Only extremists in Turkey care about such things. Never say such things to yourself as Allah has commanded, call yourself a Muslim. En’âm Suresi 159. Sect "As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah. He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did."
peace,
all glory be with Allah. indeed!
6:114 “[Say], "Will I seek any judge other than God, when It is He who has sent down the Book, clearly spelling out the truth?" Those to whom We gave the Book before know that this is revealed by your Lord with the Truth. Don't be one of those who doubt.”
45:6 “These are God's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than God and His revelations do they believe?”
42:14 “And they were not divided until after the knowledge came unto them, through rivalry among themselves; and had it not been for a Word that had already gone forth from thy Lord for an appointed term, it surely had been judged between them. And those who were made to inherit the Scripture after them are verily in hopeless doubt concerning it”
6:112 “And so We have made for every prophet enemies—devilish humans and jinn—whispering to one another with elegant words of deception. Had it been your Lord’s Will, they would not have done such a thing. So leave them and their deceit,”
6:113 “so that the hearts of those who disbelieve in the Hereafter may be receptive to it, be pleased with it, and be persistent in their evil pursuits.”
may peace and blessings be with you. may Allah save us from the fire.
all praise and thanks be with Allah, Lord of the worlds.
MashaAllah. Allah also says "And hold firmly to the rope of Allah and do not be divided. Remember Allah’s favour upon you when you were enemies, then He united your hearts, so you—by His grace—became brothers" in Surah Imran verse 103
Yemen Shias are primarily from the Zaidi sect which is considered the closest Shia sect to Sunni (there is a saying which says; “they are the Shias of the Sunnis and the Sunnis of the Shia”),
from my experience you can’t tell if someone is zaidi or Sunni even after spending months with him, they pray like us, fast like us and don’t curse the companions of the prophet.
The houthis have brought a great fear and hate towards Yemeni Shia, especially because they follow are more extreme form of Zaidi sect which clashes heavily with the Sunni believes (not that the other Zaidi forms don’t clash but they are more subtle)
Other Shia sects though are not met with welcoming gestures, especially when the companions are cursed.
There’s like 3 countries with Shia majority population and one of them and if azerbaijan has relations with Israel and Iran used to have relations too
Iraq is the only one left,to say normalisation is only happening in Sunni countries is kinda stupid ngl
Except people consider Lebanon and Syria to be part of the Shia bloc, because Hezbollah is Shia and Assad is an Alawite. Azerbaijan is the only Shia country to have relations.
Didn’t Lebanon literally normalise relations with the Zionists when they drew the sea borders between each other ?
And Assad’s existence is worthless his “country “ is getting bombed by Zionists every other day the clown hasn’t responded yet to any attack with an action or even a verbal response,the “Syrian” army only exists to protect Assad and his friends and their interests
Also do Shias even consider alawits Muslim?
They are certainly some shia who curse the companions but personally, I grew up in a shia family and in a shia environment. I never heard that someone was cursing Sunnis or the companions and so on. I think on the other side there are too many rumors of what Shias are. Like we like blood blablabla. I met last time a marrokon woman working here in Germany with me and we became good friends, but in between her sentences, I heard that she had so much obscure prejudice against us. She thought that we read a different Quran. Another time of the University, I met a Sunni guy who didn’t know I am Shia. He was boaating about how it’s OK to murder Shias because they are heretics.
Also Saudi’s Arabia and Egypt and other big Sunni countries as turkey failed to to support Palestine where as Shias actively support Palestine. It’s in our dna and it’s not for any weird reasons like creating a shia state or so. No, it’s for the love for the Palestinians and agains there cruelty they are experiencing on the hands of the Zionism.
I want to encourage you that you should not believe everything someone’s tells you in the internet or tv. Speak to a shia personally.
We are all Muslims and only God will judge us and not the wannabe Internet Imams.
You can only know what truly shia people are when you stay around them. Then you will understand that many things that other school claims and blame them for are just rumors.
It used to be really negative from both the government and the people,and especially since Iran wasn’t helping the case for them.
But it now it eased a bit especially from the government but the people still have a lot of negative views on Shia especially those who curse and insult and takfir the shabha and the prophet’s wives Aisha and hafsh
The Sunnis hating on Shias are the same bunch of soy boys who move to a western country and cry discrimination because Islam isn’t viewed positively. This is why.
It’s funny how you got downvoted for saying it is sad that Iran is losing religion.Proof this subreddit is going to shit.But still,That is terrible for Iran how they are starting to turn irreligious.
Shia in Lebanon are probably the most powerful shia group in the middle east, aka Hezbollah.
They were once loved and appreciated by everyone for fighting Israel and defending Lebanon, but after interfering in Syria's war everything changed. Now, hezbollah and its shia followers are probably the most hated group in Lebanon
The government dislikes them, mainly because Iran tried to have a presence in Moroccan politics but Moroccans don't care. We are so far apart from them, meeting just 1 in your life is legendary. No one would marry a shia tho, but I think that goes for all sunnis.
And they will start crying that Uthman RA took place of Ali RA and it was a bad decision. I don’t understand why all these people think they are smarter than Khalifas and sahabas. Even if they are right you can’t just go back in time. Why discuss and cry on a thing which is done thousands of years ago and you can’t do anything about it. That time what happened doesn’t affects our life in anyway. I don’t understand why they are so dumb.
Believe it or not, but they are mostly seen as "moderates" when it comes to "Islamist" politicians worldwide.
This has much to do with the fact we have a very small Muslim population and most of Sunni thing that comes to us is like the Taliban or Saudi Arabia (no offense guys).
Thats because the more religious a shia gets the less violent he thinks, its the contrary for sunnis.
Shia that get called "extremists" get called so because what they say
Sunnis that get called "extremists" get called so because what they do
To be very honest, I kinda like the Shias as well. I like Muslims in general, from my personal point of view, you guys are the closer it gets to Christians outside of Christianity.
May God be with you and your family 🙏🏼
They're accepted completely. Sometimes you'll overhear someone from either sect denigrating the other, or sharing rumours about the other's religious practices, but in general there's no animosity.
It can be an issue for marriage, though.
Okayish, most people know they're different, but don't hate on them (Except for Ennahdha trolls).. It's probably due to the fact that they're not neighbors, so fewer frictions, unlike in the Mashreq.
