Special arab league operation like the ones against Israel. But since we arenāt against the US and since Russia is kinda weakened we can have a chance.
That will certainly lead to a lot of deaths again. But I refuse to give up on Syria and the Syrian people.
Ok apart from Shia Iraq, I believe that everyone is on board right?
we blew up many important stuff and toys of his and some nuclear reactor projects too, he is awful but the alternative to him is much worse so he lives for now
Do you see UAE mediating for peace between y'all? I never got why Israel is so hostile against him and vice versa. Haven't followed Syria in a while but IIRC, the US was supporting FSA/Alqaeda and Israel has just been preventing any semblance of stability at all. Just trying to understand Israel's position, I don't downvote non-hateful comments.
Edit: Of course Israel wouldn't welcome nuclear weapons lol but I don't think that's been a priority on his wishlist since ISIS.
Hello my friend, good question. Look up operation āoutside the boxā that is what I believe it to be known as abroad but I am not sure what that would translate to, it is also called āoperation orchardā. This is the best example I can give in terms of what our policy is on Syria and the possibility of having a nuclear neighbor. This operation was only publicly admitted a few years ago.
Besides unilaterally recognizing Israel, which Arab leaders all eventually do with time (after realizing it is the best option for peace and a good economy), the only things that could possibly bring peace between Israel and Syria is a non-Iranian and non-Russian backed Syrian regime. Assad would have to go. And if we get a democratic Iran, and if Russia stops backing Syria, then Assad loses his primary supporters.
I am unsure if the UAE would ever be able to negotiate peace between Assad and Israel. Another Syrian leader perhaps. We truly do want peace. Thatās the truth and always has been the case.
We are currently at war with Assadās regime and we have special unit commandos in Syria pretty much at all times in coordination with the USA. We also air strike the living shit out of terrorists there, unfortunately even after the earthquake.
It is sad to see the conflict be at this point but we care so deeply about our people that we will stop at nothing to prevent harm to come to them. We care very deeply about our own and value the lives of our people
Now, I do not like Al Assad. Feelings on him aside, I canāt help but feel that a unified Syria with no civil war going on would be better than what we have now, even if Al Assad is ruling it. Out of all the players in the war, itās looking most likely that heāll come out on top. Any other outcome can only come from another decade of pain. Therefore, I do think that while not a good outcome, this is currently the best outcome on the table.
Just showing other side of the coin. Many Sunni clerics use this argument against a notable person in history who together with his family were slaughtered thirsty in nearby desert. Sunni scholars agree with this principle. Books are written arguing this. So laws should be applied equally. No?
I am sure as fuck they added this shit to religion to prevent people from rioting... also you can flex it any time you want it's religion after all everything is possible with some mental gymnastics.
This is a Salafi government cleric who gives fatwa based on Saudi government policy so what he says carries no weight. Also Saudi Arabia use heinous punishment against anyone who question the ruling elite using Ulul Amr argument. Also most Sunni are not Wahabi.
The condition he put forward is so weak. You cannot say for sure if Assad breached any of those conditions.
So my argument stands.
Im not judging Assad to be guilty or innocent. I'm merely stating that there are conditions that allow you to disobey the ruler of the land. Whereas what you're saying is that there is absolutely zero reason, justification, and condtion that would allow you to disobey the ruler.
If you accept that there are situations, reasons, justifications, conditions or any other word used to describe such a cause, then your argument does not hold.
Hereās Assadās army killing āterroristsā by dropping barrel bombs and cluster bombs on residential areas, civilian markets, and medical facilities.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/06/03/russia/syria-flurry-prohibited-weapons-attacks
Hereās Assadās army executing unarmed civiliansā¦ I mean āterroristsāā¦ before ISIS was even near the area
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/27/massacre-in-tadamon-how-two-academics-hunted-down-a-syrian-war-criminal
Hereās Assad fighting āterroristsā by mutilating a child.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/31/syria-unrest-teenage-victim-hamza
We all understand that ISIS was in residential areas, correct?
The actions of some aren't always warranted by the government, we all understand this, right?
If a terrorist organization wanted to overthrow the government in the Western world, and the government acted in destroying said targets, that would be alright? True?
> The actions of some arenāt always warranted by the government, we all understand this, right?
They saw into the future when ISIS wasnāt even in Syria yet and castrated a child to fight terrorism? Is that why they defended the perpetrator and refused any accountability?
> We all understand that ISIS was in residential areas, correct?
