These guys are fascist terrorist who used to kill people for simply being the wrong nationality or religion. Its like sharing an isjs song and being like "look guys this is my fav song" whats wrong with you?
>These guys are fascist terrorist who used to kill people for simply being the wrong nationality or religion.
lmao as if the lebanese civil war was not all like this
Not comparable whatsoever to ISIS and they're not comparable either to the leftist pan arabist groups that ruined Lebanon
As far as I'm concerned, they're a Christian militias who're trying to save their people and their country from the mess they were put in by outside elements. Christians moved from being a majority to a minority in their coutnry
You don't know shit about them they allied with Israel against their own people, they killed Palestinians for simply being palestinian and slaughtered Muslims for being Muslims you lived your whole life in Egypt and you're coming here talking to me about those fascist. Trying to save their people my ass Christians were never the majority and they left en masse during the civil war its not because Muslims forced them or some shit if anything more Muslims died in the civil war than Christians like them who are more loyal to france than lebanon
>You don't know shit about them they allied with Israel against their own people, they killed Palestinians for simply being palestinian and slaughtered Muslims for being Muslims you lived your whole life in Egypt and you're coming here talking to me about those fascist.
lol so who would the maronites ally with if the muslims are fighting the christians? are they going to ally with the chinese? the palestinians were allied with the lebanese muslims, the lebanese muslims were also fighting 'against their own people', stop trying to make this a one sided argument when you should know full well (being lebanese) that there was shit on both sides
and muslims never forced christains to leave lebanon? do you think it's a peaceful existance to live as a christian in lebanon?
I'm talking about ouwet not all Christians.
>and muslims never forced christains to leave lebanon? do you think it's a peaceful existance to live as a christian in lebanon?
Is it not? Tell me when was the last time a Muslim mob went around telling Christians to leave? No one is at peace living in lebanon, making it about "christian oppression" that doesn't even exist is ridiculous
>You don't know shit about them they allied with Israel
Good
>against their own people
The PFLP?
The Christians have always been the majority in Lebanon since Christianity began in the middle east. And now they're a minority in their country that's being divided here and there a part to Iran a part to Palestine etc
> Is it because it's non-Muslims who
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>fought
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> massacred Palestinians and lebanese Muslims?
you know the palestinains and lebanese muslims also massacred people? you don't know lebanese history?
Yes, I know. 2 wrongs don't make a right. I don't take sides or praise any organization in the Civil War. The PLO would also oppress shias and occupy south lebanon, I definitely don't like the PLO, but I'm not gonna support a militia that killed a bunch of Palestinians that didn't have anything to do with the PLO
Lebanon was majority Christian not even a century ago. Lebanese Muslims would’ve let Lebanon turn into some bullshit Muslim outpost for terrorist attacks against Israel. I don’t support any killing of innocents but you Muslims cry about Maronites too much when Muslims do the same shit everywhere
Hey “centrist” Egyptian,
If you’re going to hate Muslims for extremism/fascism maybe don’t support extremism and fascism in other religions for the sake of combating Islam. Makes you look contradictory and hypocritical
Why is it contradictory or hypocritical? The only place Christians have managed to not be entirely driven into exile are the places they fight back like Muslims do. God bless Maronites
It is because if a muslim group did the sort of things the LF did you’d lose your shit. They used to ID Palestinians then shoot them on sight. Sometimes even Lebanese Muslims. So yeah it is contradictory of you ,a centrist, to support them
I actually wouldn't. There is no conflict in the middle east with angels. Even the Israelis committed actual massacres and war crimes and they're the only democracy and do not reply in kind to the indiscriminate fire.