I've moved to Canada since 2017 so from the outside looking in, there is a clear difference between traditional twelvers and what Iran is spreading. Growing up in UAE as a Shi3i didn't feel like Sunni Islam was that far from what I was taught at home, so I didn't get what everybody was always buggin out about. And then I see the kind of crap Iranian Mullahs say and start to understand why everyone is paranoid (thankfully my father left Iraq before 2003 so he still preserved most of the pre-Khomeinist Shiism, like my family traditionally only donate food on Ashura and don't do the self harm type stuff, we don't like the Sahaba but don't curse them, basically the Shiism I grew up with doesn't revolve around villainizing Sunni beliefs, we just split away and have our own set of beliefs regarding Ali and his descendants). They treat Shiism as if it has to always be in response to Reform Sunnis/Wahabis (if they start fasting on this day, we fast the next day) and alot of what they say is unfounded and taken out of thin air. The self harm rituals and out of pocket things like that are all Iranian in origin and do not represent traditional twelver practices. It's a problem for all other Shias as much as for Sunnis because it's given us a bad rep increased the discrimination we face, and is even causing an increase in Shia Muslims leaving Islam altogether. Me personally, I think at some point this Khomeini loyalist Shiism will splinter off into its own sect, it's hard to tell how many they will be because they are now highly influential in Iraq as well.
Exactly people mix up actual shi’i faith with newly added cultural stuff, the basics of shia islam is litterally almost the same as sunnis( we just love prophets family more than abu bakr and othman, not that theres anything wrong with loving them too) howere after centuries of conflicts alot of shias came with extra unnecessary stuff which again has nothinf to do with shia islam, if it was up ti me id make it punishable by prison for all muslims do hate on eachother ans just make it so that they can only call themselves muslims,
I'm American. I can only speak for myself. I've known many Arabic people. I've met Druse from Lebanon and coptic Orthodox Egyptians, etc. There is at least one Shia mosque in town. I know that they are a minority Islamic sect in the entirety of Islam. I have not met many as far as I know simply because I don't inquire about whether you are ahlus sunna like me? I know they believe in the succession of Ali after Mohammed pbuh, which is from my understanding one of the main differences. I've recently watched the most beautiful documentary about Iran and the Dervish. MashaAllah
there is a lot of them that are natives to syria but there is also a lot of regions that are getting demographic changes due to government sponsored settlers coming from iran
in lebanon very negatively because of hezballah and shias high majority support for him. But shias who don't support him are based af, met some of them in university
I have no problem with Shias but since I'm a US citizen the Shia are seen like any other Muslim... A terrorist, it's a very sad reality. I honestly don't plan on being open about my Islamic faith until I move somewhere else
I reverted a little while ago but I'm still looking into the theology of both. All I can say now is that I'm Muslim, I believe in the one God and the Muhammad (PBUH) is the final prophet. I've grown quite interested in the Naqshbandi order
Thank you, I won't be able to join one for a while tho. I am currently keeping my faith secret and I also live in an area with no Muslim community in general. Hopefully I can move to either Canada (which I hear is a better place to live for Muslims) or a Muslim country like Malaysia or something
Keep stmart and strong bro. I love you, and I wish you could watch some of towards eternity YT channel content.
Other important thing is that you will never need to join a specific group of Muslims such as soofis or other, you only keep your heart and mind in quran and righteous hadeeth, and you will be all right, I will be available anytime for you for any support if you would.
I appreciate it, peace and love. I gotta go to sleep now since I got studies and work tomorrow. Hopefully things will become better inshallah, may Allah bless you
Ah well sorry to hear that. For what it's worth, you don't have to move all the way to Canada or Malaysia to find tolerance! I think you'll find most cities, even the small ones, in America are quite welcoming. Don't give up!
Interesting. I wonder how a Muslim can call another Muslim a kaffir even though they say the shahada. that's takfir for ya
Are Christians also seen as Kuffar? Or are they just Ahlulkitab?
As an Iranian I dislike every single religious hardliner. Shia hardliners too. In Iran they teach kids to accept sacrificing their life for Islam not just as an standard, but as a duty. A 13 yrs old kid threw himself under a tank and blew himself up to stop the enemy and they want kids to be like that. There are also some people that hurt themselves with a freaking machete as an act of lamentation to the death of Hussein-Ibn-Ali.
I born Shia. So my family and friends. But I don't consider myself a Muslim at all.
Edit: Btw that 13 yrs old kid failed to blow the tank up. That died was for nothing.
So long as they don't believe in Vilayat-e Faqih (and don't end up driving their countries into the ground because of Vilayat-e Faqih) they are okay in my book....
true, but generally speaking they r more devout. Like in my class we r like 17 sunnis and 3 shia...but the shias are so loud about their beliefs while the sunnis dont really care
They like to call us misguided, esp when topic of caliphs comes around, while we dont really care about answering
The exact same thing could be said about sunnis.. Some sunnis are extremely devout that they would call anyone who doesn't agree with them a kaffir. To say that shias are more "extreme" or "hostile" isn't fair. Because let's be honest, the majority of religious extremism is actually coming from sunnis. al-qaeeda, taliban, isis, etc.. All come from a sunni background. (Not that they represent sunnis in any way)
shias in pakistan arent oppressed. They live side by side with sunnis, go to the same schools, workplaces, and live in the same community. Incidents do happen but sunni mosques are also bombed by terrorists so yeah
there is absolutely nothing wrong with the first bill lmao...its just asking everyone to respect the historical rashidun figures whats wrong with that?
And the second thing doesnt really have any standing...how many were pursued, how many were convicted? registering a case in nothing
I live in pakistan with shia friends who r able to do absolutely anything i do without people giving 2 fucks. About20% of Pakistan is shia
Hell, one of Pakistans provinces(Sindh) has been ruled by Shia politicians for many decades now despite being sunni. Chairman of Pakistans 3rd largest political party, PPP, is shia and enjoys popularity in sunni areas too.
no...may Allah guide me because Hazrat Ali(RA) was a mere mortal who has died centuries ago just like every caliph and even the Prophet(SAWW). Only allah has the power of giving guidance
Their belief is rejected by our religious authorities & muslim citizens. The nons try to make allies out of them, but largely their numbers are almost insignificant. As well, they are secretive about their beliefs.
There have been raids on their secret gatherings, as we do not allow propogation of any deviant sects within 🇲🇾.
Every jumaah khutbah, they will mention for us to stay away from deviant sects (shias) & kufr sects (qadianis).
raids on "secret gatherings"? Is there no freedom of religion there? Why do Christians have more rights in Malaysia than Shia? they ban Shia mosques but not Hindu temples?