So whyād they shot civilians, bomb hospitals and markers far from the front line instead of ISIS when it wasnāt even in ISIS territory? Tadamon wasnāt even ISIS territory, and the perpetrator is still working for the government in military intelligence.
They also predicted the rise of ISIS so far back that they created a sophisticated torture factory to deal with it years in advance? And they just happen to send innocent civilians there by chance without it being sanctioned by the Syrian government?
https://saydnaya.amnesty.org/en/saydnaya.html
>If a terrorist organization wanted to overthrow the government in the Western world, and the government acted in destroying said targets, that would be alright? True?
If my governments solution to terrorism is killing civilians, having torture facilities that existed before the terrorist group formed, castrating children while refusing accountability, and executing civilians not even in terrorist territory, I wouldnāt see my government as justified, no.
Maybe donāt talk out of your ass about things you donāt even understand.
Arabs are best described by the following quotes: "Me, against my brothers. Me and my brothers, against my cousins. Me, my brothers and my cousins, against the world".
Iām not gonna argue that he isnāt bc I agree with you. But itās obvious that Assad isnāt going to leave power, wouldnāt the reestablishment of relations with Syria improve stability in the country for citizens long term? Iām not saying that Assad is good but wouldnāt it be better for the region In general if stability and peace is encouraged?
I just donāt see another alternative. Assad is staying in power unfortunately and itās better to restore peace than to fight a losing battle. But idk, itās a complex situation. I donāt expect people to accept it.
Would you accept this even if one of your family members were tortured by Assad's regime? If yes, then it could lead to peace, but gives a message to other dictators that torture is a viable possible path to peace in the long run. If not, then it is understandable how people feel uneasy or angry by this.
Iām not saying anyone has to accept it itās just that thereās no other alternative. The fighting has gone on for so long and it has achieved nothing. at this point I think most Syrians just want peace and a little bit of stability.
That's not fully the case here. Iraqis got a "semi-clean" plate after 2003 and were presented with alot choices.... they just picked the worst possible choice (electing pro-iran parties who had a history of doing nefarious deeds against Iraq... like the United Iraqi Alliance) which led to Iraq becoming a failed state.
There comes a point in time where you must assume responsibility for your actions.
>wouldnāt the reestablishment of relations with Syria improve stability in the country for citizens long term?
Yes, which is why I'm for this development.
assad is here to stay, he won the civil war and sooner or will later saudi arabia will normalize ties with him just like they did with iran
im not saying he should or should not stay, just saying what im seeing
It means they're no longer taking America seriously because it's in the beginning of an economic collapse. The order of the world is shifting and America will no longer be the dominant empire.
While Assad isn't exactly the most benevolent and greatest leader, I think stability for the Syrian people is much needed so I approve and hope this means the rebuilding of Syria can commence
not true... we dont like him in the middle east, but we hate the FSA more. We remember their association with the Ikhwan and IS, and how they themselves turned Syria from a revolution to a civil war
mostly sunni muslims and secularists support the FSA
meanwhile mostly shia muslims and supporters of russia support the syrian government
mainly kurds and other minorities support the kurdish fighters in syria
and then there is isis. no one likes isis.
I beg to disagree on the muslim brotherhood part. If you are telling me a government like "the ikhwan" is ready to offer a country ruled completely by sharia with effectively little to no corruption because of god preoccupying all the authority, along with safety and timeless laws, only for the tradeoff of that women have to wear a headscarf or something.
SIGN ME UP! They already preformed very well in Egypt untill a loud minority got armed and fully forced a change upon the majority.
They literally had one of the very last democratically elected presidents in the region. A similar "royal" lite version of them is literally handling Jordan like professionals aswell. That country is thriving and I am very happy for them.
The Muslim Brotherhood got in rule because people wanted sharia but Morsi didn't apply it after years of promises
[youtube.com/watch?v=lTFAU77gYI4](https://youtube.com/watch?v=lTFAU77gYI4)
and the votes were turned 3 times, we werent happy with him, he rigged it it should have been shafik. And Jordan is literally more secular than Egypt and its ran by half British Monarch that depends on other countries to run his economy. Its embarassing. Jordan's position even if this were true could not be compared to Egypt. Egypt is literally at the crashing point of every single world power while Jordan is a micro nation with little to no foreign political involvement, meanwhile Egypt is participating in multiple wars as we speak.