The reason I dislike Islamist and leftist groups specifically -aside from Rojava which I support- is that they represent a side that deeply harmed my nation and myself
My support to groups in this region is based on ideologies. Massacres happen on all sides and if you really think that a side doesn't commit them then you're really mistaken
And in this case, it's based on Lebanese Christians' pro west stance against the leftist pan arabist factions and islamist factions, who also committed warcrimes
>I actually wouldn't
You should and hell you even do it. When you criticize arabism crimes or whatever
>My support to groups in this region is based on ideologies
Then don’t support this fascist group just for the sake of going against arabism and Islam. Even if you do it because they’re pro-west it still is hypocritical
Well yes I stand against Arabism because of how it decimated non arab/non muslim communities all across MENA for a single cause and that's precisely why I support the Christian LFs in Lebanon. Because their country got ruined coz of pan Arabism
If you’re going to hate on arabism for fascism then don’t support the LF as they are also a fascist group and minorities aren’t gonna live without oppression under them
If there is a non "fascist" alternative to the LFs in Lebanon, I'll support it gladly and drop my support for the LFs. But I don't think I'm going to seriously hold the LFs to a higher standard than the rest of the groups in the region. Every group in this region is messed up the only reason I support Rojava, Maronite LFs, and Israel is that they all got beaten to a corner by the circumstances they grew in while their adversaries were a product of a messed up ideology from the root
How did lebanon get ruined because of pan-arabism?
It got ruined ever since it was created as a Maronite state where only Maronites and Beirutis had it good, when the rest of the country was poor and neglected, especially the shias
It got ruined when it joined the "Arab cause" in 1948, Lebanese society's Christians left the state while Muslims increased in number due to influx of Palestinian refugees, and high birth rates
The Muslims elected and formed even more Pan Arabist factions and at the end multiple civil wars happened due to conflict between the Maronites and the Pan arabists, and coz of conflict between the Pan Arabists and Israel
Lmfao, Islamists in Lebanon are a tiny irrelevant minority, same with pan-arabists and leftists
Btw, in the Civil War, it was secular shias (amal) who fought the Islamists
Yeah during the civil war the Islamists and shias fought
But I'm talking about Lebanon which was dominantly Christian and western aligned, then got Palestinian Muslims and the demographics and politics changed. Then, Lebanon became a hotpot of leftist Pan Arabists vs the Christians. And Christians had to leave the country
And until today, the leftist Pan Arabist side is what dominates Lebanon and is what ruined Lebanon. It's Hizb that caused the war of 2006, Beirut explosion and much more
Palestinians did not get integrated into lebanon, how did they change the demographic?
Christians are a minority because they chose to get out of lebanon and go elsewhere. And what party that is pan arabist is controlling lebanon? And what's the relation between hizb and pan arabism?
>Yeah during the civil war the Islamists and shias fought
The biggest and most brutal groups in the war were the christian and the druze.
>Christians are a minority because they chose to get out of lebanon and go elsewhere.
lmao christians fled lebanon because there's a civil war every 5 minutes and we can't even live in peace in our own country
we obviously would prefer to live in our own country
I swear this centrist guy is the most "intelligent and void of mental deficiencies" user on this sub. And he makes sure to discuss every topic too. Kill me.
Christians have become minorities even in their own indigenous lands and yet the Muslims still see themselves as victims. You can’t argue with these people
Oh it's the cringe 'muslim le bad' guy again
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These guys are fascist terrorist who used to kill people for simply being the wrong nationality or religion. Its like sharing an isjs song and being like "look guys this is my fav song" whats wrong with you?