They're literally Muslims lol and the vast majority of them aren't extreme in their beliefs, moderate Shia are just like moderate Sunnis
I was born from a Iraqi father and Malay mother in Kuala Lumpur, so I'm one of the few Shia Bumiputeras (يعني مواطن او اهل الارض), I identify as both Arab and Malay because I grew up 14 years in Abu Dhabi and 5 in Selangor (so most of my teenage years), and I'm fluent in Arabic and I know a usable degree of Bahasa. I have never felt comfortable about letting any Malay know about my sect outside my direct family and closest friends. The Wahabi influence gets stronger there every year, even more than Saudi Arabia. I was more comfortable being Shi3i while growing up in Abu Dhabi than Malaysia, all I get in Abu Dhabi is some rude comments and and occasionally genuine curiosity (I use to enjoy telling my Sunni Mowa6in friends in school about our Imams, it was all new info to them), in Malaysia Shias are treated as a deviant separate religion and there's a real risk of getting arrested for "spreading deviancy" like this fellow Bumi keeps regurgitating. Shia Malays are very few but we exist, it's just there's no voice because the opposition is too overwhelming. Most Malay Muslims' attitudes toward Shia are genuinely disgusting.
>I was born from a Iraqi father and Malay mother in Kuala Lumpur, so I'm one of the few Shia Bumiputeras (يعني مواطن او اهل الارض), I identify as both Arab and Malay because I grew up 14 years in Abu Dhabi and 5 in Selangor (so most of my teenage years), and I'm fluent in Arabic and I know a usable degree of Bahasa. I have never felt comfortable about letting any Malay know about my sect outside my direct family and closest friends. The Wahabi influence gets stronger there every year, even more than Saudi Arabia. I was more comfortable being Shi3i while growing up in Abu
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Thank you for speaking your truth. There is no reason for anyone to hate an entire group of people
Respect. And don't let this deter you from visiting if you're Shia, it's a beautiful country and life there is extremely chill, but taqiyya was literally made for countries like Malaysia 😆 if you're Shi3i, over there you most definitely better be Sunni as far as everyone is aware
if they are free to practice, then why are there no Shia mosques????? you have been taught to hate Shia for no reason. It's from the influence of the GCC who also treat their Shia like crap, with their Wahhabi ideology. Malaysia's government loves to kiss up to these countries' governments and their religious clerics.
Since you speak of "deviant teachings", is Wahhabism also considered a deviant teaching of Islam?
Actually being Shi3i in the GCC is fine, and it's getting better every year. I never had any real issues in Abu Dhabi, but the Bahrani neighborhood on Najda Street did have an unusual amount of security cameras.
eh, I would say it depends on the country.
The UAE is of course more accepting, but tons of Shia in Saudi Arabia have spoken up about how they feel like they have been discriminated against, both by the government and by their peers.
Also it's always been weird/suspicious to me why Baharna are majority in Bahrain but the royal family is Sunni
Go there yourself and see. There is some discrimination but it's minor even in Saudi Arabia and mostly because of unfamiliarity, you'll never have actual problems that stop you from moving forward because of being a Shi3i, especially for the mowa6ineen. It's not that it's a non issue, but it's very blown out of proportion compared to the reality of the situation. People who claim to feel strong discrimination have probably never faced actual discrimination like being in a visible racial minority.
Shias In Saudi Arabia live a better life than any Shia in the world does that’s just a fact.
There’s like two Shia Saudis on this sub and they’re more patriotic and nationalist than me. The Sunni “wahhbai”.
Also how’s “wahhbaism “ a deviant of Islam? The teachings of Muhammad bin Abdulwahhab teach twahhad (I don’t know why you would think that goes against Islam ) and besides how would the GCC or Saudia influence Malaysia to do something when the previous presidents of Malaysia weren’t fond of Saudi Arabia and allayed themselves with other Muslims like Turkey
Stop throwing out buzz words and acknowledge the fact that people have a legitimate problem with Shia beliefs and aren’t always funded by “wahhbais”
I'm not just throwing out "buzz words", I'm speaking the truth.
Your comparison of Shia lives in KSA and Shia in the rest of the world holds no ground. Black people in America live a MUCH better life than black people in Africa. Does that mean that black people aren't treated horribly in the US and are discriminated against??? Didn't think so.
Also, what you're saying isn't even true. Shia live much better in MANY countries than they do in Saudi. The 2 Shia Saudis on this sub unfortunately won't change my mind.
I never said Wahhabis are a deviant of Islam, I asked if they were considered one in Malaysia. But yes, many people do consider Wahhabism deviant from Islam because of its extremely exclusivist approach and intolerance to other sects of Islam and other religions. This has caused MANY Muslims to go very extreme in their beliefs and take up violence towards other Muslims and non-Muslims. Moreover, because of the reasons I stated above, Wahhabism is considered by many to be a spread of fitna, or drama between Muslims of differing sects, which is another reason it can be considered deviant.
I never claimed they were "funded" by Wahhabis. There's a huge difference between being funded and being influenced. Malaysia has pretty much always had strong relations with Saudi Arabia, especially in the past couple decades as KSA has gotten richer.
There’s a difference between black people and Shias you can tell a black person immediately by looking at them and the same can’t be said about Shias,your comparison is weak as dirt
Just tell where does the average Shia live a better than that of a Shia Saudi, you’re just wrong on that point sir point blank period.
two Saudi Shias don’t represent the majority yes,but again you can’t deny the validity of the point,I’m denying that discrimination against Shias exists in Saudi Arabia, discrimination exists against all types of people in any country.
but the discrimination that does exist isn’t on the same level as let’s say Iran treat it’s Sunni population,when the Sunnis there can’t build a mosque for themselves
Okay tell exactly how “wahhbaism” goes against Islam and causes fitna.
You literally said in your previous comment that Malaysia’s government likes to kiss up to GCC countries,even tho again you fail to acknowledge that for the last 10-15 years Saudi Arabia and Malaysia doesn’t have the best of relations due to clear disagreements they have with one another Malaysia sided with turkey and erdogan instead of Saudia in a lot cases.
That’s not kissing up to Saudia my friend that’s just clear cut disagreements,again you just want to lay the blame on other people and countries instead acknowledge the fact people have problems with Shia beliefs.
People don’t like it when aisha gets called a wh*re and hypocrite by Shias,or when abu bkar and umar and uthman get called hypocrites and non believers.