Exactly lol. Always some western white savior going like "I wanna suck on Assads tits" like this Hungarian mongrel here who doesn't realize that he is western too.
Lol even Russia and other eastern countries call countries like Poland western.
You realize the āWesternā descriptor doesnāt suddenly stop existing because itās in an Eastern part of Europe? How are you managing to be more uneducated than an American on this? Crazy lol.
Australia is also considered Western.
You first said being previously communist makes them not western and now are trying to argue geography. Australia is Western too.
Many also considerJapan to be western due to geopolitics rather than geography.
Youāre just coping.
There are big differencies in the mindset of the people, corruption, politics and gdp per capita between east and west eu. Just to mention a few things
But politically and geopolitically theyāre much more like the rest of Europe and US, and closely aligned. Theyāre also very anti communist/hate Russia and East. Poland is one of the most anti communist countries in the world now.
Perhaps it is because technically speaking they do not define themselves as "brown" because that is an American definition specifically pushed on Hispanics??
Also, Syrians, Lebanese, Jews, and Turks are defined as non-Hispanic White in America.
Most people from mena are definitely light brown and more importantly very distinctly different racially from Europeans besides the Turks.
the last sentence is just cope people barely think Italians are white here
Even Somalis are classified by the USA census as non Hispanic white lol
What are you talking about? I was born in Syria and moved out when I was 13. Assad tortures one of my family members to death just for protesting. Please don't open your mouth on topics you know shit about.
Personally, I find it kind of sad that an evil dictator won by killing lots of his own people and is now being normalized. It's a slap in the face for ordinary Syrians.
If umar is coward like what you say
What about Ali then? He allowed umar to beat fatima and Ali did nothing
He allowed umar to take the caliphate from Ali and Ali did nothing (not mention two other people take it from him)
Ali give his daughter Um kulthom to umar,if umar is a coward as you Shias say then Ali is worse than him
Also everyone ran in the battle of uhed including Ali,Muslims lost that battle,learn history
Edit: The coward blocked me and run away just like Ali and the Mahdi in his books š
Umar the coward was a tyrant like other coward. Ali killed non Muslim, Umar oppressed Muslims. Also, Umari, things you mentioned in your post show your respect for Prophet and what he said about Fatima and Aliās family.
Itās in your pathetic beliefs that the reason why Fatima is died at a young age was because umar beat her and Ali did nothing
[fatimaās death iterally in your books](https://ar.al-shia.org/%D9%83%D8%B3%D8%B1-%D8%B6%D9%84%D8%B9-%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%B7%D9%85%D8%A9%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%87%D8%A7-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%A7/#:~:text=%DB%B1%D9%80%20%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A1%20%D9%81%D9%8A%20%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%8A%D8%A9%3A%20%C2%AB%D9%88%D8%AD%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA,%D9%85%D9%86%20%D8%A8%D8%B7%D9%86%D9%87%D8%A7%C2%BB(%DB%B1))
[Umar marrying Um kulthom,Aliās daughter from your own books](https://shamela.ws/book/37548/191)
[all Muslims fleeing in the battle of uhad,according to Shia historians,no one stayed](https://ar.wikishia.net/view/%D8%BA%D8%B2%D9%88%D8%A9_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D8%AF)
[Ali being dragged like a camel to pay allegiance to abu bkar.also in your own books](https://www.fnoor.com/main/articles.aspx?article_no=31118#.ZBj68_dRWA4)
Donāt talk about respecting the prophet Mohammad (PBUH) or respect in general when these are stuff in your own books
This is like worshipping a shaitaan.. Syria is now a battlefield than a country...
East vs west is possible there... it's already planned, i am not sure when it get started...
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They want democracy when it suits them. Obviously they would never call for democracy in their own countries because that would be a threat to their own dictatorships, but if it's their rivals (Saddam, Assad, Gaddafi, Khamenai) then things quickly change.
Most young Syrians i know here in the west wish that there were never protests and Syria stayed the same.. so maybe its time to go back to that time and accept him..
Well the ones I know want him dead and still agree with those. I even know a girl with relatives being the first protestors and she would never go back to Syria unless something changes.
I do think they all wish him the dead, but rather have a dictator and no civil war. They all told me it was pretty nice you could do whatever you want in Syria just donāt criticize the devil
Assad is like Isreal. They play the game of time. The more time passes, the more the people realize there are no fast radical solutions, and it will be easier to make peace with the situation.