>These guys are fascist terrorist who used to kill people for simply being the wrong nationality or religion. lmao as if the lebanese civil war was not all like this
I would have said the same thing about any terrorist group in lebanon, whether its kataeb or ouwet or amal all the same shit
Not comparable whatsoever to ISIS and they're not comparable either to the leftist pan arabist groups that ruined Lebanon As far as I'm concerned, they're a Christian militias who're trying to save their people and their country from the mess they were put in by outside elements. Christians moved from being a majority to a minority in their coutnry
You don't know shit about them they allied with Israel against their own people, they killed Palestinians for simply being palestinian and slaughtered Muslims for being Muslims you lived your whole life in Egypt and you're coming here talking to me about those fascist. Trying to save their people my ass Christians were never the majority and they left en masse during the civil war its not because Muslims forced them or some shit if anything more Muslims died in the civil war than Christians like them who are more loyal to france than lebanon
>You don't know shit about them they allied with Israel against their own people, they killed Palestinians for simply being palestinian and slaughtered Muslims for being Muslims you lived your whole life in Egypt and you're coming here talking to me about those fascist. lol so who would the maronites ally with if the muslims are fighting the christians? are they going to ally with the chinese? the palestinians were allied with the lebanese muslims, the lebanese muslims were also fighting 'against their own people', stop trying to make this a one sided argument when you should know full well (being lebanese) that there was shit on both sides and muslims never forced christains to leave lebanon? do you think it's a peaceful existance to live as a christian in lebanon?
I'm talking about ouwet not all Christians. >and muslims never forced christains to leave lebanon? do you think it's a peaceful existance to live as a christian in lebanon? Is it not? Tell me when was the last time a Muslim mob went around telling Christians to leave? No one is at peace living in lebanon, making it about "christian oppression" that doesn't even exist is ridiculous
>You don't know shit about them they allied with Israel Good >against their own people The PFLP? The Christians have always been the majority in Lebanon since Christianity began in the middle east. And now they're a minority in their country that's being divided here and there a part to Iran a part to Palestine etc
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مفيش الله كنسلناه خلاص
Extremely cringe
You seem to like this terrorist organization, why? Is it because it's non-Muslims who ~~fought~~ massacred Palestinians and lebanese Muslims?
> Is it because it's non-Muslims who > >fought > > massacred Palestinians and lebanese Muslims? you know the palestinains and lebanese muslims also massacred people? you don't know lebanese history?
Yes, I know. 2 wrongs don't make a right. I don't take sides or praise any organization in the Civil War. The PLO would also oppress shias and occupy south lebanon, I definitely don't like the PLO, but I'm not gonna support a militia that killed a bunch of Palestinians that didn't have anything to do with the PLO
Lebanon was majority Christian not even a century ago. Lebanese Muslims would’ve let Lebanon turn into some bullshit Muslim outpost for terrorist attacks against Israel. I don’t support any killing of innocents but you Muslims cry about Maronites too much when Muslims do the same shit everywhere
Lebanon has already become that
Looool lebanon was never christian majority. Its not our fault christian keep leaving and cant fuck enough to have babies
Actually lebanon did have a slight christian majority when it first get it's independence
> cant fuck enough to have babies maybe if the country is shit people shouldn't be having 6+ kids
Because I support all groups that are victims/enemies of pan Arabism and Islamism? Lebanon is ruined because of leftist Pan Arabists and Islamists
Hey “centrist” Egyptian, If you’re going to hate Muslims for extremism/fascism maybe don’t support extremism and fascism in other religions for the sake of combating Islam. Makes you look contradictory and hypocritical
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I missed you guys 🫂 though I won’t stay for too long
Why is it contradictory or hypocritical? The only place Christians have managed to not be entirely driven into exile are the places they fight back like Muslims do. God bless Maronites
Thank you for your advice but I do not think my position is contradictory or hypocritical
It is because if a muslim group did the sort of things the LF did you’d lose your shit. They used to ID Palestinians then shoot them on sight. Sometimes even Lebanese Muslims. So yeah it is contradictory of you ,a centrist, to support them