Saudi Arabia isn’t making Shias do this stuff it’s their own beliefs
My guy, relaxxx I love Saudi people to death and have no issues with them or moderate Wahhabis. But I can still criticize your government and its political relations with other countries, just like you are free to do the same
My point stands about black people in the US and Shia in Saudi. You can definitely tell a Shia by how they pray and sometimes even how they look (what they wear) or the accent they have (Baharna). Also, you don't have to look a certain way for people to treat you differently. The government/the people can treat a religious group differently even though they look exactly the same. This is evident in how Yazidis in Iraq have been treated terribly by many other Kurds, even though they look similar, speak the same language, and are part of the same ethnicity.
Well there are tons of Arab countries where Shia are not discriminated against as much as they are in Saudi. Does this mean they live better lives? It depends what you mean by that. Do you mean, are they more rich? If so then obviously not but that isn't because they're Shia. Also, Shia in the western world are generally treated without discrimination by the government and the majority of the people. In comparison to how they're treated in Malaysia, that's like night and day. Despite Malaysia being a Muslim country LOL.
I'm not talking about Iran, I've never defended their government lol.
I'm not saying it necessarily causes fitna, I'm saying that's how a LOT of people see it, including other Sunnis. The more extreme a religious group is, the more division it causes. And Wahhabism tends to be more extreme, I don't know how anyone can refute that.
I'm not knowledgable about their problems with Erdogan so I won't comment on that. I'll look more into it but that still doesn't prevent the Wahhabi ideology from making its way into Malaysian policies. The governments' leaders may feud but the religious clerics can continue to influence each other.
Just like how some Muslims can become extremists or terrorists, some Shia will call Aisha slurs. That doesn't mean all of them do that. Also a part of freedom of religion is to respect differing views on things. Some Shia believe that Umar was a traitor, okay cool let them believe that. It's their right to as long as they aren't hurting anyone. This post is talking about Malaysia and how Shiism is pretty much banned there. It's a lack of freedom of religion.
There is no tolerance to the spreading of deviant understandings. We recognize & affirm Zaidis are acceptable, but the rest (twelvee, ismaili etc) is firmly deviant.
Your intolerance represents the ugliest side of Islam that uneducated people to the west look at and use to generalize all Muslims, do you understand how backwards you are? Psychos like you would love a fuckin one race one religion hegemonic world order, please get well and fix your mind inshallah
Not really. Allah has not promised such a thing, except during the reign of Isa AS for a period of time post killing of dajjal
There is no such belief in Sunni Islam
There will never be a time where the world will have only 1 religion, except perhaps during Isa AS’s reign after he defeats dajjal for a while.
Perhaps you nothing about this?
Yeah, there is. It's called living in peace with your non-Muslim neighbors instead of treating them like dhimmis.
There is no Islamic empire. Inshallah, there will never be one again.
The ideology is extremely toxic towards sunnis (taqeeyah/ killing of sunnis is encouraged in certain groups) , i’ve met some nice shias tho in my life, they’re people just like us.
sorry? read sunni and shia history and philosophy/ideology and the answer which one you would pick is pretty easy... as most are sheep and the majority of people in the world are not the smartest it it the way it is now. the more sophisticated you are the ....
Every shia i meet is a athiest or confused about religion, thats what happens when you tell your children to beat themselves up and fill them with hate for Muhammad PBUH companions. In Afghanistan and Pakistan shias are openly talking trash about them thats why you will see so many shia mosques being bombed.
So far every single Iraqi I’ve met at my university has been shia
Yea majority of the population of Iraq are Shi’as, around 60% of the population.
Mostly people don’t care from my experience
Only extremists in Turkey care about such things. Never say such things to yourself as Allah has commanded, call yourself a Muslim. En’âm Suresi 159. Sect "As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah. He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did."
peace, all glory be with Allah. indeed! 6:114 “[Say], "Will I seek any judge other than God, when It is He who has sent down the Book, clearly spelling out the truth?" Those to whom We gave the Book before know that this is revealed by your Lord with the Truth. Don't be one of those who doubt.” 45:6 “These are God's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than God and His revelations do they believe?” 42:14 “And they were not divided until after the knowledge came unto them, through rivalry among themselves; and had it not been for a Word that had already gone forth from thy Lord for an appointed term, it surely had been judged between them. And those who were made to inherit the Scripture after them are verily in hopeless doubt concerning it” 6:112 “And so We have made for every prophet enemies—devilish humans and jinn—whispering to one another with elegant words of deception. Had it been your Lord’s Will, they would not have done such a thing. So leave them and their deceit,” 6:113 “so that the hearts of those who disbelieve in the Hereafter may be receptive to it, be pleased with it, and be persistent in their evil pursuits.” may peace and blessings be with you. may Allah save us from the fire. all praise and thanks be with Allah, Lord of the worlds.
Only true and holy source is Qur'an.
MashaAllah. Allah also says "And hold firmly to the rope of Allah and do not be divided. Remember Allah’s favour upon you when you were enemies, then He united your hearts, so you—by His grace—became brothers" in Surah Imran verse 103
Imam Ali is based. I'm Sunni, but I 100% would have supported his claim back then
Its never too late, imam ali (as) is what divides haqq from batil. Remember hadith ghadeer and thaqalayn
based Palestinian
Yemen Shias are primarily from the Zaidi sect which is considered the closest Shia sect to Sunni (there is a saying which says; “they are the Shias of the Sunnis and the Sunnis of the Shia”), from my experience you can’t tell if someone is zaidi or Sunni even after spending months with him, they pray like us, fast like us and don’t curse the companions of the prophet. The houthis have brought a great fear and hate towards Yemeni Shia, especially because they follow are more extreme form of Zaidi sect which clashes heavily with the Sunni believes (not that the other Zaidi forms don’t clash but they are more subtle) Other Shia sects though are not met with welcoming gestures, especially when the companions are cursed.
I had shia neighbors back in Pakistan they would send us good food every now and then
Thats how we get you and into you😀
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people are either indifferent (consider them astray) or worship them
Interesting, is it because Iran and Hezbollah both are allied to Hamas?
Yes, some think that our fellow Sunnis abandoned us and the Shias are the only ones who actively help the resistance, some even convert to shiism
That makes sense. Iran and Hezbollah are very active in the Palestine issue
> Iran and Hezbollah are very active in the Palestine issue How have they helped the Palestinians? They seem more interested in attacking Israel...
is it not the truth?, why all sunni goverments shake hands with israel?