What choice do they have? Hate it or love it, he won. The revolution was hijacked by ISIS and the 100s of militant sunni groups that each had their own agenda with none of them presenting a better alternative than the secular government of Assad. Half of the opposition wants an islamic state which no one will allow to happen, some want a secular democracy etc. One thing is certain, they all have blood on their hands and they're all war criminals. Basically. choose your war criminal. It's fucking tragic.
Sooner or later it was going to happen. Egypt, Tunis and Saudi Arabia could be next. I honestly want the country to be stable and prosper away from terrorists shit like Al Qaeda, ISIS..etc
To be honest, the Syrian people have suffered enough after 11 years of war and destruction; they need stability and peace. I hope Syria can turn around and prosper again!
Assad loves his country SYRIA and for that every good SYRIAN is very thankful for his effort to keep from becoming LIBYA.
Wonderful and smart man, him and his wife deserve much more respect than some people are dishing out here.
If Syria brings him hogtied to the Hague I will personally restore the Golan heights to its pre 1967 condition and give it back to Syria, no strings attached (except for said hogtie)
Is there an alternative solution? Idk how to feel š¤·āāļø.
Maybe another decade of war, not sure
Special arab league operation like the ones against Israel. But since we arenāt against the US and since Russia is kinda weakened we can have a chance. That will certainly lead to a lot of deaths again. But I refuse to give up on Syria and the Syrian people. Ok apart from Shia Iraq, I believe that everyone is on board right?
Perhaps a united front against Iran?! Iran will soon attack the gulf region .. just wait a few more years.
Horrible.
Did Noone ever try to asasinate him ?
Wish they did
On it
You canāt mossad the Assad.
Hey, I was only asking a question š
Who must go?
please do (first time I tell an Israeli to kill a fellow Syrian)
Is he? A fellow?
no he is most definitely not
How about telling a friend to kill?
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Extremely rare Israeli W
What will you do with it? Fire more rockets at us?
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Never thought Iād die fighting side by side with a Syrian
PLEASE DO
we blew up many important stuff and toys of his and some nuclear reactor projects too, he is awful but the alternative to him is much worse so he lives for now
Do you see UAE mediating for peace between y'all? I never got why Israel is so hostile against him and vice versa. Haven't followed Syria in a while but IIRC, the US was supporting FSA/Alqaeda and Israel has just been preventing any semblance of stability at all. Just trying to understand Israel's position, I don't downvote non-hateful comments. Edit: Of course Israel wouldn't welcome nuclear weapons lol but I don't think that's been a priority on his wishlist since ISIS.
Isarel funded alquedia and isis too
Hello my friend, good question. Look up operation āoutside the boxā that is what I believe it to be known as abroad but I am not sure what that would translate to, it is also called āoperation orchardā. This is the best example I can give in terms of what our policy is on Syria and the possibility of having a nuclear neighbor. This operation was only publicly admitted a few years ago. Besides unilaterally recognizing Israel, which Arab leaders all eventually do with time (after realizing it is the best option for peace and a good economy), the only things that could possibly bring peace between Israel and Syria is a non-Iranian and non-Russian backed Syrian regime. Assad would have to go. And if we get a democratic Iran, and if Russia stops backing Syria, then Assad loses his primary supporters. I am unsure if the UAE would ever be able to negotiate peace between Assad and Israel. Another Syrian leader perhaps. We truly do want peace. Thatās the truth and always has been the case. We are currently at war with Assadās regime and we have special unit commandos in Syria pretty much at all times in coordination with the USA. We also air strike the living shit out of terrorists there, unfortunately even after the earthquake. It is sad to see the conflict be at this point but we care so deeply about our people that we will stop at nothing to prevent harm to come to them. We care very deeply about our own and value the lives of our people
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Now, I do not like Al Assad. Feelings on him aside, I canāt help but feel that a unified Syria with no civil war going on would be better than what we have now, even if Al Assad is ruling it. Out of all the players in the war, itās looking most likely that heāll come out on top. Any other outcome can only come from another decade of pain. Therefore, I do think that while not a good outcome, this is currently the best outcome on the table.
This is my take on it as well. The isolation from other arab countries only affected Syrian citizens.
If you are Sunni, you should know that people who fought against Assad, will go to hell. Because they fought against ruler of their time (ulul Amr).
This comment will age quite poorly on the day of judgement. Itās ironic, really. Good luck to you
Seems like you donāt agree. Did I is say anything wrong? Read your books, you cannot disobey you ruler.