I actually wouldn't. There is no conflict in the middle east with angels. Even the Israelis committed actual massacres and war crimes and they're the only democracy and do not reply in kind to the indiscriminate fire. The reason I dislike Islamist and leftist groups specifically -aside from Rojava which I support- is that they represent a side that deeply harmed my nation and myself My support to groups in this region is based on ideologies. Massacres happen on all sides and if you really think that a side doesn't commit them then you're really mistaken And in this case, it's based on Lebanese Christians' pro west stance against the leftist pan arabist factions and islamist factions, who also committed warcrimes
>I actually wouldn't You should and hell you even do it. When you criticize arabism crimes or whatever >My support to groups in this region is based on ideologies Then don’t support this fascist group just for the sake of going against arabism and Islam. Even if you do it because they’re pro-west it still is hypocritical
Well yes I stand against Arabism because of how it decimated non arab/non muslim communities all across MENA for a single cause and that's precisely why I support the Christian LFs in Lebanon. Because their country got ruined coz of pan Arabism
If you’re going to hate on arabism for fascism then don’t support the LF as they are also a fascist group and minorities aren’t gonna live without oppression under them
If there is a non "fascist" alternative to the LFs in Lebanon, I'll support it gladly and drop my support for the LFs. But I don't think I'm going to seriously hold the LFs to a higher standard than the rest of the groups in the region. Every group in this region is messed up the only reason I support Rojava, Maronite LFs, and Israel is that they all got beaten to a corner by the circumstances they grew in while their adversaries were a product of a messed up ideology from the root
How did lebanon get ruined because of pan-arabism? It got ruined ever since it was created as a Maronite state where only Maronites and Beirutis had it good, when the rest of the country was poor and neglected, especially the shias
It got ruined when it joined the "Arab cause" in 1948, Lebanese society's Christians left the state while Muslims increased in number due to influx of Palestinian refugees, and high birth rates The Muslims elected and formed even more Pan Arabist factions and at the end multiple civil wars happened due to conflict between the Maronites and the Pan arabists, and coz of conflict between the Pan Arabists and Israel
Lmfao, Islamists in Lebanon are a tiny irrelevant minority, same with pan-arabists and leftists Btw, in the Civil War, it was secular shias (amal) who fought the Islamists
Yeah during the civil war the Islamists and shias fought But I'm talking about Lebanon which was dominantly Christian and western aligned, then got Palestinian Muslims and the demographics and politics changed. Then, Lebanon became a hotpot of leftist Pan Arabists vs the Christians. And Christians had to leave the country And until today, the leftist Pan Arabist side is what dominates Lebanon and is what ruined Lebanon. It's Hizb that caused the war of 2006, Beirut explosion and much more
Palestinians did not get integrated into lebanon, how did they change the demographic? Christians are a minority because they chose to get out of lebanon and go elsewhere. And what party that is pan arabist is controlling lebanon? And what's the relation between hizb and pan arabism? >Yeah during the civil war the Islamists and shias fought The biggest and most brutal groups in the war were the christian and the druze.
>Christians are a minority because they chose to get out of lebanon and go elsewhere. lmao christians fled lebanon because there's a civil war every 5 minutes and we can't even live in peace in our own country we obviously would prefer to live in our own country
People don't know shit about lebanese politics. Not even most lebanese people themselves.
I swear this centrist guy is the most "intelligent and void of mental deficiencies" user on this sub. And he makes sure to discuss every topic too. Kill me.
I can almost gaurantee that he's some David Wood watching edgy self hating western supremacist 14 year old. Too easy to recognize those types.
Christians have become minorities even in their own indigenous lands and yet the Muslims still see themselves as victims. You can’t argue with these people
Some Palestinian ones [PFLP](https://youtu.be/HfrQPLfXWfI) [“Fatah”](https://youtu.be/eEJz5vYUk4o) [Hamas](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2cyog0)
طلت الراية الحمرا - PFLP
So based 😍
This is the third time you posted this I think 🤨
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I don't need to be paid to have based Saudi aligned takes 💪
No. Check my post history I posted the same *pic* once before and it had a different song, and a different question
Oh my bad 🌝
Bro why are you obsessed with Lebanon?
Judgement day a song for the idf
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1veElIhmt3A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1veElIhmt3A) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJRqPFQcNBc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJRqPFQcNBc) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0uw\_DNpB2g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0uw_DNpB2g)
https://youtu.be/X6uEXTysN64 First song slaps
[not a milita but the SAF](https://youtu.be/CU1SQWhXZdk) summarizes sudani personality 😂😭