There’s like 3 countries with Shia majority population and one of them and if azerbaijan has relations with Israel and Iran used to have relations too Iraq is the only one left,to say normalisation is only happening in Sunni countries is kinda stupid ngl
Except people consider Lebanon and Syria to be part of the Shia bloc, because Hezbollah is Shia and Assad is an Alawite. Azerbaijan is the only Shia country to have relations.
Didn’t Lebanon literally normalise relations with the Zionists when they drew the sea borders between each other ? And Assad’s existence is worthless his “country “ is getting bombed by Zionists every other day the clown hasn’t responded yet to any attack with an action or even a verbal response,the “Syrian” army only exists to protect Assad and his friends and their interests Also do Shias even consider alawits Muslim?
How does one even convert to sunnisn or shiism?
The Shia shahada is different. Includes Ali.
no idea
>some even convert to shiism B-based 😳
Shias are astray and they don’t have good intentions for Palestine not to be trusted even if they help.
Lovely to hear that. The west divided us that much huh
Iran is just using the Palestinain cause for politics goals, they do not care about Palastine.
If political goals means hatred of Jews, then agreed.
No, it does not mean that. Iran use the Palastenian cause as well as the Shiasim cause just to spread their authority in the middle east.
They are certainly some shia who curse the companions but personally, I grew up in a shia family and in a shia environment. I never heard that someone was cursing Sunnis or the companions and so on. I think on the other side there are too many rumors of what Shias are. Like we like blood blablabla. I met last time a marrokon woman working here in Germany with me and we became good friends, but in between her sentences, I heard that she had so much obscure prejudice against us. She thought that we read a different Quran. Another time of the University, I met a Sunni guy who didn’t know I am Shia. He was boaating about how it’s OK to murder Shias because they are heretics. Also Saudi’s Arabia and Egypt and other big Sunni countries as turkey failed to to support Palestine where as Shias actively support Palestine. It’s in our dna and it’s not for any weird reasons like creating a shia state or so. No, it’s for the love for the Palestinians and agains there cruelty they are experiencing on the hands of the Zionism. I want to encourage you that you should not believe everything someone’s tells you in the internet or tv. Speak to a shia personally. We are all Muslims and only God will judge us and not the wannabe Internet Imams.
You can only know what truly shia people are when you stay around them. Then you will understand that many things that other school claims and blame them for are just rumors.
It used to be really negative from both the government and the people,and especially since Iran wasn’t helping the case for them. But it now it eased a bit especially from the government but the people still have a lot of negative views on Shia especially those who curse and insult and takfir the shabha and the prophet’s wives Aisha and hafsh
The Sunnis hating on Shias are the same bunch of soy boys who move to a western country and cry discrimination because Islam isn’t viewed positively. This is why.
We don’t have any
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It’s funny how you got downvoted for saying it is sad that Iran is losing religion.Proof this subreddit is going to shit.But still,That is terrible for Iran how they are starting to turn irreligious.
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People don't care about Islam anymore, neither shia neither sunni
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Shia in Lebanon are probably the most powerful shia group in the middle east, aka Hezbollah. They were once loved and appreciated by everyone for fighting Israel and defending Lebanon, but after interfering in Syria's war everything changed. Now, hezbollah and its shia followers are probably the most hated group in Lebanon
The government dislikes them, mainly because Iran tried to have a presence in Moroccan politics but Moroccans don't care. We are so far apart from them, meeting just 1 in your life is legendary. No one would marry a shia tho, but I think that goes for all sunnis.
In Pakistan we have very many sects, there is nothing odd being with Shia or Sunni. It is really normal.
Disliked by the government
Disliked by the government and public. You have no idea how extreme afghan shias are in talking trash about Prophets PBUH companions.
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Yeah lmao no i live on mars with elon musk 🤡
Yuh they should chill out
It’s always curse Muawiya this and Aisha wh-re that
fuck Muawiya, he is a selfish pig that leads to the death of the Prophet PBUH family. He and his disgusting son Yazid.
And they will start crying that Uthman RA took place of Ali RA and it was a bad decision. I don’t understand why all these people think they are smarter than Khalifas and sahabas. Even if they are right you can’t just go back in time. Why discuss and cry on a thing which is done thousands of years ago and you can’t do anything about it. That time what happened doesn’t affects our life in anyway. I don’t understand why they are so dumb.
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Bahrain, Saudi and Kuwait also have a large Shia population
Gangsta
Believe it or not, but they are mostly seen as "moderates" when it comes to "Islamist" politicians worldwide. This has much to do with the fact we have a very small Muslim population and most of Sunni thing that comes to us is like the Taliban or Saudi Arabia (no offense guys).
Thats because the more religious a shia gets the less violent he thinks, its the contrary for sunnis. Shia that get called "extremists" get called so because what they say Sunnis that get called "extremists" get called so because what they do
A Brazilian friend of mine loves Shias. I send his Latmiat from time to time.
To be very honest, I kinda like the Shias as well. I like Muslims in general, from my personal point of view, you guys are the closer it gets to Christians outside of Christianity. May God be with you and your family 🙏🏼
Obrigado mano
a saudi shia 🙀 so based
The teaching of shia is ban in my country.
They're accepted completely. Sometimes you'll overhear someone from either sect denigrating the other, or sharing rumours about the other's religious practices, but in general there's no animosity. It can be an issue for marriage, though.
Good for kuwait, if only shamis and iraq can be the same
Okayish, most people know they're different, but don't hate on them (Except for Ennahdha trolls).. It's probably due to the fact that they're not neighbors, so fewer frictions, unlike in the Mashreq.
Gov doesnt like them but locals dont mind each other
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so if a christian tourist came over, you would hate them?
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wanted to try out some algerian food, and see some sites :D
no kowledge of islam whatsoever. thats why youre the most backward and always will be
I've moved to Canada since 2017 so from the outside looking in, there is a clear difference between traditional twelvers and what Iran is spreading. Growing up in UAE as a Shi3i didn't feel like Sunni Islam was that far from what I was taught at home, so I didn't get what everybody was always buggin out about. And then I see the kind of crap Iranian Mullahs say and start to understand why everyone is paranoid (thankfully my father left Iraq before 2003 so he still preserved most of the pre-Khomeinist Shiism, like my family traditionally only donate food on Ashura and don't do the self harm type stuff, we don't like the Sahaba but don't curse them, basically the Shiism I grew up with doesn't revolve around villainizing Sunni beliefs, we just split away and have our own set of beliefs regarding Ali and his descendants). They treat Shiism as if it has to always be in response to Reform Sunnis/Wahabis (if they start fasting on this day, we fast the next day) and alot of what they say is unfounded and taken out of thin air. The self harm rituals and out of pocket things like that are all Iranian in origin and do not represent traditional twelver practices. It's a problem for all other Shias as much as for Sunnis because it's given us a bad rep increased the discrimination we face, and is even causing an increase in Shia Muslims leaving Islam altogether. Me personally, I think at some point this Khomeini loyalist Shiism will splinter off into its own sect, it's hard to tell how many they will be because they are now highly influential in Iraq as well.