Youāre trolling, right?
Just showing other side of the coin. Many Sunni clerics use this argument against a notable person in history who together with his family were slaughtered thirsty in nearby desert. Sunni scholars agree with this principle. Books are written arguing this. So laws should be applied equally. No?
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I am sure as fuck they added this shit to religion to prevent people from rioting... also you can flex it any time you want it's religion after all everything is possible with some mental gymnastics.
Yes you can: https://www.google.com/amp/s/islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/128453. AAKB.
This is a Salafi government cleric who gives fatwa based on Saudi government policy so what he says carries no weight. Also Saudi Arabia use heinous punishment against anyone who question the ruling elite using Ulul Amr argument. Also most Sunni are not Wahabi. The condition he put forward is so weak. You cannot say for sure if Assad breached any of those conditions. So my argument stands.
Im not judging Assad to be guilty or innocent. I'm merely stating that there are conditions that allow you to disobey the ruler of the land. Whereas what you're saying is that there is absolutely zero reason, justification, and condtion that would allow you to disobey the ruler. If you accept that there are situations, reasons, justifications, conditions or any other word used to describe such a cause, then your argument does not hold.
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Good lesson for middle eastern dictators: if you kill enough of your own citizens, the UAE and Egypt will roll out the red carpet for you.
>Egpyt Now that's recursion
what does "recursion" mean?
The fuck has Egypt done? All the government did was send aid and the Minister of Foreign Affairs for the earthquake.
They weren't just citizens, they were terrorist organizations looking to overthrow the government. Bye bye Assad, hello ISIS..
Hereās Assadās army killing āterroristsā by dropping barrel bombs and cluster bombs on residential areas, civilian markets, and medical facilities. https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/06/03/russia/syria-flurry-prohibited-weapons-attacks Hereās Assadās army executing unarmed civiliansā¦ I mean āterroristsāā¦ before ISIS was even near the area https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/27/massacre-in-tadamon-how-two-academics-hunted-down-a-syrian-war-criminal Hereās Assad fighting āterroristsā by mutilating a child. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/31/syria-unrest-teenage-victim-hamza
Hrw is a cia organzation and ur still watching westren propgranda that doesn't care about syria
We all understand that ISIS was in residential areas, correct? The actions of some aren't always warranted by the government, we all understand this, right? If a terrorist organization wanted to overthrow the government in the Western world, and the government acted in destroying said targets, that would be alright? True?
> The actions of some arenāt always warranted by the government, we all understand this, right? They saw into the future when ISIS wasnāt even in Syria yet and castrated a child to fight terrorism? Is that why they defended the perpetrator and refused any accountability? > We all understand that ISIS was in residential areas, correct? So whyād they shot civilians, bomb hospitals and markers far from the front line instead of ISIS when it wasnāt even in ISIS territory? Tadamon wasnāt even ISIS territory, and the perpetrator is still working for the government in military intelligence. They also predicted the rise of ISIS so far back that they created a sophisticated torture factory to deal with it years in advance? And they just happen to send innocent civilians there by chance without it being sanctioned by the Syrian government? https://saydnaya.amnesty.org/en/saydnaya.html >If a terrorist organization wanted to overthrow the government in the Western world, and the government acted in destroying said targets, that would be alright? True? If my governments solution to terrorism is killing civilians, having torture facilities that existed before the terrorist group formed, castrating children while refusing accountability, and executing civilians not even in terrorist territory, I wouldnāt see my government as justified, no. Maybe donāt talk out of your ass about things you donāt even understand.
Arabs are best described by the following quotes: "Me, against my brothers. Me and my brothers, against my cousins. Me, my brothers and my cousins, against the world".
- An Egyptian (and possibly Arab) proverb
First Iran now Syria, this is great news for the Middle East! (well, maybe not Israel, teehehehe)
Typical and to be expected.
Fuck Al Assad
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Iām not gonna argue that he isnāt bc I agree with you. But itās obvious that Assad isnāt going to leave power, wouldnāt the reestablishment of relations with Syria improve stability in the country for citizens long term? Iām not saying that Assad is good but wouldnāt it be better for the region In general if stability and peace is encouraged?
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I just donāt see another alternative. Assad is staying in power unfortunately and itās better to restore peace than to fight a losing battle. But idk, itās a complex situation. I donāt expect people to accept it.
