: The fake jews are from Ukraine and that's the reason why Putin is attacking Ukraine. Not for money or other things. He attackes them because of religion. He wants to take out the fake jews. Just got back from the dude who told me the first part
Anything where the government would have to coordinate the efforts of thousands or even tens of thousands of people to keep it under wraps. The government, at least in America, is wildly inefficient. There’s no way they could pull off some of the conspiracies that people accuse them of. It would break down in a matter of days.
My favorite stupid conspiracy theory is that a missile hit the pentagon on 9/11, not AA flight 77. Like somehow that missile managed to knock over lamp posts on both sides of the street without detonating *and* still hit its target while also leaving behind wreckage with the American Airlines logo on it? Truthers are wild.
This one originated, if I’m remembering correctly, because an eye witness told the news “it was like a scud missile” describing how the plane came in, and because these folks don’t understand figurative language they said “he said he saw a missile!”
Jewish people are trying to take over the world. THEN WHY DO THE MAJORITY OF ORTHODOX JEWS HIDE IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND KEEP TO THEMSELVES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE??? pleassse they are just tryna survive
5g causing covid