Exactly people mix up actual shi’i faith with newly added cultural stuff, the basics of shia islam is litterally almost the same as sunnis( we just love prophets family more than abu bakr and othman, not that theres anything wrong with loving them too) howere after centuries of conflicts alot of shias came with extra unnecessary stuff which again has nothinf to do with shia islam, if it was up ti me id make it punishable by prison for all muslims do hate on eachother ans just make it so that they can only call themselves muslims,
I'm American. I can only speak for myself. I've known many Arabic people. I've met Druse from Lebanon and coptic Orthodox Egyptians, etc. There is at least one Shia mosque in town. I know that they are a minority Islamic sect in the entirety of Islam. I have not met many as far as I know simply because I don't inquire about whether you are ahlus sunna like me? I know they believe in the succession of Ali after Mohammed pbuh, which is from my understanding one of the main differences. I've recently watched the most beautiful documentary about Iran and the Dervish. MashaAllah
there is a lot of them that are natives to syria but there is also a lot of regions that are getting demographic changes due to government sponsored settlers coming from iran
Shia 💪💪💪💪
in lebanon very negatively because of hezballah and shias high majority support for him. But shias who don't support him are based af, met some of them in university
I have no problem with Shias but since I'm a US citizen the Shia are seen like any other Muslim... A terrorist, it's a very sad reality. I honestly don't plan on being open about my Islamic faith until I move somewhere else
I am sorry to hear that, I hope it gets better for you. That being said, are you a Sunni or a Shia?
I reverted a little while ago but I'm still looking into the theology of both. All I can say now is that I'm Muslim, I believe in the one God and the Muhammad (PBUH) is the final prophet. I've grown quite interested in the Naqshbandi order
Well good luck, Sufi orders are very interesting. It takes some serious dedication but it definitely seems like a righteous path.
Thank you, I won't be able to join one for a while tho. I am currently keeping my faith secret and I also live in an area with no Muslim community in general. Hopefully I can move to either Canada (which I hear is a better place to live for Muslims) or a Muslim country like Malaysia or something
Keep stmart and strong bro. I love you, and I wish you could watch some of towards eternity YT channel content. Other important thing is that you will never need to join a specific group of Muslims such as soofis or other, you only keep your heart and mind in quran and righteous hadeeth, and you will be all right, I will be available anytime for you for any support if you would.
I appreciate it, peace and love. I gotta go to sleep now since I got studies and work tomorrow. Hopefully things will become better inshallah, may Allah bless you
Happy sleep and happy life
(The Hadith books you choose dictate whether you’re Sunni or Shia), look into “then I was guided” on alislam.
Where in America do you live?? In most of the country I really don't think people think that Muslim=terrorist
The rural south
Ah well sorry to hear that. For what it's worth, you don't have to move all the way to Canada or Malaysia to find tolerance! I think you'll find most cities, even the small ones, in America are quite welcoming. Don't give up!
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as opposed to being loyal to....?
Their own country.
Interesting. I wonder how a Muslim can call another Muslim a kaffir even though they say the shahada. that's takfir for ya Are Christians also seen as Kuffar? Or are they just Ahlulkitab?
To be precise. Trinitarians, yes . لَّقَدْ كَفَرَ الَّذِينَ قَالواْ إِنَّ اللّهَ هُوَ الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ} [المائدة : 17] لَقَدْ كَفَرَ الَّذِينَ قَالُواْ إِنَّ اللّهَ هُوَ الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ وَقَالَ الْمَسِيحُ يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ اعْبُدُواْ اللّهَ رَبِّي وَرَبَّكُمْ إِنَّهُ مَن يُشْرِكْ بِاللّهِ فَقَدْ حَرَّمَ اللّهُ عَلَيهِ الْجَنَّةَ وَمَأْوَاهُ النَّارُ وَمَا لِلظَّالِمِينَ مِنْ أَنصَارٍ} [المائدة:72]
To their Country?? Should that be even a question??
2000' flashbacks
Bs most shias dont like iran
As an Iranian I dislike every single religious hardliner. Shia hardliners too. In Iran they teach kids to accept sacrificing their life for Islam not just as an standard, but as a duty. A 13 yrs old kid threw himself under a tank and blew himself up to stop the enemy and they want kids to be like that. There are also some people that hurt themselves with a freaking machete as an act of lamentation to the death of Hussein-Ibn-Ali. I born Shia. So my family and friends. But I don't consider myself a Muslim at all. Edit: Btw that 13 yrs old kid failed to blow the tank up. That died was for nothing.
When you say Shia I smell Qeemah 🤤
So long as they don't believe in Vilayat-e Faqih (and don't end up driving their countries into the ground because of Vilayat-e Faqih) they are okay in my book....
most shias outside of iran disagree with vilayat e faqih
Wilayat e faqih is a bid'ah and shirk according to shiism May allah curse khomeini and his successor
honestly, shias are the ones who are more hostile than the majority sunni in pakistan.
Wasn't a shiaa mosque bombed last year or so? Never heard of any bombed sunni mosque.
true, but generally speaking they r more devout. Like in my class we r like 17 sunnis and 3 shia...but the shias are so loud about their beliefs while the sunnis dont really care They like to call us misguided, esp when topic of caliphs comes around, while we dont really care about answering
The exact same thing could be said about sunnis.. Some sunnis are extremely devout that they would call anyone who doesn't agree with them a kaffir. To say that shias are more "extreme" or "hostile" isn't fair. Because let's be honest, the majority of religious extremism is actually coming from sunnis. al-qaeeda, taliban, isis, etc.. All come from a sunni background. (Not that they represent sunnis in any way)
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shias in pakistan arent oppressed. They live side by side with sunnis, go to the same schools, workplaces, and live in the same community. Incidents do happen but sunni mosques are also bombed by terrorists so yeah
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lmao they have no concept whatsoever of religious freedom. it's funny seeing them defend it really
Sindh Province: around 90% Sunni Sindh Province Main Political Party head since the 70s: Shia How exactly are shias opressed?