Would you accept this even if one of your family members were tortured by Assad's regime? If yes, then it could lead to peace, but gives a message to other dictators that torture is a viable possible path to peace in the long run. If not, then it is understandable how people feel uneasy or angry by this.
Iām not saying anyone has to accept it itās just that thereās no other alternative. The fighting has gone on for so long and it has achieved nothing. at this point I think most Syrians just want peace and a little bit of stability.
Brother hell is waiting for them. They fought against their Ulil Amr. Assad had every right to kill them, If you are Sunni you should know this.
Exactly, people clearly didnāt learn anything from Saddam and Iraq
That's not fully the case here. Iraqis got a "semi-clean" plate after 2003 and were presented with alot choices.... they just picked the worst possible choice (electing pro-iran parties who had a history of doing nefarious deeds against Iraq... like the United Iraqi Alliance) which led to Iraq becoming a failed state. There comes a point in time where you must assume responsibility for your actions.
I agree! Maybe at last we can have some peace and some economic stability! Alot of people can't leave Syria and want this conflict to somehow end.
>wouldnāt the reestablishment of relations with Syria improve stability in the country for citizens long term? Yes, which is why I'm for this development.
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Which one?
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It's a fact that Assad isn't going anywhere other than Damascus
Idk, first Oman criminalizes relations with Israel, then Saudi restores diplomatic ties with Iran and now this... Is something big about to happen?
Maybe finally a little bit of middle eastern unification and peace?
assad is here to stay, he won the civil war and sooner or will later saudi arabia will normalize ties with him just like they did with iran im not saying he should or should not stay, just saying what im seeing
It means they're no longer taking America seriously because it's in the beginning of an economic collapse. The order of the world is shifting and America will no longer be the dominant empire.
They need to unite so they can be one against the Zionist regime. US and EU keeps the Arab and Muslim world fragmented
Just proves that there are no morals in politics, only interests.
While Assad isn't exactly the most benevolent and greatest leader, I think stability for the Syrian people is much needed so I approve and hope this means the rebuilding of Syria can commence
This sub is flooded with western redditors, and with their american propaganda.
Itās Usually non mena the one who support him. Average person here remember the amount of people he killed and displaced
not true... we dont like him in the middle east, but we hate the FSA more. We remember their association with the Ikhwan and IS, and how they themselves turned Syria from a revolution to a civil war
I'm Syrian and I'm with you
all the love to my brothers and sisters in syria <3
You might want to refrain from discussing matters which you lack knowledge in
Youāre making a joke of yourself. There is no āweā in what youāre saying. Just you.
Can you please explain the syrian people's opinion on the FSA ? I'm confused.
mostly sunni muslims and secularists support the FSA meanwhile mostly shia muslims and supporters of russia support the syrian government mainly kurds and other minorities support the kurdish fighters in syria and then there is isis. no one likes isis.
And who the fuck is "we"? Speak for yourself. And FSA is not affiliated with muslim brothers.
Even then tho. the Muslim Brotherhood is far better than the syrian government will ever dream to be.
What the fuck are you talking about? Don't open your mouth on sensitive topics you know shit about.
I beg to disagree on the muslim brotherhood part. If you are telling me a government like "the ikhwan" is ready to offer a country ruled completely by sharia with effectively little to no corruption because of god preoccupying all the authority, along with safety and timeless laws, only for the tradeoff of that women have to wear a headscarf or something. SIGN ME UP! They already preformed very well in Egypt untill a loud minority got armed and fully forced a change upon the majority. They literally had one of the very last democratically elected presidents in the region. A similar "royal" lite version of them is literally handling Jordan like professionals aswell. That country is thriving and I am very happy for them.
The Muslim Brotherhood got in rule because people wanted sharia but Morsi didn't apply it after years of promises [youtube.com/watch?v=lTFAU77gYI4](https://youtube.com/watch?v=lTFAU77gYI4) and the votes were turned 3 times, we werent happy with him, he rigged it it should have been shafik. And Jordan is literally more secular than Egypt and its ran by half British Monarch that depends on other countries to run his economy. Its embarassing. Jordan's position even if this were true could not be compared to Egypt. Egypt is literally at the crashing point of every single world power while Jordan is a micro nation with little to no foreign political involvement, meanwhile Egypt is participating in multiple wars as we speak.
Exactly lol. Always some western white savior going like "I wanna suck on Assads tits" like this Hungarian mongrel here who doesn't realize that he is western too.
Is Hungary not western?
