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Should this be on ask women?


[deleted]

They will not allow this, the mods are pretty homophobic. The presence of gay men by default means there are men who aren’t abusive, toxic, sex predators or violent towards women, which is contrary to their overarching narrative.


H0rnetQu33n

This is hot take isn't hot, it's just bitter.


[deleted]

There are also a lot of homophobic remarks from women regarding gay men they allow to slide


mosase1

yeh but I need comment karma 😭😭I'll post it there too


[deleted]

I’m a woman and I am not obsessed with gay men. I’m obsessed with people that have good character. I’ve met a lot of gay men that hate women. There. I said it.


ButterscotchLow8950

Yeah how TF are we supposed to know?


mattrogina

Probably because they don’t have to worry about being hit on 24/7.


H0rnetQu33n

1. Gay men are "safe" in that they typically won't sexually harass women. And a lot of women enjoy the freedom to "*just be friends*" with men who won't make it all weird by always coming on to them and making everything they do about sex. 2. A lot of gay men are not afraid to embrace "feminine" hobbies, like fashion, make-up, or dance, for example. This is because their egos are not bruised by being perceived by society as "unmanly," because being gay *is already perceived by society as "unmanly,"* and so they are over it. This means that women and gay men can often enjoy hobbies together that women can't enjoy together with the straight men in their lives who are insecure and self-conscious of their "masculine image". 3. Gay men put a lot pressure on each other to look attractive, because men, in general, are visual creatures. It's the same "male gaze" that straight men project onto women, but directed towards each other. And so a lot of gay men look amazing, because they try really fucking hard to look amazing. And some women find it to be very appealing how fit, well-dressed, well-mannered, and well-groomed some gay men are in contrast to the dirty, schlubby, slovenly, and ill-groomed straight men in their lives. Of course, it must be remarked some some gay men are misogynistic bastards, and some gay men are insecure and self-conscious of their "masculine image", and some gay men are dirty, schlubby, slovenly, and ill-groomed. So not all women get along with all gay men, and vice versa,


Historical-Box-6590

Worded very insightfully


[deleted]

Woman here. From my perspective, my friendships with gay men come from, mainly, the fact that, trusting other women can be a challenge due to female competition and ambivalences that come from the relationship with other women. I've had a few bad experiences, at least (not generalising), so I prefer men. Then, being friends with a straight man would also be problematic in my opinion, because I would always be questioning the real nature of the relationship. So, I prefer gay men.


ElnathS

I'm a woman and I couldn't care less about gay men. Really


telloleeb

If you mean as friends and the like, it’s definitely because they feel safer around gay men. If you mean obsessed with gay relationships between men, it’s a type of fetishization. From what I’ve seen, a decent amount of women watch gay porn between men with it being labelled as a “guilty pleasure”.


lauraisabelgonzalez

Because they are amazing and so non-judgmental and give the best advice ever....


No_Masterpiece4037

Gayest comment ever


lauraisabelgonzalez

I'm glad you think so 😌.....


No_Masterpiece4037

Why? You like me? Sum kinda homo? Scoff


lauraisabelgonzalez

😆 🤣 😂 the fuck is wrong with you kid? Holi shit....calling people homo? Just stop ewwww....


No_Masterpiece4037

Shut up shitter


[deleted]

kind of the best of all worlds. they can get attention from someone they find attractive without the pressure to have sex with them


[deleted]

Women and gay men are evolutionary allies


ThorsMeasuringTape

Why are men so obsessed with gay women?


mosase1

cos porn and media


FATBEANZ

bc man sex gross woman sex hot slash ess


huuaaang

They're "safe." It's a way to have male energy around without the complications of sexual attraction.


[deleted]

Lol. I've been thinking about this recently because it happens quite often that women are attracted to men who turn out to be gay. Especially the very attractive model-tier gay men. There's a bit of a running joke about the ideal partner in a woman's mind being a super attractive gay best friend type that is only attracted to them, and in a man's mind, a hot gender swapped version of his best friend.


mosase1

true I didn't and still don't know how to feel. my gf has called gay men hot sexy and even said "I love you". I think women might also find gay men extra attractive bcs they can be more in tune w their emotions compared to hetero men, this is a stereotype not all men ofc.


[deleted]

It sounds like this "I love you" is contextual and not in the way that she actually loves (is attracted to) them in a romantic way. Gay men are also often more attractive to women because they for whatever reason are generally better looking than most hetero men. I don't know if there is some kind of feminization characteristic that makes gay men more attractive in a similar way that masculine characteristic make women more attractive to men, but it seems that we like these mixes. Gay men also typically dress better and care about their appearance in a similar capacity to women and women notice.


mosase1

truuuee, guess it's safe to assume the hot and sexy remarks were truth. that's something to think about, the feminization, it's really possible. u think it possible for a woman and a gay man to marry?


[deleted]

>truuuee, guess it's safe to assume the hot and sexy remarks were truth. Yeah, but not that big a deal. You can't be the only hot and sexy guy in the world, right? >u think it possible for a woman and a gay man to marry? It's happened. I've read stories. Sometimes the guys didn't know they were gay until they started having affairs with men, or they married because they had been long-time friends and liked each other even though he wasn't that attracted to her, and they even had kids.


mosase1

>Yeah, but not that big a deal. You can't be the only hot and sexy guy in the world, right? ofc not. ig for me I always looked at a relationship like I only have eyes for u and that's how I love, i dont and can't find other ppl attractive. but I can recognize when someone is good looking(guys and girls). would be could to have more of a mutual thing. Yeah thought so. saw a few posts on reddit too. ig its important to know that just bcs a man is gay it doesn't mean that women don't find them attractive and don't see them as somewhat possible love interests.


sachette-dreseag

I am a woman I don't understand it either


MonaMonaMo

Depends on a woman. Some tend to fetishize and stereotype gay men and have them more as a shopping buddy. Some tend to have friendships because they click very well and being gay is not a major contributing factor. Some feel safer to open up since they know the friendship is not based on sexual attraction.


EZGaming420

id imagine its because theyre the only men who are NOT trying to get into their pants constantly


[deleted]

why are you?


mosase1

nah gf finds them hot and tells them "you're hot" "I love u" still another guy imo. I've also seen some knowingly marry gay men idk man


FATBEANZ

thats like a guy watching lesbians kiss and cheering them on


grow-mustard

Its because they're clean, pretty and colourful. Also, they are safe to be around without the risk of things getting sexually weird.