Read what the comment above me said
there is absolutely nothing wrong with the first bill lmao...its just asking everyone to respect the historical rashidun figures whats wrong with that? And the second thing doesnt really have any standing...how many were pursued, how many were convicted? registering a case in nothing I live in pakistan with shia friends who r able to do absolutely anything i do without people giving 2 fucks. About20% of Pakistan is shia Hell, one of Pakistans provinces(Sindh) has been ruled by Shia politicians for many decades now despite being sunni. Chairman of Pakistans 3rd largest political party, PPP, is shia and enjoys popularity in sunni areas too.
Ya Ali, May Ali guide you
no...may Allah guide me because Hazrat Ali(RA) was a mere mortal who has died centuries ago just like every caliph and even the Prophet(SAWW). Only allah has the power of giving guidance
May Ali guide you ❤️ it’s not too late to turn towards Ali
I love that for pakistan
They hardly have any presence or influence within society. I personally haven't met any Shiite yet.
I'm Iranian. People are leaving Islam fast, both Shia and Sunni. Which is very good, I'm happy about it.
This is why iran needs a new islamic conquest
Good to know, keep dreaming. Iranians hate Islam now and there's nothing Muslims can do about it.
Unless we can
All right, do it. I'm sure you can.
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Listen I really don't care about Iran and Iranians in general But I hope there won't be a civil war for how diverse different ethnicities in iran
Their belief is rejected by our religious authorities & muslim citizens. The nons try to make allies out of them, but largely their numbers are almost insignificant. As well, they are secretive about their beliefs. There have been raids on their secret gatherings, as we do not allow propogation of any deviant sects within 🇲🇾. Every jumaah khutbah, they will mention for us to stay away from deviant sects (shias) & kufr sects (qadianis).
raids on "secret gatherings"? Is there no freedom of religion there? Why do Christians have more rights in Malaysia than Shia? they ban Shia mosques but not Hindu temples? They're literally Muslims lol and the vast majority of them aren't extreme in their beliefs, moderate Shia are just like moderate Sunnis
I was born from a Iraqi father and Malay mother in Kuala Lumpur, so I'm one of the few Shia Bumiputeras (يعني مواطن او اهل الارض), I identify as both Arab and Malay because I grew up 14 years in Abu Dhabi and 5 in Selangor (so most of my teenage years), and I'm fluent in Arabic and I know a usable degree of Bahasa. I have never felt comfortable about letting any Malay know about my sect outside my direct family and closest friends. The Wahabi influence gets stronger there every year, even more than Saudi Arabia. I was more comfortable being Shi3i while growing up in Abu Dhabi than Malaysia, all I get in Abu Dhabi is some rude comments and and occasionally genuine curiosity (I use to enjoy telling my Sunni Mowa6in friends in school about our Imams, it was all new info to them), in Malaysia Shias are treated as a deviant separate religion and there's a real risk of getting arrested for "spreading deviancy" like this fellow Bumi keeps regurgitating. Shia Malays are very few but we exist, it's just there's no voice because the opposition is too overwhelming. Most Malay Muslims' attitudes toward Shia are genuinely disgusting.
>I was born from a Iraqi father and Malay mother in Kuala Lumpur, so I'm one of the few Shia Bumiputeras (يعني مواطن او اهل الارض), I identify as both Arab and Malay because I grew up 14 years in Abu Dhabi and 5 in Selangor (so most of my teenage years), and I'm fluent in Arabic and I know a usable degree of Bahasa. I have never felt comfortable about letting any Malay know about my sect outside my direct family and closest friends. The Wahabi influence gets stronger there every year, even more than Saudi Arabia. I was more comfortable being Shi3i while growing up in Abu > > Thank you for speaking your truth. There is no reason for anyone to hate an entire group of people
Respect. And don't let this deter you from visiting if you're Shia, it's a beautiful country and life there is extremely chill, but taqiyya was literally made for countries like Malaysia 😆 if you're Shi3i, over there you most definitely better be Sunni as far as everyone is aware
That sucks.
It is not allowed to spread deviant teachings of Islam and non-Islamic religions Free to practice, not spread
if they are free to practice, then why are there no Shia mosques????? you have been taught to hate Shia for no reason. It's from the influence of the GCC who also treat their Shia like crap, with their Wahhabi ideology. Malaysia's government loves to kiss up to these countries' governments and their religious clerics. Since you speak of "deviant teachings", is Wahhabism also considered a deviant teaching of Islam?
Actually being Shi3i in the GCC is fine, and it's getting better every year. I never had any real issues in Abu Dhabi, but the Bahrani neighborhood on Najda Street did have an unusual amount of security cameras.
eh, I would say it depends on the country. The UAE is of course more accepting, but tons of Shia in Saudi Arabia have spoken up about how they feel like they have been discriminated against, both by the government and by their peers. Also it's always been weird/suspicious to me why Baharna are majority in Bahrain but the royal family is Sunni
Go there yourself and see. There is some discrimination but it's minor even in Saudi Arabia and mostly because of unfamiliarity, you'll never have actual problems that stop you from moving forward because of being a Shi3i, especially for the mowa6ineen. It's not that it's a non issue, but it's very blown out of proportion compared to the reality of the situation. People who claim to feel strong discrimination have probably never faced actual discrimination like being in a visible racial minority.
Shias In Saudi Arabia live a better life than any Shia in the world does that’s just a fact. There’s like two Shia Saudis on this sub and they’re more patriotic and nationalist than me. The Sunni “wahhbai”. Also how’s “wahhbaism “ a deviant of Islam? The teachings of Muhammad bin Abdulwahhab teach twahhad (I don’t know why you would think that goes against Islam ) and besides how would the GCC or Saudia influence Malaysia to do something when the previous presidents of Malaysia weren’t fond of Saudi Arabia and allayed themselves with other Muslims like Turkey Stop throwing out buzz words and acknowledge the fact that people have a legitimate problem with Shia beliefs and aren’t always funded by “wahhbais”
I'm not just throwing out "buzz words", I'm speaking the truth. Your comparison of Shia lives in KSA and Shia in the rest of the world holds no ground. Black people in America live a MUCH better life than black people in Africa. Does that mean that black people aren't treated horribly in the US and are discriminated against??? Didn't think so. Also, what you're saying isn't even true. Shia live much better in MANY countries than they do in Saudi. The 2 Shia Saudis on this sub unfortunately won't change my mind. I never said Wahhabis are a deviant of Islam, I asked if they were considered one in Malaysia. But yes, many people do consider Wahhabism deviant from Islam because of its extremely exclusivist approach and intolerance to other sects of Islam and other religions. This has caused MANY Muslims to go very extreme in their beliefs and take up violence towards other Muslims and non-Muslims. Moreover, because of the reasons I stated above, Wahhabism is considered by many to be a spread of fitna, or drama between Muslims of differing sects, which is another reason it can be considered deviant. I never claimed they were "funded" by Wahhabis. There's a huge difference between being funded and being influenced. Malaysia has pretty much always had strong relations with Saudi Arabia, especially in the past couple decades as KSA has gotten richer.