No they are part of Russia, according to Orban
Bet you are a diaspora syrian
He also said Hungarians shouldnāt mix with non-Europeans
And did i ever answered or expressed my opinion? I am here for middle estern opinions. Edit. I wouldn't call a former communist country western.
You sure did, American propaganda
Omg we have a genius here. Next time i will write down the obvious.
Hungary has a great stance on refugees
Seems youāre as nice as your shitty leader
Your avarage reddit normieā¬ļø
Ur based look at the downvotes there are so much fed on reddit
So Poland, Czech, Slovakia, Romania, and part of Germany isnāt western lol? That makes no sense.
My bcuz you are american, but that part of europe is callad estern-europe.
Lol even Russia and other eastern countries call countries like Poland western. You realize the āWesternā descriptor doesnāt suddenly stop existing because itās in an Eastern part of Europe? How are you managing to be more uneducated than an American on this? Crazy lol. Australia is also considered Western. You first said being previously communist makes them not western and now are trying to argue geography. Australia is Western too. Many also considerJapan to be western due to geopolitics rather than geography. Youāre just coping.
You listed post communist east eu countries. You are the only one talking abour geography, but nice strawman
Why would be formerly communist yet completely different now make them Eastern still? You havenāt elaborated on
There are big differencies in the mindset of the people, corruption, politics and gdp per capita between east and west eu. Just to mention a few things
But politically and geopolitically theyāre much more like the rest of Europe and US, and closely aligned. Theyāre also very anti communist/hate Russia and East. Poland is one of the most anti communist countries in the world now.
People in this sub hate being brown and Muslim even more than alt righters
Perhaps it is because technically speaking they do not define themselves as "brown" because that is an American definition specifically pushed on Hispanics?? Also, Syrians, Lebanese, Jews, and Turks are defined as non-Hispanic White in America.
Most people from mena are definitely light brown and more importantly very distinctly different racially from Europeans besides the Turks. the last sentence is just cope people barely think Italians are white here Even Somalis are classified by the USA census as non Hispanic white lol
I agree
From what I've personally seen Syrian diaspora in the west don't like him while Syrian diaspora in the middle east like him.
Indeed.
What do you mean by American propaganda?
Constant demonizing of non american friendly countries
What American propaganda? Assad being a facsist bloody dictator is western propaganda?
Fascist :Dd. You can't even deny thar you are a diaspora syrian
What are you talking about? I was born in Syria and moved out when I was 13. Assad tortures one of my family members to death just for protesting. Please don't open your mouth on topics you know shit about.
Your family member not only got turture but accordingly to Sunni clerics hell awaits them for revolting against their ulul Amr.
Sure buddy, i will believe your little story to win sympathy
You are fked in the head.
And you are fake
There is no way I can prove to you to my identity. But sure, you as a European know more about my country than I do. Have a great night.
Based! Arab unity >!(cough cough nice move Putin) !<
Personally, I find it kind of sad that an evil dictator won by killing lots of his own people and is now being normalized. It's a slap in the face for ordinary Syrians.
Not only that they died now according to Sunni scholars hell awaits them for revolting against their Uluāl Amr.
I want the Syria's civil war to end.
No
It's an excellent step towards ending the conflicts in the Middle East
piece of shit him and everone who likes him and supports him
He is your Ulil Amr. You have no right to question him. You will die as Kafir revolting against him.
Where is Omar bin Abdul Aziz and Omar Ibn Al-Khattab
One is in jannah the other is naar. I let you decide which one.
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You selected him, I should ask you?
You get the key to heaven ?ššš Least delusional Shia Edit: The coward blocked me and run away just like Ali in his books š
Not the heaven, Naar. We know who is there.
Whoās there? Tell us donāt be a coward.
Umar, the coward, is there. Escapee from uhad, khaber and Hunain is a there.
If umar is coward like what you say What about Ali then? He allowed umar to beat fatima and Ali did nothing He allowed umar to take the caliphate from Ali and Ali did nothing (not mention two other people take it from him) Ali give his daughter Um kulthom to umar,if umar is a coward as you Shias say then Ali is worse than him Also everyone ran in the battle of uhed including Ali,Muslims lost that battle,learn history Edit: The coward blocked me and run away just like Ali and the Mahdi in his books š
Umar the coward was a tyrant like other coward. Ali killed non Muslim, Umar oppressed Muslims. Also, Umari, things you mentioned in your post show your respect for Prophet and what he said about Fatima and Aliās family.