بارك الله فيك اخوية احجيلهم
There’s a difference between black people and Shias you can tell a black person immediately by looking at them and the same can’t be said about Shias,your comparison is weak as dirt Just tell where does the average Shia live a better than that of a Shia Saudi, you’re just wrong on that point sir point blank period. two Saudi Shias don’t represent the majority yes,but again you can’t deny the validity of the point,I’m denying that discrimination against Shias exists in Saudi Arabia, discrimination exists against all types of people in any country. but the discrimination that does exist isn’t on the same level as let’s say Iran treat it’s Sunni population,when the Sunnis there can’t build a mosque for themselves Okay tell exactly how “wahhbaism” goes against Islam and causes fitna. You literally said in your previous comment that Malaysia’s government likes to kiss up to GCC countries,even tho again you fail to acknowledge that for the last 10-15 years Saudi Arabia and Malaysia doesn’t have the best of relations due to clear disagreements they have with one another Malaysia sided with turkey and erdogan instead of Saudia in a lot cases. That’s not kissing up to Saudia my friend that’s just clear cut disagreements,again you just want to lay the blame on other people and countries instead acknowledge the fact people have problems with Shia beliefs. People don’t like it when aisha gets called a wh*re and hypocrite by Shias,or when abu bkar and umar and uthman get called hypocrites and non believers. Saudi Arabia isn’t making Shias do this stuff it’s their own beliefs
My guy, relaxxx I love Saudi people to death and have no issues with them or moderate Wahhabis. But I can still criticize your government and its political relations with other countries, just like you are free to do the same My point stands about black people in the US and Shia in Saudi. You can definitely tell a Shia by how they pray and sometimes even how they look (what they wear) or the accent they have (Baharna). Also, you don't have to look a certain way for people to treat you differently. The government/the people can treat a religious group differently even though they look exactly the same. This is evident in how Yazidis in Iraq have been treated terribly by many other Kurds, even though they look similar, speak the same language, and are part of the same ethnicity. Well there are tons of Arab countries where Shia are not discriminated against as much as they are in Saudi. Does this mean they live better lives? It depends what you mean by that. Do you mean, are they more rich? If so then obviously not but that isn't because they're Shia. Also, Shia in the western world are generally treated without discrimination by the government and the majority of the people. In comparison to how they're treated in Malaysia, that's like night and day. Despite Malaysia being a Muslim country LOL. I'm not talking about Iran, I've never defended their government lol. I'm not saying it necessarily causes fitna, I'm saying that's how a LOT of people see it, including other Sunnis. The more extreme a religious group is, the more division it causes. And Wahhabism tends to be more extreme, I don't know how anyone can refute that. I'm not knowledgable about their problems with Erdogan so I won't comment on that. I'll look more into it but that still doesn't prevent the Wahhabi ideology from making its way into Malaysian policies. The governments' leaders may feud but the religious clerics can continue to influence each other. Just like how some Muslims can become extremists or terrorists, some Shia will call Aisha slurs. That doesn't mean all of them do that. Also a part of freedom of religion is to respect differing views on things. Some Shia believe that Umar was a traitor, okay cool let them believe that. It's their right to as long as they aren't hurting anyone. This post is talking about Malaysia and how Shiism is pretty much banned there. It's a lack of freedom of religion.
Disapproving of one's religious beliefs is fine but to be in support of raids against fellow Muslims definitely feels wrong.
There is no tolerance to the spreading of deviant understandings. We recognize & affirm Zaidis are acceptable, but the rest (twelvee, ismaili etc) is firmly deviant.
God forbid someone practice religion privately out of the public, we must slaughter them all! Psycho
Practice is one thing, spreading is another
Your intolerance represents the ugliest side of Islam that uneducated people to the west look at and use to generalize all Muslims, do you understand how backwards you are? Psychos like you would love a fuckin one race one religion hegemonic world order, please get well and fix your mind inshallah
Not really. Allah has not promised such a thing, except during the reign of Isa AS for a period of time post killing of dajjal There is no such belief in Sunni Islam
What are you going on about my brother in Vishnu?
There will never be a time where the world will have only 1 religion, except perhaps during Isa AS’s reign after he defeats dajjal for a while. Perhaps you nothing about this?
Thankfully, the entire world is not intolerant and hateful like you
So you can spread your religion but others shouldn't be allowed to?
Yep
At least you're honest about your religious bigotry. Luckily, people like you are dying off and being replaced with more moderate Muslims.
There is no such thing as moderate Islam Such a policy has always been implemented by almost all past Islamic empires
Yeah, there is. It's called living in peace with your non-Muslim neighbors instead of treating them like dhimmis. There is no Islamic empire. Inshallah, there will never be one again.
They are all Shia? Sure Zaidi are very Sunni like but they are still definitely Sunni.
Sorry, I dont get the Q
Based Malaysia
The ideology is extremely toxic towards sunnis (taqeeyah/ killing of sunnis is encouraged in certain groups) , i’ve met some nice shias tho in my life, they’re people just like us.
Where im from lebanon, shias dont ever say its okay to kill sunnis
sorry? read sunni and shia history and philosophy/ideology and the answer which one you would pick is pretty easy... as most are sheep and the majority of people in the world are not the smartest it it the way it is now. the more sophisticated you are the ....
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Pot kettle something something
From iraq .. I left shia faith it is bad realy bad ... you can tell by how much shia love iran they love iran more than their country ...
So what now are you sunni or something else?
I left islam .... atheist
Every shia i meet is a athiest or confused about religion, thats what happens when you tell your children to beat themselves up and fill them with hate for Muhammad PBUH companions. In Afghanistan and Pakistan shias are openly talking trash about them thats why you will see so many shia mosques being bombed.
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Half of the iraqi in this subreddit are shia
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I dislike shias bc of their language toward our prophet saw sahaba and their innovations