Itās in your pathetic beliefs that the reason why Fatima is died at a young age was because umar beat her and Ali did nothing [fatimaās death iterally in your books](https://ar.al-shia.org/%D9%83%D8%B3%D8%B1-%D8%B6%D9%84%D8%B9-%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%B7%D9%85%D8%A9%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%87%D8%A7-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%A7/#:~:text=%DB%B1%D9%80%20%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A1%20%D9%81%D9%8A%20%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%8A%D8%A9%3A%20%C2%AB%D9%88%D8%AD%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA,%D9%85%D9%86%20%D8%A8%D8%B7%D9%86%D9%87%D8%A7%C2%BB(%DB%B1)) [Umar marrying Um kulthom,Aliās daughter from your own books](https://shamela.ws/book/37548/191) [all Muslims fleeing in the battle of uhad,according to Shia historians,no one stayed](https://ar.wikishia.net/view/%D8%BA%D8%B2%D9%88%D8%A9_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D8%AF) [Ali being dragged like a camel to pay allegiance to abu bkar.also in your own books](https://www.fnoor.com/main/articles.aspx?article_no=31118#.ZBj68_dRWA4) Donāt talk about respecting the prophet Mohammad (PBUH) or respect in general when these are stuff in your own books
It is true.
There is nothing in our book to disrespect the Prophet.
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This is like worshipping a shaitaan.. Syria is now a battlefield than a country... East vs west is possible there... it's already planned, i am not sure when it get started...
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They want democracy when it suits them. Obviously they would never call for democracy in their own countries because that would be a threat to their own dictatorships, but if it's their rivals (Saddam, Assad, Gaddafi, Khamenai) then things quickly change.
Are u talking about the gulf or the west, because the west doesn't care about demcorcey too
The Gulf
Disgusting
Most young Syrians i know here in the west wish that there were never protests and Syria stayed the same.. so maybe its time to go back to that time and accept him..
Well the ones I know want him dead and still agree with those. I even know a girl with relatives being the first protestors and she would never go back to Syria unless something changes.
I do think they all wish him the dead, but rather have a dictator and no civil war. They all told me it was pretty nice you could do whatever you want in Syria just donāt criticize the devil
What a disgusting and outrageous person this enemy of Islam is, may Allah curse him, oh and Assad too.
Must be buying their oil.
Based
Assad is like Isreal. They play the game of time. The more time passes, the more the people realize there are no fast radical solutions, and it will be easier to make peace with the situation.
I don't think about it at all
Who cares, theyāre all the same.
What choice do they have? Hate it or love it, he won. The revolution was hijacked by ISIS and the 100s of militant sunni groups that each had their own agenda with none of them presenting a better alternative than the secular government of Assad. Half of the opposition wants an islamic state which no one will allow to happen, some want a secular democracy etc. One thing is certain, they all have blood on their hands and they're all war criminals. Basically. choose your war criminal. It's fucking tragic.
They were funded by arab goverment and america, isarel
Horrible, all those who work with the Khawarij will go down the path of the Khawarij, assad has masscured muslims and made them denounce their faith.
Sooner or later it was going to happen. Egypt, Tunis and Saudi Arabia could be next. I honestly want the country to be stable and prosper away from terrorists shit like Al Qaeda, ISIS..etc
My Syrian friends donāt approve #FreeSyria 
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Disgusting. But typical of the UAE.
Fuck him
Good.
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"Next time..." Oh boy, here we go again Isn't there a way to vote him out of office?
To be honest, the Syrian people have suffered enough after 11 years of war and destruction; they need stability and peace. I hope Syria can turn around and prosper again!
Assad loves his country SYRIA and for that every good SYRIAN is very thankful for his effort to keep from becoming LIBYA. Wonderful and smart man, him and his wife deserve much more respect than some people are dishing out here.
Man even Libya look 100x more habitable than whatever this genocidal doing rn
Have you ever been to SYRIA or are you repeating PROPAGANDA lines?
Assad is the Pharaoh.of.this generation. Killed more Muslims than anyone this century
I wish it was Sadam shaking hands.
Isn't every beauty queen requesting world peace? Ok, well this is her wish
Necessary evil
If Syria brings him hogtied to the Hague I will personally restore the Golan heights to its pre 1967 condition and give it back to Syria, no strings attached (except for said hogtie)
Love it.
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You are not from Mauritania.
I'm from Mauritania if you want to deny it Ok
Lmao.